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that's a helluva position for a LEO to take.

Your indifference to a 'small number who committed crimes', ostensibly in order to control the process of official appointment of a chief executive ignores how devastating that may have been. USA becomes like any other disorderly, unlawful place when enforcement adopts that indifference. It is an enormous breach of duty. And in the name of politics....???? Jebus Xist, WTF?

May I remind you it took only 9 Saudis to precipitate the longest war in USA's history? Billions spent, our travel privacy and freedoms changed forever.

All those 'peaceful' protesters are what is known as a useful distraction made up of useful idiots - classic insurrectionist tactic. Have you not studied anything about organized crime?

It is not the number of perps, it is the gravity of their intent, the enormity of their potential damage. To ignore or distort that as a peace officer is plain reprehensible.

To equivocate and misdirect in a red herring is laughable. Who falls for that anymore? (here's a list of logical fallacies you might want to avoid, you know, so you you can debate better in the future)

FFS who the hell trained you? How'd you ever pass psych eval? Must have been long ago,...are you are gliding on your seniority?
This was not an insurrection, and the j6 kangaroos participated in the actual attempted take over of the govt and moreover participated in false imprisonment.

Good lord, read the constitution
 

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Perfect. How do you feel about arresting those political figures who lead the charge?
Political figures are simply citizens subject to the same laws as the rest of us.

Why should they be treated any different?
 

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A lawful protest in which a small number of parties committed crimes. Charge those individuals consistent to how they have been charging all the BLM Antifa protestors which is next to zero. The majority there were lawful in their actions to protest, and after the police officers basically said fuck it and stopped trying to deny them access, they walked around the capital.

Insurection??? Give me a fucking break. Based on the Libturd Supported Riots following Fentynal Floyd's death, there should be misdemeanor charges of assault and simple trespass if anything. Identify those that broke windows and charge them with vandalism. Citation and release is pretty much the norm for any of those charges across all the Libturd run cities so why should it be any different here from those that shout at the top of their lungs for ZERO bail. Do you realize there are superior court districts across this nation that will not even charge battery against officers now or any type of trespassing in order to protect the BLM Antifa Democrat supporting rioters?

If you really looked at things objectively it's pretty clear. Yeah those cops that day faced an angry crowd for a couple hours. Cops around the nation faced angry crowds for months with zero support from the same turds that are now today screaming insurrection.

It's politics, not rocket science.


The crowd wasn't angry until an agent started spraying the crowd with pepper spray so he could call it a riot. They were just standing around and talking until then. Narrative has to be preserved
 

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Political figures are simply citizens subject to the same laws as the rest of us.

Why should they be treated any different?
Great answer. So if those political figures promoted, funded, fueled, provided a means by way of paying for the cash release of protestors so they could return to the front lines of those protests, used their power in media and government to incite a rebellion against the current administration, called for violence and intimidation by the public anytime their political opposition was seen in public, you would be good with holding them in the DC jail without bail right? Insurrection!!!!!
 

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The crowd wasn't angry until an agent started spraying the crowd with pepper spray so he could call it a riot. They were just standing around and talking until then. Narrative has to be preserved
Bullshit. There were those there with bad intentions from the get go. Unfortunately they played right into the hands of the opposition. Call it what it is. That misplaced gas gave them an opportunity to move forward. Believe me, that whole set up was tactically stupid from the get go, and it is looking more and more like that was intentional.
 

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Great answer. So if those political figures promoted, funded, fueled, provided a means by way of paying for the cash release of protestors so they could return to the front lines of those protests, used their power in media and government to incite a rebellion against the current administration, called for violence and intimidation by the public anytime their political opposition was seen in public, you would be good with holding them in the DC jail without bail right? Insurrection!!!!!
If they broke the law, charge them.

If a judge deems them to not be eligible for release, like judges have for other BLM, Antifa and J6 defendants, they should continue to be held.

It's a pretty simple concept, anyone who is reasonably believed to have broken the law, is to be prosecuted.

It would appear the only individuals that want to ignore the rule of law are 1) Antifa/BLM criminal participants, 2) J6 criminal participants and 3) those who support groups one or two.

Fortunately the vast majority of America does not buy the hype by any of these three groups.
 

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If they broke the law, charge them.

If a judge deems them to not be eligible for release, like judges have for other BLM, Antifa and J6 defendants, they should continue to be held.

It's a pretty simple concept, anyone who is reasonably believed to have broken the law, is to be prosecuted.

It would appear the only individuals that want to ignore the rule of law are 1) Antifa/BLM criminal participants, 2) J6 criminal participants and 3) those who support groups one or two.

Fortunately the vast majority of America does not buy the hype by any of these three groups.
you spin, and spin, and spin, with straw man after straw man after straw man. Your platitudes are endless, your logic is mindless and your rhetoric is nonsensicle. Fortunately the vast majority of us here do not buy into your hype. (that is the real definition of your last sentence)

spin baby, spin
 

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you spin, and spin, and spin, with straw man after straw man after straw man. Your platitudes are endless, your logic is mindless and your rhetoric is nonsensicle. Fortunately the vast majority of us here do not buy into your hype. (that is the real definition of your last sentence)

spin baby, spin
 

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Bullshit. There were those there with bad intentions from the get go. Unfortunately they played right into the hands of the opposition. Call it what it is. That misplaced gas gave them an opportunity to move forward. Believe me, that whole set up was tactically stupid from the get go, and it is looking more and more like that was intentional.


The instigators were in the crowd. I think they waited till the cops sprayed the pepper spray. Then the instigators started. Was all planned out.
 

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If they broke the law, charge them.

If a judge deems them to not be eligible for release, like judges have for other BLM, Antifa and J6 defendants, they should continue to be held.

It's a pretty simple concept, anyone who is reasonably believed to have broken the law, is to be prosecuted.

It would appear the only individuals that want to ignore the rule of law are 1) Antifa/BLM criminal participants, 2) J6 criminal participants and 3) those who support groups one or two.

Fortunately the vast majority of America does not buy the hype by any of these three groups.

Does that include all the faggots from the FBI that lied to the FISA court, the Clinton's and every other government scumbag that was bribe or lied to Congress oh lil two-faced one?
 

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Does that include all the faggots from the FBI that lied to the FISA court, the Clinton's and every other government scumbag that was bribe or lied to Congress oh lil two-faced one?
of course not, because...TRUMP!!!!!
 

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Thank you for the answer.

Your view that those who participated criminally in J6 should be charged “consistent to how they have been charging all the BLM Antifa protestors” is something I respectfully disagree with. Although as I have posted there have been thousands BLM/Antifa arrested/charged, I have also repeatedly stated that they were not charged adequately, nor were enough of them charged. My personal view is that the Fed’s, even under liberal leadership is taking the right path by taking crimes seriously whereas local jurisdictions took the wrong path and let way too many people get away with what they did.

With respect to “insurrection”, the intent of the J6 crowd was to 1) stop the certification of an election deemed valid in all 50 states, 2) assault and kill members of congress, executive branch, and Federal employees and 3) prevent the peaceful transfer of power by stopping Congressional certification as required under the Constitution. It is all right there including those exact words in the tapes that Tucker has. Call that what you want. But it sounds like an attempted insurrection to me, by textbook definition.

I’m afraid that if we don’t seriously charge criminal acts, whether they be Antifa, BLM or the J6 group, we simply get more crime and a debasing of society and cities. We see it in liberal cities here in this country. Fortunately the Federal government took these crimes seriously in their charging and arrest of some BLM protests (there are threads on how the Fed’s were sweeping them away in vans) as well as J6 criminals while the liberal city governments did not and naturally keep getting rising crime rates in those liberal cities.

You are on the street so I certainly respect your position that the liberal cities are making the right choice in charging decisions and the Fed’s should have followed these local prosecuting policies for J6 criminals. I respectfully disagree and think such liberal thinking just leads to more crime.

At least we can discuss it civilly.

Serious question. How old are you?
 

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Has anyone addressed the fact that terrorist organizations like Aunty Fa and Burn Loot Murder are always brought up as equal to the disorganized private actors know as "J6" people?
 

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Has anyone addressed the fact that terrorist organizations like Aunty Fa and Burn Loot Murder are always brought up as equal to the disorganized private actors know as "J6" people?

What good would addressing facts do?
 

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Has anyone addressed the fact that terrorist organizations like Aunty Fa and Burn Loot Murder are always brought up as equal to the disorganized private actors know as "J6" people?
In addition to BLM and Antifa, you mean like the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Three Percenters and other terrorist organizations which have members charged and were active in the planning and execution of the J6 insurrection?
 
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In addition to BLM and Antifa, you mean like the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Three Percenters and other terrorist organizations which have members charged and were active in the planning and execution of the J6 insurrection?

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What do you think?


Here's your chance to not be a TDS zero integrity bitch...................prosecutorial misconduct or not?

And don't come back with your classic "prove it was intentional" 🤣
 

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What do you think?


Here's your chance to not be a TDS zero integrity bitch...................prosecutorial misconduct or not?

And don't come back with your classic "prove it was intentional" 🤣

He cannot and will not acknowledge evidence which contradicts the narrative that has already solidified in his mind.

He couldn't even admit that Trump was wiretapped

Commies, like the Catholic church during the inquisition, love coercing confessions and then saying "See they admitted they were guilty"
 
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In addition to BLM and Antifa, you mean like the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Three Percenters and other terrorist organizations which have members charged and were active in the planning and execution of the J6 insurrection?
Thanks for proving my/our point again.
Post up the videos of burning cities, assaults, looting and mayhem from those you mention.
You fucking libturds and your false moral equivalentces. 🤣
 

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This was not an insurrection, and the j6 kangaroos participated in the actual attempted take over of the govt and moreover participated in false imprisonment.
you restate assertions that are proven false, dozens of times over. Why?

you seem to invoke constitution as a matter of habit in wrong context

have you been drinking? puffing? injecting? maybe taking ivermectin for fun?
 

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What do you think?


Here's your chance to not be a TDS zero integrity bitch...................prosecutorial misconduct or not?

And don't come back with your classic "prove it was intentional" 🤣
I don’t understand how video of non-criminal activity at one point in time exonerates the convicted from video of their criminal activity at another point in time?

But to the extent one does, file the motion and let the justice system decide. That’s why we have a justice system.

I’m sure there are thousands in prison who can provide video of them when they are not engaged in criminal conduct if that as you believe exonerates the evidence of their criminal activity.
 

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Thanks for proving my/our point again.
Post up the videos of burning cities, assaults, looting and mayhem from those you mention.
You fucking libturds and your false moral equivalentces. 🤣
Ok

 

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the number of those actually involved in criminal activity that day is far less that what the Government and Propaganda machine has been telling us the whole time
"Parties in control"...blah blah blah all the way up to ..."people who promoted violence against their political opponents want you to see"
it matters not if it was a single person or a thousand that intended the grand crime that was averted...if the gravity of the potential result is the same. You seem to ignore that. Why?
You seem to ignore the role of the useful idiots as a distraction, the capitol police had an overwhelming bolus of stooges to manage, and those stooges formed a reserve in case the action got heated (peaceful now, but "standing by"). Why?
Again, you seem to lack knowledge of how insurrections are planned. Though you claim you face reality, you seem to lack insight on the reality of organized crime, you choose only to point blame at political opponents. That is a terrible approach that will never prevent or remediate organized criminal activity. It will reinforce the power and the hubris of narcissistic politicians, though.
 

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you restate assertions that are proven false, dozens of times over. Why?

you seem to invoke constitution as a matter of habit in wrong context

have you been drinking? puffing? injecting? maybe taking ivermectin for fun?
Hey Chris and 530,

You don't think the footage Tucker has been showing contradicts in any way what was initially shown during the J6 hearings in regards to Jake Angeli?

Before anyone gets on the bandwagon and insinuate I want everyone let free from J6 no, incorrect, I just used Jake as an example. Now another example, the gentleman that broke in and stole old Nancy's lab top should be charged.
 

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Hey Chris and 530,

You don't think the footage Tucker has been showing contradicts in any way what was initially shown during the J6 hearings in regards to Jake Angeli?

Before anyone gets on the bandwagon and insinuate I want everyone let free from J6 no, incorrect, I just used Jake as an example. Now another example, the gentleman that broke in and stole old Nancy's lab top should be charged.
Jake Angeli, of Arizona, was charged with knowingly entering or remaining in a restricted building or grounds without lawful authority, and with violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds,

He plead guilty to obstruction of an official proceeding with other charges being dropped in his plea deal.

Nothing in the videos from Carlson appears to change the evidence that he did in fact obstruct an official proceeding. The official proceeding was obstructed and members of Congress did in fact have to flee preventing them from conducting an official proceeding.

What do you see in the videos that contradicts or proves he in fact did not obstruct an official proceeding or that the official proceeding was not in fact obstructed?
 

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I don’t understand how video of non-criminal activity at one point in time exonerates the convicted from video of their criminal activity at another point in time?

But to the extent one does, file the motion and let the justice system decide. That’s why we have a justice system.

I’m sure there are thousands in prison who can provide video of them when they are not engaged in criminal conduct if that as you believe exonerates the evidence of their criminal activity.

They can post video with the cops opening doors for them and escorting them around while they commit their crimes? 🤔

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Go ahead and try again lil crooked one. 🤣
 

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Jake Angeli, of Arizona, was charged with knowingly entering or remaining in a restricted building or grounds without lawful authority, and with violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds,

He plead guilty to obstruction of an official proceeding with other charges being dropped in his plea deal.

Nothing in the videos from Carlson appears to change the evidence that he did in fact obstruct an official proceeding. The official proceeding was obstructed and members of Congress did in fact have to flee preventing them from conducting an official proceeding.

What do you see in the videos that contradicts or proves he in fact did not obstruct an official proceeding or that the official proceeding was not in fact obstructed?
Like Regor said, you see him walking through the building and cops opening doors for him and basically escorting him around. There was at minimum two officers escorting him around with moments where he was around 5 or more officers with no one else around. You are really going to say that they were afraid to take him down with those numbers? The fact that he plead guilty doesn't really help. For all we know his attorney (based on what evidence he was shown) recommend he plea guilty in hopes of a plea deal, in which that never happened and the hammer came down on him and it was to late. Just food for thought.
 

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Hey Chris and 530,

You don't think the footage Tucker has been showing contradicts in any way what was initially shown during the J6 hearings in regards to Jake Angeli?

Before anyone gets on the bandwagon and insinuate I want everyone let free from J6 no, incorrect, I just used Jake as an example. Now another example, the gentleman that broke in and stole old Nancy's lab top should be charged.
Each reviewer will select his own favorite clips, short of displaying the whole enchilada of 40,000 hours of video.
What any reviewer shows is immaterial to the disaster that was (thankfully) averted.
We need to learn from this. Organized crime has penetrated politics and found vulnerabilities in our system of handover of executive power, and found ways to manipulate stooges to the brink of violence, to expect violence. As Trump said, priming the expectation, "It's gonna be wild"
 

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Each reviewer will select his own favorite clips, short of displaying the whole enchilada of 40,000 hours of video.
What any reviewer shows is immaterial to the disaster that was (thankfully) averted.
We need to learn from this. Organized crime has penetrated politics and found vulnerabilities in our system of handover of executive power, and found ways to manipulate stooges to the brink of violence, to expect violence. As Trump said, priming the expectation, "It's gonna be wild"

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh how would his counsel defend him if they didn't have access to the tape there Lucy?
 

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Like Regor said, you see him walking through the building and cops opening doors for him and basically escorting him around. There was at minimum two officers escorting him around with moments where he was around 5 or more officers with no one else around. You are really going to say that they were afraid to take him down with those numbers? The fact that he plead guilty doesn't really help. For all we know his attorney (based on what evidence he was shown) recommend he plea guilty in hopes of a plea deal, in which that never happened and the hammer came down on him and it was to late. Just food for thought.
So if police are around or are setting up a perimeter and feel that they can not safely intervene due to their force versus the total mob size, or are ordered not to intervene, such as during many BLM and Antifa riots, the crimes are legal and should be dismissed?
 

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So if police are around or are setting up a perimeter and feel that they can not safely intervene due to their force versus the total mob size, or are ordered not to intervene, such as during many BLM and Antifa riots, the crimes are legal and should be dismissed?

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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh how would his counsel defend him if they didn't have access to the tape there Lucy?
LOL.

Not
My
Problem.

As you may recall, somewhere much earlier in this topic, the J6 committee was NOT a court of law. So, 'counsel' is luxury indulgence that has no relevance. That's why the World's Least Likely to Procreate, Steve Bannon, didn't mind getting on their nerve and paying the contempt fine/time.
 

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I don’t understand how video of non-criminal activity at one point in time exonerates the convicted from video of their criminal activity at another point in time?

But to the extent one does, file the motion and let the justice system decide. That’s why we have a justice system.

I’m sure there are thousands in prison who can provide video of them when they are not engaged in criminal conduct if that as you believe exonerates the evidence of their criminal activity.
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That’s you on the left.

“The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”
 

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So if police are around or are setting up a perimeter and feel that they can not safely intervene due to their force versus the total mob size, or are ordered not to intervene, such as during many BLM and Antifa riots, the crimes are legal and should be dismissed?
So if a strawman blows away in the wind, does anyone need mustard for their pretzel?
 

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So if police are around or are setting up a perimeter and feel that they can not safely intervene due to their force versus the total mob size, or are ordered not to intervene, such as during many BLM and Antifa riots, the crimes are legal and should be dismissed?
I don't recall police escorting Blm or Antifa around Portland or L.A. do you? Is there any videos you can link of police escorting them while they were destroying federal buildings or destroying police vehicles?

Since you're so passionate about J6 and post videos why don't you ever do the same when Antifa or Blm was doing it? The best we've gotten out of you is you agree whoever got caught should do time when pressed on the topic. It's easy to take the position on that when celebs were bailing them out and DA's were going easy and releasing them as T&Y mentioned earlier today.
 

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I don't recall police escorting Blm or Antifa around Portland or L.A. do you? Is there any videos you can link of police escorting them while they were destroying federal buildings or destroying police vehicles?

Since you're so passionate about J6 and post videos why don't you ever do the same when Antifa or Blm was doing it? The best we've gotten out of you is you agree whoever got caught should do time when pressed on the topic. It's easy to take the position on that when celebs were bailing them out and DA's were going easy and releasing them as T&Y mentioned earlier today.
I don’t support any criminals.

Let’s go back to your point. What in the videos that you saw shows that he did not in fact obstruct an official proceeding?

Even if the police would have arrested him at that point would he not have been charged for the same crime?

Why is he innocent to that in which he plead. What video on tucker’s show exonerates him from the crime he plead guilty to?
 

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I don’t support any criminals.

Let’s go back to your point. What in the videos that you saw shows that he did not in fact obstruct an official proceeding?

Even if the police would have arrested him at that point would he not have been charged for the same crime?

Why is he innocent to that in which he plead. What video on tucker’s show exonerates him from the crime he plead guilty to?
On paper you win, I get that, he broke laws.

I think if he was arrested prior to he would have had less charges, yes.

Never said he was innocent, i think the punishment doesn't fit the crime in this case.
 

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1000 people prosecuted for trespassing, but all these videos show them being cordially invited in and escorted around by the officers.

To be invited inside by the authorities, and then to be prosecuted for trespassing and have the evidence of you being invited in hidden is the most basic example of Maoism type big government that could exist.

Having the government prosecutors threaten you with decades in jail on the most exaggerated charges, to be judged by a jury that is 95% liberal dem commies, or to sign a confession and plea deal....

Same jury that let Sussman off for flat out knowingly lying to Fisa judges, one that prosecuted Stone for incorrect timeline recollection, a process crime for even entertaining their corrupt investigations....

And yet that is so hard to grasp for those with TDS brain parasites.
 

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I don’t support any criminals.

Let’s go back to your point. What in the videos that you saw shows that he did not in fact obstruct an official proceeding?

Even if the police would have arrested him at that point would he not have been charged for the same crime?

Why is he innocent to that in which he plead. What video on tucker’s show exonerates him from the crime he plead guilty to?
You do support criminals, you support the Biden crime family. Everything after you saying you dont support criminals is not worth reading.

Pro tip, save the lies for the end of the post, that way you might have a 5% chance of credibility. Not that people read that far with your stuff, but dare to dream.
 

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1000 people prosecuted l for trespassing, but all these videos show them being cordially invited in and escorted around by the officers.

To be invited inside by the authorities, and then to be prosecuted for trespassing and have the evidence of you being invited in hidden is the most basic example of Maoism type big government that could exist.

And yet that is so hard to grasp for those with TDS brain parasites.
Thus lies the problem here. This is why Schumer and other dems are up in arms about all of this. Like Tucker said, they have no problem trying to silence him or anyone else that opposes their views but they are all about "freedom of speech" till it goes against there narrative LOL. It's so obvious at this point it's not even funny. Don't be surprised if Tucker is let go from Fox news here shortly regardless of his ratings (which I might add have probably saved him thus far) in the next few weeks due to this.
 

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Thus lies the problem here. This is why Schumer and other dems are up in arms about all of this. Like Tucker said, they have no problem trying to silence him or anyone else that opposes their views but they are all about "freedom of speech" till it goes against there narrative LOL. It's so obvious at this point it's not even funny. Don't be surprised if Tucker is let go from Fox news here shortly regardless of his ratings (which I might add have probably saved him thus far) in the next few weeks due to this.
Tucker /O'Keefe News Network!!!!
 

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do you think you can leave that opinion at home when you go to work?
If not, the fact that you chose be silent and not deny how your ethics are comprmised speaks for you.
No. Actually, I get paid to have an informed opinion and at times testify to it. You understand how Voir Dire works in the criminal court system regarding subject matter experts?
it matters not if it was a single person or a thousand that intended the grand crime that was averted...if the gravity of the potential result is the same. You seem to ignore that. Why?
You seem to ignore the role of the useful idiots as a distraction, the capitol police had an overwhelming bolus of stooges to manage, and those stooges formed a reserve in case the action got heated (peaceful now, but "standing by"). Why?
Again, you seem to lack knowledge of how insurrections are planned. Though you claim you face reality, you seem to lack insight on the reality of organized crime, you choose only to point blame at political opponents. That is a terrible approach that will never prevent or remediate organized criminal activity. It will reinforce the power and the hubris of narcissistic politicians, though.

Oh boy... So what you are saying is every person present at a protest that eventually turned violent is responsible for the violence regardless of what evidence exists to the contrary? That is some kind of special legal expertise there bud? What country do you live in?

Honestly, I'm guessing you are just fishing here because I have not ever known your posts to be this stupid.
 

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Like Regor said, you see him walking through the building and cops opening doors for him and basically escorting him around. There was at minimum two officers escorting him around with moments where he was around 5 or more officers with no one else around. You are really going to say that they were afraid to take him down with those numbers? The fact that he plead guilty doesn't really help. For all we know his attorney (based on what evidence he was shown) recommend he plea guilty in hopes of a plea deal, in which that never happened and the hammer came down on him and it was to late. Just food for thought.
We all know why he plead guilty. I'm guessing the conversation went something like... TRUMP SAID PUSSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😂😂😂
 
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