The Conspiracy Theory Door is Now Wide Open

[WhatExit?]

When the MGM Grand (Mandalay Bay) employee, security guard Jesus Campos, went on the Ellen show today as an exclusive interview, you KNEW the bullshit machine had been turned up to 11

The timeline has changed 3 times. He was a hero then he wasn't then there was some other version being told.

The guy is a critical witness to the slaughter of innocents and he appears on the Ellen Show?!

I haven't bought into the conspiracy theories until today. Now I'm ALL IN

From the most camera-laden city in the world, Las Vegas, we have yet to see 1 video of the killer. Videos of the 3 fucking terrorist at the airport in Turkey were all over TV after their attack http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...port-attack-36-dead-and-150-injured-in-hideo/

 

[Waffles]

I'm about done with this fucking thing. The rabbit hole will never end

"You take the*blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the*red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes."

 

[gmnhra]

It all really smells....
As stated in other threads...was there and witnessed a lot, so the investigation and "facts" are personal.
The lack of facts, or the changing of facts, is almost laughable.
no tin foil here either but damn......
One thing in that ellen interview caught my eye and I just don't have the energy to followup but...

The schematic of the floor plan they showed just does not match to what I thought I have seen before either from leaked pictures or other news outlets...and the story they tell does not add up at all..
where is the "women" from another room??
what did she hear/see???

at this point, I am resigned to the only fact that will come form this....we will never know the facts...

 

[JDKRXW]

The guy is a critical witness to the slaughter of innocents and he appears on the Ellen Show?!

This is truly a WTF moment.

The spokesman for the investigation (the sheriff) is being controlled like a puppet by the FBI when he's on TV, and the key witness is on Ellen????

 

[nowski]

Mr. Compos was on the Ellen show (IMO) looking out for his best interest, $$$.

 

[McKay]

My personal opinion is he is probably being bought off by the hotel. He clearly did not look comfortable on Ellen. You could tell Ellen's questions were scripted as were his answers. With no obvious followups like why did it take so long for help to get to you.

I'm sure the Hotel is trying to limit their liability. I mean, you only give one interview and you give it to a comedian? Not 60 minutes, or the likes of Anderson Cooper? WTF?

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

This is truly a WTF moment.

The spokesman for the investigation (the sheriff) is being controlled like a puppet by the FBI when he's on TV, and the key witness is on Ellen????

That's why I don't believe a word anybody says on TV. The people that are put out there on TV are there to pass the government's agenda onto the Sheep........

This all stinks to high hell and is a major cover-up in order to not create panic, Hysteria and crush the economy.

 

[coolchange]

To have a conspiracy you need, well, a conspiracy. Who's the winners and losers?
He hates the oil cans, stay away from the oil cans.
What was he trying to accomplish other than a nut case killing people? He'll end concerts, country music, people having a good time,?
With something like JFK, there were tons of people with something to gain- lose. I can see a conspiracy there.
Give me a reason someone would conspire here, I MIGHT raise an eyebrow.

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

To have a conspiracy you need, well, a conspiracy. Who's the winners and losers?
He hates the oil cans, stay away from the oil cans.
What was he trying to accomplish other than a nut case killing people? He'll end concerts, country music, people having a good time,?
With something like JFK, there were tons of people with something to gain- lose. I can see a conspiracy there.
Give me a reason someone would conspire here, I MIGHT raise an eyebrow.

I don't think he did it. This is deeper than most of us will ever know.

 

[sirbob]

Of course the hotel wants to limit his exposure to hard news outlets - in the brief clip I saw of him he looks like a low paid security guard that probably isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.

I'm not saying that is bad or calling him out as a knucklehead - it's just that the hotel doesn't want him on 5 different networks being asked questions from sharp reporters who will find inconsistencies in what he said and get him all twisted up with different versions -

It's all about trying to limit the hotel ownership exposure to law suits ...

I wouldn't call that a conspiracy.

 

[was thatguy]

I don't think he did it. This is deeper than most of us will ever know.

Would not surprise me in the least.

 

[Old Texan]

To have a conspiracy you need, well, a conspiracy. Who's the winners and losers?
He hates the oil cans, stay away from the oil cans.
What was he trying to accomplish other than a nut case killing people? He'll end concerts, country music, people having a good time,?
With something like JFK, there were tons of people with something to gain- lose. I can see a conspiracy there.
Give me a reason someone would conspire here, I MIGHT raise an eyebrow.

Yup.....Hard to see any angles being played and by whom?

Hard to figure how Ellen got the interview the whole media world wants other than her producers offered the biggest money. I haven't seen or heard the interview but neither have I seen any articles playing up any of the content from it. So I only assume, there was little or nothing to talk about and/or insight into the how and why.

I'm still of the opinion a crazy fuck went off and needlessly killed a lot of people for reasons that will never be clear and he took to hell......

 

[ElAzul]

Enough said

[video=youtube_https;ZGCk6CoYCyI]https://youtu.be/ZGCk6CoYCyI[/video]

 

[4Waters]

I don't think he did it. This is deeper than most of us will ever know.

This makes more sense than the shit they are feeding the media, to many changes on what they are telling the media. I said it before, someone screwed up and they are trying to cover it up.

 

[WhatExit?]

Mr. Compos was on the Ellen show (IMO) looking out for his best interest, $$$.

He was looking out for MGM Grand's best interests - he's their employee and they're controlling him (with $$$)

My personal opinion is he is probably being bought off by the hotel. He clearly did not look comfortable on Ellen. You could tell Ellen's questions were scripted as were his answers. With no obvious followups like why did it take so long for help to get to you.

I'm sure the Hotel is trying to limit their liability. I mean, you only give one interview and you give it to a comedian? Not 60 minutes, or the likes of Anderson Cooper? WTF?

100% correct

 

[WhatExit?]

This makes more sense than the shit they are feeding the media, to many changes on what they are telling the media. I said it before, someone screwed up and they are trying to cover it up.

Terrorist(s) making Paddock eat a gun and them shooting up the crowd = most logical thing I've heard since it happened

 

[Old Texan]

I don't think he did it. This is deeper than most of us will ever know.

"godlikeproductons" is a nonsensical website supported by loons. Complete bullshit conjured up by nutcases from what I can see.....JMHO

Sad that these conspiracy theories will continue on and on forever even if a reasonable truthful explanation comes forth.:rolleyes

 

[nowski]

Behind the scenes Ellen asked Mr. Campos this question, got any cute sisters???

 

[STV_Keith]

LVMPD and the FBI will just stay silent for a few months and the American sheeple will go about their business with their short attention span. By the time any real news comes out, the only ones paying attention will be the likes of us, and not mass America. They've seen this and done it before. This will be nothing new.

 

[Old Texan]

Ahhhh, cmon guys. ISIS gun sting....Really? Think this through. Major media hasn't got a whiff? Is the media in on it then?

If LVMPD knows about it as claimed, it hasn't leaked to that same media?

When these conspiracy deals come up, I'm constantly in awe how so many mouths can be kept shut in so many major organizations and with so many media outlets craving any and every tidbit of anything to print........:rolleyes


Just sayin'.

 

[was thatguy]

LVMPD and the FBI will just stay silent for a few months and the American sheeple will go about their business with their short attention span. By the time any real news comes out, the only ones paying attention will be the likes of us, and not mass America. They've seen this and done it before. This will be nothing new.

Yep.
After time, the outright truth becomes conspiracy.

 

[Dirtbag]

[video=youtube;jAZQ0uJ3i_M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAZQ0uJ3i_M[/video]

 

[coolchange]

Of course the hotel wants to limit his exposure to hard news outlets - in the brief clip I saw of him he looks like a low paid security guard that probably isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.

I'm not saying that is bad or calling him out as a knucklehead - it's just that the hotel doesn't want him on 5 different networks being asked questions from sharp reporters who will find inconsistencies in what he said and get him all twisted up with different versions -

It's all about trying to limit the hotel ownership exposure to law suits ...

I wouldn't call that a conspiracy.

This
Probably just a cruise control guy that fou d himself in the middle of it. Hotel said" This is how your going to cash in and thisis what you will say". You g e t your payday the n shut up..

 

[port austin pirate]

Said on Carlson show last nite Ellen has close ties to hotel, would explain why they chose this venue, I think just a total nutjob shooter and Mandalay is doeing everthing they can to try and cover their ass on lawsuits, of which Iam sure there will be many.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Ahhhh, cmon guys. ISIS gun sting....Really? Think this through. Major media hasn't got a whiff? Is the media in on it then?

If LVMPD knows about it as claimed, it hasn't leaked to that same media?

When these conspiracy deals come up, I'm constantly in awe how so many mouths can be kept shut in so many major organizations and with so many media outlets craving any and every tidbit of anything to print........:rolleyes


Just sayin'.

Agreed.

ISIS does not need AARP members to be the straw man to purchase guns via legal channels for them.

You guys have too much time on your hands. If it was a conspiracy, what was the end goal? It failed, unless it was a hit on someone the crowd or elsewhere.

Trying to understand the mind of someone that would do this will drive you insane. As Humans we generally fail to understand the random. That is probably how most religions started

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

[video=youtube;jAZQ0uJ3i_M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAZQ0uJ3i_M[/video]

Classic.

 

[Constant840]

To have a conspiracy you need, well, a conspiracy. Who's the winners and losers?
He hates the oil cans, stay away from the oil cans.
What was he trying to accomplish other than a nut case killing people? He'll end concerts, country music, people having a good time,?
With something like JFK, there were tons of people with something to gain- lose. I can see a conspiracy there.
Give me a reason someone would conspire here, I MIGHT raise an eyebrow.

This paints an interesting picture. Not sure how accurate it is... but Raised my eyebrow. Skip to 2:20. It begins with the 4chan prediction then connects some interesting dots.

[video=youtube_https;zNqxUuyHFzc]https://youtu.be/zNqxUuyHFzc[/video]

 

[was thatguy]

The truth is we just don't know anything.
It's easy to just say a whacko went off that tragic day.

But even whackos do what they do for a reason...however implausible us "normal" people may find it.

I remember my dad telling me about things he did in Panama. Told him Dad that's crazy, that is not even close to what is on the news.
"The truth is always crazier than the lie" was his response.
"Can I tell anybody about these things?"

"Sure Tommy, no one will believe you...that's the whole point...it's how we operate".

I'm always saying on here that NOTHING we are told is the absolute truth. The truth is always somewhere in the peripheral.
It doesn't have to be EITHER this or that, but rather a little of this and a little of that.
When we isolate causation into singular topics, everything becomes implausible and dismissible.

That is the key to washing truth into conspiracy.

We can see this in every single so called conspiracy theory as far back as you want to go.

Maybe he flipped and went off, maybe he was involved with the FBI but not Isis. Maybe he was up to other shady shit and the FBI was closing in. We don't know.

There are some things that are certain. There is no fucking way this guy is going on Ellen without instructions and a purpose. There is no fucking way the FBI allows this of a primary "witness" without an agenda of their own. There may be a high level reckoning here of powers. The billion dollar casino business versus the FBI.
There is no way that BOTH entities are not in possession of miles of video.
There is no way they are not in possession of clear video evidence either dispelling or confirming any other people involved within that room.

They just aren't telling us. The reasons they aren't are where our minds are constructing scenarios.
I doubt we will ever know. Just like JFK.
They could tell us the absolute truth tomorrow and half of us wouldn't believe it.

 

[t&y]

:lmao:lmao:lmao

Jesus.... I'm sorry for all involved in this. The constant bullshit being thrown out from all sides only makes it worse for most.

 

[kimbalee]

When the MGM Grand (Mandalay Bay) employee, security guard Jesus Campos, went on the Ellen show today as an exclusive interview, you KNEW the bullshit machine had been turned up to 11

The timeline has changed 3 times. He was a hero then he wasn't then there was some other version being told.

The guy is a critical witness to the slaughter of innocents and he appears on the Ellen Show?!

I haven't bought into the conspiracy theories until today. Now I'm ALL IN

From the most camera-laden city in the world, Las Vegas, we have yet to see 1 video of the killer. Videos of the 3 fucking terrorist at the airport in Turkey were all over TV after their attack http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...port-attack-36-dead-and-150-injured-in-hideo/

MGM CEO is tight with that ANTIFA marxist that funded Kildebeast, George Soros (Clinton daughter is married to his nephew). Ellen production co. head used to work for MGM (Ellen slot machines at MGM & Mandalay Bay. Soros shorted $42 Million of Las Vegas MGM stocks right before the attack (ie. he bet $42 million that their stock price would crash). This whole thing stinks BAD...

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

The truth is we just don't know anything.
It's easy to just say a whacko went off that tragic day.

But even whackos do what they do for a reason...however implausible us "normal" people may find it.

I remember my dad telling me about things he did in Panama. Told him Dad that's crazy, that is not even close to what is on the news.
"The truth is always crazier than the lie" was his response.
"Can I tell anybody about these things?"

"Sure Tommy, no one will believe you...that's the whole point...it's how we operate".

I'm always saying on here that NOTHING we are told is the absolute truth. The truth is always somewhere in the peripheral.
It doesn't have to be EITHER this or that, but rather a little of this and a little of that.
When we isolate causation into singular topics, everything becomes implausible and dismissible.

That is the key to washing truth into conspiracy.

We can see this in every single so called conspiracy theory as far back as you want to go.

Maybe he flipped and went off, maybe he was involved with the FBI but not Isis. Maybe he was up to other shady shit and the FBI was closing in. We don't know.

There are some things that are certain. There is no fucking way this guy is going on Ellen without instructions and a purpose. There is no fucking way the FBI allows this of a primary "witness" without an agenda of their own. There may be a high level reckoning here of powers. The billion dollar casino business versus the FBI.
There is no way that BOTH entities are not in possession of miles of video.
There is no way they are not in possession of clear video evidence either dispelling or confirming any other people involved within that room.

They just aren't telling us. The reasons they aren't are where our minds are constructing scenarios.
I doubt we will ever know. Just like JFK.
They could tell us the absolute truth tomorrow and half of us wouldn't believe it.

My questions to this is who cares. If they told the truth half would not believe it. If they told a plausible story, half would not believe it. It was a tragic event, but letting the investigation and motive consume your thoughts and life is the real loss for everyone.

Someone once told me - "Nothing is ever as bad as they try to make you believe, but nothing is ever as good as they try to make you believe either."

 

[stephenkatsea]

I believe MGM Resorts is an advertiser on Ellen. Yes I'm sure Campos, Schuck (sp?) and MGM felt Ellen would be a "soft" interview. Particularly compared to Hannity. Appears these are just two guys working for a living and trying to make their way through this horrific event. Their attorneys and MGM's would understandably be directing their actions. Give it time. Hope there are no further changes in the time line, evidence etc. IMHO - No conspiracy here. Just investigators, people, corporations and attorneys trying to work through the muck.

 

[RiverDave]

I have read a bunch of pretty wild conspiracy theories.. I don't really care about them.

What I do care about is how the heck do you screw up a timeline when you have cameras all over the hotel? Lol. Seriously?

Where did he actually make his money? And don't tell me video poker.. we aren't idiots.

The idea that they think that we would believe this BS is somewhat insulting.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Not sayin I agree with any conspiracy theory here. There are a few questions I would like to see intelligently answered tho and the media does not seem interested in following up on any of it.

The media is not interested in this going away anytime soon. They want everyone whipped up into a froth for increased ratings.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I have read a bunch of pretty wild conspiracy theories.. I don't really care about them.

What I do care about is how the heck do you screw up a timeline when you have cameras all over the hotel? Lol. Seriously?

Where did he actually make his money? And don't tell me video poker.. we aren't idiots.

The idea that they think that we would believe this BS is somewhat insulting.

If the guy had $5M in income from gambling he'd have a shit ton of tax documentation from Casinos to back that up. If he didn't he'd be audited immediately.

If the guy was a criminal, he was a damn good one. Perhaps he was "laundering" his own money via gambling.

 

[gmnhra]

Where did he actually make his money? And don't tell me video poker.. we aren't idiots.

The idea that they think that we would believe this BS is somewhat insulting.

Really???
I won $68 that weekend on video poker...
:rolleyes

 

[RiverDave]

Really???
I won $68 that weekend on video poker...
:rolleyes

5 million in one year? On slots and video poker? :eek Guy must be the luckiest guy on the planet.

RD

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

5 million in one year? On slots and video poker? :eek Guy must be the luckiest guy on the planet.

RD

Again that is what he made, not what he lost.

 

[TrollerDave]

"It's a C-O-N-...spiracy"

 

[25Elmn8r]

Conspiracy or not, to me the only thing that matters is there were 58 innocent lives taken that night, and my brother-in-law is still in the hospital recovering.
In my opinion we need to let the investigators do their job and eventually we'll get a story and timeline. And if that story is the whole truth we'll never truly know.

 

[was thatguy]

The reason these discussions are happening is due to the need for society to rationalize an irrational situation.
It doesn't work.

It's senseless to us.

 

[Ziggy]

The truth is we just don't know anything.


I doubt we will ever know. Just like JFK.
They could tell us the absolute truth tomorrow and half of us wouldn't believe it.

Exactly.

 

[RiverDave]

Again that is what he made, not what he lost.

You cannot consistently make money on any electronic gambling machine in Vegas.

[video=youtube_https;JcZHSGyos6g]https://youtu.be/JcZHSGyos6g[/video]

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

You cannot consistently make money on any electronic gambling machine in Vegas.

[video=youtube_https;JcZHSGyos6g]https://youtu.be/JcZHSGyos6g[/video]

A loss of 10M and an income of 5M is not making money.

I don?t know why everyone so quick to believe and latch onto one line of heresay from one year of tax returns. Rachel Maddow didn?t even break the story.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

The reason these discussions are happening is due to the need for society to rationalize an irrational situation.
It doesn't work.

It's senseless to us.

Agreed.

 

[Ziggy]

I have read a bunch of pretty wild conspiracy theories.. I don't really care about them.

What I do care about is how the heck do you screw up a timeline when you have cameras all over the hotel? Lol. Seriously?

Where did he actually make his money? And don't tell me video poker.. we aren't idiots.

The idea that they think that we would believe this BS is somewhat insulting.

Have you seen how gullible the general public is? [emoji849]Blows my mind how so many appear completely unable to think for themselves. Sad[emoji17]

 

[was thatguy]

:lmao:lmao:lmao

Jesus.... I'm sorry for all involved in this. The constant bullshit being thrown out from all sides only makes it worse for most.

Yes, it doesn't help the grieving, but I don't think it's meant as insensitive...at least at the level of our discussions. You yourself have stated that you apply disinformation during your own investigations.

Sometimes, as I'm sure you may agree, the truth comes from some corner of a lead that hardly seems worth pursuing, no?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Have you seen how gullible the general public is? [emoji849]Blows my mind how so many appear completely unable to think for themselves. Sad[emoji17]

You should know, didn?t you used to be in the car business?

 

[Ziggy]

You should know, didn?t you used to be in the car business?

I sold high line cars, not high volume chevy's and 'yota's. [emoji56]

 

[McRib]

I've been saying this since the following day. We know nothing and there is info to be had. Somebody is keeping this shit locked the fuck down. The day of 9 11 we knew names, countries of origin, hometowns, names of wives, and names of their kids babysitters. What is being covered?