The Conspiracy Theory Door is Now Wide Open

[LargeOrangeFont]

I sold high line cars, not high volume chevy's and 'yota's. [emoji56]

You just proved my point.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I've been saying this since the following day. We know nothing and there is info to be had. Somebody is keeping this shit locked the fuck down. The day of 9 11 we knew names, countries of origin, hometowns, names of wives, and names of their kids babysitters. What is being covered?

You are dealing with a huge resort corporation here. It is not in their best interest to ?leak? any details. It is not in Las Vegas’ best interest to do anything that would jeopardize tourism.

You know the shooters name and history started coming out the next day. The guns he had, houses he had etc. The actions of one guy without a digital footprint and with few known contacts/family is easy to keep quiet.

 

[rivrrts429]

It is not in their best interest to ?leak? any details. It is not in Las Vegas? best interest to do anything that would jeopardize tourism.

And this part doesn't bother you?

Maybe it really is true... what goes on in Vegas stays in Vegas...

 

[Outdrive1]

My thoughts are....

He was crazy. Theres no real reason and if there is, in his paranoia he didnt tell anyone.

Second, the timeline is fucked because the hotel tried to handle shit before calling the police. Now they are covering it up and covering their asses from lawsuits. Their employee is getting a settlement for saying what hes told to say. This part of it has nothing to do with the shooter or any conspiracy.

Sometimes there are no answers as to why. Its unfortunate for the victims and families of victims. Because everyone wants closure. It doesnt always happen though.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

And this part doesn't bother you?

Maybe it really is true... what goes on in Vegas stays in Vegas...

No. It does not affect me and the net result of the event does not change. While leaking info they have on the shooter and his actions in the resort is not in their (MGM and Vegas as a whole) best interest, niether is some cover up of multiple shooters, ISIS members or whatever other crackpot theories are going around. If it WAS some conspiracy, it would have been wrapped in a nicer bow than this. Even a manifesto next to the body would have ended most of this crap weeks ago.

I can?t think of any reason Vegas or MGM would want this event to happen in their town or resort and knowingly cover it up. But they don?t want guests knowing that this murdering asshole was roaming around the resort for 3 days. That is not good for tourism. The bottom line is that the show must go on, and money needs to keep flowing through that town at any cost.

What I am interested in is the corporate influence in the whole aftermath of this event.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

My thoughts are....

He was crazy. Theres no real reason and if there is, in his paranoia he didnt tell anyone.

Second, the timeline is fucked because the hotel tried to handle shit before calling the police. Now they are coving it up and covering their asses from lawsuits. Their employee is getting a settlement for saying what hes told to say. This part of it has nothing to do with the shooter or any conspiracy.

Sometimes there are no answers as to why. Its unfortunate for the victims and families of victims. Because everyone wants closure. It doesnt always happen though.

I wish people would realize this. It is just a tragic event and a huge CYA campaign at a corporate level, with huge money behind it.

 

[Ziggy]

You just proved my point.

The Halo smilie wasn't an accident

 

[Old Texan]

And this part doesn't bother you?

Maybe it really is true... what goes on in Vegas stays in Vegas...

LoL.....That's what we've been saying around here since it happens. The code of Vegas is at work.:skull

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

You are dealing with a huge resort corporation here. It is not in their best interest to ?leak? any details. It is not in Las Vegas? best interest to do anything that would jeopardize tourism.

You know the shooters name and history started coming out the next day. The guns he had, houses he had etc. The actions of one guy without a digital footprint and with few known contacts/family is easy to keep quiet.

And this part doesn't bother you?

Maybe it really is true... what goes on in Vegas stays in Vegas...

Exactly! Something WAY deeper happened here and they had to scramble to find a way to cover it up. What happened, IMO, is so severe that it would have collapsed the Vegas economy and it would have trickled into our stock markets...etc.

I believe this had some kind of terrorist cell involved and this Pollack guy and everything that surrounds him is just a fabrication........

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Exactly! Something WAY deeper happened here and they had to scramble to find a way to cover it up. What happened, IMO, is so severe that it would have collapsed the Vegas economy and it would have trickled into our stock markets...etc.

I believe this had some kind of terrorist cell involved and this Pollack guy and everything that surrounds him is just a fabrication........

What is the deeper happening?? There was no agenda tied to this. MGM and Vegas have nothing to gain out of it.

If that is true it was either botched, or this was to cover up something else like something out of Oceans 11. Did the Russians pick up a nuke in the Treasure Island parking garage while all the cops were down on the other end of the strip? Was a casino robbed?

If it is some terrorist deal (which I too still don't rule out 100%), it was a terrorism attack and it is done.

You sound like NGE on this one. Even if they came out and said, "Yep this is a false flag attack by the CIA everyone!" that has little to do with the Vegas economy. If they said "Yep the Wynn was robbed of 10 billion dollars." that has little to do with the tourism economy of Vegas either.

The business of Vegas is more important than any attack, crime or terrorist action. Every local there knows that, and all the locals, Cops, resorts, etc. are doing all they can keep business going and keep people coming in, plain and simple.

 

[Waffles]

What is the deeper happening?? There was no agenda tied to this. MGM and Vegas have nothing to gain out of it.

If that is true it was either botched, or this was to cover up something else like something out of Oceans 11. Did the Russians pick up a nuke in the Treasure Island parking garage while all the cops were down on the other end of the strip? Was a casino robbed?

If it is some terrorist deal (which I too still don't rule out 100%), it was a terrorism attack and it is done.

You sound like NGE on this one. Even if they came out and said, "Yep this is a false flag attack by the CIA everyone!" that has little to do with the Vegas economy. If they said "Yep the Wynn was robbed of 10 billion dollars." that has little to do with the tourism economy of Vegas either.

The business of Vegas is more important than any attack, crime or terrorist action. Every local there knows that, and all the locals, Cops, resorts, etc. are doing all they can keep business going and keep people coming in, plain and simple.

You sound like a spokesman......which one of the alphabet agencies do you represent?lol

 

[Old Texan]

Exactly! Something WAY deeper happened here and they had to scramble to find a way to cover it up. What happened, IMO, is so severe that it would have collapsed the Vegas economy and it would have trickled into our stock markets...etc.

I believe this had some kind of terrorist cell involved and this Pollack guy and everything that surrounds him is just a fabrication........

So to build on that last sentence, a Cell planned the whole deal and brought the Paddock guy in as the patsy.....They blow the shit out of the crowd and kill the patsy and leave his carcass to cover it up.

The part that doesn't fit as raghead crazies generally sacrifice themselves to get the goods allah has waiting. And they go out of their way to claim responsibility. Something they made a lame claim towards but didn't push it like they would if they indeed were the shooters. Hell killing of the patsy is way out of character for these fucks......

BUT, your theory may point to the hotel or someone offing the terrorists, took away evidence and pinned it on the patsy. Hell Campos may have figured the whole deal out and watching out for the hotel interests, killed the terrorists and drug Paddock from an adjoining room, shot his ass and left the body as the shooter. Could be an clandestine code Vegas has in place to have a cleaner settle this shit up if a terrorist group pull one of these deals off. Campos is the cleaner and worked the whole coverup deal so quickly they didn't get the time straight. This answers the changing timeline......


Conspiracy theories, ya gotta love 'em.....:skull:rolleyes


I'll stick to the obvious. A loon pulled off a horrible event and we may never know why. RIP to the innocent victims and prayers and thoughts for the survivors.

 

[spectra3279]

My thoughts are....

He was crazy. Theres no real reason and if there is, in his paranoia he didnt tell anyone.

Second, the timeline is fucked because the hotel tried to handle shit before calling the police. Now they are covering it up and covering their asses from lawsuits. Their employee is getting a settlement for saying what hes told to say. This part of it has nothing to do with the shooter or any conspiracy.

Sometimes there are no answers as to why. Its unfortunate for the victims and families of victims. Because everyone wants closure. It doesnt always happen though.

Actually, this very thing is a conspiracy.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

You sound like a spokesman......which one of the alphabet agencies do you represent?lol

Everyone seems to have a good conspiracy theory about the Who, What, When and Where..

No one has the Why. When evidence of Why surfaces, then we can have a conversation about what "really" happened.

If this was a cover up, or conspiracy the Why would have already been spoon fed to us. That is how I am relatively certain this was a random, planned act committed buy a guy with above average intelligence still with an unknown motive. None of the prep would be that hard to do or plan by yourself.

Every time humans cant figure out Why something happened, they freak out.

 

[spectra3279]

So to build on that last sentence, a Cell planned the whole deal and brought the Paddock guy in as the patsy.....They blow the shit out of the crowd and kill the patsy and leave his carcass to cover it up.

The part that doesn't fit as raghead crazies generally sacrifice themselves to get the goods allah has waiting. And they go out of their way to claim responsibility. Something they made a lame claim towards but didn't push it like they would if they indeed were the shooters. Hell killing of the patsy is way out of character for these fucks......

BUT, your theory may point to the hotel or someone offing the terrorists, took away evidence and pinned it on the patsy. Hell Campos may have figured the whole deal out and watching out for the hotel interests, killed the terrorists and drug Paddock from an adjoining room, shot his ass and left the body as the shooter. Could be an clandestine code Vegas has in place to have a cleaner settle this shit up if a terrorist group pull one of these deals off. Campos is the cleaner and worked the whole coverup deal so quickly they didn't get the time straight. This answers the changing timeline......


Conspiracy theories, ya gotta love 'em.....:skull:rolleyes


I'll stick to the obvious. A loon pulled off a horrible event and we may never know why. RIP to the innocent victims and prayers and thoughts for the survivors.

That depends on how lowly of a cell it was. It's never the higher ups that blow themselves up. It's always an initiate.

 

[was thatguy]

What is the deeper happening?? There was no agenda tied to this. MGM and Vegas have nothing to gain out of it.

If that is true it was either botched, or this was to cover up something else like something out of Oceans 11. Did the Russians pick up a nuke in the Treasure Island parking garage while all the cops were down on the other end of the strip? Was a casino robbed?

If it is some terrorist deal (which I too still don't rule out 100%), it was a terrorism attack and it is done.

You sound like NGE on this one. Even if they came out and said, "Yep this is a false flag attack by the CIA everyone!" that has little to do with the Vegas economy. If they said "Yep the Wynn was robbed of 10 billion dollars." that has little to do with the tourism economy of Vegas either.

The business of Vegas is more important than any attack, crime or terrorist action. Every local there knows that, and all the locals, Cops, resorts, etc. are doing all they can keep business going and keep people coming in, plain and simple.

You don't know that.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

You don't know that.

Who really knows anything?

Outwardly, who gained anything from this? Who stood anything to gain from this?

 

[was thatguy]

Who really knows anything?

Outwardly, who gained anything from this? Who stood anything to gain from this?

We dont know. Someone thought it was the thing to do.

The Who and why remains to be revealed...to us anyway.
We can debate it, but what it comes down to is someone knows, and saying it out loud is not in someone's best interest...whether it's nothing or something.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

We dont know. Someone thought it was the thing to do.

The Who and why remains to be revealed...to us anyway.
We can debate it, but what it comes down to is someone knows, and saying it out loud is not in someone's best interest...whether it's nothing or something.

Or the only guy that knows is dead..

 

[oldschool]

Or the only guy that knows is dead..

Or is he?

 

[RiverDave]

A loss of 10M and an income of 5M is not making money.

I don?t know why everyone so quick to believe and latch onto one line of heresay from one year of tax returns. Rachel Maddow didn?t even break the story.

Per the FBI press release and Sherriff he was a professional gambler. Per his brother "he made us all wealthy". This guy wasn't sustaining losses consistently. I don't think he was winning on video poker either.. lol

Just saying that doesn't even make sense? But that's the story?

 

[WhatExit?]

Per the FBI press release and Sherriff he was a professional gambler. Per his brother "he made us all wealthy". This guy wasn't sustaining losses consistently. I don't think he was winning on video poker either.. lol

Just saying that doesn't even make sense? But that's the story?

Reports also said he was a real estate investor so maybe that's where the $$$ came from. But we haven't heard word 1 on anything for a while now

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Per the FBI press release and Sherriff he was a professional gambler. Per his brother "he made us all wealthy". This guy wasn't sustaining losses consistently. I don't think he was winning on video poker either.. lol

Just saying that doesn't even make sense? But that's the story?

Why do people latch on to a couple things and believe everything else they are telling us is BS? This is like the 1 page of Trumps tax return, and everyone thinks the guy pays no taxes ever in his life.

The Sheriff said he was a gambler, but not that he posted $5M in earnings in one year from gambling alone to my knowledge. I have not seen that substantiated anywhere. The guy bought and sold a lot of property.

You'll waste you entire life trying to make sense of this. You don't have all the info I don't either, we never will. We never have had all the info in the past, this event is not any different. In the meantime the media spews any innacurate detail out as breaking news to get ratings.

In a year it will come out that the GF or someone helped him or knew about it. Just like the Pulse nightclub shooting. It took them over a year to arrest the wife.

 

[RiverDave]

Again,

Why do people latch on to a couple things and believe everything else they are telling us is BS? This is like the 1 page of Trumps tax return, and everyone things the guy pays no taxes ever.

The Sheriff said he was a gambler, but not that he posted $5M in earnings in one year to my knowledge.

You'll waste you entire life trying to make sense of this. You don't have all the info I don't either, we never will. We never have had all the info in the past, this event is not any different.

In a year it will come out that the GF or someone helped him or knew about it. Just like the Pulse nightclub shooting. It took them over a year to arrest the wife.

Actually that is precisely what the Sherriff said.. he profited 5 million in one year, and the majority of it was gambling. There was some other small things but nothing worth talking about.

I agree though I think your right on why believe that when I'm having a hard time believing anything else.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Actually that is precisely what the Sherriff said.. he profited 5 million in one year, and the majority of it was gambling. There was some other small things but nothing worth talking about.

I agree though I think your right on why believe that when I'm having a hard time believing anything else.

If I am inaccurate on that detail about the $5M, coming from the Sheriff my apologies. I agree it is outlandish sounding, but seriously that is one detail out of a haystack of details and circumstance, and that alone does not move the needle either way for me. Clearly there were early details that were not correct. Who knows if that was one of them or not.

 

[JRider]

Who really knows anything?

Outwardly, who gained anything from this? Who stood anything to gain from this?

Security companies, also scanner equipment companies.

 

[TPC]

No matter what you read out there on the subject this is what I believe:

Craps has been my game for decades. My ex was the chick that held the dice for 63 minutes in Reno if anyone remembers that.
I play it by the book knowing what bets to avoid what bets are the best odds of hitting and pay outs.
I never ever place a wild bet on the sucker wagers.
This strategy gives the house about a 2% edge and that is an astronomical edge. Sharp players get their ass kicked 23.9/7.

Video poker and slots give the house a 26% edge. So do the math. That is a full ass kicking beyond reason.

IGT, the video poker and slot MFG had a few Cole owner gaming machine engineers/software programmers that were early RDP forum members.
They concurred with my take.

Persons with a gambling addiction are not pro gamblers. Big difference.
No pro gambler is a slot machine pro.
They play the horses, book sports and play poker.
They are the creepiest people you will ever meet.