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I think that’s the first time you’ve posted that.
Most know your love of Brian, I think most don’t know the loss you and Lori live with.
The decisions that had to be made.
It’s more than I can even get my head around.
I hope God gave you both a miracle. I think he did. It helps. God Bless you both. It helps me thinking that Billy is busy helping riding herd on all the babies. Bummer He's got to do that, but kids do need older kids to look up to, even though so all so young. Heartbreaking. But it sounds like he's in good company with some very loved quality young individuals who were called before their time. Pity when Kids can step up to be the responsible ones. RIP Kids. Godspeed and God Bless all the Kids, up In the White Room.
 

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You are dam right Roe v. Wade is my line in the sand. Same as 54% of Americans who favor Roe stands versus 28% who wanted it overturned. And yes I’m very well versed in the jurisprudence and facts surrounding Roe. Wasn’t born yesterday.

Roe was well established precedent in US law. This will further push the Republican Party away from the mainstream majority and for that I am sad.

So was Dred Scott, Korematsu, Buck v Bell, and other atrocious SCOTUS rulings. (look them up)

So I imagine you'll be petitioning to have the provisions of these precedent setting cases reimposed on the Nation.
 

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My beef is that some states will impose an outright ban on all abortions. Believe it or not, I sympathize with the poor girl of low economic means in that state who will be denied that option.

On your second question, read Roe for my answer.

But back to my original point, I believe this is going to cost the Republicans dearly in any National contest, especially with females.

There are consequences to your actions.. I what my parents taught me. Wrap it up, or man up!!



So I agree with abortion in a case basis.. but you are saying, because they are to lazy or not responsible enough to be "proactive" its ok?

So.. abortion is the new "birth control"? Noted...

Big pharma isn't gonna like that.. no more pill, shot, insert..
 

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You are dam right Roe v. Wade is my line in the sand. Same as 54% of Americans who favor Roe stands versus 28% who wanted it overturned. And yes I’m very well versed in the jurisprudence and facts surrounding Roe. Wasn’t born yesterday.

Roe was well established precedent in US law. This will further push the Republican Party away from the mainstream majority and for that I am sad.
You're insane...
Are you actually dumb enough to think this a ban on abortion?
 

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You are dam right Roe v. Wade is my line in the sand. Same as 54% of Americans who favor Roe stands versus 28% who wanted it overturned. And yes I’m very well versed in the jurisprudence and facts surrounding Roe. Wasn’t born yesterday.

Roe was well established precedent in US law. This will further push the Republican Party away from the mainstream majority and for that I am sad.
Dead Babies might think getting killed is crossing a line in the sand but we'll never know because they're dead.

Uphill battle convincing a reasonable person that killing unborn babies is codified in the U.S. Constitution.
Especially this new perinatal post birth abortion fad. Up tp 30 days post birth. Your line in the sand? 54% of Americans?. And Free Country covers that?
No wonder God nuked Sodom and Gomorrah.

Irresponsible adults make the irresponsible bad birth control decision, fuck it no problem, free will, dead Babies. I guarantee unborn babies don't dig it. At all. BABIES have free will too. I also guarantee you that when all that mechanical baby killing machinery is invading, to them it is making a horrible sound, and they are swimming for their lives full speed ahead away in the opposite direction.
They don't ever get very far. They don't get to cross the finish line, like you did.

Ever seen an Amniocenteses under ultrasound? IDTS. Why?
That is just sampling the Amniotic fluid in the womb, Baby is totally safe. But. Watch that procedure and tell me that that kid is not terrified of what is going on. Swimming TF away as far and as fast as possible. And when Brandon was a baby, and you fire up a vacuum cleaner? Oh HELL No.
 
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You're insane...
Are you actually dumb enough to think this a ban on abortion?

I think many people don't have a full understanding of federalism, and federal vs state issues and constitutional foundations.

I'm pro-choice to a point, but Roe was a horribly based decision from a constitutional standpoint. There is no basis in the constitution for the federal government to have any overreaching say in it. It's a state issue.
 

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You're insane...
Are you actually dumb enough to think this a ban on abortion?
Hey rocket scientist, many states already have, or will have, outright bans on abortion if the Court overturns Roe. You calling me insane, that’s pure gold.
 

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Hey rocket scientist, many states already have, or will have, outright bans on abortion if the Court overturns Roe. You calling me insane, that’s pure gold.
By many you mean 8.
And it is an unenforced illegality in those states at this point.
I understand this is a significant issue for you, to the point it will influence you to be a single issue voter, but the fall out from this is possibly not going to be what you think it may be…regardless of the lefts theatrics and televised outrage.
 

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Hey rocket scientist, many states already have, or will have, outright bans on abortion if the Court overturns Roe. You calling me insane, that’s pure gold.
Then move to another state or vote and fight to change the laws in your own state. It's so fucking simple a libturd could understand it...
 

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By many you mean 8.
And it is an unenforced illegality in those states at this point.
I understand this is a significant issue for you, to the point it will influence you to be a single issue voter, but the fall out from this is possibly not going to be what you think it may be…regardless of the lefts theatrics and televised outrage.
Those laws are on the books and become law the minute the Roe ban is overturned, if my understanding is correct. If you say it’s 8, then so be it. I know it’s more than zero, I haven’t looked it up. My original point was I believe this is going to cost the Republicans, and considering the sordid state of affairs, it’s a sub-optimal situation.

I just read an article that stated abortion was number 11 out of 14 hot issues for voters, this predates the leak. Maybe it’s more important to me than the general electorate, don’t know. I would have thought the issue would be higher on the list.
 

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Those laws are on the books and become law the minute the Roe ban is overturned, if my understanding is correct. If you say it’s 8, then so be it. I know it’s more than zero, I haven’t looked it up. My original point was I believe this is going to cost the Republicans, and considering the sordid state of affairs, it’s a sub-optimal situation.

I just read an article that stated abortion was number 11 out of 14 hot issues for voters, this predates the leak. Maybe it’s more important to me than the general electorate, don’t know. I would have thought the issue would be higher on the list.


This is a push from the left to try and bury the right in November.. if you cant see that you're blind and not paying attention.. which is the case with most..
 

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Those laws are on the books and become law the minute the Roe ban is overturned, if my understanding is correct. If you say it’s 8, then so be it. I know it’s more than zero, I haven’t looked it up. My original point was I believe this is going to cost the Republicans, and considering the sordid state of affairs, it’s a sub-optimal situation.

I just read an article that stated abortion was number 11 out of 14 hot issues for voters, this predates the leak. Maybe it’s more important to me than the general electorate, don’t know. I would have thought the issue would be higher on the list.
You’re not gonna find many friends down here, but I and a significant majority of Americans are with you.
 

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Those laws are on the books and become law the minute the Roe ban is overturned, if my understanding is correct. If you say it’s 8, then so be it. I know it’s more than zero, I haven’t looked it up. My original point was I believe this is going to cost the Republicans, and considering the sordid state of affairs, it’s a sub-optimal situation.

I just read an article that stated abortion was number 11 out of 14 hot issues for voters, this predates the leak. Maybe it’s more important to me than the general electorate, don’t know. I would have thought the issue would be higher on the list.
Problem is, your avoiding the real ugly truth about abortion and the left.

I believe there is a large middle of Americans that would tolerate a 12-14 week abortion law.

The left, as they always do, overplay their cards. The amount of folks that will support full term abortion and even now, possible infanticide in some states, is minuscule.

But your support of RvW, insists you support all of it. The left will not compromise, at all.

So, I’m assuming you do not support full term abortion, right up until delivery? Of course not.

The left knows that but won’t budge, forcing you to condone their horrors
 

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The following is in the news right now:

UC San Diego political scientist Thad Kousser says Democrats are hoping this colossal decision should it stand, would be enough to shift the Midterm focus away from President Biden’s performance and onto abortion.
 

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You’re not gonna find many friends down here, but I and a significant majority of Americans are with you.
Isn't it ironic?
All the alleged 'People,' losing their shit over RvW have had the luxury of passing between their Mother's legs to be born, not murdered, and have actually had the chance to grow up? To become unglued burn loot murder rioting lunatics, mad murder hornet sanctimoniously bitching about Mom not killing them in the womb?

Hey. I get it. You and yore significant majority are reely pissed you missed your chance early on. Well now. Hell bent on serious are we? "Well. Bye..."
If you look up insanity in the dictionary...
 
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Lets not forget the real driving force behind abortion...

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40% of abortions in this country are performed on black women.
7% of the population are black women.

Can you fucking libturds understand simple math?
 

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Lets not forget the real driving force behind abortion...

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40% of abortions in this country are performed on black women.
7% of the population are black women.

Can you fucking libturds understand simple math?

Good thing we are racists or that might really bother me…
Oh wait…which ones are the racists?
Oh yeah, the same ones who put a gay man and his husband in the whitehouse, then rigidly proclaim we are conspiracy theorists because it’s impossible for a gay to be president.
Oh yeah, the same ones who proclaim non binary bullshit and that biology is for cavemen and we can be whatever gender we like and men can have babies too! Then go on to scream about “womens rights” over their bodies.

I swear to god (oops!) if these dip shits could even once form any sort of coherent thought it would be a miracle.
 

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Maybe unpopular opinion here.. But if Abortions were outlawed or not readily available, Can you imagine the shit show New York and Chitcago would be?? The statistic in New York city alone is staggering. Could you imagine all those future fatherless thugs running amock?? At Chicago, Baltimore and St Louis seem ok with real late term abortions by the rampant killings in those cities.. How many more unwanted kids do we the taxpayers need or want to support?? If they don't want them, let them abort them. But that puts them into a hell of quandrum.. Get paid to have kids and have to deal with them or just collect the welfare for themselves. Yes I know I am an asshole but a realist first.
 

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Maybe unpopular opinion here.. But if Abortions were outlawed or not readily available, Can you imagine the shit show New York and Chitcago would be?? The statistic in New York city alone is staggering. Could you imagine all those future fatherless thugs running amock?? At Chicago, Baltimore and St Louis seem ok with real late term abortions by the rampant killings in those cities.. How many more unwanted kids do we the taxpayers need or want to support?? If they don't want them, let them abort them. But that puts them into a hell of quandrum.. Get paid to have kids and have to deal with them or just collect the welfare for themselves. Yes I know I am an asshole but a realist first.

No you are absolutely correct and it’s a valid point.
The cost alone of welfare support is almost incalculable.
As I’ve stated outright several times, I am not a hard core pro lifer.
And I do not think the “morality” argument is the correct approach when it comes to SC rulings.
Emotion and opinion are grounds for argument, not debate.
The bottom line is that this is a federal/ State issue at the core of the debate and the decisions.
Justices like Sotomayor who make decisions based on nothing but personal preferences are a disgrace to the court. Their job is to interpret the constitution as it applies to the situations they look at, not vote their emotions or racial preferences per sey.

That’s why I’m a huge opponent of an imbalanced SC. For either side.
 

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What if this is the 2022 version of Russia Russia Russia!! A fake "leaked" opinion/dossier causing a political whirlwind everybody talks about and gets stirred up for?

Until there is SOMETHING official from the SC, I will be HIGHLY suspicious.
 

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I keep reading this leak puts “lives at risk”. I dont get this view/statement from the right at all. Regardless of when the opinion or decision is made public, rather premature or at a planned time, why would the reaction to the same decision change? Scotus judge is against abortion today, their life is at risk, but in 3 weeks they would publish through normal means and their life wouldnt be at risk then, even though its the same decision? What am i missing? Anymore, i cant stand reading anything political from either side, the right is just as bad as pushing a narrative as the left. Its so easy to see it. Elon is the only ray of truth i see anywhere.

From my IG feed:

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Anytime i read “barricades up within minutes” something smells like powerbait. Nothing happens that fast anywhere without premeditation and planning.
Lol.. I read this, and then read the responses to it. YOUR PROBLEM is simple. You offered an objective view point and asked an honest question. There are people here who can not accept that. I get your point clearly, and I agree. Those justices go into that job knowing the risks. Don't sweat the BullShit.
 

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Lets not forget the real driving force behind abortion...

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40% of abortions in this country are performed on black women.
7% of the population are black women.

Can you fucking libturds understand simple math?

A total of 79% of Planned Parenthood and other abortionists are located in, or within walking distance, of minority (black/hispanic) neighborhoods. This is by design to contribute to Sanger's ideal with the full blessings of democrats. If Republicans had placed clinics in and around these neighborhoods, the left would be yelling GENOCIDE from every rooftop. But as it is, the democrats claim that this is for their (black/hispanic) benefit.
 

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Pyrrhic victory. Waterloo for the Republicans. This is a line in the sand for many moderates, including me, come election time (social moderate, fiscal conservative, independent, who usually votes republican).
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Ya, not seeing any sort of Waterloo for Republicans. I do however see leftists cheating like their lives depend on it. All the while salivating over killing a few million female babies.
 

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Ultimately, the creepiest thing about this has to be males that support killing babies. Men are supposed to stand up for those that can’t protect themselves. Men that support abortion do so in order to escape the responsibility of their actions.

Sad, and pathetic.
 

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Ultimately, the creepiest thing about this has to be males that support killing babies. Men are supposed to stand up for those that can’t protect themselves. Men that support abortion do so in order to escape the responsibility of their actions.

Sad, and pathetic.
Have you seen the videos of some of these so called "males" protesting? That explains it right there!
 

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@nganga Ok, I'm an idiot for living in Narnia in my head believing people aren't actually promoting to kill two SCJ's because of their views on abortion and possibility for Jao to appoint two more of the lefts brainwashed dipshits to the highest positions in our judicial system.


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