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Shipment spotted!!!

Speed and Can-am must be using the same shipping providers.

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Its a production car when it has a VIN number. Its one of first 20 that are going to speed.

Those have real vin plates and real vins. The picture is dark, but there is a VIN punched in the plate.

This is the vin plate of the blue car.

If you want to dig for CARB and EPA certs start digging for Chongqing Huansong Science and Technology certs for one with 999cc
 

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Can speed sell 1-20?
I don’t have that answer. I believe these should be the units that are submitted for final CARB and EPA approval. Then the EPA will request additional production units down the road with limited notice.
 

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Those have real vin plates and real vins. The picture is dark, but there is a VIN punched in the plate.

This is the vin plate of the blue car.

If you want to dig for CARB and EPA certs start digging for Chongqing Huansong Science and Technology certs for one with 999cc
What is the date on that vin? 2022-0x-0x. Cant make out the day or month.
 

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Pre-production have no VIN’s
First 20 production units (with VINs) go to Speed.
Production #21, should be the first customer car.

That is not even correct, as the preproduction cars had 17 digit vins on them. How do you think they got street registered?

You do realize the car pictured above is #23 right?
 

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What is the date on that vin? 2022-0x-Ox. Cant make out the day or month.

I will edit the pic see if it comes through.

It looks to be 2022-05-06..

Early May if that is correct.

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Car #4 may be the 12th one off the line.
 

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That is not even correct, as the preproduction cars had 17 digit vins on them. How do you think they got street registered?

You do realize the car pictured above is #23 right?

How many production cars are going to Speed prior to a customer getting a car? Somewhere in this thread, it was stated the first 20 off the line are going to Speed. Is it 20, or a different number?

You can VIN anything. My golf cart is in the process of getting a vin, so it can be plated.
numbers on the side of the car are useless IMO. If that is car #23 and not a customer car, makes me question when will deposit holders actually start getting cars, or is RG building his own toys first.
 

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How many production cars are going to Speed prior to a customer getting a car? Somewhere in this thread, it was stated the first 20 off the line are going to Speed. Is it 20, or a different number?

You can VIN anything. My golf cart is in the process of getting a vin, so it can be plated.
numbers on the side of the car are useless IMO. If that is car #23 and not a customer car, makes me question when will deposit holders actually start getting cars, or is RG building his own toys first.

That’s my point. They are a manufacturer, they can slap a vin on anything.. they all have VINs. The upside down car at SSSShad a VIN.

There were almost a dozen cars sitting in the picture in the first post of this thread in April. They seem to be in a validation stage at this point, as now we are seeing net new cars floating around. These are likely all going to be demo cars, validation cars or press cars, that came off the line early, just like every other mfg does.

None of us have any idea how many cars Speed plans to use, create build etc. Plans certainly change, maybe it’s 20, maybe 25, maybe you are looking at a customer car. Who knows.
 

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Its a production car when it has a VIN number. Its one of first 20 that are going to speed.
production means its been sold or going to be sold (sitting in inventory) this is neither thus not a production car. this is still and R&D car.
 

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production means its been sold or going to be sold (sitting in inventory) this is neither thus not a production car. this is still and R&D car.

There is a difference between production and distribution… they cars were certainly produced. These particular units may or may not be available for sale.
 

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There is a difference between production and distribution… they cars were certainly produced. These particular units may or may not be available for sale.
straight from the internet (which means its true lol)

Production vehicles or production cars are mass-produced identical models, offered for sale to the public, and able to be legally driven on public roads (street legal).

these meet the above with exception offered for sale. until the sale happens its not production
 

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straight from the internet (which means its true lol)

Production vehicles or production cars are mass-produced identical models, offered for sale to the public, and able to be legally driven on public roads (street legal).

these meet the above with exception offered for sale. until the sale happens its not production

Damn Ford has a lot of non production trucks sitting at Kentucky Speedway then 😂

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Damn Ford has a lot of non production trucks sitting at Kentucky Speedway then 😂

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Those are all production vehicles in a WIP status pending parts, so they can be delivered to customers. 100% of those units once moved from WIP to Finished Good will be delivered. Or at least Ford hopes they can deliver those products.
 

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i just want him to clear this up....if it is to see how many buttons he can push he needs to be gone immediately unless RD condones that type of behavior.

Not with all the bitching complaining and arguing with so many people on here.
His silence for sure is not helping if someone called me a bull shitter I would clear it up real quick
 

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His silence for sure is not helping if someone called me a bull shitter I would clear it up real quick

I think he's being silent because it's pissing people off even more now. I personally don't think he would lie like that. Life it too short to worry about shit like this. If this thread is making your blood boil and you care so much about what someone else is saying or buying or whatever on a website called River Dave's Place, you need to reexamine your life. Not worth it.
 

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Poke a bear enough and you get fucked up

Yeah I get that but it's more fun when it's being done about Clippers vs Lakers or something that you have some skin in the game. You know what I mean? I think people here try and get under other people's skin just to get a rise because they have nothing else going on in their lives. Better to just ignore them and move on.
 

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Those are all production vehicles in a WIP status pending parts, so they can be delivered to customers. 100% of those units once moved from WIP to Finished Good will be delivered. Or at least Ford hopes they can deliver those products.

So does Speed :)
 

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So does Speed :)
If people have not walked away yet, they will deliver.
No one knows when. For production to slow, that is not a good sign.
If things were going well, you build them and stack them, so you can get money into the revenue bucket ASAP once approved. IMO, what complicates Speed, is Hisun ownership of the manufacturing line. Hisun is not going to ramp up production until they know the units can be delivered and they can get paid.
 
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I put LOF on ignore a while ago. Easy peasy.

All the crying and pearl clutching in here is comedy gold. I may respond to some LOF posts to keep it rolling.
 

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straight from the internet (which means its true lol)

Production vehicles or production cars are mass-produced identical models, offered for sale to the public, and able to be legally driven on public roads (street legal).

these meet the above with exception offered for sale. until the sale happens its not production
Almost like making money prior to making the money (sale of a speed car) like all of them have said in this thread will do.
 

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If people have not walked away yet, they will deliver.
No one knows when. For production to slow, that is not a good sign.
If things were going well, you build them and stack them, so you can get money into the revenue bucket ASAP once approved. IMO, what complicates Speed, is Hisun ownership. Hisun is not going to ramp up production until they know the units can be delivered.

Not making units because there is a question if you can deliver them is the inverse of reality and a self fulfilling prophecy, but you are certainly entitled to your opinion.

What ownership does Hisun have in Speed? Do You have the details?
 

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His silence for sure is not helping if someone called me a bull shitter I would clear it up real quick
Not to start anything between us, but I did call you out on you being that Devon guy that posted about buying a pre runner when another poster called you out and you disappeared. You never cleared it up 🤣
 

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Not making units because there is a question if you can deliver them is the inverse of reality and a self fulfilling prophecy, but you are certainly entitled to your opinion.

What ownership does Hisun have in Speed? Do You have the details?
Speed stated 5 weeks before SSSS, 75 units built, hope to have 100 by SSSS.
At that rate, you are not full production. It was stated at SSSS, production is slowed until certs are approved. If you were good to go, you don’t slow production, you ramp it up to deliver as much as possible as quickly as possible.

Typo, not ownership, but owns manufacturing operations.
 
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