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So for a guy that doesn't follow nearly any world events, news, politics, etc. help me understand here.

Our former administration sent these people to space, couldn't get them home, and a private entity had to basically say "hold my beer" and went and retrieved the poor fuckers that have been stuck in space for fuck knows how long!? This cannot be real, is it?
 

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So for a guy that doesn't follow nearly any world events, news, politics, etc. help me understand here.

Our former administration sent these people to space, couldn't get them home, and a private entity had to basically say "hold my beer" and went and retrieved the poor fuckers that have been stuck in space for fuck knows how long!? This cannot be real, is it?

I believe it was 'Hold my Doobie, Snoop" but yeah, pretty much.

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So for a guy that doesn't follow nearly any world events, news, politics, etc. help me understand here.

Our former administration sent these people to space, couldn't get them home, and a private entity had to basically say "hold my beer" and went and retrieved the poor fuckers that have been stuck in space for fuck knows how long!? This cannot be real, is it?
In a nutshell…yes.
9 months they’ve been up there.
Real “Major Tom” shit.
As a guy that vividly remembers the moon landings, Apollo 13, all the disasters along the way, watching my mom cry every day until 13 got home, the fatal launch pad fire, the shuttle disasters, this is as much emotional to me as when Elon shot Bob and Doug up there and brought them home.
Seeing those chutes deploy choked me up.
Elon is the most bad ass MF on earth today as far as I’m concerned.
Anything less than what he has accomplished and provides for space exploration is a total abuse and misuse of those astronauts courage. Elon knows this.

“I got this…”
Elon Musk.
 

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Should be another launch today out of florida
 

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Fox had Mark Kelily’s brother on.
He said they were not stranded, they could have hopped in the other spacecraft and returned any time.
SpaceX said they had to provide the proper spacesuits, The Boeing suits were not compatible. Also they needed to provide the fitted seats, armrests, and foot rests, and undergo many hours of training.
It sounds like they were stranded to me.
 

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So for a guy that doesn't follow nearly any world events, news, politics, etc. help me understand here.

Our former administration sent these people to space, couldn't get them home, and a private entity had to basically say "hold my beer" and went and retrieved the poor fuckers that have been stuck in space for fuck knows how long!? This cannot be real, is it?
Elon offered but Biden said no.

Surprising...Nope. It was to be the next presidents problem apparently.

It was pretty surreal watching all that go down, porpoise in the water swimming around the capsule, two custom RIB's and a PWC handled the business, and craned onto Space X 's ship. All done in less than an hr. Respect to Space X and this was that Capsule's 5th completed flight.
 
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Fox had Mark Kelily’s brother on.
He said they were not stranded, they could have hopped in the other spacecraft and returned any time.
SpaceX said they had to provide the proper spacesuits, The Boeing suits were not compatible. Also they needed to provide the fitted seats, armrests, and foot rests, and undergo many hours of training.
It sounds like they were stranded to me.
If you’ve never watched the documentary on SpaceX and their relationship with NASA, and all that SpaceX had to do to even qualify to put NASA astronauts in a private spacecraft it’s a mind blowing, eye opening reveal.
I forget the name of the documentary but it should be easy to find.
This isn’t Elon stepping in out of nowhere with a spacecraft.
This is a continuation of the contract and relationship between the two.
NO ONE is going to strap 4 NASA astronauts into a can without YEARS of development and proof of provision.
To me, this makes it all the more ridiculous that any delays were caused.
If NASAs in house program could not get it done, SpaceX was and is already a qualified vendor with at least 2 successful unmanned autonomous flights, to that space station docking, and return and another fully manned flight to the space station and successful return with Bob and Doug.
Any delays were caused strictly for political reasons. Period.
Not to mention spacex is cheaper.

Yes, Elon does get subsidized by us…but that is nothing compared to what a straight NASA development budget runs.
It’s WAY better to subsidize Elon and SpaceX than to straight pay a government program.
The proof speaks for itself.
Just ask those astronauts.
 

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So for a guy that doesn't follow nearly any world events, news, politics, etc. help me understand here.

Our former administration sent these people to space, couldn't get them home, and a private entity had to basically say "hold my beer" and went and retrieved the poor fuckers that have been stuck in space for fuck knows how long!? This cannot be real, is it?
Are you saying that Boeing’s failure to get them back wasn’t all over the news in the Northwest? Guessing the recovery isn’t the lead story 😂

PS. Hope the astronauts don’t have any long term health issues. Can’t imagine this was good for them.
 
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Are you saying that Boeing’s failure to get them back wasn’t all over the news in the Northwest? Guessing the recovery isn’t the lead story 😂

PS. Hope the astronauts don’t have any long term health issues. Can’t imagine this was good for them.

We don’t have cable! RDP is my social media, never had FB, IG or whatever else. I had TT at one point long enough to be sure my daughter wasn’t being a tramp, and then that ended as well. I catch some office talk now and then, but I’m not tied into most places for news. If I want “the tea” I’ll go to the local bar, or like last weekend the X in Havasu. To be fair, if a guy looks around, this 3rd rate site keeps up better than most I’ve seen! 🤣

I’m in the zoo again week between SC and DS. Drinks on me one night if you’re around!
 
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She’s scarier than the person in the mask.
Not when you have been stuck in a tin can floating in space for 9 months.

I'm sure there was some spaceseX going on.
 
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Not when you have been stuck in a tin can floating in space for 9 months.

I'm sure there was some spaceseX going on.
I once went to a symposium sponsored by a vendor in France, at which they had several Russian astronauts; two men and one woman. They were up on stage, talking (via translators in several languages….we Americans had headsets tuned to the English version) about their experiences on the space station. One of the men made it very clear exactly what he thought the woman’s primary role was. Now, he may have been just messing with her, but as uncomfortable as she obviously was, she didn’t offer any objection. 🤷‍♂️
 

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Are you saying that Boeing’s failure to get them back wasn’t all over the news in the Northwest? Guessing the recovery isn’t the lead story 😂

PS. Hope the astronauts don’t have any long term health issues. Can’t imagine this was good for them.
Heard an ex-astronaut talking on News Max, 3 months is what they like, six is usually the limit, they'll need extra therapy for nine month and hopefully no long term problems. There has been some at a year, he didn't elaborate if they had any long-term effects.
 

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We don’t have cable! RDP is my social media, never had FB, IG or whatever else. I had TT at one point long enough to be sure my daughter wasn’t being a tramp, and then that ended as well. I catch some office talk now and then, but I’m not tied into most places for news. If I want “the tea” I’ll go to the local bar, or like last weekend the X in Havasu. To be fair, if a guy looks around, this 3rd rate site keeps up better than most I’ve seen! 🤣

I’m in the zoo again week between SC and DS. Drinks on me one night if you’re around!
Sounds great. Always up for a beer!
 

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Fox had Mark Kelily’s brother on.
He said they were not stranded, they could have hopped in the other spacecraft and returned any time.
SpaceX said they had to provide the proper spacesuits, The Boeing suits were not compatible. Also they needed to provide the fitted seats, armrests, and foot rests, and undergo many hours of training.
It sounds like they were stranded to me.
Kelly conveniently forgot to mention that the Soyuz-MS capsule docked on the ISS is there for emergency use in the event of an astronaut or cosmonaut medical emergency or a catastrophic failure of ISS environmental systems. It was decided early on for obvious reasons that wasn't an option to return Wilmore and Williams to Earth.

The overriding issue that Kelly, CNN, and the MSM have studiously ignored is that unknown apparatchiks in the Biden administration (Joe wasn't running the country) decided soon after the Starliner faults were discovered any sort of failure to safely return the pair prior to the election would be a political disaster.

The health and personal considerations of the astronauts were secondary. SpaceX offered to send a dedicated Crew Dragon months ago, but the incompetence of Biden's flunkies and incompatibilities Tommy mentioned above were impediments. Compatibility issues were solved as quickly as possible, but SpaceX was apparently again told to stand down.

I'm not confident it will happen, but sometime in the next four years there must be an examination and accounting in Washington. We must find out exactly who was running the country, and the truth about the Biden Crime Family's years long bribery and extortion schemes, the illegal weaponization of the DOJ, and an assessment of the damage done to America's national security.
 

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Kelly conveniently forgot to mention that the Soyuz-MS capsule docked on the ISS is there for emergency use in the event of an astronaut or cosmonaut medical emergency or a catastrophic failure of ISS environmental systems. It was decided early on for obvious reasons that wasn't an option to return Wilmore and Williams to Earth.
Thanks for that clarification.
Me and the wife were discussing amongst our self while watching the return to earth why not leave on the existing craft. I kind of thought they really couldn’t leave people up there without a craft to escape to in the event of an emergency.
 

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If you’ve never watched the documentary on SpaceX and their relationship with NASA, and all that SpaceX had to do to even qualify to put NASA astronauts in a private spacecraft it’s a mind blowing, eye opening reveal.
I forget the name of the documentary but it should be easy to find.
This isn’t Elon stepping in out of nowhere with a spacecraft.
This is a continuation of the contract and relationship between the two.
NO ONE is going to strap 4 NASA astronauts into a can without YEARS of development and proof of provision.
To me, this makes it all the more ridiculous that any delays were caused.
If NASAs in house program could not get it done, SpaceX was and is already a qualified vendor with at least 2 successful unmanned autonomous flights, to that space station docking, and return and another fully manned flight to the space station and successful return with Bob and Doug.
Any delays were caused strictly for political reasons. Period.
Not to mention spacex is cheaper.

Yes, Elon does get subsidized by us…but that is nothing compared to what a straight NASA development budget runs.
It’s WAY better to subsidize Elon and SpaceX than to straight pay a government program.
The proof speaks for itself.
Just ask those astronauts.
I know you're aware the Artemis program to return astronauts to the moon (the initial crew already announced as a female and a "person of color" :rolleyes: ) is ridiculously over budget and a technological failure, but the rest of the inmates should know too. It's a long piece, and your ears should be blowing steam after reading it. Over $100 billion has been spent. The estimates to continue the program are laughably inaccurate, it's almost certain the costs will exceed another $150-$175 billion if it is allowed to continue. The program will provide little relevant scientific and technological advancement compared to the cost.

It's an Op-Ed by Michael Bloomberg, who has always been on kneepads before the Democrats. That's obvious by the last two sentences in this piece. Why should Trump have to answer for the stupidity of the program's 2012-2016 initial conception and approval, lax oversight by Congress, and the malfeasance of NASA?

There are government boondoggles, and then there’s NASA’s Artemis program.

More than a half century after Neil Armstrong’s giant leap for mankind, Artemis was intended to land astronauts back on the moon. It has so far spent nearly $100 billion without anyone getting off the ground, yet its complexity and outrageous waste are still spiraling upward. The next US president should rethink the program in its entirety.

As someone who greatly respects science and strongly supports space exploration, the more I have learned about Artemis, the more it has become apparent that it is a colossal waste of taxpayer money.

The problems start with the mission, which is more political than scientific. There is little humans can do on the moon that robots cannot. Technology has come a long way since 1969, to put it mildly. We do not need another person on the moon to collect rocks or take scientific measurements. And the costs of putting people on the moon — and of planning for their potential rescue, should complications arise — are truly astronomical.

To understand the level of wasteful spending, forget the $1 billion in spacesuits that have yet to be delivered. That’s pocket change compared to the rocket, called the Space Launch System. The National Aeronautics and Space Administration’s inspector general estimates the program has so far burned through $23.8 billion. Each launch will likely cost at least $4 billion, quadruple initial estimates. This exceeds private-sector costs many times over, yet it can launch only about once every two years and — unlike SpaceX’s rockets — can’t be reused.

Even if the Space Launch System is completed, there’s a hitch: It isn’t even powerful enough to actually get anyone to the moon, at least not in its current configuration. It will instead deposit its capsule, called Orion, into what’s called near-rectilinear halo orbit. Here, the capsule — which, despite $20 billion being poured into it, currently has a faulty heat shield — must rendezvous with a landing spacecraft, which will then take the astronauts to the lunar surface. And getting the landing spacecraft into orbit, before it can be propelled toward the moon to meet Orion, is itself a complex process.

Simple, Artemis is not. A lot could go wrong. And that’s before NASA adds its new space station into the mix. Known as the Gateway, it will cost more than $5 billion to build, require perhaps $1 billion in annual maintenance and has no clear rationale. The idea is that, in future missions, Orion might dock at the Gateway, two astronauts will exit and board the lander, and the remaining crew will sit in the station and observe their colleagues collecting rocks.

Unfortunately, that’s not all. To build Gateway, NASA is adding a second stage to the Space Launch System, called Block 1B, that is six years behind schedule, expected to cost $5.7 billion and will add about $1 billion to every launch. To accommodate Block 1B, the agency is erecting a new launch tower called ML-2, which is expected to cost $2.7 billion, more than seven times initial estimates, and doesn’t have a plausible completion date. (The company building ML-2 has billed the government for 850,000 overtime hours in the past two years.)

A celestial irony is that none of this is necessary. A reusable SpaceX Starship will very likely be able to carry cargo and robots directly to the moon — no SLS, Orion, Gateway, Block 1B or ML-2 required — at a small fraction of the cost. Its successful landing of the Starship booster was a breakthrough that demonstrated how far beyond NASA it is moving.

Meanwhile, NASA is canceling or postponing promising scientific programs — including the Veritas mission to Venus; the Viper lunar rover; and the NEO Surveyor telescope, intended to scan the solar system for hazardous asteroids — as Artemis consumes ever more of its budget.

Taxpayers and Congress should be asking: What on Earth are we doing? And the next president should be held accountable for answers.

 
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