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Trump was up here twice. Once as a candidate, the other for reelection. For the latter, it was during covid/BLM summer. He spoke in our local little arena. That time the motorcade was pretty epic, but really no high ground surrounding. We did have more black Suburbans in town than GM though.

When he was a candidate, the security was much better than we saw yesterday. He spoke at our local airport. There were no less than 4 shooter teams positioned on various structures both on, and adjacent to the field.

Now, with times being as tumultuous as they are, it appears they had 1 or 2 teams covering. We've only heard of one team, covering from the rear. As callous as it sounds, hunting is hunting. If you are going to use bait, best know where your prey will come from. Before the stage is set, and bleachers filled, stand on the mark and scan your perimeter. All they needed was a uniformed officer on those roofs, and we wouldn't be talking about this today.
 

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All of the “mass” shooters of late…and even historically, are liberals. People who actually use their brains and not rely on emotions…generally speaking are conservative.

This is from someone who is an Independent, aligns most with the right for the most part but also realizes both parties are dirty as fuck.
I didn’t say anything about it being a conservative, i said he’d be dressed out in full MAGA gear!
 

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Trump has this and will show some humility and will give a unifying speech this week. He now realizes that he is
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Morning Joe was pulled from broadcast this morning.
"Left keeps calling Trump a Hitler destroying Democracy and that Trump has a target on his back of course some zero to hero nut will act on it" - Adam Corolla

Guys like Clooney talking that shit.
Only the left media thinks an actor's hate filled opinion can sway voters.
Clooney a-multi millionaire raised in a multi-millionaire family has no clue how Democrats destroy family budgets.
 
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if you believe that....

seriously? Are people really this thick that they believe this shit posted on reddit? Actually, it probably wasn't even posted on reddit, it was a photoshopped screenshot of something that looked like a reddit post, but all blurry and shitty....and people believe it. I'd say I'm shocked but I'm not....the stupid of the average person never fails to disappoint.

...That nigerian guy who calls and has a bunch of money for you is real too...just give him your bank acct information
I believe that the average SS sniper does not have the authority to shoot on sight without approval from whoever is running the detail. Needing to verify the threat before engaging is pretty standard in todays day and age.

The big fails here (assuming it wasn’t an inside job) was not having a better perimeter and not moving trump when a suspected threat was identified. Big personnel and/or policy changes incoming is my guess.
 

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Keep spinning it how ever you want, but this guy spells it out exactly as I did:

 

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if you believe that....

seriously? Are people really this thick that they believe this shit posted on reddit? Actually, it probably wasn't even posted on reddit, it was a photoshopped screenshot of something that looked like a reddit post, but all blurry and shitty....and people believe it. I'd say I'm shocked but I'm not....the stupid of the average person never fails to disappoint.

...That nigerian guy who calls and has a bunch of money for you is real too...just give him your bank acct information

Watch between 2 and 3 minutes in to this video(you won't make it much further than that) I think the post he is referencing is probably fake. Would not shock me if that wait to shoot policy was legit though.

 

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Keep spinning it how ever you want, but this guy spells it out exactly as I did:

Worth a listen!
 

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As I recall, .308 is 2250 FPS, and .223 3200 FPS.
 

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if you believe that....

seriously? Are people really this thick that they believe this shit posted on reddit? Actually, it probably wasn't even posted on reddit, it was a photoshopped screenshot of something that looked like a reddit post, but all blurry and shitty....and people believe it. I'd say I'm shocked but I'm not....the stupid of the average person never fails to disappoint.

...That nigerian guy who calls and has a bunch of money for you is real too...just give him your bank acct information
The Cabal is working with ancient aliens. They beamed down a skinwalker to assassinate Trump so they could incite a civil war that will allow China to take over Taiwan. China will then provide kickbacks to the Cabal. How are you so blind?
 

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Takes it back a step, and reminds everyone that DJT is a real man with a family. Thank god they missed (somewhat) Trump, but I feel sorry for the family of Corey Comperatore.

 
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Does anyone know when Trump is supposed to speak today at the RNC
 

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Takes it back a step, and reminds everyone that DJT is a real man with a family. Thank god they missed (somewhat) Trump, but I feel sorry for the family of Corey Comperatore.

there is another trump supported go fund me page as well for all the victims of the shooting that has raised 3.8 million as well.

 

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Keep spinning it how ever you want, but this guy spells it out exactly as I did:

This is 100% - that building / rooftop (and convienently placed 16' extension ladder) was left open by design.

There is NO WAY that is simply an "oversight" or screw up by the security teams / local LEO. Looking at the area, it's the closest building to the crowd perimiter with a perfect vantage point! This guy's assessment is spot on.
 

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This one gets me:


Why did the cop not fire warning shots into the air to alert everyone??
Why didn’t the cop shoot the guy? I mean isn’t that what cops normal do when someone points a gun at them?
 

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I believe that the average SS sniper does not have the authority to shoot on sight without approval from whoever is running the detail. Needing to verify the threat before engaging is pretty standard in todays day and age.

The big fails here (assuming it wasn’t an inside job) was not having a better perimeter and not moving trump when a suspected threat was identified. Big personnel and/or policy changes incoming is my guess.

They wouldn't need to shoot him, the #1 priority would be to immediately remove Trump from the stage, not shoot the guy.
 

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Who the heck does Trump trust now with his security/life??
If even half of the events we have read are accurate there was a very serious lack of attention to what was going on all the way up to, did this guy have help from government agencies ??
 

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Something I think a lot of people, including the video above, overlook is. He's not the president. At that point he wasn't even the official nominee yet. His security detail is muuuuuuuchhhhh different than that of the president. The second is that Donald Trump is known to push secret services beyond what they are comfortable with, to remain accessible, which I think is great. But, it creates problems for them at times. I think the fist in the air kind of shows this.

I saw another video from a different military sniper that talks about, I think he called it, dead space? Which meant the angle of the roof and the snipers ability to see a threat. He also discussed what that sniper is doing. It's likely, according to him, he's scanning around in the scope. So it's likely while he was looking through the glass he hadn't seen the threat yet. What he said is, we don't get to get a cup of coffee and then go back to the scope we stay dialed in.

Just a different perspective. Now that being said, that is a pretty glaring oversight, even for a smaller security footprint.
 

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They wouldn't need to shoot him, the #1 priority would be to immediately remove Trump from the stage, not shoot the guy.
Im just a simple jack, but youd think they would have a bullet proof podium with 3 sided protection that any speaker could duck under immediately.
 

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Im just a simple jack, but youd think they would have a bullet proof podium with 3 sided protection that any speaker could duck under immediately.

The shouldn't need it if they had properly secured the scene.

We shouldn't want to live in world where our elected officials can only exist on the other side of the bank glass.
 

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Im just a simple jack, but youd think they would have a bullet proof podium with 3 sided protection that any speaker could duck under immediately.
I did hear the flag Banners around the stage that Trump speaks from has a barrier behind the flags, don't know that for a fact.
 

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Proud to be an American...not for the big names and money, but the anonymous big money and the lowest denominations. Those are the Saints we never hear about, yet walk among us.

The screaming libs are in our faces, through media and such. It's what we've been made to expect. The vast majority are really good people, but quietly going abouts their lives.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Actor Jack Black and his band Tenacious D took to the stage to express their frustration about Donald Trump surviving an assassination attempt.<br><br>Kyle Gass: &quot;Next time, make sure Trump isn&#39;t missed.&quot;<br><br> <a href="https://t.co/vtE75wPb8W">pic.twitter.com/vtE75wPb8W</a></p>&mdash; Clown World ™ 🤡 (@ClownWorld_) <a href=" ">July 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Actor Jack Black and his band Tenacious D took to the stage to express their frustration about Donald Trump surviving an assassination attempt.<br><br>Kyle Gass: &quot;Next time, make sure Trump isn&#39;t missed.&quot;<br><br> <a href="https://t.co/vtE75wPb8W">pic.twitter.com/vtE75wPb8W</a></p>&mdash; Clown World ™ 🤡 (@ClownWorld_) <a href=" ">July 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What a fucking idiot.
 

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15 pages, and hundreds more to follow I'm sure.

Some posts are interesting for sure.





One thing I know for a fact, Trump survived, and Trump will win, and that win will be by a landslide.



I just wish a person, father, husband didn't have to die.
 

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Actor Jack Black and his band Tenacious D took to the stage to express their frustration about Donald Trump surviving an assassination attempt.

I'm guessing this won't be let slide like it has in the past.

Might have trouble booking shows and everything else tour-related.

Some roadie will be happy to punch his head off.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Actor Jack Black and his band Tenacious D took to the stage to express their frustration about Donald Trump surviving an assassination attempt.<br><br>Kyle Gass: &quot;Next time, make sure Trump isn&#39;t missed.&quot;<br><br> <a href="https://t.co/vtE75wPb8W">pic.twitter.com/vtE75wPb8W</a></p>&mdash; Clown World ™ 🤡 (@ClownWorld_) <a href=" ">July 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
The wonderful thing about living in America is that artists have the freedom to express an opinion no matter how tasteless or cheap. The wonderful thing about America is we don't have to support them. I tend to consider if the shoe was on the other foot how I might feel. As an example if a Kill shot narrowly missed a politician who I did not align with politically last weekend, I very well might make the same comments, and I hope that I would not be tossed in jail as a result. However I would not give two shits about opposing views being offended by my comments, so if you think these fat bastards give a crap about MAGA people being offended by that video, you are wrong. They only can be held accountable for their comments, by no longer contributing to them financially.

This leads me to carefully consider how I am contributing to the ability for those who don't share my ideology through my purchasing power. It also makes me much less tolerant of acquaintance, family and co-workers. That's not a good thing IMHO.

The biggest question I have as I read through this thread, is what now?

There are some serious questions about leadership at the USSS. They need to own this and take responsibility, She won't I'm sure. Biden took no ownership with his press conference doing the same things which is basically saying the red team needs to throttle down. I don't thing the red team should throttle down.

For me it starts at the level of Jack Black and this video. It's time the red team starts pushing back. You can vote with your checkbooks. I suggest we consider really thinking about where I money is spent, and rather than passively avoiding conflict, we start being a bit more vocal when it comes to these types of comments.

I hosted my granddaughters 4th birthday party Sat when the news broke. It was fairly tense as my SIL mother is an idiot and liberal as hell. Thankfully she kept her mouth shut as one word and I would have tossed her out on her ass. It would suck to put my SIL in this type of position, but my patience is wearing thin with regards to these crazy people. They don't appreciate the good fortune they have living in America.

I used to like Tenacious D. Fuck them.
 

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The wonderful thing about living in America is that artists have the freedom to express an opinion no matter how tasteless or cheap. The wonderful thing about America is we don't have to support them. I tend to consider if the shoe was on the other foot how I might feel. As an example if a Kill shot narrowly missed a politician who I did not align with politically last weekend, I very well might make the same comments, and I hope that I would not be tossed in jail as a result. However I would not give two shits about opposing views being offended by my comments, so if you think these fat bastards give a crap about MAGA people being offended by that video, you are wrong. They only can be held accountable for their comments, by no longer contributing to them financially.

This leads me to carefully consider how I am contributing to the ability for those who don't share my ideology through my purchasing power. It also makes me much less tolerant of acquaintance, family and co-workers. That's not a good thing IMHO.

The biggest question I have as I read through this thread, is what now?

There are some serious questions about leadership at the USSS. They need to own this and take responsibility, She won't I'm sure. Biden took no ownership with his press conference doing the same things which is basically saying the red team needs to throttle down. I don't thing the red team should throttle down.

For me it starts at the level of Jack Black and this video. It's time the red team starts pushing back. You can vote with your checkbooks. I suggest we consider really thinking about where I money is spent, and rather than passively avoiding conflict, we start being a bit more vocal when it comes to these types of comments.

I hosted my granddaughters 4th birthday party Sat when the news broke. It was fairly tense as my SIL mother is an idiot and liberal as hell. Thankfully she kept her mouth shut as one word and I would have tossed her out on her ass. It would suck to put my SIL in this type of position, but my patience is wearing thin with regards to these crazy people. They don't appreciate the good fortune they have living in America.

I used to like Tenacious D. Fuck them.
Tell that to the rock. lol
 

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This might have been covered since I haven't read all of the replies yet. At this angle the bullet would have penetrated his head unless Trump was looking to his right. Did he have his head turned that far? I'm no Trig expert, but that angle just doesn't add up.
See post #657
 

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I get your point. But this is part of America and freedom. We should be able to be free to express our opinions, without someone going as far as shooting a rifle. Even if I think the above is in poor taste. It's part of what makes us great as a country, usually.

In my opinion, what you're trying to say here is like saying trump is responsible for all those people storming the capital. Same with taking bidens bullseye comment out of context. That's a play right out of the medias book against Trump. In my humble opinion, that's the crap that needs to stop all around on all sides.

I remember when Obama was visiting a more rural state and they had effigy of him hanging by a rope as he drove past. That's disgusting in my opinion. As is shooting at trump and the articles you posted above. We all need to do better.
 

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15 pages, and hundreds more to follow I'm sure.

Some posts are interesting for sure.





One thing I know for a fact, Trump survived, and Trump will win, and that win will be by a landslide.



I just wish a person, father, husband didn't have to die.

Just because they missed their shot at putting a bullet in his head on live TV, doesn't mean they'll stop. EVERYTHING has failed and don't think for one second they weren't disappointed that this kid did not succeed, IF he was acting alone.

IF Trump is able to win the election, we will still need him to get across the finish line. The period from 11/6/2024 (or whenever those scumbags conclude the counting) to the day he puts his hand on the Bible on 1/20/2025 will be very dangerous and difficult.

There are TRILLIONS of dollars at stake and they will not simply walk away because the serfs gave them the bird.

IF the dreadful happens to our leader at some point as it almost did Saturday, it MUST be next man up. They will not stop until we MAKE them stop.
 

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Who the heck does Trump trust now with his security/life??
If even half of the events we have read are accurate there was a very serious lack of attention to what was going on all the way up to, did this guy have help from government agencies ??

I imagine that he personally reaches out to people like Musk, Dana White, Kid Rock, Alex Jones, Tim Kennedy, Rogan etc who already have access to security people they trust to look after Trump.

Unfortunately you only need to buy off one person to hurt him.
 

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I imagine that he personally reaches out to people like Musk, Dana White, Kid Rock, Alex Jones, Tim Kennedy, Rogan etc who already have access to security people they trust to look after Trump.

Unfortunately you only need to buy off one person to hurt him.
His best bet would be to call Tim Kennedy and ask him to put a team together.
 
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