Santa Ana Riverbed Homeless Encampment "Clean Up" Starts Today

[Cole Trickle]

I agree I hate when cities mandate a minimum wage claiming cost of living in that area. If you want to live in an expensive area you gotta work for it flipping burgers is not a career job it's entry level for kids. People that say there aren't hi paying jobs go learn a trade they pay well work hard they will afford it then

I understand it for the elderly... could you get machine working a normal job in San Francisco your whole life living in a shitty 2 bedroom apartment only to have the hipsters buy up everything around you and now your rent is $3500 a month.

It’s a no win situation for a lot of people in this state. Not everyone had the same head start in life and the values have skyrocketed due to foreign/tech $$$ money and now you just have to leave the state you have lived your entire life.

We’re acting like it’s easy for the guy working the paint counter at Home Depot to just uproot his entire family to Oklahoma.

 

[WhatExit?]

Homeless people defecating on LA streets fuels horror hepatitis outbreak
By Tori Richards | Fox News

Hepatitis A: How is it spread?

Hepatitis A is a liver infection that is highly contagious. Find out how to prevent contracting it and what can be done if you're exposed. An outbreak of hepatitis A is spreading through Los Angeles County after leaping from a large homeless contingent in San Diego, threatening thousands of people and fueling criticism that local officials have not done enough to contain the deadly liver disease.

Hundreds of cases have turned up in southern California as well as Michigan -- but conditions in Los Angeles, where roughly 50,000 people live on the streets, have prompted deeper concerns. Reports compiled by volunteer organizations have faulted city officials for not providing enough accessible toilets as the homeless population sharply increased by 23 percent this year.

In San Diego as of November of last year, they had a Hepatitis A outbreak. More than 370 people were hospitalized and of the 20 people who have died, 11 were homeless. City-hired crews were spraying sidewalks in some neighborhoods with chemicals to kill the virus.

 

[WhatExit?]

I understand it for the elderly... could you get machine working a normal job in San Francisco your whole life living in a shitty 2 bedroom apartment only to have the hipsters buy up everything around you and now your rent is $3500 a month.

It’s a no win situation for a lot of people in this state. Not everyone had the same head start in life and the values have skyrocketed due to foreign/tech $$$ money and now you just have to leave the state you have lived your entire life.

We’re acting like it’s easy for the guy working the paint counter at Home Depot to just uproot his entire family to Oklahoma.

Being priced out of neighborhoods has happened since humans first started paying for property. It's evolution and it happens worldwide. Imagine saying you grew up in NYC and you deserve to be able to live there even though you can't afford the rent. When you can't afford the rent (or mortgage) you MOVE.

 

[nowski]

I'm sure it's not legal but they should fingerprint and get a DNA Sample from everyone in those homeless camps. I'm sure there are some hardened criminals and fugitives that just blend into hiding in those camps...

 

[SoCalDave]

There has been a non profit group there (Angles parking lot and river trail at Orangewood Ave) in a motor home offering help to those that will accept it for months now. Everyone in that encampment has had the same opportunity to get help and get out but very few accept any such offerings.

 

[Cole Trickle]

Being priced out of neighborhoods has happened since humans first started paying for property. It's evolution and it happens worldwide. Imagine saying you grew up in NYC and you deserve to be able to live there even though you can't afford the rent. When you can't afford the rent (or mortgage) you MOVE.

Sounds good.... let’s make sure we vote to abolish prop 13 so we can get rid of all those old fuckers that bought there homes in the 60’s and 70’s. I mean it’s not fair that they can artificially still afford to live in a home they paid off 25 years ago since times have changed and the rich now deserve those homes..... Time to jack up grannys property taxes and make it fair.

 

[redone76]

Just when I start to get an inkling of remorse for some of these people I show up to work and there's a home depot bucket full of shit left on the front steps of my building. Great way to start the morning. I'm in San Fernando Valley by the way

 

[Old Texan]

Homeless folks caring about minimum or other wages? Please.......All the overwhelming majority of them care about is what they can get for nothing but holding their hand out.

Bleeding hearts will soon demand a mandatory minimum to handouts given. And next that it is mandatory to give them a handout if you encounter them on their corners. Sarcasm? Yup. Possible it could happen in certain cities? Yup.

 

[WhatExit?]

Sounds good.... let’s make sure we vote to abolish prop 13 so we can get rid of all those old fuckers that bought there homes in the 60’s and 70’s. I mean it’s not fair that they can artificially still afford to live in a home they paid off 25 years ago since times have changed and the rich now deserve those homes..... Time to jack up grannys property taxes and make it fair.

Really?! You think people who have paid off their houses can only afford to stay in them because of Prop 13? OK. Go ahead and abolish it (the super majority in Sacto will do that asap anyway). Those who can afford to pay higher property taxes will and those who won't will sell and make a ton of money and go live somewhere else. Everyone wins. But wait, you're likely not in favor of a free market.

Sounds like you and Jerry Brown are on the same page

 

[thetub]

Really?! You think people who have paid off their houses can only afford to stay in them because of Prop 13? OK. Go ahead and abolish it (the super majority in Sacto will do that asap anyway). Those who can afford to pay higher property taxes will and those who won't will sell and make a ton of money and go live somewhere else. Everyone wins. But wait, you're likely not in favor of a free market.

Sounds like you and Jerry Brown are on the same page

CalExit you would get rid of prop. 13??

why give these turds more money to piss away and it would kill alot of people paid off or not??

doubling my largest expense already?

 

[Cole Trickle]

Really?! You think people who have paid off their houses can only afford to stay in them because of Prop 13? OK. Go ahead and abolish it (the super majority in Sacto will do that asap anyway). Those who can afford to pay higher property taxes will and those who won't will sell and make a ton of money and go live somewhere else. Everyone wins. But wait, you're likely not in favor of a free market.

Sounds like you and Jerry Brown are on the same page

Whats the difference?

Prop 13 allows you to lock in an expense and not pay fair market value?

I think you would be surprised by how many OC clients I have that are hanging on by a string with there fixed income. In case you haven't done your research babyboomers haven't exactly done a great job in investing in there retirement and I would wager quite a few people would struggle with that extra $700 a month in taxes. I can also guarantee that most people that are 70 years old don't want to do anything but watch tv and wither away in there lazy boys....makjing a move to AZ or Texas away from there families isn't really on there radar.

This country is run on greed.....50 million in the bank is no longer enough

Alot of low income people moved to areas that were not good enough for the middle class/wealthy and now 20-30 years later investors can buy the whole block for dirt cheap and rebuild a neighborhood forcing hardworking Americans out onto the street.

I'm pretty far from a Jerry Brown supporter and my voting history would back that up.

 

[77charger]

Whats the difference?

P
This country is run on greed.....50 million in the bank is no longer enough

I think i wouild do well with 50 mil just saying.If anyone cant do well with that then they will never be happy and cannot manage money.We bought our house in oc in 2000 others my age were more worried about the kind of car or truck they would rather have,How many clubs they could go to,or an expensive vacation.

As i watched my house go up they continued on then bitch about the cost of housing.There are sacrifices to be made not point the finger and blame someone else its the choices you make when younger that determine your future.Now back to that 50 miliion i would turn around and invest a atleast 10 mil in real estate or safe investments,pay for my own house,and prob live off the interest with the rest.Not hard choices but im sure others will spend like ballers then go what happened then try the blame game.

 

[RCDave]

Most of this stems from the government printing too much currency and the resultant inflation.

 

[Cole Trickle]

I think i wouild do well with 50 mil just saying.If anyone cant do well with that then they will never be happy and cannot manage money.We bought our house in oc in 2000 others my age were more worried about the kind of car or truck they would rather have,How many clubs they could go to,or an expensive vacation.

As i watched my house go up they continued on then bitch about the cost of housing.There are sacrifices to be made not point the finger and blame someone else its the choices you make when younger that determine your future.Now back to that 50 miliion i would turn around and invest a atleast 10 mil in real estate or safe investments,pay for my own house,and prob live off the interest with the rest.Not hard choices but im sure others will spend like ballers then go what happened then try the blame game.

100% agree...

we as a society are never happy with enough. We need newer and bigger and always think we can make more/work harder to offset the expense.

41 years old with zero cc debt and 12.5 years left on my mortgage....The older I get the less I want

I would do well with 5 million....

 

[ChevelleSB406]

100% agree...

we as a society are never happy with enough. We need newer and bigger and always think we can make more/work harder to offset the expense.

41 years old with zero cc debt and 12.5 years left on my mortgage....The older I get the less I want

I would do well with 5 million....

Yep, 5 mil would suit me just fine.

someone: "Hey, so what bad ass boat are you gonna get now"
Me: "Hallett 210"
Someone: "no, with that kind of money you could get anything you want, what you getting"
Me: "A pair of hallet 210's"
Me: "you know, like an open bow too for buddies to come along"

 

[Cole Trickle]

Yep, 5 mil would suit me just fine.

someone: "Hey, so what bad ass boat are you gonna get now"
Me: "Hallett 210"
Someone: "no, with that kind of money you could get anything you want, what you getting"
Me: "A pair of hallet 210's"
Me: "you know, like an open bow too for buddies to come along"

lol...yeah

5 million

1 million spent pretty quick on paying off my Corona house and probably buying a vacation house and some misc. odds and ends.

4 million divided by say 40 years left in life.

My wife and I could easily live a great life on 100K + interest a year if the house was paid off.

 

[Advantage 1]

....The older I get the less I want

x2. I'm 46, wife is 44. We had this exact talk over the holidays.

 

[77charger]

lol...yeah

5 million

1 million spent pretty quick on paying off my Corona house and probably buying a vacation house and some misc. odds and ends.

4 million divided by say 40 years left in life.

My wife and I could easily live a great life on 100K + interest a year if the house was paid off.

Kinda of my way of thinking pay except ill sell my house get the F outta here and to another state.Ill let someone else over pay for my house as i take the inflated equity.

 

[SoCalDave]

On my commute home today it looked like the same camp as it was last week, last month or even 6 months ago. Unfortunately they’re going to have to use force to get them to leave their homes. I’ll take some pics tomorrow on my way home.

 

[Bobby V]

On my commute home today it looked like the same camp as it was last week, last month or even 6 months ago. Unfortunately they’re going to have to use force to get them to leave their homes. I’ll take some pics tomorrow on my way home.

I drove by also off of Chapman. Looked like they were just using rakes and throwing trash in bins. No bulldozers yet.

 

[SoCalDave]

I drove by also off of Chapman. Looked like they were just using rakes and throwing trash in bins. No bulldozers yet.

Must be starting at the south side of town.

 

[rrrr]

Most of this stems from the government printing too much currency and the resultant inflation.

Inflation has been below 2% per year for over a decade.

 

[rrrr]

Regarding the crap map posted above, the woman that made it isn't a "bleeding heart liberal". She just wants to show how much shit is on San Francisco streets, all from 311 reports.

This is a map from January 2015. It's probably twice as bad now.

.

 

[RodnJen]

Regarding the crap map posted above, the woman that made it isn't a "bleeding heart liberal". She just wants to show how much shit is on San Francisco streets, all from 311 reports.

This is a map from January 2015. It's probably twice as bad now.

.

Is that map to scale?

 

[rrrr]

Is that map to scale?

Obviously the shit emojis are larger than the scale. Obvious to anyone that thinks, I suppose.

Let's try something more important and see if your comprehension level is up to it.

What do you think about your state and local governments enabling the spread of Hepatitis A?

 

[thetub]

dont worry rrrr him and his handlers are on it...

they passed measure HHH for 1.2 billion of bond money for housing the homeless

my buddies will get contracts and build housing and make backroom deals skimming money from these weasels...

than they will figure another way to rape us for more money to use for the general fund... prop13 etc...

there on it. solving problems like they always do

Rod pm me yore address and i will send some homeless crackheads yore way... cmon like i tell my libby friends who just smirk...

 

[EmpirE231]

They should bus them to Malibu, great weather... beautiful scenery, and a lot of bleeding hearts.

If they move inland, hopefully they just stop @ yorba linda

 

[Groper]

They should bus them to Malibu, great weather... beautiful scenery, and a lot of bleeding hearts.

If they move inland, hopefully they just stop @ yorba linda

Umm hello.... there .......here

 

[RCDave]

Inflation has been below 2% per year for over a decade.

You believe government reported inflation stats? lol.

 

[Willie B]

They should bus them to Malibu, great weather... beautiful scenery, and a lot of bleeding hearts.

If they move inland, hopefully they just stop @ yorba linda

...The Malibu Methodist Church right down the street from Lady Gagas home and directly across the street from Malibu High School...by request from the towns counsel has ceased doing its weekly feed for the homeless...so any new incomings will have to bring their own food...the church up until a couple of years ago allowed the homeless to sleep in their vehicles overnight in the churches parking lot...
...In addition to Malibu’s homeless issues...drug and alcohol rehab live in facilities are popping up everywhere in residential neighborhoods...The folks out there who have either worked hard for their money or or obtained it through illicit meansare not happy...

 

[DrunkenSailor]

Whats the difference?

Prop 13 allows you to lock in an expense and not pay fair market value?

I think you would be surprised by how many OC clients I have that are hanging on by a string with there fixed income. In case you haven't done your research babyboomers haven't exactly done a great job in investing in there retirement and I would wager quite a few people would struggle with that extra $700 a month in taxes. I can also guarantee that most people that are 70 years old don't want to do anything but watch tv and wither away in there lazy boys....makjing a move to AZ or Texas away from there families isn't really on there radar.

This country is run on greed.....50 million in the bank is no longer enough

Alot of low income people moved to areas that were not good enough for the middle class/wealthy and now 20-30 years later investors can buy the whole block for dirt cheap and rebuild a neighborhood forcing hardworking Americans out onto the street.

I'm pretty far from a Jerry Brown supporter and my voting history would back that up.

Lots of Baby Boomers lost their savings in 08. I know most of the older folks in my family did. Sucks because now they are approaching retirement age and they are having a hard time getting a job. Coupled with no savings and they are in a tough spot. One day I will be buying a large plot of land somewhere and throwing multiple mobile homes on it. Should be entertaining as both my parents and my wife's parents are divorced and they all hate each other...

 

[ductape1000]

Lots of Baby Boomers lost their savings in 08. I know most of the older folks in my family did. Sucks because now they are approaching retirement age and they are having a hard time getting a job. Coupled with no savings and they are in a tough spot. One day I will be buying a large plot of land somewhere and throwing multiple mobile homes on it. Should be entertaining as both my parents and my wife's parents are divorced and they all hate each other...

Sounds like a reality show in the making!!

 

[Cole Trickle]

Lots of Baby Boomers lost their savings in 08. I know most of the older folks in my family did. Sucks because now they are approaching retirement age and they are having a hard time getting a job. Coupled with no savings and they are in a tough spot. One day I will be buying a large plot of land somewhere and throwing multiple mobile homes on it. Should be entertaining as both my parents and my wife's parents are divorced and they all hate each other...

Can you explain how somebody lost there savings in 2008...lol?!?!?!

Lost equity in there home I get. Lost $$$ in there 401K or investments for a couple years but should be back and better than ever with the current stock market.

What they did was live above there means and refi every last penny out of a house that should have been paid off and live like a rock star from 2002-08.

I had several clients that bought homes in OC in the early 80's for dirt cheap walk away after refinancing 2-3-4 times and burning all of the $$$.

Some lost jobs but most didn;t and were financially irresponsible.

I feel bad for people that bought new in 2005-2007 and had there home loose 100% equity. Hard to feel bad for someone that paid 150K for a home in 1985 only to refinance it at 700K and steal the $$$ and walk away.

 

[Yellowboat]

I did, keep my business a float. For 6 months my phone did not ring, been ringing off the hook since early 09.

I went from 100k in my 401k, 60k in the bank too nothing. I am about 250k in my retirement now, my savings is very limited right now as I have been having lots of capitol investments for work. It has been a real struggle, but I am doing ok.

 

[DrunkenSailor]

Can you explain how somebody lost there savings in 2008...lol?!?!?!

Lost equity in there home I get. Lost $$$ in there 401K or investments for a couple years but should be back and better than ever with the current stock market.

What they did was live above there means and refi every last penny out of a house that should have been paid off and live like a rock star from 2002-08.

I had several clients that bought homes in OC in the early 80's for dirt cheap walk away after refinancing 2-3-4 times and burning all of the $$$.

Some lost jobs but most didn;t and were financially irresponsible.

I feel bad for people that bought new in 2005-2007 and had there home loose 100% equity. Hard to feel bad for someone that paid 150K for a home in 1985 only to refinance it at 700K and steal the $$$ and walk away.

My family was all heavy in the electronics industry. Printed Circuit boards, chipsets, engineers. Their industry was already on life support before the crash due to increased competition from cheaper markets like China. When the market crashed so did their industry. Most were paid with stock as part of their comp package. When they lost their jobs that was one thing but when the market crashed it wiped out their savings when they needed it most. That in turn led to them defaulting on their homes that were well within their earning power but because the industry dried up they couldn't get another gig. They are all surviving now but they had to live off of the little bit of savings that they had left post crash and they have nothing left. Hence the family mobile home estate.

 

[DrunkenSailor]

Sounds like a reality show in the making!!

Tell me about it. Hopefully I won't be living there.

 

[Willie B]

Lots of Baby Boomers lost their savings in 08. I know most of the older folks in my family did. Sucks because now they are approaching retirement age and they are having a hard time getting a job. Coupled with no savings and they are in a tough spot. One day I will be buying a large plot of land somewhere and throwing multiple mobile homes on it. Should be entertaining as both my parents and my wife's parents are divorced and they all hate each other...

...Friend of mine has a different idea for an approach ...that we all chip in and buy an old single-story roadside Motel with swimming pool and we will all take care of each other in our old age
... problem with that my Friend is not a fun kind of drinker

 

[rrrr]

Can you explain how somebody lost there savings in 2008...lol?!?!?!

Lost equity in there home I get. Lost $$$ in there 401K or investments for a couple years but should be back and better than ever with the current stock market.

What they did was live above there means and refi every last penny out of a house that should have been paid off and live like a rock star from 2002-08.

I had several clients that bought homes in OC in the early 80's for dirt cheap walk away after refinancing 2-3-4 times and burning all of the $$$.

Some lost jobs but most didn;t and were financially irresponsible.

I feel bad for people that bought new in 2005-2007 and had there home loose 100% equity. Hard to feel bad for someone that paid 150K for a home in 1985 only to refinance it at 700K and steal the $$$ and walk away.

I don't get this lost equity thing. My sister bought a townhouse in San Francisco for $475K in 2007. In 2010 it was valued at $275K and she let it go into foreclosure.

She could still afford the payments. She panicked IMO, like thousands of others did.

The value of the townhouse started recovering in 2011, and now units in the complex are selling for $1.2 million. Why didn't she just stay there?

The value of my house dropped 40% in that time frame. So what? I just kept making the payments, the house is now worth almost 300% more than I paid for it, and the mortgage is paid off.

Maybe I'm just stupid.

 

[jetboatperformance]

Homeless/Bums/Tramps/Vagabonds/ the emerging "sub culture" the problem is clearly growing and pervasive even in my local area ........... Some are clearly in their situations "down on their luck" due to circumstances out of their control and simply have no alternative, many are dysfunctional for any number of reasons (drugs, alcohol, mental illness etc) BUT a significant contingency are living this way by choice . Begging and stealing, assaults are a way of life for some , shitting on the street or sidewalk , scrounging, abuse of public facilities like parks, restrooms ,private property, stealing,shop, lifting and on and on. Where does it stop or get curtailed? These activities are against the law and crimes against society . Not sure what the answer is but something has to be done Its clearly out of control

 

[sirbob]

The clean up started earlier this week - Are they all gone yet?

How many have left if some are still there?

 

[Motor Boater]

Can you explain how somebody lost there savings in 2008...lol?!?!?!

Lost equity in there home I get. Lost $$$ in there 401K or investments for a couple years but should be back and better than ever with the current stock market.

What they did was live above there means and refi every last penny out of a house that should have been paid off and live like a rock star from 2002-08.

I had several clients that bought homes in OC in the early 80's for dirt cheap walk away after refinancing 2-3-4 times and burning all of the $$$.

Some lost jobs but most didn;t and were financially irresponsible.

I feel bad for people that bought new in 2005-2007 and had there home loose 100% equity. Hard to feel bad for someone that paid 150K for a home in 1985 only to refinance it at 700K and steal the $$$ and walk away.

This is painting with a pretty broad brush. Not all baby boomers drained their equity, in fact most of that generation is pretty cheap and conservative (maybe not in Cali). I know people who invested a ton in real estate prior to the crash and they got wiped out. These were savy investors but some bad shit went down.

If you speak to the financial guys they will tell you as the boomers start to die it is going to be the largest transfer of wealth this country has ever seen. More than any other generation. Sure there are some that we’re irresponsible but for the most part the boomers have tons of money.

 

[nameisbond]

Vancouver not only made the top 10 of unaffordable housing. Its number 2, just behind Hong Kong. The homeless camps are all over BC now. My town has several in local city parks. Its something that we didn't see even 10 years ago.

 

[Meaney77]

All I know is I would be super bummed out if I was staying in OC at one of the hotels by the Honda Center and saw and smelled the Homeless Camp surrounding the hotels. They need to do something, these homeless camps have to be ruining hotel business down there.

 

[Cole Trickle]

I don't get this lost equity thing. My sister bought a townhouse in San Francisco for $475K in 2007. In 2010 it was valued at $275K and she let it go into foreclosure.

She could still afford the payments. She panicked IMO, like thousands of others did.

The value of the townhouse started recovering in 2011, and now units in the complex are selling for $1.2 million. Why didn't she just stay there?

The value of my house dropped 40% in that time frame. So what? I just kept making the payments, the house is now worth almost 300% more than I paid for it, and the mortgage is paid off.

Maybe I'm just stupid.

I bought in June of 2006...Basically the height of the Market. I had a feeling the market was going to swing a bit and put 85K down on a small 550K 3/2 in Corona. There was nobody back then that could have seen it fall as far as it did.

Back then interest rates for a jumbo loan were in the 6's. I was fortunate and after a year of denials and fighting with BofA they gave me a mod down to 3.5% and I never had to miss a payment or screw up my credit. They were not looking to help people do the right thing back then. I didn't want my loan balance reduced I just wanted to be able ro refiance into the current low interest rates which would have been impossible do to my LTV.

After my second denial the wife and I drank a bottle of wine one night and (lots of crying) and penciled out the cost of staying vs. walking away. People were basically living rent free in there homes for years before the bank foreclosed or they got around to short selling. I could have banked roughly $3000 a month for 1.5-2 years as another down payment (50-$72,000) and then rented while my credit improved.

A bigger home across the street from mine sold for 239K in 2010 and to this date we are still probably $30,000 under what I paid in 2006. 12 years in and I am $30,000 upside down.

I know several people (many on this board) that walked away and were able to buy a home one way or the other when the market was down and are way ahead of the game financially.

Yes your friend in SF shouldn't of walked away but lest say she had the resources to walk away in 2006 and buy back in in 2011 she would have easily been ahead $$$ wise.

Business is Business....... I chose to keep my credit intact and keep my home. I only have 12.5 years left on the mortgage after accelerating payments and I learned a ton the last go around. I ate it on the last crash and have put myself ina position where it will not happen again. I hope the market crashes again as I'm flush with cash and ready to buy when things are low.

 

[Cole Trickle]

This is painting with a pretty broad brush. Not all baby boomers drained their equity, in fact most of that generation is pretty cheap and conservative (maybe not in Cali). I know people who invested a ton in real estate prior to the crash and they got wiped out. These were savy investors but some bad shit went down.

If you speak to the financial guys they will tell you as the boomers start to die it is going to be the largest transfer of wealth this country has ever seen. More than any other generation. Sure there are some that we’re irresponsible but for the most part the boomers have tons of money.

Most of the reports and articles I have read back up that boomers are in trouble...Maybe I just see it in CA but I know quite a few that are living pay check to pay check with next to nothing in savings....buy hey there leased BMW and wifes new $1500 purse sure look good.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/spon...face-frightening-retirement-reality/94813358/

http://time.com/money/4287851/retirement-reality-boomers/

https://www.aarp.org/work/retiremen...-retirement-little-savings-means-working.html

 

[parker ed]

Drove by there yesterday didn’t look like any of them had left yet.

 

[jesco]

I heard a bunch just moved up the river bed East of Weir Canyon in YL... my mom lives right there so I hope its not true...

 

[oldschool]

Last Saturday, after the supercross,race someone in our group thought it would be a good idea to walk to a bar that wasn't "far away". After crossing several freeway on ramps we end up at this place, that's where I bowed out. Last thing I wanted to do was go traipsing down dirty syringe lane with my wife. We have something similar beginning to develop here in Visalia along the St. John's river(a big irrigation ditch). There is a line of blue tarps and tent(and tons of garbage)along the river. I think the majority of these people live like this because of drug addiction and mental illness.

 

[Meaney77]

Last Saturday, after the supercross,race someone in our group thought it would be a good idea to walk to a bar that wasn't "far away". After crossing several freeway on ramps we end up at this place, that's where I bowed out. Last thing I wanted to do was go traipsing down dirty syringe lane with my wife. We have something similar beginning to develop here in Visalia along the St. John's river(a big irrigation ditch). There is a line of blue tarps and tent(and tons of garbage)along the river. I think the majority of these people live like this because of drug addiction and mental illness.

Did you walk to The Fritz or JT Schmidts???!!

 

[oldschool]

Did you walk to The Fritz or JT Schmidts???!!

They wanted to go to Tilted Kilt, not sure what place we ended up at though. On the cab ride back to the hotel we passed Fritz's, wife wanted to go in but I was tired(what a pussy).