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Orange County is ready to clear out the Santa Ana riverbed homeless encampment. But where – and exactly when – will they go?

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A homeless man ponders his situation outside his tent in the Honda Center homeless encampment. The people living in the encampment are being forced off the river bed.
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January 21, 2018 at 7:00 am | UPDATED: January 22, 2018 at 7:56 am

Posted signs at the Santa Ana River Trail warn that the end is imminent. Six shipping containers have been placed strategically, ready to store tons of personal belongings once the mass exodus begins.

And police and outreach workers have increased their foot patrols in recent weeks, urging many of the nearly 500 inhabitants of Orange County’s largest homeless encampment that it’s time for them to leave.

All that’s left now is for county workers to begin the onerous process of clearing out the notorious, three-mile-long tent city.

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The homeless encampments along the Santa Ana Riverbed will be forced to leave, from Orange to Anaheim, CA, on Monday morning, Jan 22, 2018. (Photo by Ken Steinhardt, Orange County Register/SCNG)

Broadly speaking, this is the county’s strategy to set the plan in motion: At 9 a.m. Monday, Jan. 22, dozens of sheriff’s deputies and other county workers will descend on the encampments that stretch along the flood control channel from Ball Road in Anaheim to the I-5 freeway in Orange.

But exactly when the camp’s inhabitants will be forced to leave or where they’ll go remains unclear.

That uncertainty has left homeless people, their advocates and neighboring residents wary, and in some cases fearful, about how the next couple of weeks will play out.

“I’ll probably end up back in the streets of Anaheim,” said Matt Sileski, 34, a San Clemente native who has been homeless in the riverbed for six months.

“Just like everybody else.”

The county’s plan
County officials estimate their plan to clear the last and most entrenched riverbed homeless encampment could take anywhere from several days to a few weeks. Yet public officials have been reluctant to specify a deadline for the camp’s most steadfast residents to leave, instead saying that the project will be “slow and methodical.”

The first week of action will employ a softer approach, officials say. After that, the pressure will ramp up.

“Monday is our kickoff date, but we’re not coming in Day One and saying, ‘OK get out,’” OC Public Works spokesman Shannon Widor said. “We’re not trying to strong-arm anyone. We’ll come back the next day, and the next day to see if the person is still there.

“There’s no answer to what is the perfect amount of time.”

Teams of deputies, health professionals and work crews plan to gather Monday morning outside Angel Stadium and slowly trek through the encampment, talking to residents along the way. The goal is to get people out so the county can begin cleaning the area of waste and hazardous debris, which county executives have said is needed to allow the flood control channel to serve its intended purpose.

They’ll ask people if they want to store, trash or relocate their makeshift homes and belongings – offering to kennel pets and stash items for up to 90 days. They’ll refer people to pickup locations, where vans will transport them to local homeless shelters.

And they’ll remind the homeless that they won’t have the option to remain behind.

Sheriff’s Department Lt. Jeff Puckett said deputies will begin by asking for “voluntary compliance.” They want inhabitants to make an effort to leave. If they don’t, deputies eventually will begin issuing citations and possibly making arrests. But they hope that’s not necessary, Puckett said.

“Our goal is not to arrest people,” Puckett said. “The Sheriff’s Department will be approaching this project with a reasonable understanding that requesting voluntary relocation will take time.”

“Don’t know where I’ll go”
With Monday’s plan looming, the mood along the riverbed has been dark.

Many encampment inhabitants don’t know where to relocate, pointing out that there isn’t enough space in year-round shelters. As of Wednesday, the county had 250 shelter beds available. But more than three-quarters of those beds were in the two armory shelters, which don’t allow people to stay during the day and limit the amount of belongings they can bring.

Angela Peifer, 32, an employed caregiver who has lived at the riverbed for more than two years, said she is close to getting into permanent housing through a county program. But in the short-term? “I don’t know where I’ll go,” she said.

Nick Trullench, a former IT worker who lost his job due to health problems, wondered aloud if he could successfully camouflage his tent and stay put on the riverbed. Trullench, 36, is on the list to receive a Section 8 housing voucher, but has no faith that’ll pan out. So he said he’ll most likely head where many other homeless people say they plan on going: the streets of Anaheim or Orange.

“Where else am I going to go?” Trullench said. “They just don’t want to see us. This is an issue of aesthetics for the county.”

The county has said it has made a good-faith effort to help people find shelter. Recent county statistics show that of the 623 people outreach workers have encountered since July in the Anaheim and Orange encampments, one-quarter have been sheltered, about the same number is still waiting for housing, and half declined any services.

Elected officials expect the county will be sued during or after the riverbed clearing. And encampment habitants say legal advocates for the homeless have been canvassing the area since the county announced its plan, seeking potential plaintiffs. No lawsuit had been filed as of Friday.

“I’m hoping we get an extension,” Piercy said. “That’s what I’m praying for.”

If that doesn’t happen, the Huntington Beach native wants to get her two cats certified as service animals to bring them along into a shelter. Long-term plans call for a possible move to join her sister in Detroit.

Many riverbed inhabitants say they expect that law enforcement officials’ notion of “voluntary compliance” will be rougher than it sounds.

“They’re gonna come over and intimidate us,” said Conrad Alcaraz, 40, an Anaheim native who said he hasn’t been able to work since he was injured in a car accident a couple of years ago. “To me, this is home. How are they gonna kick us out? What shelter is open?”

“We’re just in survival mode,” said Jennifer Bartolotto, 33, Alcaraz’s longtime girlfriend. “Ninety-two percent of us don’t want to create problems. This is just what we know.”

Neighbors on notice
This past week, the Orange Police Department posted notices in local neighborhoods, warning residents that hundreds of riverbed inhabitants would soon be vacating their tents and could end up on residential city streets. A flier urges residents to report any suspicious person or activity they see to the department.

In Anaheim, officials bracing for an influx of homeless people have reiterated that their city – like 32 others in Orange County – has an anti-camping ordinance that forbids pitching tents on sidewalks or in public parks.

“We’ve been addressing homelessness for years now and … we’re ready to handle any additional demand” for services or enforcement, Anaheim spokeswoman Lauren Gold said.

But some residents – even those who support the county’s plan – say they’re worried about how their neighborhoods might change when the riverbed encampment is emptied.

Elissa Goodwin, who lives in Anaheim about a mile north of the homeless camp, said she thinks clearing the riverbed is a step in the right direction. Goodwin said there have already been packages stolen and car break-ins, and she doesn’t let her daughter ride her scooter alone. Her neighbors have installed video cameras outside their homes.

“I’m thankful because I feel they shouldn’t be there in the first place,” Goodwin said.

But on the other hand, she wondered, “Where are they going to go now?”

Orange plans to beef up private-security patrols at parks after hours. City police officials said their homeless-engagement team will continue to patrol the riverbed, parks and other places where homeless people gather, attempting to link displaced people with resources to get them off the street.

Anaheim officials have a similar plan, saying they’ll continue to offer people living along the river trail assistance, such as hotel vouchers and bus tickets to rejoin family. But they’ve also hedged against the homeless settling down in city parks by hiring private security to patrol them, especially when closed.

“We can’t allow the camping on the riverbed to be moved to other parks in our city,” Anaheim Mayor Tom Tait said. “The plan is that we won’t just tell people ‘You can’t stay here’ without having a place for them to go.”

Kevin Sorkin, who lives in an Anaheim neighborhood that abuts the river trail, said he’ll be vigilant in coming weeks as the exodus begins.

When Monday arrives, if he sees people creating a new camp, he knows what he’ll do.

“We’re going to be on the phone very quickly.”

The Register will be at the Santa Ana River homeless encampments on Monday, Jan. 22 to provide live updates from the scene.
 

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I am sorry but i feel this is bullshit. These people have been left out by the very government that has helped to displace so many people and ultimately they are ok with it. Now the local governments are kicking these people out. If there isn’t violence abiding from this area let them be.
That state is a sanctuary state to illegal’s but willing to kick out legal people from their makeshift housing since the idiotic state has done nothing whatsoever to help its citizens
 

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I am sorry but i feel this is bullshit. These people have been left out by the very government that has helped to displace so many people and ultimately they are ok with it. Now the local governments are kicking these people out. If there isn’t violence abiding from this area let them be.
That state is a sanctuary state to illegal’s but willing to kick out legal people from their makeshift housing since the idiotic state has done nothing whatsoever to help its citizens

There is help for people that want it....

Sadly most of the illegals I know work 100x harder and appreciate what this country offers there family.

Look at the pictures...first guy looks like he could easily find a job and the women look like they eat better than I do.

I do feel bad for the people that have actually had a rough go at it. Sorry but I feel no remorse for lazy shit bags that would rather sleep in a tent destroying peoples businesses and home values just so they can do nothing but get high.
 

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I am sorry but i feel this is bullshit. These people have been left out by the very government that has helped to displace so many people and ultimately they are ok with it. Now the local governments are kicking these people out. If there isn’t violence abiding from this area let them be.
That state is a sanctuary state to illegal’s but willing to kick out legal people from their makeshift housing since the idiotic state has done nothing whatsoever to help its citizens

are you serious???

they cause nothing but problems...

they come onto property and steal stuff and beg in front of peoples businesses causing customers to leave.

one chased a girl i know and scared the crap out of her. (attempted rape . )

drug dealings

they throw trash everywhere and leave those shopping carts all over the streets causing blight

one of them also burned our main bridge down .

I use to think like you, but personal experience dealings have changed my mind.

God bless them and hope they change their ways, but 90 percent are screwed up from drugs and alot are younger kids now...

they are offered housing, but with that comes rules of NO drug use and curfews which they do not want. coppers tell me they offer it and they do not want it..

95 percent of it is due from drugs and drug addiction

my old baseball coach from little league is now homeless due to drugs. I see him all the time its very sad, but he used to smoke dope when coaching us and eventually got hooked on meth and heroin
 
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I would really like too know the break down % of how many are there because of drugs/booze, mental illnesses and how many just need a hand up too get back on their feet.


The ones that have a mental illness or hand up I feel realy bad for, the druggis not so much.
 

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From what I'm told by LE and county officials that have to deal with them, many are living how they want to live. Whatever the reasons they think as they do, they do it willingly. Can't fix what refuses to be fixed is the only way to look at it.

Hard to respect folks that do not respect the property of others and per "sane" societal standards, do not respect themselves. These are for all intents and purposes, broken people doing things their way. Helping many and perhaps most is futile. I wish them good luck and just hope they harm no one else or themselves.
 

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I had a homeless guy living in the ditch next to my gas station one time , he bothered my customers all the time for money , I called the Sherrif numerous times . On about the 4th time I called , 2 Sheriff’s showed up and put him in the squad car , I asked where he was going , they said the county line ...in other words , let the next co. deal with him . This was about 20 years ago , nothing has changed the way we take care of people like this . Maybe LA Co could lease an abandoned building and throw a few cots and toilets inside ...gotta be cheaper and easier to manage then the mess we have now .
 

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I am sorry but i feel this is bullshit. These people have been left out by the very government that has helped to displace so many people

I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with your statement. These people are by in far homeless due the nature of their own actions. 95% of them are homeless due to their drug addictions and/or alcoholism and their unwillingness to sober up and seek gainful employment. This has nothing to do with government inaction...period!!!
 

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There are two new openings at the campground where I am living in Temecula.
$500 a month for space rent. Lots of retired folk and young kids living here trying to get caught up.
 

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The part that really chaps my ass is all of the church and civic groups that are down there every weekend handing out everything from blankets, toiletries, cases of water, shit loads of food, to bringing down gas grills and cooking hot dogs and hamburgers, etc.. They all feel like they are doing the right thing but they are just perpetuating the problem.
 

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Yep, but like most things it is a "feel good measure" not actually solving the prob. If they took the money they spent on that stuff and employed just 1 of them, they would actually make a difference. Granted finding the one that wants that help is hard
 

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Put them on Buses and send a few them to Jerry Brown's house. The rest to the State Capital so every St. Legislature has to interact with these people on a day to day basis.
 

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We were down at Anaheim stadium this weekend and I was amazed.... As we were walking the pits, all you could see was tents and homeless people- It has grown so much each year and gotten so out of control. And on the opposite side of Katella it has gotten even worse. They now have a name its called "Camp Hope" and its like a full homeless community. As we passed all of this my kids couldn't help but to ask questions. All we could say was - This is what happens when you make bad decisions in life- dont make the same bad decisions.

I have to ask- whats the appeal for homeless people and this section of Orange County?? Is it the view of the riverbed or something??? We have a few were I live in Ventura County and even more farther north but nothing like this.
 

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Well as i don’t live near nor have i ever really been around the situation i feel slightly schooled here.

My basis was on some things I’ve seen via Facebook etc. showing that many have jobs and actually go to work daily but due to the lack of affordable housing have been left with no option. One i recall seeing the guy had rented the same house for over 5 years had moved in with a one year lease and the landowner had upped the rent by 50-100$ a year which was affordable. Then the guy showed up and upped the rent by nearly 1k and they couldn’t afford that so we’re served notice, as the guy had found some people willing to pay that amount due to the location and fact those people would be able to cut their commute to and from work so it was worth it to spend nearly 3k a month in rent for a small home.
So i guess that one story created a bias for me as i figured there was more then one of same situation there in those areas.
 

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Well as i don’t live near nor have i ever really been around the situation i feel slightly schooled here.

My basis was on some things I’ve seen via Facebook etc. showing that many have jobs and actually go to work daily but due to the lack of affordable housing have been left with no option. One i recall seeing the guy had rented the same house for over 5 years had moved in with a one year lease and the landowner had upped the rent by 50-100$ a year which was affordable. Then the guy showed up and upped the rent by nearly 1k and they couldn’t afford that so we’re served notice, as the guy had found some people willing to pay that amount due to the location and fact those people would be able to cut their commute to and from work so it was worth it to spend nearly 3k a month in rent for a small home.
So i guess that one story created a bias for me as i figured there was more then one of same situation there in those areas.

That area of orange county isn't crazy expensive to rent a house or apartment..... Don't get me wrong it's alot more a month than squatting on public land and shitting in a bucket.

It's OC so it will never be cheap but plenty of apartments in anaheim that a couple people working could share rent on.

The people you are talking about typically live in RV's and are closer to the beach.
 

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What that land loss did was also big time illegal in .ca, one trip to dca followed by the court house and he would have bent that landlord over so hard it is not even funny
 

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The part that really chaps my ass is all of the church and civic groups that are down there every weekend handing out everything from blankets, toiletries, cases of water, shit loads of food, to bringing down gas grills and cooking hot dogs and hamburgers, etc.. They all feel like they are doing the right thing but they are just perpetuating the problem.

For sure perpetuating the problem is not going to work long term. What are your thoughts on a realistic solution?
 

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For sure perpetuating the problem is not going to work long term. What are your thoughts on a realistic solution?

jail , mental hospitals and programs for the 10% that actually want help.

Never going to happen.....
 

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Recent county statistics show that of the 623 people outreach workers have encountered since July in the Anaheim and Orange encampments, one-quarter have been sheltered, about the same number is still waiting for housing, and half declined any services.

One half have declined...that number is likely higher when looking at the specifics. There are options for them but most choose this as they don't want to follow the rules of a shelter, have mental issues and don't want to be confined or take meds to help, or have drug issues that won't be tolerated in a shelter. There is no easy answer but allowing a tent city with the health and crime hazards that come with it is definitely not the answer.
 

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We were down at Anaheim stadium this weekend and I was amazed.... As we were walking the pits, all you could see was tents and homeless people- It has grown so much each year and gotten so out of control. And on the opposite side of Katella it has gotten even worse. They now have a name its called "Camp Hope" and its like a full homeless community. As we passed all of this my kids couldn't help but to ask questions. All we could say was - This is what happens when you make bad decisions in life- dont make the same bad decisions.

I have to ask- whats the appeal for homeless people and this section of Orange County?? Is it the view of the riverbed or something??? We have a few were I live in Ventura County and even more farther north but nothing like this.

My guess is several things, there are several large public restrooms in the area that people take buckets of fresh water from, that and the river provides a place to bathe as well, and I think the large out pouring of groups trying to help them with food and other donations daily figures into it as well. And lastly there are numerous state and federal social service offices a short walking distance away.
 

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...Im not sure if it is all of Los Angeles or just the San Fernando Valley...but there are designated areas where people are allowed to live on the street in their cars or RV...
...There are 3 different color codings...Red you can’t llive on the street period...Yellow, you can RV or car it daytime only...Green, you can full time it in a car or RV...The Green areas are generally industrial areas...
...My guess would be that this type of deal would only help a few of the Riverbed Orange County people...as I doubt most have any means of transport other than possibly a bicycle???...
 

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I am sorry but i feel this is bullshit. These people have been left out by the very government that has helped to displace so many people and ultimately they are ok with it. Now the local governments are kicking these people out. If there isn’t violence abiding from this area let them be.
That state is a sanctuary state to illegal’s but willing to kick out legal people from their makeshift housing since the idiotic state has done nothing whatsoever to help its citizens
Be the change you wish to see....feel free to walk though any of those encampments to help those poor souls. Don't worry.... we'll wait

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Well as i don’t live near nor have i ever really been around the situation i feel slightly schooled here.

My basis was on some things I’ve seen via Facebook etc. showing that many have jobs and actually go to work daily but due to the lack of affordable housing have been left with no option. One i recall seeing the guy had rented the same house for over 5 years had moved in with a one year lease and the landowner had upped the rent by 50-100$ a year which was affordable. Then the guy showed up and upped the rent by nearly 1k and they couldn’t afford that so we’re served notice, as the guy had found some people willing to pay that amount due to the location and fact those people would be able to cut their commute to and from work so it was worth it to spend nearly 3k a month in rent for a small home.
So i guess that one story created a bias for me as i figured there was more then one of same situation there in those areas.

That homeless camp issue on the river bed has nothing to do with high rents or the price of homes in OC. Most of those folks have made bad decision after bad decision and are there due to all of their bad decisions. Some folks have severe mental illness that is made worse by self medication. There is help for the folks that want it.
 

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Well as i don’t live near nor have i ever really been around the situation i feel slightly schooled here.

My basis was on some things I’ve seen via Facebook etc. showing that many have jobs and actually go to work daily but due to the lack of affordable housing have been left with no option. One i recall seeing the guy had rented the same house for over 5 years had moved in with a one year lease and the landowner had upped the rent by 50-100$ a year which was affordable. Then the guy showed up and upped the rent by nearly 1k and they couldn’t afford that so we’re served notice, as the guy had found some people willing to pay that amount due to the location and fact those people would be able to cut their commute to and from work so it was worth it to spend nearly 3k a month in rent for a small home.
So i guess that one story created a bias for me as i figured there was more then one of same situation there in those areas.

So shouldn't they move to a less expensive area if they can't get a house for what they make? I don't get this way of thinking. Somehow it's my problem that you can't afford to live in a specific area? No, not everyone can live here, or there, just like not everyone gets to live in a 20k sqft mansion...

People will say, ooh that's no fair, bullshit, that's life, if you want [xyz] bad enough, figure out a way to get it then... Don't ask me to give it to you or complain when it's not easy...
 

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So shouldn't they move to a less expensive area if they can't get a house for what they make? I don't get this way of thinking. Somehow it's my problem that you can't afford to live in a specific area? No, not everyone can live here, or there, just like not everyone gets to live in a 20k sqft mansion...

People will say, ooh that's no fair, bullshit, that's life, if you want [xyz] bad enough, figure out a way to get it then... Don't ask me to give it to you or complain when it's not easy...

Damned I’m getting beat like Grads asshole on a Friday evening here, i thought i explained that i guess i have no right to make my first comment solely based off one thing i read elsewhere. And that since i don’t live it or see it i guess it’s rasy for me to feel some sorrow for some of these people.
But i also didn’t know there was a drug issue or mugging etc down in that area.
The one i read a while back was about a few in an area whether this or another that actually had jobs etc and fell on hard times due to the increase in costs vs what they had...
 

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I drove by Anaheim Stadium this afternoon on my way to my Dr. Appointment. By the looks of it that camp isn't moving anytime soon...
 

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I drove by Anaheim Stadium this afternoon on my way to my Dr. Appointment. By the looks of it that camp isn't moving anytime soon...
There trying to relocate them before they bring in the bulldozers. News said 150 have signed up for help.
 

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I am sorry but i feel this is bullshit. These people have been left out by the very government that has helped to displace so many people and ultimately they are ok with it. Now the local governments are kicking these people out. If there isn’t violence abiding from this area let them be.
That state is a sanctuary state to illegal’s but willing to kick out legal people from their makeshift housing since the idiotic state has done nothing whatsoever to help its citizens
There are Millions of dollars slated for housing for these people. I gurantee you they have all been offered sometype of support. Many of them do not want to be subject to rules and that is their choice. Don't fall for the bullshit, an operation like this doesn't just pop up without any prior attempts to get them out.
 

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Damned I’m getting beat like Grads asshole on a Friday evening here, i thought i explained that i guess i have no right to make my first comment solely based off one thing i read elsewhere. And that since i don’t live it or see it i guess it’s rasy for me to feel some sorrow for some of these people.
But i also didn’t know there was a drug issue or mugging etc down in that area.
The one i read a while back was about a few in an area whether this or another that actually had jobs etc and fell on hard times due to the increase in costs vs what they had...
You need to edit your first post..lol:D
 

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i also didn’t know there was a drug issue or mugging etc down in that area.

Strange that you don't know that the majority of homeless people have drug and alcohol abuse issues and there's a big increase in crime in areas where the homeless population is high. Well, now you know
 

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Is it any coincidence that I saw a beat to shit Chevy van filled with boxes of belongings, some strewn on the curb, parked across the street at the park today.
 

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Is it any coincidence that I saw a beat to shit Chevy van filled with boxes of belongings, some strewn on the curb, parked across the street at the park today.
No need to worry. TPD will not tolerate them.

There is a lot of them showing up in Pedro. Mainly from the area on 110 that they cleared them out of. Last week LAPD was on there asses. Have not had to deal with them since. No needles or shit in the alley.
 

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No need to worry. TPD will not tolerate them.

There is a lot of them showing up in Pedro. Mainly from the area on 110 that they cleared them out of. Last week LAPD was on there asses. Have not had to deal with them since. No needles or shit in the alley.
Torrance is pretty fanatical about that, they were gone in a couple hours.
 

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GET A F-ING JOB!!!!!!!!!!

TOO MANY LAZY MFERS!!!!

THIS COUNTRY IS GOING IN THE TOILET!!!!

My honeys Best friend who are a Dr and Nurse make BANK!!!! have a LAZY MFER child (22 y/o) w/ no job, living off mommy and daddy. They keep adding $$$$ to his debit card, paying his phone, apartment, car, insurance...

WTF is WRONG PARENTS now a days...:confused:

I do like someone idea posted here about setting up an encampment at Salton Sea...
 
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If there was no skid row, most of us would not appreciate the warm roof over our heads tonight.
 

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I am sorry but i feel this is bullshit. These people have been left out by the very government that has helped to displace so many people and ultimately they are ok with it. Now the local governments are kicking these people out. If there isn’t violence abiding from this area let them be.
That state is a sanctuary state to illegal’s but willing to kick out legal people from their makeshift housing since the idiotic state has done nothing whatsoever to help its citizens
Fack off mate...
 

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I guess this guy was the real victim [emoji849]

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If there was no skid row, most of us would not appreciate the warm roof over our heads tonight.

...Probably sometime around 2002 a lady friend of mine who isn’t anywhere near poor and has 8 sons
Well some of the sons and their wives were out here from AZ....about a half a dozen people or more hopped in my ‘60 Cad convertible as they wanted to see skid row...So I showed them...These kids grew up quite well to do but they are intelligent and educated and were not judgemental...but I don’t think one word was uttered on the way back home...they knew about it but I think the reality of seeing in person shocked them all to the core:(
 

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Torrance is pretty fanatical about that, they were gone in a couple hours.
I recently drove thru the area behind Alpine Village. (North of Torrance Blvd). I couldnt believe how many old beatup RV's were parked on the streets. Some looked like they must have been towed there
 

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I recently drove thru the area behind Alpine Village. (North of Torrance Blvd). I couldnt believe how many old beatup RV's were parked on the streets. Some looked like they must have been towed there
That is not TPD jurisdiction LA. Del Amo between Normandie and Main. Not nearly as bad as some areas.

Torrance you need a sticker on your trailer or motorhome with a limit on days it can be on street.
 

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That is not TPD jurisdiction LA. Del Amo between Normandie and Main. Not nearly as bad as some areas.

Torrance you need a sticker on your trailer or motorhome with a limit on days it can be on street.

Thanks, I grew up in Torrance. (Bishop Montgomery & West High) and it bothered me a bit that the area behind Alpine Village looked like that.
 

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Love the Salton Sea homeless encampment idea but it will never work. The homeless can't panhandle there, they can't buy drugs there, they can't steal shit there. They'll leave and come back to the OC to do what they do best. Here.
 

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Damned I’m getting beat like Grads asshole on a Friday evening here, i thought i explained that i guess i have no right to make my first comment solely based off one thing i read elsewhere.

LOL... Don't take it personally.. A lot of the inmates have to deal with these shitbags on a daily basis.

I have forgotten more about homeless fucks then most will ever know thanks to my brother. Believe me when I say it's a lifestyle.. The vast majority choose it, they aren't forced into it.

Something most haven't even discussed on here is where do they shit? Think about that for a second.. LOL Once you figure out that they basically shit in a bag and throw it wherever they please it changes things.. Now you get 500-600 people doing it daily? Now ya know what's closing down this homeless encampment. It's straight up biohazard material.

Had the encampment not grown so large and they had a solution for their shit problems (public restrooms etc..) they could've likely lived there forever.


Based on my life experience though.. Fuck em. Push em out, push em somewhere else, preferably to some Hollywood Liberal's doorstep.

It's why I stick with my standard joke "Kill the Poor."

RD
 

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LOL... Don't take it personally.. A lot of the inmates have to deal with these shitbags on a daily basis.

I have forgotten more about homeless fucks then most will ever know thanks to my brother. Believe me when I say it's a lifestyle.. The vast majority choose it, they aren't forced into it.

Something most haven't even discussed on here is where do they shit? Think about that for a second.. LOL Once you figure out that they basically shit in a bag and throw it wherever they please it changes things.. Now you get 500-600 people doing it daily? Now ya know what's closing down this homeless encampment. It's straight up biohazard material.

Had the encampment not grown so large and they had a solution for their shit problems (public restrooms etc..) they could've likely lived there forever.


Based on my life experience though.. Fuck em. Push em out, push em somewhere else, preferably to some Hollywood Liberal's doorstep.

It's why I stick with my standard joke "Kill the Poor."

RD


Good thing we have bleeding hearts like this person, who's mapped out poop in SF so people know where to walk:

https://www.thrillist.com/news/nation/human-wasteland-map-plots-all-of-san-franciscos-poop

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So shouldn't they move to a less expensive area if they can't get a house for what they make? I don't get this way of thinking. Somehow it's my problem that you can't afford to live in a specific area? No, not everyone can live here, or there, just like not everyone gets to live in a 20k sqft mansion...

People will say, ooh that's no fair, bullshit, that's life, if you want [xyz] bad enough, figure out a way to get it then... Don't ask me to give it to you or complain when it's not easy...
I agree I hate when cities mandate a minimum wage claiming cost of living in that area. If you want to live in an expensive area you gotta work for it flipping burgers is not a career job it's entry level for kids. People that say there aren't hi paying jobs go learn a trade they pay well work hard they will afford it then
 
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