Sank my boat yesterday

[RiverDave]

1. Glad all of you survived sounds like some very quick thinking experience boaters .
2. Contact the sheriffs department get the details find out how they are trying to pass this law. obviously it's with the Mohave County supervisors , let's [RD] everybody get together lobby with the association and get it done.

3. If you could find out the info on that other boat your insurance company will go after their them in their policy big time!

This is very very slippery slope.. I’d hate to look at the river one day and say “remember when we used to be able to boat on that?”

How big is to big? Who decides that?

Both the tree huggers and the wakeboard boat mfg’s have more money to throw at this then our niche group.

To put that into perspective there are some wakeboard co pansies putting out as many boats in a month then all of the performance boat industry combined

 

[SBMech]

There is a really fine line here that is about to get crossed. We want LESS intrusion and gov in our boating, not more.

Plain and simple, the law already states your are responsible for your vessel's wake, they just need to enforce it. Tickets for running a ballast tank at any level other than empty when you are not actively participating in water sports. Tickets for towing too close to the shoreline and other boats. (remember the 200ft law.)

Actively policing the current issues instead of harassing everyone with DUI checkpoints is a good start.

 

[Kailuaboy89]

I own a rollbar boat...I realize there are a lot of irresponsible owners out there, I like to think I am not one of them. I think the answer is education, and awareness, and yes I also realize some cannot be educated out of sheer stupidity. Ultra912, I am really sorry to hear of this happening, and I am glad that you and family all got out alive, and very sorry to hear that your boat was sunk...
I really do hope everyone can continue to boat safely, and figure out a common courtesy. I will continue to boat safely and be respectful of ALL boaters no matter WHAT they drive. and I also do not run with my ballasts full, it drives like crap, and uses a ton of fuel.. hopefully these idiots get a clue soon before we are further regulated..we need more rules like a hole in the head...

 

[River Lynchmob]

Sorry to hear about your sinking.

This is not a wake board boat issue. When I'm in mine with no ballast the wake is no bigger than that of my Schiada and smaller than our 27' Hallett. It is a problem with the operators. Most guys that run around the river with surfers or driving with full ballast tanks (which I don't get, you're way slower, use way more gas and a lot lower to the water), this is an issue that they either don't know or do not care. With the younger guys driving these boats like that they just don't care. Their attitude carries over from their normal everyday lives to the water. Not much you can do about them unless you can get a few of them on they are responsible for their own wakes and it costs them money. They ones that don't know need to be educated and that would start with the dealer explaining it to them.

As was said earlier, we do not need to give anymore ammo to the environmentalists to try and get all boats thrown off of the water.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Question pertaining to the above -

What benefit is there to running around with the ballast tanks full, half full or whatever. It is just the time it takes to fill and empty them? Does the boat ride much better that weighted down? It can't be efficient at all.

 

[RiverDave]

Question pertaining to the above -

What benefit is there to running around with the ballast tanks full, half full or whatever. It is just the time it takes to fill and empty them? Does the boat ride much better that weighted down? It can't be efficient at all.

With some of the older ones they rode considerably better wth ballast.. Don’t know about the newer ones.

 

[spectras only]

Sorry to hear what happened to you. Good thing nobody hurt. If the battery was disconnected upon recovery of the boat, immediately flushing the engine and drying the rest of the boat, wiring connections, it's amazing how it can survive a sinking.
I personally would never own a bow rider. Seen a few [ early Supras ] taking on water and sink. Had my fair share navigating the Fraser River where there's lots of tugboat traffic daily and once I got swamped in the 19 Spectra in a narrow part of the river. Slowed down seeing the giant wakes, managed to get over the first one, submarined the second, filling the inside with almost a foot of water. Engine quit, luckily there was a Searay cruiser giving me a tow to a nearby ramp. In ten minutes, my bilge pump managed to get the water out and the engine restarted no problem.
Got a lot of free board of my Mirage but still go wide when I see those suckers coming my way to avoid getting dirty river spray in my face. My boat can put out a hell of a wake too without ballast tank when diggin the transom deep. Fucking lake lice always follow me like school of fish to jump.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

What do you guys do when you boat places that have a lot of houseboats and big cruisers? Cruisers put off bigger wakes than most wakeboats. I’ve boated many lakes where you have to keep your eyes peeled for these types of boats and adjust your speed accordingly. You can come around a narrow bend at lake Powell and be right on top of a tour boat.

The wave,lengths on those big cruisers/houseboats/ferries are much wider thus making them much more managable to navigate

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[guest hs]

The 200 foot thing is kind of interesting to me. Do you think there are parts of Parker and Needles that are not that far apart?

 

[Icky]

The 200 foot thing is kind of interesting to me. Do you think there are parts of Parker and Needles that are not that far apart?

Holiday weekends remove a 0

 

[buck35]

I think 20 somthings driving 150k boats could give 2shits about fuel economy or anyone else for that matter. Had one tied to my dock a few years back and the neighbors were having issues and needed to come in. Asked the pos to move his boat and yeah sure in a bit , my cousin jumped on a jetski after 10 minutes or so and made a pass and hosed the fukkers boat down and he finally got a clue and left, maybe just a tad pissed.

 

[River Lynchmob]

Question pertaining to the above -

What benefit is there to running around with the ballast tanks full, half full or whatever. It is just the time it takes to fill and empty them? Does the boat ride much better that weighted down? It can't be efficient at all.

Some boats are force fed and can fill and empty their tanks in something like 90 secs. My boat they are filled and emptied by pumps. Its take about 6 mins of so to fill and empty. My boat there is not much difference driving with them full or empty. I only boat down by the reeds when I am pulling people or running ballast. I head down and while everyone is getting ready I start to fill the tanks, by the time they are full is abot the same time they are ready to surf or what ever and the same when they are done, I start emptying them and by the time they are picked up, rope is in etc the tanks are dry.

 

[outboardrick]

This is a very sad deal and I'm glad no one was physically hurt. And not to side track the thread, but now that the route into the river has been plastered all over RDP and the internet, many dipshits that would normally stay on the lake are now brave enough to run up the Gorge. I faced 2 boats side by side with one trailing, head on, as I was coming back on the lake from the river.....They were hugging the island and thought they owned the 50' wide deep channel. I predict there will begin to be more incidents in this area in the near future.

 

[Backlash]

How do you cross a wake when overtaking another boat?

Like this.

 

[Ziggy]

Start a go fund me for a legal fund to ban surf boats anywhere except a closed course . I’d contribute the first Fat Head


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That's what it's gonna take, including making the manfacturers responsible.

 

[Cdog]

Does insurance cover the retrieval of the boat once it sinks in a situation like this?

 

[H2O]

Really sorry to hear this. Glad everyone is OK, but it still sucks.

I'm going through an insurance claim right now. I suggest you take a breath, take your time, and get all your ducks in a row before submitting your paperwork. Unless you have a stated value policy they will assign an adjuster, possibly an accredited Marine Surveyor to asses the value of your boat.
You want to gather every receipt you've ever spend on the boat. Gather recent photos showing condition, etc. Make a list of standard equipment, audio and upgrades, etc. And don't forget personal property that was lost on the boat. I just did a spread sheet for my personal property loss and was surprised at the number when you add up life vests, bumpers, anchor and lines, spare prop, etc, tool, vest, skis and tubes, etc. Plus you guys have cell phones and whatever else too.

Sorry again, good luck with the process.

 

[Cdog]

How do you cross a wake when overtaking another boat?

Like this.

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I think a lot of people freak out after the first jump and throttle down. When they do that the weight transfer to the bow happens and sploosh water over the bow. It’s like a woop section on a dirt bike. There’s a rhythm to it.

 

[Old Texan]

Sorry ot hear this happened but happy your crew was all safe.

This is the perfect opportunity to bring a civil suit against the wake boat. They are responsible for their wake and any damage done. Same as commercial boats are on big waterways. LE doesn't sound like they want to take the initiative and I'd guess the county, cities won't for ear of losing revenue or something of the sort.

I've twice almost been swamped in narrow channels of the Port of Freeport by a shrimp trawler and a oil supply boat. Both were in a hurry and pinned my small center console boat between them and rip rap shore. Fortunately both pulled back but the wakes were there and got me airborn.

The owner of the shrimper looked me up the next day with an apology and offer to pay for any damage. There was no damage but it was pretty close. The CG sited both Capts and they were fined. As far as I know, the rules of all navigable waters are the same for wake control. It is just going to take someone making it stick in court and LE will be forced to act.

Most wake boaters are responsible and will do what is right, others will have to learn the hard way.

 

[DWC]

A few shots from IG feeds. The wake size on some of these is ridiculous

We had a huge boat making pass after pass next to BigBore’s docks last Easter. They seemed to be trying to figure out the boat going in circles. Holy hell. Wouldn’t have believed how big they were if i wasn’t there.

 

[Andy01]

Sorry to hear about your boat sinking. It’s a boat it can be replaced, your family is the important part. Happy you made it through the ordeal okay.


Devils advocate here.....

A persons wake is their responsibility, if you’re floating and the wake sinks your boat that is one thing. If you don’t have a big enough boat or skill set to cross the wake safely that isn’t their fault. You can’t run into a parked car in the mall parking lot and say “you shouldn’t have parked there”. If you make the choice to cross the wake you’ve committed to something that can have very devastating results. Like what happen yesterday.

These people work hard just like the rest of us, they see a different way of enjoying the lake. It’s unfortunate that it involves us as performance boaters because we have to run over their wakes, but they are not trying to sink your boat, rather show their friends and family a good time. Time they probably worked damn hard to afford. In this example if the Ultra deck operator was inconvenienced by slowing down and waiting for a better place to pass the boat would still be a float or undamaged. Instead the Ultra owner chose to go for it, it didn’t end well. He drove over the back of a wave, it drive over him.

We don’t need me more rules or laws telling us how to enjoy or pleasure time, we need to be more diligent in our own actions.

 

[footer]

Holy shit. That must've been crazy scary for everyone on board. Good to read you're all okay. Sorry about your boat. That just sucks. I hope the insurer takes good care of you.

 

[RCDave]

I do not understand wake surfing. That's is what the ocean is for - real surfing. Plus who wants to suck down all that exhaust and carbon monoxide?

 

[HALLETT BOY]

This week it's wakeboard boats and huge waves , last week it was rude people with stereos blaring too load , the week before last it was someone in a big cat blasting by someone slower on the river and washing them down with prop spray , the week before that it some old guys boat too loud , someone taking too long on the launch ramp , it will never end . One thing is for sure , you DO NOT want any Govt intervention , nothing good will come from that . I hate to admit , but it's nothing more than a degradation of society as a whole . Oh , I forgot , water cannons the week before ....

 

[Magic1]

What a crappy set of circumstances that all came together at once. Can't imagine the helpless feeling as the boat went down. Glad to hear everyone is OK! From your description it sounds like it could have been much worse.

Boggles my mind why any wakeboat driver would cruise so slowly while loaded up with ballast? It burns a ton of fuel and if there's any wind or chop it's a wet ride. Some dealers do a great job educating their customers on boating safety and etiquette, others not so much...

-Zack

The majority of these wake boats are all the same, they all do this and dont care. As stated the Parker Strip is getting destroyed by them. From the docks to the shores and the bars. The sad part is for what? to look like a dog humping a wakeboard at 3mph? A lot of lakes are done too, I have been reading how they are passing laws that say all tow sports must be done on a plane. I think this eliminates wake surfing that causes this problem. I read somewhere the law is the rope has 20' long and must be used. If the " surfer" lest go of the rope he is now a swimmer and the operator of the boat cant go faster then wake-less speed within 50' of a swimmer. There is a way for LEO to stop this.

My best bud wake surfs, but he does it far away from property, never near property and allways during the week. he is one of a thous

You should read more.

https://www.boatus.com/seaworthy/magazine/2015/october/boat-wake-damage-liability.asp

In my opinion its wake surfing that has caused this issue. Never had a problem like this before this sport came out. It not only produces a wake but a swell that travels down the river far from the boat. Some lakes have laws that say all tow sports must be done on a plane. I have read a few forms that say technically once the surfer lets go of the rope he is now a swimmer and a tow boat cant travel faster then a wakeless speed within 100' of a swimmer.

Its just a stupid sport that hopefully will fade away when they realize how stupid most of them look and then remember this isn't middle america, we do have a beach with nice sets that is meant for surfing. The river isnt.....

 

[River Lynchmob]

I do not understand wake surfing. That's is what the ocean is for - real surfing. Plus who wants to suck down all that exhaust and carbon monoxide?

You don't suck down any exhaust.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

How do you cross a wake when overtaking another boat?

Like this.

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So you are saying that if the boat is already out of the water, the water from a large wake will not swamp the boat. Brilliant!

 

[RCDave]

You don't suck down any exhaust.

Wouldn't the exhaust resurface in just a few feet, despite be diverted downward?

 

[Slats]

Sorry for your boat. Glad your family got out safe. I agree with the ballast rule of no ski no ballast. I hope that something can be done about that. I don't really want a bunch of new laws out in the lake. Hope your inshurance takes care of you. I found that driving thru the large wake was best. Not at top speed but enough to stay on top

 

[River Lynchmob]

The majority of these wake boats are all the same, they all do this and dont care. As stated the Parker Strip is getting destroyed by them. From the docks to the shores and the bars. The sad part is for what? to look like a dog humping a wakeboard at 3mph? A lot of lakes are done too, I have been reading how they are passing laws that say all tow sports must be done on a plane. I think this eliminates wake surfing that causes this problem. I read somewhere the law is the rope has 20' long and must be used. If the " surfer" lest go of the rope he is now a swimmer and the operator of the boat cant go faster then wake-less speed within 50' of a swimmer. There is a way for LEO to stop this.

My best bud wake surfs, but he does it far away from property, never near property and allways during the week. he is one of a thous




In my opinion its wake surfing that has caused this issue. Never had a problem like this before this sport came out. It not only produces a wake but a swell that travels down the river far from the boat. Some lakes have laws that say all tow sports must be done on a plane. I have read a few forms that say technically once the surfer lets go of the rope he is now a swimmer and a tow boat cant travel faster then a wakeless speed within 100' of a swimmer.

Its just a stupid sport that hopefully will fade away when they realize how stupid most of them look and then remember this isn't middle america, we do have a beach with nice sets that is meant for surfing. The river isnt.....

Wake surfing did not cause it...its exacerbated it. I've been in Parker the better part of my life. When it was flat bottoms and the first river cruisers came out everyone bitched it was going to be the end of the river because the wake were too big. Then it was the 32' Hallett called Honcho that everyone bitched about. Then it was 38' v bottoms that was going to destroy everything. Now we have wake board boats. The whole things boils down to courteous boating...period.

Who are you to say what sport is stupid or not? People work their asses off all week and look forward to enjoying their hobbies on the weekends. If they want to surf on the river, behind a boat and not the ocean so be it it's their choice and their money. That would be like someone saying people that drive cats are stupid...to each their own.

 

[Flyinbowtie]

Well it simply sucks that this happened, and I hope that the OP gets his boat back or replaced whatever route he chooses to be made whole in this.
Thankful that no one was hurt.
I also can''t imagine a situation where the operator or his passengers didn't see your boat in trouble. I don't want to think they saw it and ignored what they were seeing, but that is certainly a very real possibility.
I see the quandry about more laws on the books, and lean towards the leave it be side, but like so many other things in our lives, the idiots who screw things up for the rest of us seem to be the driving force behind legislation that impacts us all. The truth is we legislate against the lowest common denominator.
Our Ski Sanger is an open bow boat, we have a pylon extension for wakeboarding, the boys used it growing up and I hope the grandkids will be using it before too many more years go by. Out boat is a DLX, and it will shovel water if you are not paying attention. The morons who are sacked out and don't have a boarder up drive us all nuts, and the sad thing is that some common courtesy and a heads up attitude towards a time and place for everything would go a long way to minimizing these events.
This is one of those things that has contributed leverage to the .gov doing the licensing program in California, I am sure.
You would think that the wake boat manufacturers would perhaps add something in their manuals that go with the boats about etiquette on the water, but then...we would need the right people to read the stuff...and there is the problem. These idiots generally don't read. I am sure this isn't the only place they impact our lives with asinine behavior.
Like everything else in the world, people need to be held accountable and responsible for their actions, if we just got back to that this would be one of many problems that would be solved.

 

[RCDave]

Versus.

LOL (trying to inject a lil humor)

 

[SBMech]

You don't suck down any exhaust.

That makes hardly any difference, it's the fact that your new water sports toy has cats.

 

[SBMech]

Wake surfing did not cause it...its exacerbated it. I've been in Parker the better part of my life. When it was flat bottoms and the first river cruisers came out everyone bitched it was going to be the end of the river because the wake were too big. Then it was the 32' Hallett called Honcho that everyone bitched about. Then it was 38' v bottoms that was going to destroy everything. Now we have wake board boats. The whole things boils down to courteous boating...period.

Who are you to say what sport is stupid or not? People work their asses off all week and look forward to enjoying their hobbies on the weekends. If they want to surf on the river, behind a boat and not the ocean so be it it's their choice and their money. That would be like someone saying people that drive cats are stupid...to each their own.

To each their own is right, but what if your "own" is dangerous or hazardous to the rest of us?

I get the share the water thing, I am all for it, but there has to be some common sense rules that we can all agree on, towing or surfing or whatever in a narrow part of the river (a terrible place for any of that IMO) is hazardous to everyone.

You should not have to be forced off plane and putt past a guy blocking egress to the rest of the river because he feels like being a chode in a 100' wide section.

 

[River Lynchmob]

To each their own is right, but what if your "own" is dangerous or hazardous to the rest of us?

I get the share the water thing, I am all for it, but there has to be some common sense rules that we can all agree on, towing or surfing or whatever in a narrow part of the river (a terrible place for any of that IMO) is hazardous to everyone.

You should not have to be forced off plane and putt past a guy blocking egress to the rest of the river because he feels like being a chode in a 100' wide section.

I agree with all of that and that's how I boat in anything I am driving. There are plenty of people in non roll bar boats that are just as inconsiderate as some roll bar boat drivers. I see it every weekend at the river. I'm not sure what the answer is, I just know it's not more regulation.

 

[Slats]

I can remember when I had 18 foot jet boats and the 25 foot boats caused big wakes for me. So I saved up and bought a22 foot ultra stealth with a jet. Loved it. Went down by topock and got my but kicked by the wakes of the 30 foot boats. It always seems like something is causing "problems". I guess I just try to avoid the "problem spots" and hope for the best. It seems like every time I'm out on the lake some jacka€£ is trying to race me on his seadoo.

 

[Ouderkirk]

Sorry for your loss ... me thinks this is just going to escalate unfortunately

I think you're right.

I don't know when the manufacturures started adding these ballast tanks to their ski boats to "improve the profile" of the wake for "surfing".

I am of the age where you bought a tournament boat for the low wake profile and the pure grunt of a straight drive inboard. You worked your "trick" run on what was available. Then as the skill of the tricks guys got better, and the more aerobatic the tricks became (and the degree of difficulty) the need for a larger wake became necessary to complete the trick run to gain enough degree of difficulty vs. style points to take the win. I'm going to say 1996ish was when I saw the first tournament boats fitted with ballast for competition and was released to the public approx 2000-01(?). After that is has been all downhill.

I would expect that it will not be a broad regulation but on a lake/county basis where they will start banning them.

 

[Let It Ride]

Sorry that happened to you, were glad everyone was safe and in injured. We launched late yesterday and saw you at the launch ramp and were hoping everyone was ok. We came out on Sunday and leaving back to Cali today. We saw some foolish stuff with boaters the last few days. On Sunday we saw a guy towing his kid on a tube through the roughest part of the river where the cable cart is just before the no wake zone near Topock. Its a narrow spot and very rough, no room for error.

 

[Willie B]

...In my 18 years of living above and boating on Lake Oroville... I have never experienced any of this or anything close to it...granted, I’ve never bosted on a weekend

 

[Magic1]

Wake surfing did not cause it...its exacerbated it. I've been in Parker the better part of my life. When it was flat bottoms and the first river cruisers came out everyone bitched it was going to be the end of the river because the wake were too big. Then it was the 32' Hallett called Honcho that everyone bitched about. Then it was 38' v bottoms that was going to destroy everything. Now we have wake board boats. The whole things boils down to courteous boating...period.

Who are you to say what sport is stupid or not? People work their asses off all week and look forward to enjoying their hobbies on the weekends. If they want to surf on the river, behind a boat and not the ocean so be it it's their choice and their money. That would be like someone saying people that drive cats are stupid...to each their own.

And this is where we disagree, wake surfing as stated has caused swells not just large wakes. Its my opinion that the sport is stupid and I am allowed to voice that. But just because someone works hard all week don't give them the right to have zero respect for others. How about since I work hard all week I do donuts all day in front of PAD 1 in glamis? its my right according to you? Its called respect and ETIQUETTE and I would never ever do that and I doubt you would either.

 

[Badchoices03]

Look up Heyday boats, center console wake surfing boat made specifically to create massive surf waves, havent really hit the west coast yet but are gaining steam in the midwest, once these hit here it's going to be a mess.

I live on a small lake with a 21'-6" max length and ballast boats make the lake unusable on weekends. Just yesterday someone decided it was a good idea to run full ballast just outside the no wake zone and caused waves to break right over the back of my beached boat. I don't get it??

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[Socalx09]

Sorry to hear about your boat and what happened to your family.

All types of boats can be a problem towards topock. During desert storm, (I know busy weekend) we couldn’t make a safe pass with a pontoon in front of us. Too much oncoming traffic, and the pass would have been too close to the pontoon that our wake would effect them. We just cruised and was patient since the no wake zone was close. Most of the bad ass boats didn’t care at all and passed us extremely close at high speeds only to have to lay off throttle a minute later. That pontoon boat got soaked and banged around. Luckily, our boat has a Deep V and we were ok. We all know your boat is faster, bigger and more expensive than ours, but don’t endanger other families. So I think all boats can create a dangerous situation for others if people forget to be responsible for their own wake.

 

[Badchoices03]

Heyday boat wake

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[JJK94]

I would expect that it will not be a broad regulation but on a lake/county basis where they will start banning them.

What is it that is going to be banned.
Boats with Ballast tanks
Boats that have 14 people loading up one side (Not Exceeding the maximum Weight Displayed)
Boats that have 5 People and bags filled with Lead

Now I like the Rope Dropping regulation.. That will be interesting

 

[River Lynchmob]

And this is where we disagree, wake surfing as stated has caused swells not just large wakes. Its my opinion that the sport is stupid and I am allowed to voice that. But just because someone works hard all week don't give them the right to have zero respect for others. How about since I work hard all week I do donuts all day in front of PAD 1 in glamis? its my right according to you? Its called respect and ETIQUETTE and I would never ever do that and I doubt you would either.

I have said over and over it is a lack of etiquette and courtesy.

 

[ArizonaKevin]

Look up Heyday boats, center console wake surfing boat made specifically to create massive surf waves, havent really hit the west coast yet but are gaining steam in the midwest, once these hit here it's going to be a mess.

I live on a small lake with a 21'-6" max length and ballast boats make the lake unusable on weekends. Just yesterday someone decided it was a good idea to run full ballast just outside the no wake zone and caused waves to break right over the back of my beached boat. I don't get it??

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Those Heyday boats are ugly as sin! Although, in a world of $200k rollbar boats, these seem to be a steal

 

[67 baron sprint LD 390 FE]

Glad to hear you guys are ok, and nobody got hurt. IMO these boats are a hazard, yes it is the driver that is creating a hazard to other boaters. People can say well he should have done this or that, well that's true, given the circumstances it sounds like the op has been boating for awhile , and wasn't going that fast. Those wakes are flat ridiculous , and sometimes it just takes a sec or wrong hit and they will cause damage. So if I'm floating with my family , and one of these a holes comes by and swamps my boat , is the answer I should have started it and moved to avoid getting swamped. Screw that , these wakes are getting to much

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Look up Heyday boats, center console wake surfing boat made specifically to create massive surf waves, havent really hit the west coast yet but are gaining steam in the midwest, once these hit here it's going to be a mess.

I live on a small lake with a 21'-6" max length and ballast boats make the lake unusable on weekends. Just yesterday someone decided it was a good idea to run full ballast just outside the no wake zone and caused waves to break right over the back of my beached boat. I don't get it??

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To go,along,with the lack of etiquette, there are actually some of the surf crowd that truly think its funny or badass when they can get one of their wakes big enough to go over another boat. I have personally overhead some of these tools laughing and bragging about that happening. Its pathetic.

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[Backlash]

So you are saying that if the boat is already out of the water, the water from a large wake will not swamp the boat. Brilliant!

Well Sir, it seemed to work well in the picture I posted!

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Also, a reply to those responses saying the wake is just a water condition that needs to,be correctly navigated...... How is these boats' massive wakes much of any different than a boat dropping noodles with chain in them? They are both navigational hazards created by the boat operator that both can,be difficult to see in time to safely and successfully navigate around them.

Or for that matter, how is it any different than a vehicle losing a mattress on the freeway and it causing a car to crash? Driver's are supposed to safely manuever around road hazards and traverse the roadway at speeds at or,below the speed limit or if conditions require lower speeds, but yet the driver of the vehicle that lost the mattress is responsible for their load and said load caused damage. Sounds damn similar to the statutes and laws for operating a vessel as well.

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