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Tom Petty said it very well. "It's good to be King..." Marie said, "Let them eat cake." Ohhh, they replied all right. It's coming.
 

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30.000 dead wish Trump got reelected.
 

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Someone really needs to turn the channel.

Remember this.
In a world that is all on board with a global cabal (including our own government big time) Putin is the number one opponent of it all.
Biden and company want nothing worse than to end the USA and become part of the federation. It’s what the world wants.
It’s why they do the things that they do.

Why anyone would cheer this on is baffling.
 
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Why anyone would cheer this on is baffling.
Two things come to mind:
Only interested in one side's view.
Closet Nazi.

It gets to be a bit different when you see videos of small towns, take notice of the sun's position, and know which way a shell came from. It's also different seeing the airstrikes in western Ukraine, the ones you don't see on the western media. Maybe even reading the French papers, and seeing what is being reported by returning volunteers, those that thought they were going to fight for a noble cause.

Backing the Ukraine in this fuckery is tantamount to backing our own inept government...those same people worried about other countries while driving this one into the ground.
Why would this be their single "good idea"?
Occam's Razor comes to mind.
 

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Two things come to mind:
Only interested in one side's view.
Closet Nazi.

It gets to be a bit different when you see videos of small towns, take notice of the sun's position, and know which way a shell came from. It's also different seeing the airstrikes in western Ukraine, the ones you don't see on the western media. Maybe even reading the French papers, and seeing what is being reported by returning volunteers, those that thought they were going to fight for a noble cause.

Backing the Ukraine in this fuckery is tantamount to backing our own inept government...those same people worried about other countries while driving this one into the ground.
Why would this be their single "good idea"?
Occam's Razor comes to mind.
Probably

Occam's razor, to me, would dictate that having “Russia bad” beat into our skulls for decades might just be what we are seeing?

Like I said…baffling.
 

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Probably

Occam's razor, to me, would dictate that having “Russia bad” beat into our skulls for decades might just be what we are seeing?

Like I said…baffling.
I've met bad russians, as well as good. Same with most other citizens of countries the US has been to war with. From a purely theatrical standpoint, the East and West, the two biggest kids in the yard, literally, two sides of the planet. We as Americans have been pushed for decades to believe the enemy is overseas. A war overseas is easier to fund, bodies on TV are different than bodies on our streets.

"In the fields, the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind.
Poisoning their brainwashed minds"
 

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I've met bad russians, as well as good. Same with most other citizens of countries the US has been to war with. From a purely theatrical standpoint, the East and West, the two biggest kids in the yard, literally, two sides of the planet. We as Americans have been pushed for decades to believe the enemy is overseas. A war overseas is easier to fund, bodies on TV are different than bodies on our streets.

"In the fields, the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind.
Poisoning their brainwashed minds"


Love me some "Black Sabbath"!!

And I have said "War Machine" is coming to fruition. The lyrics just make sence on what is coming!!


Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerer of death's construction

In the fields, the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds
Oh lord, yeah!

Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to the poor, yeah

Time will tell on their power minds
Making war just for fun
Treating people just like pawns in chess
Wait till their judgement day comes, yeah!

Now in darkness, world stops turning
Ashes where their bodies burning
No more war pigs have the power
Hand of God has struck the hour

Day of judgement, God is calling
On their knees, the war pigs crawling
Begging mercy for their sins
Satan laughing, spreads his wings
Oh lord, yeah!
 

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Love me some "Black Sabbath"!!

And I have said "War Machine" is coming to fruition. The lyrics just make sence on what is coming!!


Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerer of death's construction

In the fields, the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds
Oh lord, yeah!

Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to the poor, yeah

Time will tell on their power minds
Making war just for fun
Treating people just like pawns in chess
Wait till their judgement day comes, yeah!

Now in darkness, world stops turning
Ashes where their bodies burning
No more war pigs have the power
Hand of God has struck the hour

Day of judgement, God is calling
On their knees, the war pigs crawling
Begging mercy for their sins
Satan laughing, spreads his wings
Oh lord, yeah!
Written near the end on Vietnam...pretty damn accurate now as well.
Lately, my soundtrack for the apocalypse has added "Skeleton's of Society" from Slayer, and "It's Coming Down" by Danzig.
Fitting if not uplifting. Good 'ol angry music to work out to ;)
 

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Did you see my new boat name that Don sprayed on a few weeks ago?

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Oh them pesky gamer kids in the Ukie Paratroops having their way with the Orcs:

 

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I think I recieved the answer to many previous questions.
Purveyor of left wing narrative....check..
Never privy to the reality of carnage...check..

And by use of the term "orcs"...either a Dungeons and Dragons kind of person, or a racist.
The only soldiers I've heard use the term are those proud of the wolfsangle...
The only civilians I've heard use the term are those that heard it on the news.
 

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I think you are right
I think I recieved the answer to many previous questions.
Purveyor of left wing narrative....check..
Never privy to the reality of carnage...check..

And by use of the term "orcs"...either a Dungeons and Dragons kind of person, or a racist.
The only soldiers I've heard use the term are those proud of the wolfsangle...
The only civilians I've heard use the term are those that heard it on the news.

It looks like you are right
Would never have expected it
 

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Oh look! My morning propaganda!

In other news: Phosphorus rockets were reportedly fired on a Russian held village in the east.
To some people, won't mean much.
This morning, videos are up on every western media of "phosphorus rocket attack" on Kyiv...
Two very different weapons, magnesium type flare rounds opposed to phosphorus. Not to mention that a grads type, 122mm rocket only has a range of 3-5 kilometers.

For those keeping track, not just blindly following the western owned narrative, both sides have soviet equipment...shocker, right?

For the closet racists, something to think about. Both forces are Caucasian. There are those fighting for the Ukraine that are mercenaries of the middle east, but we'll leave them out of this equation...like everyone else is.

So, largely Caucasian fighting happening. The east is against the west. The west looks down upon the east due to their language, education, religious and financial means. Sounds like a good reason to kill them. I mean, they do disagree with the American elected puppet in office, so they must die...
 

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Oh look! My morning propaganda!

In other news: Phosphorus rockets were reportedly fired on a Russian held village in the east.
To some people, won't mean much.
This morning, videos are up on every western media of "phosphorus rocket attack" on Kyiv...
Two very different weapons, magnesium type flare rounds opposed to phosphorus. Not to mention that a grads type, 122mm rocket only has a range of 3-5 kilometers.

For those keeping track, not just blindly following the western owned narrative, both sides have soviet equipment...shocker, right?

For the closet racists, something to think about. Both forces are Caucasian. There are those fighting for the Ukraine that are mercenaries of the middle east, but we'll leave them out of this equation...like everyone else is.

So, largely Caucasian fighting happening. The east is against the west. The west looks down upon the east due to their language, education, religious and financial means. Sounds like a good reason to kill them. I mean, they do disagree with the American elected puppet in office, so they must die...
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I used to think this was the case. Then, when he basically said "Russia will invade on...", I realized he needed the war to increase the dollar amount he could embezzle.
They start artillery strikes again, 4 times heavier than before, on civilian targets. They've been shelling them for 8 years, but not to this level. Western media didn't care that Zalensky had been killing his people before, and surely can't let it be known now.

So, Russia moves in after the shelling gets "upgraded". A day or two after Biden claimed they would.

In less than a week, the media is going to go all-in with some sort of claims against Russian troops and Putin. There is a town that is relatively large in the north east that is heavily guarded, but at this point nearly 70% surrounded. This one town has major artillery and armament, but no major industry to protect. It does have a fairly nice airport, and some pretty decent "office buildings". The Russians have used guided missile strikes in other locations, but not here.
There seems to be something there they want, either in hand or on film.
"If" there are US assets on the ground, in the east, they are there.
Why?
 

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Here's some weird stuff to throw in the mix...reports of "foreign" fighters in Mariupol, in Azovstol actually, have been going since the get go. There have now been photos and names of Canadian and British released. They have been cited as being "military advisors", acting under contract, not in an official capacity of their home countries. The weird part though, the Iridium Satellite phones being taken from there as well. Ownership tags showing OSCE, "Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe".

That wouldn't be an issue, until you look at their mission statements about "equity" and such. Oh, and their "partners":

  • United Nations Economic Commission for Europe
  • European Bank for Reconstruction and Development
  • International Organization for Migration
  • United Nations Development Programme
  • United Nations Environment Programme
  • World Bank
  • World Trade Organization
  • Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development
  • International Monetary Fund
  • Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations
 

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  • United Nations Economic Commission for Europe
  • European Bank for Reconstruction and Development
  • International Organization for Migration
  • United Nations Development Programme
  • United Nations Environment Programme
  • World Bank
  • World Trade Organization
  • Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development
  • International Monetary Fund
  • Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations

At a glance, my mind doesn’t compute why these organizations need to hire mercenaries.

But then I remember that these globalists will stop at nothing.
 

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I should post a lengthy listing of videos, some in Russian, some in English. Those that enjoy seeing death and destruction would absolutely wet themselves with glee...especially if I headlined it, "dead russians". Most people don't know the difference anyway.

The Ukrainians tried, and found guilty, a Russian soldier for war crimes. Said he shot an old man driving a car. He may or may not have. I don't know anything but what the news says. He received life in prison. Interesting though, coming a week after Zalensky claimed an "end to fighting at Azovstol"...and "a couple hundred of our bravest patriots" laid down their arms. No mention of the other 1000 or so reported POW's taken...as reported by the Red Cross.

Cheer for the Nazis all you want. One of the more interesting things I've noticed is the western media hasn't been showing many maps of the country. They tend to show individual cities or towns, or videos, like above, listing a towns name. If an astute individual was to pay attention, they'd notice the locations on these videos seem to be moving west.

At a glance, my mind doesn’t compute why these organizations need to hire mercenaries.

But then I remember that these globalists will stop at nothing.
I'm sure the OSCE was only there to investigate gender equality issues or perhaps environmental reporting...
 

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You tax dollars at work:


Definitely not where I like to see my tax dollars working.. I would cancel my tax $ funding this in a heartbeat if possible! our country is a mess but let spend billions over in Ukraine. 🖕anybody that thinks this is "ok"! Fuk Ukraine, fuk Russia and most of all fuk our current administration!! Biggest fukn shit show in the history of the USA...
 

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Why don't you go fight?
The UAF isn't going to back down. Really, at this point, they aren't much more than mercenaries paid by NATO and the US. Only way to get paid is to fight. Russia won't stop for the foreseeable future, be it due to stubborn leadership or just to piss off NATO.

This is truly a case of "the lesser of two evils". Who one chooses to back for victory depends on their own vantage point. Being half "wetback", can't say as though I'm a fan of Neo-Nazi ideology, so there is that. Having decent enough memory to recall what the ruling party did to their own people sits poorly with me as well.

Honestly, Biden's possible financial gain has little to do with my feelings about the war. His backing of the war bothers me though. Not only is it a tremendous amount of funds to waste, but is also an act of aggression towards a super power.
 

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Croatian EU minister proposes sanctions against Saudi Arabia and the United States.

“The incredible lie and hypocrisy that sanctions against oil and gas from Russia will help stop the fighting in Ukraine. If we were the ones really fighting for peace, then we should immediately impose sanctions against Saudi Arabia, which has been fomenting war in Yemen for several years. It would also be necessary to impose an embargo on oil and gas from the United States, which took part in more wars than any other European country,"

said Mislav Kolakusic in the EU parliament.

QtimeNetwork
 

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Ah, I was beginning to wonder if the "GRADS" of this thread had overslept today 😂 Posting videos of propaganda, but very little useful verbiage.

Don't worry all you Ukrainian cheerleaders! Late Sunday two battalions of Polish (and others) were sent to help out those valiantly defending Soverdoneske...should make for good fireworks, 70% surrounded and only one bridge crossing the river.

What's really messed up, the artillery positions there are armed with US equipment. Usually that means there are US "trainers" on the ground as well, as that equipment was just brought to the front recently.
 

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Ah, I was beginning to wonder if the "GRADS" of this thread had overslept today 😂 Posting videos of propaganda, but very little useful verbiage.

Don't worry all you Ukrainian cheerleaders! Late Sunday two battalions of Polish (and others) were sent to help out those valiantly defending Soverdoneske...should make for good fireworks, 70% surrounded and only one bridge crossing the river.

What's really messed up, the artillery positions there are armed with US equipment. Usually that means there are US "trainers" on the ground as well, as that equipment was just brought to the front recently.
Oops…didn’t see your post.
 

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Ah, I was beginning to wonder if the "GRADS" of this thread had overslept today 😂 Posting videos of propaganda, but very little useful verbiage.

Don't worry all you Ukrainian cheerleaders! Late Sunday two battalions of Polish (and others) were sent to help out those valiantly defending Soverdoneske...should make for good fireworks, 70% surrounded and only one bridge crossing the river.

What's really messed up, the artillery positions there are armed with US equipment. Usually that means there are US "trainers" on the ground as well, as that equipment was just brought to the front recently.
Well, at least that money isn’t being spent on domestic problems!
Paying tens of billions to poor rich Nazis is what matters!!
 

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Must have been a busy morning...
Anyways...
DPR and LPR forces have been showing some recent "trophies"...those switch blade drones are pretty damn cool. I guess they're only currently using the "300's" in the Donbass region, though the rumors are there are "600's" inbound. The 300's are more personnel/un-armored type deal. Only about a 10 minute loiter time...the 600's, I think they're over an hour loiter time, and more of a tank killer.

Of course, this is all unnecessary, as the Ukrainian soldiers have this under control. It does make one wonder why the "parliment" over their tried changing their military rules, they want the commanders to be able to kill deserters legally. Odd, very odd.

In other news:
For those that believe this "war" started a few months ago, today was the eighth anniversary of the shelling of the Doneske Airport. Eight years ago, when the Doneske people had decided they were through with being part of the Ukraine, and didn't believe in the "color revolution" in the papers here, the Ukraine government used artillery on the terminal buildings. Within a day or two, they brought in helicopter gunships to finish the job. Neighborhoods surrounding the airport were destroyed as well.
Cutting of escape routes for citizens. Killing civilians, because they didn't agree with checkpoints, or being told their heritage was not of the proper birthright...

But hey, watch these videos of people dying! Yay 🇺🇦...
 

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Must have been a busy morning...
Anyways...
DPR and LPR forces have been showing some recent "trophies"...those switch blade drones are pretty damn cool. I guess they're only currently using the "300's" in the Donbass region, though the rumors are there are "600's" inbound. The 300's are more personnel/un-armored type deal. Only about a 10 minute loiter time...the 600's, I think they're over an hour loiter time, and more of a tank killer.

Of course, this is all unnecessary, as the Ukrainian soldiers have this under control. It does make one wonder why the "parliment" over their tried changing their military rules, they want the commanders to be able to kill deserters legally. Odd, very odd.

In other news:
For those that believe this "war" started a few months ago, today was the eighth anniversary of the shelling of the Doneske Airport. Eight years ago, when the Doneske people had decided they were through with being part of the Ukraine, and didn't believe in the "color revolution" in the papers here, the Ukraine government used artillery on the terminal buildings. Within a day or two, they brought in helicopter gunships to finish the job. Neighborhoods surrounding the airport were destroyed as well.
Cutting of escape routes for citizens. Killing civilians, because they didn't agree with checkpoints, or being told their heritage was not of the proper birthright...

But hey, watch these videos of people dying! Yay 🇺🇦...
Shut up!
You just send that money, peasant!
 

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In Stunning Shift, WaPo Admits Catastrophic-Conditions, Collapsing-Morale Of Ukraine Front-Line Forces

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"We are being sent to certain death," said a volunteer fighter in Donbass. "The casualties here are largely kept secret to protect morale among troops & the general public."

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That's a clip from a video released two weeks ago I think. The rumors around the funeral pyre is that particular commander and his battle group were called back to Kiev, and locked up for insubordination. If that's the case, they got off easier than some... lots more rumors about deserters and those wanting to surrender.
 

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Here’s some Friday morning porn for ya TPC.
Houthi execution of 30 civilians who disagreed.
Kangaroo court found them guilty of…well, something I guess.
Figured you might enjoy it!

 

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Ukraine needs to face reality to end conflict, talk to Putin: Zelenskyy​

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Friday that while Ukraine was not eager to have a dialogue with Russian President Vladimir Putin, his country has to face the reality that communication will likely be needed to end the war.

"There are things to discuss with the Russian leader. I'm not telling you that to me our people are eager to talk to him, but we have to face the realities of what we are living through," he said in an address.
I thought Ukraine was winning this war, according to MSM. He wasted US taxpayer's money and 4000 lives of his people. Effin clown, should have stuck with his comedy routine.
 

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Ukraine needs to face reality to end conflict, talk to Putin: Zelenskyy​

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Friday that while Ukraine was not eager to have a dialogue with Russian President Vladimir Putin, his country has to face the reality that communication will likely be needed to end the war.

"There are things to discuss with the Russian leader. I'm not telling you that to me our people are eager to talk to him, but we have to face the realities of what we are living through," he said in an address.
I thought Ukraine was winning this war, according to MSM. He wasted US taxpayer's money and 4000 lives of his people. Effin clown, should have stuck with his comedy routine.
All Putin ever really wanted is half of Bidens take.
Sending $40 billion more just tipped our hand to Putin.
He now knows that there is no limits to what Biden and company will spend to protect their cash register.
 
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