Roy Moore

[500bbc]

The reality is this:

Moore IS going to win that election for one reason and one reason alone. There are more voters in Alabama who would rather be represented by a pedaphile than a Democrat.

Guilty of the allegations or not, provable by any reasonable standard or not. A sexual predator who tried to fuck 14 year olds when he was 30 is less offensive than a Democrat who prosecuted KKK members.

And that right there folks is what is destroying this country.

Says who?

 

[squeezer]

Who I find to be "Ill informed" is a river jumper in Portland proclaiming knowledge of voter preference in Alabama.

Put up or shut up there WTG...

$500 of my $$$ to your favorite charity versus $500 of yours to mine says Moore wins this in spite of the conversations surrounding his past behavior.

 

[SNiC Jet]

Says who?

That would be Leigh Corfman and Debra Gibson ....

Moore wins this in spite of the conversations surrounding his past behavior.

That would be unfounded allegations and a web of lies... you know....the DNC Norm!

ROY MOORE’S TWO ACCUSERS: LEIGH CORFMAN’S HAS HISTORY OF MAKING FALSE SEXUAL ALLEGATIONS AGAINST PASTORS, DEBORAH GIBSON A DEM VOLUNTEER FOR MOORE’S OPPONENT – HAPPENED 40 YEARS AGO!

Roy Moore’s main accuser Leigh Corfman has had three divorces and major financial problems. Filed for bankruptcy three times, once in 1991 with $139,689 in unpaid claims. She has had multiple issues with the IRS and has been charged with multiple misdemeanors as well. Hmm….

(from the article)I’M FROM ETOWAH COUNTY, ALABAMA, AND LEIGH CORFMAN SEEMS TO HAVE DATED MY BROTHER IN 1976, MAKING HER OLDER THAN 17 AT THAT TIME! NOT 14, IN 1979. ROY MOORE IS BEING SMEARED OR THERE IS TWO LEIGH CORFMAN … SOMEONE IS LYING

 

[Grandpa mac]

I think allegations need to be investigated in a non-partisan way.

I think things work both ways:
If there's smoke there may be fire.
If it stinks then something fishy may be afoot.

I think Hollywood stars who stood up for a convicted rapist should be shunned.

I think it's sweetly ironic that newscasters who stood up for Franken's self-admitted (and photographed) acts as "comedy" are now themselves coming under fire...that newscasters who stood on their moral high-horses for grilling O'Reilly are getting canned when the same damned allegations have come full circle.

I think this issue crosses partisan politics.

I think it's ludicrous to insinuate Democrats "are doing something about it" while Republicans are turning a blind eye.

I think it's insane that Gloria Allred is being less-than-transparent about a damned yearbook.

I think trump said Pussy but a bazillion other critical imbeciles have done the same or worse.



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Excellent post.

 

[Grandpa mac]

The reality is this:

Moore IS going to win that election for one reason and one reason alone. There are more voters in Alabama who would rather be represented by a pedaphile than a Democrat.

Guilty of the allegations or not, provable by any reasonable standard or not. A sexual predator who tried to fuck 14 year olds when he was 30 is less offensive than a Democrat who prosecuted KKK members.

And that right there folks is what is destroying this country.

Nailed it.

 

[SNiC Jet]

Excellent post.

Nailed it.

Good Job Grandpa! You just earned yourself a cookie....

 

[was thatguy]

Put up or shut up there WTG...

$500 of my $$$ to your favorite charity versus $500 of yours to mine says Moore wins this in spite of the conversations surrounding his past behavior.

Oh I agree he is going to win.
What I disagree with is your judgement of Alabama voters.

You've (like your talking parrot) already convicted the guy, and slandered the good people of Alabama as supporters of pediphelia.

 

[500bbc]

Nailed it.

From one pedophile to another...

 

[Grandpa mac]

From one pedophile to another...

You bring absolutely nothing to the conversation. You never offer a new idea or insight, instead relying on the most outrageous and disgusting insults in lieu of intelligent conversation. What the fuck is wrong with you and everyone else on this forum who tolerates your vile and sophomoric mouth jizz?

 

[Sandlord]

You bring absolutely nothing to the conversation. You never offer a new idea or insight, instead relying on the most outrageous and disgusting insults in lieu of intelligent conversation. What the fuck is wrong with you and everyone else on this forum who tolerates your vile and sophomoric mouth jizz?

is that one of those oxymorons?

 

[SNiC Jet]

and slandered the good people of Alabama as supporters of pediphelia.

And "they" claim the GOP is the Party of Hate

Perhaps "they" are exposing their own "Bamaphobia"

 

[500bbc]

You bring absolutely nothing to the conversation. You never offer a new idea or insight, instead relying on the most outrageous and disgusting insults in lieu of intelligent conversation. What the fuck is wrong with you and everyone else on this forum who tolerates your vile and sophomoric mouth jizz?

They don't like hypocritical pedophiles like you any more than I do.
Fucking dope.

 

[500bbc]

is that one of those oxymorons?

Heavy on the moron.

 

[500bbc]

Oh I agree he is going to win.
What I disagree with is your judgement of Alabama voters.

You've (like your talking parrot) already convicted the guy, and slandered the good people of Alabama as supporters of pediphelia.

Does pediphilia involve feet?

 

[was thatguy]

Does pediphilia involve feet?

You'll have to ask squeezer or GMac.
I don't know enough about the subject to even spell it right.

 

[squeezer]

Oh I agree he is going to win.
What I disagree with is your judgement of Alabama voters.

You've (like your talking parrot) already convicted the guy, and slandered the good people of Alabama as supporters of pediphelia.

Really?

I have to say this is a new low even for the likes of you. The only thing I am absolutely certain of in this entire cluster fuck is that we will never know the truth. That's a given and I accept it for what it is. What I do not accept is the voices on the Right, many of them ranking officials or Clergy in Alabama trying to justify the "Alleged" actions of Moore based on Biblical principles.

"Alabama State Auditor Jim Zeigler, a Republican, dismissed the charges brought forth in a Washington Post article about Moore Thursday, telling The Washington Examiner that the relationship would be akin to that of Joseph and Mary."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/10/politics/roy-moore-joseph-and-mary/index.html

And failing that saying even if its true its still better than a Democrat...

"Alabama Republicans are defending GOP candidate Roy Moore by denying the allegations that he sexually molested a 14-year-old girl when he was 32-years-old and several of the state’s officials have said they would still support him even if the accusations are true because it’s better than voting for a Democrat."

https://deepstatenation.com/alabama...for-the-pedophile-because-hes-not-a-democrat/

This not about guilty or not guilty, this is not about "if the allegations are true..." This is a strait up Fuck You to any shred of decency the right wing might have claimed to have. These asshole pedophile supporters from Alabama are saying well we dont know if he did it or not but if he did the Bible says its OK and even if that's not enough to convince you even if he is a pedophile he is still better than a Democrat.

So jump up on that high horse and defend the fine voters of Alabama in any way you might be able to justify to yourself but be prepared to be called out for it when you do.

 

[regor]

Really?

I have to say this is a new low even for the likes of you. The only thing I am absolutely certain of in this entire cluster fuck is that we will never know the truth. That's a given and I accept it for what it is. What I do not accept is the voices on the Right, many of them ranking officials or Clergy in Alabama trying to justify the "Alleged" actions of Moore based on Biblical principles.

"Alabama State Auditor Jim Zeigler, a Republican, dismissed the charges brought forth in a Washington Post article about Moore Thursday, telling The Washington Examiner that the relationship would be akin to that of Joseph and Mary."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/10/politics/roy-moore-joseph-and-mary/index.html

And failing that saying even if its true its still better than a Democrat...

"Alabama Republicans are defending GOP candidate Roy Moore by denying the allegations that he sexually molested a 14-year-old girl when he was 32-years-old and several of the state’s officials have said they would still support him even if the accusations are true because it’s better than voting for a Democrat."

https://deepstatenation.com/alabama...for-the-pedophile-because-hes-not-a-democrat/

This not about guilty or not guilty, this is not about "if the allegations are true..." This is a strait up Fuck You to any shred of decency the right wing might have claimed to have. These asshole pedophile supporters from Alabama are saying well we dont know if he did it or not but if he did the Bible says its OK and even if that's not enough to convince you even if he is a pedophile he is still better than a Democrat.

So jump up on that high horse and defend the fine voters of Alabama in any way you might be able to justify to yourself but be prepared to be called out for it when you do.

Did you vote for Bill Clinton?

 

[squeezer]

Did you vote for Bill Clinton?

Nope...

 

[regor]

Nope...

Who did you vote for Pinocchio?

 

[squeezer]

Who did you vote for Pinocchio?

I was living out of the country and didn’t bother absentee voting...

 

[regor]

Venezuela?

 

[SNiC Jet]

"Alabama State Auditor Jim Zeigler, a Republican, dismissed the charges brought forth in a Washington Post article about Moore Thursday, telling The Washington Examiner that the relationship would be akin to that of Joseph and Mary."

As I stated earlier in this thread... Alabama Auditor Jim Zeigler is nothing more than a 24/7 drunken spot light slob who embarrasses Alabama each and every time he opens his mouth...

in other news...
Cop Accuser Implodes in Breitbart Interview, Admits to Making Unsupported Claims About Roy Moore…

…Busted: Moore Put Her Brother in Prison

 

[Old Texan]

AL is free to vote for the candidate they want and those votes are based on what they know firsthand. If the nation is allowed to condemn their choice based on allegations without any legal proof to the contrary, our whole system loses.

I know little about Roy Moore and like the majority of out of staters, never really heard of him until this election became a political focal point for whatever reason.

What I do know about AL, having done a lot of business there and traveling the entire state over the years, it is nothing like the backwoods redneck south it's portrayed to be by ignorant imbeciles. AL is modern and it's business climate is far and away in better condition than the majority on the nation. Automotive, aerospace, power and energy, ship building, etc. are flourishing and this is accomplished by backwoods degenerates as is insinuated by elitist dipshits.

If the AL voters trust Roy Moore to be above the allegations, I have to trust their judgement. We need to stop these media onslaughts of people when no proof outside headline statements are used to effect negativity and demean.

 

[lard ass]

You bring absolutely nothing to the conversation. You never offer a new idea or insight, instead relying on the most outrageous and disgusting insults in lieu of intelligent conversation. What the fuck is wrong with you and everyone else on this forum who tolerates your vile and sophomoric mouth jizz?

Go fuck yourself!

 

[530RL]

You bring absolutely nothing to the conversation. You never offer a new idea or insight, instead relying on the most outrageous and disgusting insults in lieu of intelligent conversation. What the fuck is wrong with you and everyone else on this forum who tolerates your vile and sophomoric mouth jizz?

You have to understand the goal of 500, Nganga, CTG, Tex, Regor and a couple others is to get you to the point of right above. Where you engage in what they engage in; personal insults, insults against your wife, children or family and other varied sundry attempts to incite you.

Don't take the bait. You can not reason with, nor do you want to be on par with the odious.

 

[RVR SWPR]

You have to understand the goal of 500, Nganga, CTG, Tex, Regor and a couple others is to get you to the point of right above. Where you engage in what they engage in; personal insults, insults against your wife, children or family and other varied sundry attempts to incite you.

Don't take the bait. You can not reason with, nor do you want to be on par with the odious.

You left out a few names,no doubt about it a factual post.

 

[regor]

You have to understand the goal of 500, Nganga, CTG, Tex, Regor and a couple others is to get you to the point of right above. Where you engage in what they engage in; personal insults, insults against your wife, children or family and other varied sundry attempts to incite you.

Don't take the bait. You can not reason with, nor do you want to be on par with the odious.

Make sure you tell Jeff he needs to burp you from time to time.

 

[was thatguy]

You have to understand the goal of 500, Nganga, CTG, Tex, Regor and a couple others is to get you to the point of right above. Where you engage in what they engage in; personal insults, insults against your wife, children or family and other varied sundry attempts to incite you.

Don't take the bait. You can not reason with, nor do you want to be on par with the odious.

Pfffttttt.

 

[Grandpa mac]

You have to understand the goal of 500, Nganga, CTG, Tex, Regor and a couple others is to get you to the point of right above. Where you engage in what they engage in; personal insults, insults against your wife, children or family and other varied sundry attempts to incite you.

Don't take the bait. You can not reason with, nor do you want to be on par with the odious.

Good advice. For the most part I try to ignore the worst of them, but playground bullies and their ilk need to be called out occasionally.

 

[was thatguy]

Good advice. For the most part I try to ignore the worst of them, but playground bullies and their ilk need to be called out occasionally.

Do you see the irony in what has happened in the last few posts?
530 diverts claiming the exact thing that he just did...and you jump on his bandwagon.
The truth is that he is the expert in ending conversations (regardless of the level of heat) by reductio or diversion. It's a game to him when he sees that there is little or no real ammo in his belt.
Another truth is that you do tend to present opinion as fact.
Historically, this had been your MO.

 

[Grandpa mac]

Do you see the irony in what has happened in the last few posts?
530 diverts claiming the exact thing that he just did...and you jump on his bandwagon.
The truth is that he is the expert in ending conversations (regardless of the level of heat) by reductio or diversion. It's a game to him when he sees that there is little or no real ammo in his belt.
Another truth is that you do tend to present opinion as fact.
Historically, this had been your MO.

My MO is to present you with news reporting which is counter to the Trumpkin narrative. These stories are full of facts which are admittedly woven together into a larger story and tend to advance the theme of Trump's incompetence. You offer similar attacks on progressives based on thinner evidence and outright falsehoods but don't consider those opinion? Right.

 

[regor]

My MO is to present you with news reporting which is counter to the Trumpkin narrative. These stories are full of facts which are admittedly woven together into a larger story and tend to advance the theme of Trump's incompetence. You offer similar attacks on progressives based on thinner evidence and outright falsehoods but don't consider those opinion? Right.

His name was Seth Rich.

 

[was thatguy]

My MO is to present you with news reporting which is counter to the Trumpkin narrative. These stories are full of facts which are admittedly woven together into a larger story and tend to advance the theme of Trump's incompetence. You offer similar attacks on progressives based on thinner evidence and outright falsehoods but don't consider those opinion? Right.

Most of this forum is opinion.
You'll rarely see me quote a "news" source as (contrary to the usual narrative in here) I rarely use any "news" source as the basis of my opinions.
I tend to make observations of what is actually happening and then form my opinions on where the truth actually lies.

I do confess to actually turning on FOX this morning to see the reports on the not guilty verdict rendered yesterday in San Francisco. First time I've turned it on since I can't remember when.

 

[Grandpa mac]

Most of this forum is opinion.
You'll rarely see me quote a "news" source as (contrary to the usual narrative in here) I rarely use any "news" source as the basis of my opinions.
I tend to make observations of what is actually happening and then form my opinions on where the truth actually lies.

I do confess to actually turning on FOX this morning to see the reports on the not guilty verdict rendered yesterday in San Francisco. First time I've turned it on since I can't remember when.

So where do your "facts" come from? You can't possibly personally observe everything needed to make informed decisions about any modern issue. Sounds like you simply don't feel the need to support your opinion with fact and that is just absurd.

 

[SBMech]

So where do your "facts" come from? You can't possibly personally observe everything needed to make informed decisions about any modern issue. Sounds like you simply don't feel the need to support your opinion with fact and that is just absurd.

Your "facts" come from no personal knowledge, as such they are simply rumors. Recent events have PROVEN that the media and the internet are full of half truths, partial truths, plain out bullshit and every spectrum between. You are simply a quasi intellectual bully, and as such are the epitome of the "internet troll".

 

[Stainless]

So where do your "facts" come from?

From Conspiracy Theories.

 

[was thatguy]

So where do your "facts" come from? You can't possibly personally observe everything needed to make informed decisions about any modern issue. Sounds like you simply don't feel the need to support your opinion with fact and that is just absurd.

But what you call "fact" is usually just another opinion from a talking head.

 

[Stainless]

But what you call "fact" is usually just another opinion from a talking head.

Lmfao!! I have to remember this one, I can see it coming in very handy, lol.

 

[Grandpa mac]

So where do your "facts" come from? You can't possibly personally observe everything needed to make informed decisions about any modern issue. Sounds like you simply don't feel the need to support your opinion with fact and that is just absurd.

Since when is something only a fact if you experience it personally? That is ridiculous

Your "facts" come from no personal knowledge, as such they are simply rumors. Recent events have PROVEN that the media and the internet are full of half truths, partial truths, plain out bullshit and every spectrum between. You are simply a quasi intellectual bully, and as such are the epitome of the "internet troll".

Since when is personal experience a prerequisite for something to be considered fact? That's absurd and betrays your ignorance of science, history, and most other fields of human endeavor. I was not present on the beach at Normandy but D-Day still occurred and the stories of thousands of soldiers is adequate proof for me. I never rode on Apollo 15 either but the observations of just a couple highly credible astronaut sources is enough to convince me the world ain't flat but rather round.

 

[was thatguy]

Since when is something only a fact if you experience it personally? That is ridiculous

Since when is personal experience a prerequisite for something to be considered fact? That's absurd and betrays your ignorance of science, history, and most other fields of human endeavor. I was not present on the beach at Normandy but D-Day still occurred and the stories of thousands of soldiers is adequate proof for me. I never rode on Apollo 15 either but the observations of just a couple highly credible astronaut sources is enough to convince me the world ain't flat but rather round.

You really want to talk science and History?
You have ridiculed much of my scientific presentations over the last couple years, you actually stuck your fist up the ass of the talking parrot and mocked things like the Drake equation as conspiracy theory.

I'm not sure why you guys keep bringing up a flat earth? Is it passive aggressive steering towards the unavoidable destination of reductio absurdum?

 

[Grandpa mac]

You really want to talk science and History?
You have ridiculed much of my scientific presentations over the last couple years, you actually stuck your fist up the ass of the talking parrot and mocked things like the Drake equation as conspiracy theory.

I'm not sure why you guys keep bringing up a flat earth? Is it passive aggressive steering towards the unavoidable destination of reductio absurdum?

Maybe you should review the thread you just referenced. I think the Drake equation is legit vis a vis the evolution of other life in the Universe- it is only interstellar travel over distances we measure in light years which I am skeptical of. Einstein says you can't travel faster than light so until some little green man figures out how to open a wormhole and come through it intact, I don't expect and extraterrestrial visitors. Here is what I said way back then-

"Don't get me wrong- I actually think the probability of intelligent life elsewhere in the Universe is pretty good. I was familiar with the Drake equation before you posted it, though I didn't recognize it written out. I think Neil deGrasse Tyson may have talked about it. Regardless, the Universe is so huge and we just keep finding new planets in the Goldilocks zone. Seems likely that 14 billion years and a Universe big beyond comprehension would provide plenty of opportunity for life to evolve more than once. Again, though when the astrobiologists are finally ready to claim they've found intelligent life, they better offer some damn good data to back it up! Canals on Mars and crazy people talking about butt-probing aliens aren't gonna convince me. Ditto the Clinton murders. Curious to hear more about your theological ideas someday."

 

[pronstar]

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

That's said, there was/is life out there. What form it takes, when did it exist, and if we can even detect it, is another matter entirely.

Funny how we're discussing this in a thread about an Alabama politician lol

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[was thatguy]

Maybe you should review the thread you just referenced. I think the Drake equation is legit vis a vis the evolution of other life in the Universe- it is only interstellar travel over distances we measure in light years which I am skeptical of. Einstein says you can't travel faster than light so until some little green man figures out how to open a wormhole and come through it intact, I don't expect and extraterrestrial visitors. Here is what I said way back then-

"Don't get me wrong- I actually think the probability of intelligent life elsewhere in the Universe is pretty good. I was familiar with the Drake equation before you posted it, though I didn't recognize it written out. I think Neil deGrasse Tyson may have talked about it. Regardless, the Universe is so huge and we just keep finding new planets in the Goldilocks zone. Seems likely that 14 billion years and a Universe big beyond comprehension would provide plenty of opportunity for life to evolve more than once. Again, though when the astrobiologists are finally ready to claim they've found intelligent life, they better offer some damn good data to back it up! Canals on Mars and crazy people talking about butt-probing aliens aren't gonna convince me. Ditto the Clinton murders. Curious to hear more about your theological ideas someday."

They're grey...not green.
Just sayin.

 

[pack3tZer0]

 

[Grandpa mac]

They're grey...not green.
Just sayin.

See this is why I still like you- you got a sense of humor!

 

[SNiC Jet]

Obama Campaigners Rush Over $1 Million in Secretive ‘In-Kind’ Donations to Shell ‘Independent Expenditure’ Group Backing Doug Jones

Two high level former Obama campaign officials orchestrated more than $1.1 million of “in-kind” contributions over a 17 day period in November to an independent expenditure committee with no apparent assets that supports the election of Democrat Doug Jones in the Alabama U.S. Senate election, according to Federal Election Commission reports and publicly available documents.

 

[530RL]

Obama Campaigners Rush Over $1 Million in Secretive ‘In-Kind’ Donations to Shell ‘Independent Expenditure’ Group Backing Doug Jones

Two high level former Obama campaign officials orchestrated more than $1.1 million of “in-kind” contributions over a 17 day period in November to an independent expenditure committee with no apparent assets that supports the election of Democrat Doug Jones in the Alabama U.S. Senate election, according to Federal Election Commission reports and publicly available documents.

Look at the bright side, the D's are tossing away over 1 million dollars.

Trump admitted to indiscretions and was elected, no reason why Moore will not be elected with allegations.

Trump and Moore reflect today's America and its' values.

 

[Stainless]

Look at the bright side, the D's are tossing away over 1 million dollars.

Trump admitted to indiscretions and was elected, no reason why Moore will not be elected with allegations.

Trump and Moore reflect today's America and its' values.

Bnag!

 

[SNiC Jet]

Trump and Moore reflect today's America and its' values.

Yes indeed, that is why we are winning and the DNC is collapsing....MAGA!

 

[Bobby V]

Yes, that is why we are winning....MAGA!

More important. Is Bama going to make the top 4 today..