Roy Moore

[Stainless]

Wonder who’s behind this attempted infiltration? :hmm

 

[SBMech]

Just like a jury you should listen to the testimony of the alleged victim and suspect and evaluate their credibility. In this case multiple women have come forward with very specific allegations which were shared with family and friends 30 years ago and have the ring of truth. Moore has also given an interview on Hannity with a bunch of mealy mouthed non denials. Watch both and decide which has the ring of truth. By contrast 500bc doesn't know my name, has never met me, doesn't know where I live or what I do for a
living. He is simply a disgusting troll and his "allegations" are nothing but a juvenile effort to offend from a small, stupid person.

Great post Gmac!

Memory is such a tricky thing, it can be manipulated, distorted, and plain just wrong.

Many studies have show that even a simple scenario, repeated through 20 individuals within (10 Minutes!) a short period of time is unrecognizable to the original tail.

In 1977, 60 eyewitnesses to a plane crash that killed nine people were interviewed by Flying magazine. But they had differing recollections. One of the witnesses explained that the plane “was heading right toward the ground—straight down.” Yet photographs showed that the airplane hit flat and at a low-enough angle to skid for almost one thousand feet.


https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/11/how-many-of-your-memories-are-fake/281558/

Here is an in depth story about one of the incredible people who truly have "photographic memory" and even they have their own failings.

Point is that human memory is easily corruptible and generally untrustworthy, even by eye witnesses.

Basing your entire argument using memories from events that took place 30 years ago just makes you look stupid.

 

[Stainless]

Memory is such a tricky thing, it can be manipulated, distorted, and plain just wrong.

Many studies have show that even a simple scenario, repeated through 20 individuals within (10 Minutes!) a short period of time is unrecognizable to the original tail.

In 1977, 60 eyewitnesses to a plane crash that killed nine people were interviewed by Flying magazine. But they had differing recollections. One of the witnesses explained that the plane “was heading right toward the ground—straight down.” Yet photographs showed that the airplane hit flat and at a low-enough angle to skid for almost one thousand feet.


https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/11/how-many-of-your-memories-are-fake/281558/

Here is an in depth story about one of the incredible people who truly have "photographic memory" and even they have their own failings.

Point is that human memory is easily corruptible and generally untrustworthy, even by eye witnesses.

Basing your entire argument using memories from events that took place 30 years ago just makes you look stupid.

No, defending this Pedophile makes you look stupid!
I’ve got a solution, all of them take a lie detector test including Moore.

 

[Sandlord]

No, defending this Pedophile makes you look stupid!
I’ve got a solution, all of them take a lie detector test including Moore.

I like this (but would only add Moore if by some strange reason he gets elected), and would like to add, Unseal and release the details of the 264 settlements made by the congressional ethics office.
(I wonder why we are seeing an increase in the number of people resigning and/or not seeking reelection)

 

[Stainless]

I like this (but would only add Moore if by some strange reason he gets elected), and would like to add, Unseal and release the details of the 264 settlements made by the congressional ethics office.
(I wonder why we are seeing an increase in the number of people resigning and/or not seeking reelection)

Wouldn’t you rather see Moore exposed ahead of time if he’s lying so another Republican could have a chance.
Yes, I would like that list become public info also. Seen something on the news that State of Fla has paid to settle several of these also. That said I’m sure it’s every state, county and city.

 

[Sandlord]

If they had a lie detector test at the time of filing I would say yes. But make the rules the same for everyone.

 

[Old Texan]

We have an investigation going on the Russian election nonsense while the stories are coming out on numerous congressional members and candidates having serious sexual harassment and worse charges. We are also hearing about a slush fund to pay off accusers. We get what we deserve if we allow this to continue and ignore what has already occurred.

The swamp is giving up it's muddy secrets and the people need to be able to find justice. Where is that justice going to come from when the whole of our governing system seems to be corrupted and involved in what amounts to a huge coverup. Hollywood is one thing, but we are seeing a serious problem within our government and that is the nation's business.

It's ridiculous we bicker about Roy Moore, when the issue goes far deeper. And it isn't one side or the other, it's the governing system as a whole from what we're hearing.

If AL voters don't do the right thing, the nation inherits another sick fuck is what it looks like. Then again, Moore has never been proven to done wrong and charges weren't filed back what things allegedly happened, so who's to say on this issue.

The swamp is certainly filthier than imagined and it ain't getting solved, just drained to release the toxin.....

 

[Stainless]

Apparently Raul Grijalva is accused of paying off an aide to settle a harassment claim.
He is a US House Rep locally here who pretty much runs unopposed every election in his district. It would make me very happy to see him drug through an ethics investigation.

 

[Old Texan]

Apparently Raul Grijalva is accused of paying off an aide to settle a harassment claim.
He is a US House Rep locally here who pretty much runs unopposed every election in his district. It would make me very happy to see him drug through an ethics investigation.

It would be the right thing to do......The general public is fed up with it and more so as the tales emerge of how widespread all this goes. But who is going to initiate an unbiased serious investigation much less get charges filed???????? Everybody in government seems to have skeletons locked up or careers that can be ruined. Whistleblowers are few and far between because they get ruined.

Our county had a long time District Judge get removed over sexual harassment charges from multiple female courthouse workers over the years. The DA got to a point, it could no longer be ignored and the Judge got removed and his hands slapped. Basically forced retirement. And the DA is a female by the way. Political hot potatoes are killing our ability to deal with these sick fucks.

 

[530RL]

I have never thought it a good idea to have doctors decide discipline for doctors, lawyers decide ethics for lawyers, police officers decide proper or improper use of force for other officers or for that matter in any industry. Having an ethics investigation of a congressman by fellow congressman seems like the same thing. It is an inherent conflict.

Every single Representative is term limited to two years. The only way they get a new term is if we the people give them one. Same thing for Senators as they are limited to six years, unless we the people give them another term.

At the end of the day, the people of Alabama will decide what really matters to them and whether or not he gets a term or not. Same thing with Grijalva, the people in his district will decide.

We the people have the power to "drain the swamp", we the people just don't agree on what the swamp really is or these people would not be repeatedly elected and/or re-elected.

 

[spectras only]

You guys are lucky with two term limit for the presidency. In Canada, however, there is no limit to the length of time the Prime Minister can stay in office. William Lyon Mackenzie King currently holds the record for the longest serving Prime Minister, at more than 21 years. Macdonald, Trudeau, and Laurier all served more than 15 years each. I hope our present idiot in the house wont make it as long as his father did.

 

[allblowdup]

The funny thing from up here is we see all the Democrap things happening and can see the what Trump has done so far for the economy. The Uranium 1 scandal is crazy as in why haven't people gone to jail yet. It is fairly transparent to see the democraps bring out some fake news to try and switch the focus. With Moore they tried the sex assault thing but I think they are not so sure if that is going to work. So now they have bought another guy to run to try and split the Republican vote. We see all the friggen crazy illegal, back handed things the democraps have done with Bernie, Trump, Moore, and pretty much anyone who gets in there way. Why the heck are none of these people prosecuted?

 

[Grandpa mac]

Probably because Breitbart has been lying to you about all of these "crimes". How else can you explain no charges whe the Republicans own the DOJ and all three branches of government.

 

[spectra3279]

Just like a jury you should listen to the testimony of the alleged victim and suspect and evaluate their credibility. In this case multiple women have come forward with very specific allegations which were shared with family and friends 30 years ago and have the ring of truth. Moore has also given an interview on Hannity with a bunch of mealy mouthed non denials. Watch both and decide which has the ring of truth. By contrast 500bc doesn't know my name, has never met me, doesn't know where I live or what I do for a
living. He is simply a disgusting troll and his "allegations" are nothing but a juvenile effort to offend from a small, stupid person.

He sounds pretty convincing to me. So you must be guilty according to you and stainmore

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[500bbc]

I have never thought it a good idea to have doctors decide discipline for doctors, lawyers decide ethics for lawyers, police officers decide proper or improper use of force for other officers or for that matter in any industry. Having an ethics investigation of a congressman by fellow congressman seems like the same thing. It is an inherent conflict.

Every single Representative is term limited to two years. The only way they get a new term is if we the people give them one. Same thing for Senators as they are limited to six years, unless we the people give them another term.

At the end of the day, the people of Alabama will decide what really matters to them and whether or not he gets a term or not. Same thing with Grijalva, the people in his district will decide.

We the people have the power to "drain the swamp", we the people just don't agree on what the swamp really is or these people would not be repeatedly elected and/or re-elected.

Hence MAGA...

 

[500bbc]

Probably because Breitbart has been lying to you about all of these "crimes". How else can you explain no charges whe the Republicans own the DOJ and all three branches of government.

You've managed to stay out of jail after molesting countless young boys so what are you getting at?

 

[Grandpa mac]

Say what you will about MSM and a Hollywood, but when credible evidence of misconduct is presented they are cleaning house. Likewise a loud group of Dems including me are calling for Frankenstein and Conyers to step down. It's the so called moral majority that continues to put assholes like Moore and Trump in office after dozens of credible allegations. Matt Lauer out at Today show after a single credible allegation. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/n...l-misconduct-allegation/ar-BBFUkZa?li=BBnb7Kz

 

[boatdoc55]

You've managed to stay out of jail after molesting countless young boys so what are you getting at?

It's up to "countless" now? String him up!!!!

 

[500bbc]

Say what you will about MSM and a Hollywood, but when credible evidence of misconduct is presented they are cleaning house. Likewise a loud group of Dems including me are calling for Frankenstein and Conyers to step down. It's the so called moral majority that continues to put assholes like Moore and Trump in office after dozens of credible allegations. Matt Lauer out at Today show after a single credible allegation. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/n...l-misconduct-allegation/ar-BBFUkZa?li=BBnb7Kz

I've seen your Russian dossier, now we all know how grads developed his taste for piss. Don't you feel a little bit guilty about abusing him when he was a young innocent boy?

My God man look what you did to his psyche!

 

[500bbc]

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[500bbc]

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[500bbc]

WTF, triple post

 

[boatdoc55]

WTF, triple post

Ya, but it was a good one!!!

 

[Old Texan]

Say what you will about MSM and a Hollywood, but when credible evidence of misconduct is presented they are cleaning house. Likewise a loud group of Dems including me are calling for Frankenstein and Conyers to step down. It's the so called moral majority that continues to put assholes like Moore and Trump in office after dozens of credible allegations. Matt Lauer out at Today show after a single credible allegation. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/n...l-misconduct-allegation/ar-BBFUkZa?li=BBnb7Kz

Here you go making an assumption and going strictly by what is in an article. As mentioned in RJ's thread, do not take news at face value.

My point being that it was not the single allegation that got Laur, it was his body of work over time that caught up to his superiors that had ignored things for over 20 years. That is the story, not Lauer getting shitcanned. As my earlier post stated, the management and superiors are as guilty and more for allowing these issues to live and grow. What we are seeing is a time of reckoning. The curtain has been pulled back and can never be closed.

I used Joe Paterno as an example. Joe was Penn State. Bigger than the sports program and rivaling the school itself. His negligence is not taking action when a felonious pedophile was operating in the open. It ruined Joe and tarnished PSU. That incident has this week effected a former PSU coach who was to be the new HC at Tennessee. His reputation of him being on staff with a pediophile and not going all in to stop the perv, travels with him and he has limited opportunities in his choice of schools that will hire him.

This is the news, 0 tolerance for being aware of misconduct and not addressing it to the point action is taken. Lauer is the headline, but the real story is superiors are being called to task to end this shit or face their own charges.

 

[pronstar]

Yes because Hollywood shunned Roman Polanski by giving him a standing ovation during Meryl Streep's speech at the Oscars.

Partisanship is lame when one turns a blind eye toward what your guys does


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[was thatguy]

Probably because Breitbart has been lying to you about all of these "crimes". How else can you explain no charges whe the Republicans own the DOJ and all three branches of government.

Lol.

 

[Grandpa mac]

Yes because Hollywood shunned Roman Polanski by giving him a standing ovation during Meryl Streep's speech at the Oscars.

Partisanship is lame when one turns a blind eye toward what your guys does


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Agreed. And I think Polanski should have gone to jail. That's consistent with my feelings about Moore. How about you? You think Polanski goes to jail while Moore gets a pass?

 

[500bbc]

Agreed. And I think Polanski should have gone to jail. That's consistent with my feelings about Moore. How about you? You think Polanski goes to jail while Moore gets a pass?

You fucking imbecile!

Polanski was convicted of drugging a 13 year old and ASS RAPING her.

What the fuck is wrong with you filthy pedophiles?

 

[pronstar]

Agreed. And I think Polanski should have gone to jail. That's consistent with my feelings about Moore. How about you? You think Polanski goes to jail while Moore gets a pass?

I think allegations need to be investigated in a non-partisan way.

I think things work both ways:
If there's smoke there may be fire.
If it stinks then something fishy may be afoot.

I think Hollywood stars who stood up for a convicted rapist should be shunned.

I think it's sweetly ironic that newscasters who stood up for Franken's self-admitted (and photographed) acts as "comedy" are now themselves coming under fire...that newscasters who stood on their moral high-horses for grilling O'Reilly are getting canned when the same damned allegations have come full circle.

I think this issue crosses partisan politics.

I think it's ludicrous to insinuate Democrats "are doing something about it" while Republicans are turning a blind eye.

I think it's insane that Gloria Allred is being less-than-transparent about a damned yearbook.

I think trump said Pussy but a bazillion other critical imbeciles have done the same or worse.



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[500bbc]

I think allegations need to be investigated in a non-partisan way.

I think things work both ways:
If there's smoke there may be fire.
If it stinks then something fishy may be afoot.

I think Hollywood stars who stood up for a convicted rapist should be shunned.

I think it's sweetly ironic that newscasters who stood up for Franken's self-admitted (and photographed) acts as "comedy" are now themselves coming under fire...that newscasters who stood on their moral high-horses for grilling O'Reilly are getting canned when the same damned allegations have come full circle.

I think this issue crosses partisan politics.

I think it's ludicrous to insinuate Democrats "are doing something about it" while Republicans are turning a blind eye.

I think it's insane that Gloria Allred is being less-than-transparent about a damned yearbook.

I think trump said Pussy but a bazillion other critical imbeciles have done the same or worse.



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RACIST!!!!

 

[SNiC Jet]

You fucking imbecile!

Polanski was convicted of drugging a 13 year old and ASS RAPING her.

Understatement!

 

[Racey]

Has anyone heard from Gloria Allred since Moore went public 2 weeks ago calling the yearbook a fake and wanting it turned over for independent forensic examination?

 

[500bbc]

Has anyone heard from Gloria Allred since Moore went public 2 weeks ago calling the yearbook a fake and wanting it turned over for independent forensic examination?

 

[500bbc]

Understatement!

He ass rapes little boys so it's fine with him.

I read it in the Russian Dossier, you should see what else Boris and Natasha have on him.

 

[pronstar]

Has anyone heard from Gloria Allred since Moore went public 2 weeks ago calling the yearbook a fake and wanting it turned over for independent forensic examination?

She's now demanding that Moore testify before she hands over the yearbook as evidence.

She of all people knows that this is not how judicial evidence works. She's grandstanding, knowing that it will lead to nowhere, but could win points in the court of public opinion.




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[Old Texan]

I think allegations need to be investigated in a non-partisan way.

I think things work both ways:
If there's smoke there may be fire.
If it stinks then something fishy may be afoot.

I think Hollywood stars who stood up for a convicted rapist should be shunned.

I think it's sweetly ironic that newscasters who stood up for Franken's self-admitted (and photographed) acts as "comedy" are now themselves coming under fire...that newscasters who stood on their moral high-horses for grilling O'Reilly are getting canned when the same damned allegations have come full circle.

I think this issue crosses partisan politics.

I think it's ludicrous to insinuate Democrats "are doing something about it" while Republicans are turning a blind eye.

I think it's insane that Gloria Allred is being less-than-transparent about a damned yearbook.

I think trump said Pussy but a bazillion other critical imbeciles have done the same or worse.



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Hollywood and those above the rest of us are falling back into reality.....Look out below is the word of the day as the underlings scatter like rats.

 

[pronstar]

Selective outrage.

What Travolta was doing was known to anyone remotely associated with Hollywood, for well over a decade.

Corey Feldman revealed what was happening and was shunned by Hollywood, basically told to keep his mouth shut on national TV.

Robert Deneiro was just as complicit, even more so IMHO, than Joe Pa in facilitate Harvey Weinstein's behavior, and nary a peep.

Not to mention what the Clinton machine did to women who made allegations against Bill.

And while I think the leader of the free world should be able to get BJ's from fuglies, lying under oath is the issue I had at the time with Bill.


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[was thatguy]

Selective outrage.

What Travolta was doing was known to anyone remotely associated with Hollywood, for well over a decade.

Corey Feldman revealed what was happening and was shunned by Hollywood, basically told to keep his mouth shut on national TV.

Robert Deneiro was just as complicit, even more so IMHO, than Joe Pa in facilitate Harvey Weinstein's behavior, and Mary a peep.

Not to mention what the Clinton machine did to women who made allegations against Bill.

And while I think the leader of the free world should be able to get BJ's from fuglies, lying under oath is the issue I had at the time with Bill.


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Feldman was more than just shunned.
He's been ridiculed, threatened, warned, and ostracized.

He's pretty goofy himself, with his whole "Corey's Angels" dealio.

 

[Racey]

She's now demanding that Moore testify before she hands over the yearbook as evidence.

She of all people knows that this is not how judicial evidence works. She's grandstanding, knowing that it will lead to nowhere, but could win points in the court of public opinion.




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For some reason i don't think Gloria Allred anything is gonna register high in the Alabama court of public opinion.....

 

[squeezer]

For some reason i don't think Gloria Allred anything is gonna register high in the Alabama court of public opinion.....

The reality is this:

Moore IS going to win that election for one reason and one reason alone. There are more voters in Alabama who would rather be represented by a pedaphile than a Democrat.

Guilty of the allegations or not, provable by any reasonable standard or not. A sexual predator who tried to fuck 14 year olds when he was 30 is less offensive than a Democrat who prosecuted KKK members.

And that right there folks is what is destroying this country.

 

[was thatguy]

The reality is this:

Moore isn’t going to win that election for one reason and one reason alone. There are more voters in Alabama who would rather be represented by a pedaphile than a Democrat.

Guilty of the allegations or not, provable by any reasonable standard or not. A sexual predator who tried to fuck 14 year olds when he was 30 is less offensive than a Democrat who prosecuted KKK members.

And that right there folks is what is destroying this country.

Wasn't the KKK a product of the Democratic Party?

 

[squeezer]

Wasn't the KKK a product of the Democratic Party?

Pre 1948 Dixiecrats... Sure.

Modern Democrats not so much.

But even as ill informed as you choose to be you knew that...

 

[SNiC Jet]

The reality is this:

Moore IS going to win that election for one reason and one reason alone. There are more voters in Alabama who would rather be represented by a pedaphile than a Democrat.

Guilty of the allegations or not, provable by any reasonable standard or not. A sexual predator who tried to fuck 14 year olds when he was 30 is less offensive than a Democrat who prosecuted KKK members.

And that right there folks is what is destroying this country.

No.... after reading your post.....the reality is: You are...... a fuckin idiot who hasn't any clue as to what you speak!

Moore will win simply because Alabamians are not going to allow the likes of you, the DNC nor the Rhinos to steal our election with your fabricated schemes. Obviously, the most upsetting part for you is to learn Alabamaians are not the ignorant Red Necks you perceive us to be!

 

[MSum661]

Read who's been destroying California
Pelosi's daughter: "We have rapists here in this(CA Capitol) building."
http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2017...tories-of-broken-harassment-reporting-system/

 

[Racey]

The reality is this:

Moore IS going to win that election for one reason and one reason alone. There are more voters in Alabama who would rather be represented by a pedaphile than a Democrat.

Guilty of the allegations or not, provable by any reasonable standard or not. A sexual predator who tried to fuck 14 year olds when he was 30 is less offensive than a Democrat who prosecuted KKK members.

And that right there folks is what is destroying this country.

Or the simpler explanation, maybe people just aren't buying the allegations.....

 

[SNiC Jet]

Or the simpler explanation, maybe people just aren't buying the allegations.....

 

[spectra3279]

The reality is this:

Moore IS going to win that election for one reason and one reason alone. There are more voters in Alabama who would rather be represented by a pedaphile than a Democrat.

Guilty of the allegations or not, provable by any reasonable standard or not. A sexual predator who tried to fuck 14 year olds when he was 30 is less offensive than a Democrat who prosecuted KKK members.

And that right there folks is what is destroying this country.

Why would a democrat prosecute a kkk member? The kkk was founded by democrats and are still practising democrats.

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[500bbc]

The reality is this:

Moore IS going to win that election for one reason and one reason alone. There are more voters in Alabama who would rather be represented by a pedaphile than a Democrat.

Guilty of the allegations or not, provable by any reasonable standard or not. A sexual predator who tried to fuck 14 year olds when he was 30 is less offensive than a Democrat who prosecuted KKK members.

And that right there folks is what is destroying this country.

You seem to think there's a difference...

 

[500bbc]

No.... after reading your post.....the reality is: You are...... a fuckin idiot who hasn't any clue as to what you speak!

Moore will win simply because Alabamians are not going to allow the likes of you, the DNC nor the Rhinos to steal our election with your fabricated schemes. Obviously, the most upsetting part for you is to learn Alabamaians are not the ignorant Red Necks you perceive us to be!

You have to understand you're trying to communicate with a guy that thinks sucking another man's dick is perfectly normal behavior.

 

[was thatguy]

Pre 1948 Dixiecrats... Sure.

Modern Democrats not so much.

But even as ill informed as you choose to be you knew that...

Who I find to be "Ill informed" is a river jumper in Portland proclaiming knowledge of voter preference in Alabama.

 

[Stainless]

The reality is this:

Moore IS going to win that election for one reason and one reason alone. There are more voters in Alabama who would rather be represented by a pedaphile than a Democrat.

Guilty of the allegations or not, provable by any reasonable standard or not. A sexual predator who tried to fuck 14 year olds when he was 30 is less offensive than a Democrat who prosecuted KKK members.

And that right there folks is what is destroying this country.

Layed it out perfectly right here in this post, I agree!