Route 91 shooting in las Vegas

[Flying_Lavey]

Was There A Second Shooter In Vegas?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-03/was-there-second-shooter-vegas

Debunked. No broken window in that area and those windows don't open.

 

[Joker]

My GF just sent me a video of her friend and her boyfriend taking cover in the Bud trailer. Absolutely unbelievable...

View attachment 590898

https://www.facebook.com/veritas3cth/videos/10214056591439965/

Wow!

 

[Sleek-Jet]

I have a question. Why is it that the day after 9/11 and the day after every incident since we knew the names home address blood types names of children and what they had for breakfast? Vegas is almost 36 hours old and we have a name a gun count a wacked out brother and a criminal father. This is all the US gov't has dug up so far?

Probably because it is still an active investigation and very early at that. Which means the police are probably looking for more people that could have been involved but don't want to tip their hand.

Unfortunately we'll just have to be patient.

 

[Tank]

Sitting here reading up on these events and this song comes on the Pandora. Thought it was pretty fitting.

[video=youtube;hW93CV6m-JU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW93CV6m-JU[/video]

 

[rivrrts429]

Sheriff stating last night at press conference "was this person radicalized unbeknownst to us?"

Not sure what kind of radicalized he means, political or religious, but why say something like that unless they have uncovered some evidence?

Looks like they're beginning to release body camera footage as well. The shooters girlfriend was met by authorities last night as she landed at LAX.

 

[McRib]

Probably because it is still an active investigation and very early at that. Which means the police are probably looking for more people that could have been involved but don't want to tip their hand.

Unfortunately we'll just have to be patient.

Active investigation? Terrorists brought down 2 buildings and we knew everything about them by the end of the day.

 

[RitcheyRch]

Captain obvious but guessing the shooter met her at the casino she worked at since he liked to gamble.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/0...way-while-planned-attack-her-sisters-say.html

“She was sent away. She was away so that she will not be there to interfere with what he’s planning,” one of Danley's sisters said.
One of the unidentified women said Danley didn't even know she was headed overseas until Paddock bought a ticket.

"She didn’t even know that she was going to the Philippines, until Steve said 'Marilou, I found you a cheap ticket to the Philippines,'" she said.

Days before the shooting, Paddock transferred $100,000 to the Philippines, a U.S. official told the Associated Press. That official was briefed by law enforcement but not authorized to speak publicly because of the continuing investigation.

Investigators were still trying to trace the money and also looking into a least a dozen financial reports over the past several weeks that indicated Paddock gambled more than $10,000 per day, the official said.

The Reno Gazette-Journal reported Danley has worked as a high-limit hostess at the Atlantis Casino Resort and Spa in Reno, Nev. The resort told the paper that Danley left her job years ago and it had no information on the gunman or his girlfriend.

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

Very true, Dave. And it will get worse before it gets better, if ever.
I pretty much gave up hope of any change after Sandy Hook- if a bunch of dead six-year olds don't do it, nothing will.
And now they're rolling back regs against silencers. Imagine if this guy had them on his weapons.

Shueman has a good point about becoming numb to it.

1,516 mass shootings in the last 1,735 days.

Condolences to friends and families of the victims.

The American media is the problem.

 

[TPC]

Active investigation? Terrorists brought down 2 buildings and we knew everything about them by the end of the day.

Maybe because that's it.
That is all their is. We know everything about this shitbird.
A family of creepy fuckballs and one went over the edge and pulled down as many people with him as he could.
Every member of the family has a sketchy past and there you have it.

 

[TPC]

The amount of Ak's and SK's out there is staggering.
100's of millions.
No law will stop the flow of them.

Mini cottage factories are still churning them out all over the middle east. Simple as anything to make. The ammo too.
The bad guys will always have access to them no matter what laws get passed.

I'm at the Avi and yesterday their was a metal fabricator company out at their concert venue doing measurements for what is rumored to be a ballistics wall on the hotel side seating areas.
(Read that: rumored).

We're going to be like Israel and everything is taken into consideration concerning safety.

 

[Old Texan]

Am I the only one wondering why, when he was sitting there with an arsenal...he made a special trip to harbor freight to pick up one of the shorty novelty hammers to break the windows? A bullet or 2 would have done the job just fine...no?

The glass is shatterproof and it would take a lot of effort to shoot it out. A hammer is far more effective......All my opinion based on what I've seen of bullets hitting similar type glass like car windows.....

 

[4Waters]

Sheriff confirmed the pics of the guns, room door, shooter dead on the floor etc....... are legit.

 

[mbrown2]

Active investigation? Terrorists brought down 2 buildings and we knew everything about them by the end of the day.

Likely because they were person's of interest in the past and their names were on those flight logs and such we had a lot of more intel on someone who was on the feds watchlist....does not sound like this guy was on the feds radar.

Even given them being watched before they almost accomplished everything they wanted.

 

[PrimeCut]

Thought I would share this, this is my friend's son that passed, Brennan Stewart
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10202610726986387&id=1743553760

 

[RiverDave]

Thought I would share this, this my friend's son that passed, Brennan Stewart
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10202610726986387&id=1743553760

Man, if you don't tear up watching that you aren't human.. RIP Brennan.

RD

 

[PrimeCut]

Fox just posted a great tribute for our friend
Las Vegas shooting victim's cover of Cole Swindell's 'You Should Be Here' goes viral - Fox News
https://apple.news/A8o9PgCA6TZyA7nSr4gm6LA

 

[Dettom]

I haven't posted on here for awhile, so please forgive me for being late to the discussion. First, an associate lost his daughter in the shooting. I won't post her name here out of respect for the family and friends, and I only met her once anyway. I don't have words to adequately describe the loss of so many innocent people and I can't figure out what made this creature tick. He was simply a monster in human form.
The talking heads, pundits, politicians can pile on all they want. It doesn't begin to describe the wrenching, bitter loss. All the cackle is just white noise to me. To those on the boards who have friends and family who may have been killed or injured, my heart goes out to you. I can only pray that God will do something to ease your pain
In the end, this was a well thought out plan that took days to engineer. I don't what type of LE response would have mitigated things. You simply can't plan ahead for every single event and respond in a manner that's effective without giving up something else along thev way. I don't know where we go from here. Again, I just don't have words.

 

[RiverDave]

I haven't posted on here for awhile, so please forgive me for being late to the discussion. First, an associate lost his daughter in the shooting. I won't post her name here out of respect for the family and friends, and I only met her once anyway. I don't have words to adequately describe the loss of so many innocent people and I can't figure out what made this creature tick. He was simply a monster in human form.
The talking heads, pundits, politicians can pile on all they want. It doesn't begin to describe the wrenching, bitter loss. All the cackle is just white noise to me. To those on the boards who have friends and family who may have been killed or injured, my heart goes out to you. I can only pray that God will do something to ease your pain
In the end, this was a well thought out plan that took days to engineer. I don't what type of LE response would have mitigated things. You simply can't plan ahead for every single event and respond in a manner that's effective without giving up something else along thev way. I don't know where we go from here. Again, I just don't have words.

Well said..

RD

 

[MSum661]

Who is the security guard?! When will we hear more about him? If what we've heard is true HE IS A HERO!

Here's the Man.....

Jesus Campos.
Unarmed Mandalay Bay Security Guard.
Approached Paddock's room on the 32rd floor.
Was hit in the leg through the hotel room door by Paddock. (Saw Campos coming from rigged cameras in the hallway and on the peephole of the door)
Radioed casino dispatch and told them his location and Paddock's.

?We received information via their dispatch center that helped us locate where this individual was sequestered, Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo.
Police officers subsequently approached the room and were met with 200 rounds from Paddock, Police fell back until SWAT arrived.

The rest of the Story...https://www.thedailybeast.com/unarm...mpos-took-on-las-vegas-killer-stephen-paddock

 

[MSum661]

And how about His 1st Name. Jesus.
I call that Divine Intervention. :thumbsup

It ain't no coincidence.

 

[Meaney77]

Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo- hats off to this guy as well. I cant imagine what this guy is going through and dont think he has had 1 minute to himself to wrap is head around all of this. He is on every news channel answering questions, he looks like he hasn't slept since it has happened.

 

[PrimeCut]

Cole Swindell gave a nice post about my friend
https://www.facebook.com/coleswindellmusic/posts/10155228827922572

 

[Old Texan]

Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo- hats off to this guy as well. I cant imagine what this guy is going through and dont think he has had 1 minute to himself to wrap is head around all of this. He is on every news channel answering questions, he looks like he hasn't slept since it has happened.

I think the Sheriff has done a remarkable job under the circumstances. My only issue with his statements, is speculating the perp had help due to the amount of munitions involved. He also has said he felt the perp intended to escape. He damned sure canceled those plans at the first sign of LE closing in so I'm not following that theory.

Just my personal opinion, but at this point I'm not seeing any firm indication that others were involved. I've read as many news versions as I can find and it's repetitive from all sources.

The GF is still a person of interest and at this point they are taking her at her word, so they say. But she has a lot of flags in her past as far as travel and where she's been. So that leaves an opening for her at least having some idea the guy was up to no good. But she was out of country during the event and couldn't have been a direct participant.

The other open item is the young girl who was interviewed about the hispanic lady who LE hauled off for claiming prior to the event, all would soon die......Nothing has been mentioned about that nor have LE indicated they found the woman they let go. The young girl left prior to the event and the lady is not identified further. Early on there were claims the lady was actually the GF but that doesn't appear possible.

This whole deal is set up for eternal speculation on motive and other players.

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

On a side note, why to they call this event "Route 91 Harvest Festival"? A few years ago when I first heard about I was thinking it was in Corona or something.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

I think the Sheriff has done a remarkable job under the circumstances. My only issue with his statements, is speculating the perp had help due to the amount of munitions involved. He also has said he felt the perp intended to escape. He damned sure canceled those plans at the first sign of LE closing in so I'm not following that theory.

I thought that the moment they mentioned they found hand guns in the room. Why would you bring weapons for close quarters when you are planning on doing all you damage from a long range? Even non-gun people know effective range on a pistol is only a couple dozen yards at best for a non highly trained shooter.

 

[HgH Vltg]

Just saw the live leak video of a Guy going around checking pulses. The Girl my Sister text me a picture of is dead nobody by her side. Cant imagine how her friends felt to leave her to save themselves. Rough to watch.


The First Responders and Hospital workers I can't imagine what they have seen. I know they are doing a great job. Numbers are not climbing like I expected. Still 31 listed critical.

The first person in that video he checked on was a buddy of mine. I asked someone to send me that video, but it was a little tougher to swallow then I was expecting.

 

[PrimeCut]

The first person in that video he checked on was a buddy of mine. I asked someone to send me that video, but it was a little tougher to swallow then I was expecting.

I watched it too, kind of wish I didn't, I saw my friend son in it, I thought I was OK seeing, but now I just can't get it out of my head. I haven't told my friends about the video, and I won't either

 

[HgH Vltg]

I watched it too, kind of wish I didn't, I saw my friend son in it, I thought I was OK seeing, but now I just can't get it out of my head. I haven't told my friends about the video, and I won't either

I will not be sharing with anyone either. It's real life, and you can't be afraid of real life, but jesus it's tough watching an up close image of a friend or family member flash across the screen, with no life left in their body....

 

[Cole Trickle]

I think the Sheriff has done a remarkable job under the circumstances. My only issue with his statements, is speculating the perp had help due to the amount of munitions involved. He also has said he felt the perp intended to escape. He damned sure canceled those plans at the first sign of LE closing in so I'm not following that theory.

Just my personal opinion, but at this point I'm not seeing any firm indication that others were involved. I've read as many news versions as I can find and it's repetitive from all sources.

The GF is still a person of interest and at this point they are taking her at her word, so they say. But she has a lot of flags in her past as far as travel and where she's been. So that leaves an opening for her at least having some idea the guy was up to no good. But she was out of country during the event and couldn't have been a direct participant.

The other open item is the young girl who was interviewed about the hispanic lady who LE hauled off for claiming prior to the event, all would soon die......Nothing has been mentioned about that nor have LE indicated they found the woman they let go. The young girl left prior to the event and the lady is not identified further. Early on there were claims the lady was actually the GF but that doesn't appear possible.

This whole deal is set up for eternal speculation on motive and other players.

Perhaps they found cash in his car or he had a hotel reservation set up or other plans if he got away? (I imagine they are not sharing much of what they know at this point)

Hispanic lady was crazy and drunk.

Young girl he was with is probably a high end hooker.

just speculating of course

 

[wsuwrhr]

He damned sure canceled those plans at the first sign of LE closing in so I'm not following that theory.

Cancelled his plans, Noted.

 

[RiverDave]

Here's the Man.....

Jesus Campos.
Unarmed Mandalay Bay Security Guard.
Approached Paddock's room on the 32rd floor.
Was hit in the leg through the hotel room door by Paddock. (Saw Campos coming from rigged cameras in the hallway and on the peephole of the door)
Radioed casino dispatch and told them his location and Paddock's.

?We received information via their dispatch center that helped us locate where this individual was sequestered, Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo.
Police officers subsequently approached the room and were met with 200 rounds from Paddock, Police fell back until SWAT arrived.

The rest of the Story...https://www.thedailybeast.com/unarm...mpos-took-on-las-vegas-killer-stephen-paddock

I think the Sheriff has done a remarkable job under the circumstances. My only issue with his statements, is speculating the perp had help due to the amount of munitions involved. He also has said he felt the perp intended to escape. He damned sure canceled those plans at the first sign of LE closing in so I'm not following that theory.

Just my personal opinion, but at this point I'm not seeing any firm indication that others were involved. I've read as many news versions as I can find and it's repetitive from all sources.

The GF is still a person of interest and at this point they are taking her at her word, so they say. But she has a lot of flags in her past as far as travel and where she's been. So that leaves an opening for her at least having some idea the guy was up to no good. But she was out of country during the event and couldn't have been a direct participant.

The other open item is the young girl who was interviewed about the hispanic lady who LE hauled off for claiming prior to the event, all would soon die......Nothing has been mentioned about that nor have LE indicated they found the woman they let go. The young girl left prior to the event and the lady is not identified further. Early on there were claims the lady was actually the GF but that doesn't appear possible.

This whole deal is set up for eternal speculation on motive and other players.

That guy is a hero on every level.. I'm not sure why they weren't putting that up on the news from the beginning?

I thought that the moment they mentioned they found hand guns in the room. Why would you bring weapons for close quarters when you are planning on doing all you damage from a long range? Even non-gun people know effective range on a pistol is only a couple dozen yards at best for a non highly trained shooter.

So that's kinda of the thing here. The things they are saying and putting out there in the press releases don't make sense?

They say he planned to esacpe. Then they say he barricaded the stairwell and the doors to his room shut. Well which is it?
They say he had cameras.. One camera was pointed at himself during the shooting. Then they say that thing was a baby monitor and didn't record. WTF?

There's about 20 little examples of that shit that don't add up. It might be that they are just in such a hurry to release some information?

Every hotel in Vegas has cameras in the Hallways. They don't need to theorize if this guy had help or not, at least from shooting from the room standpoint. The Hotel and the cops would have known if anyone entered exited that room for his entire four days there in a matter of an hour or two.. They would have also known if someone left the room during the shooting in a matter of minutes.

RD

 

[Flying_Lavey]

That guy is a hero on every level.. I'm not sure why they weren't putting that up on the news from the beginning?




So that's kinda of the thing here. The things they are saying and putting out there in the press releases don't make sense?

They say he planned to esacpe. Then they say he barricaded the stairwell and the doors to his room shut. Well which is it?
They say he had cameras.. One camera was pointed at himself during the shooting. Then they say that thing was a baby monitor and didn't record. WTF?

There's about 20 little examples of that shit that don't add up. It might be that they are just in such a hurry to release some information?

Every hotel in Vegas has cameras in the Hallways. They don't need to theorize if this guy had help or not, at least from shooting from the room standpoint. The Hotel and the cops would have known if anyone entered exited that room for his entire four days there in a matter of an hour or two.. They would have also known if someone left the room during the shooting in a matter of minutes.

RD

Yeah, I completely agree on all points you made here. Why is the security guard not getting the credit he deserves? Is it because he's Hispanic and that doesn't quiet fit the political agenda of the media? And yes, so much of the info they have released/leaked is contradicting. I think there is a good bit more that they know that they don't want to or can't share yet.

 

[wsuwrhr]

Yeah, I completely agree on all points you made here. Why is the security guard not getting the credit he deserves? Is it because he's Hispanic and that doesn't quiet fit the political agenda of the media? And yes, so much of the info they have released/leaked is contradicting. I think there is a good bit more that they know that they don't want to or can't share yet.

I think it is because the perp fits the agenda soooo well. Old, white, rich, male, that they are literally frothing at the mouth.

 

[Waffles]

That guy is a hero on every level.. I'm not sure why they weren't putting that up on the news from the beginning?




So that's kinda of the thing here. The things they are saying and putting out there in the press releases don't make sense?

They say he planned to esacpe. Then they say he barricaded the stairwell and the doors to his room shut. Well which is it?
They say he had cameras.. One camera was pointed at himself during the shooting. Then they say that thing was a baby monitor and didn't record. WTF?

There's about 20 little examples of that shit that don't add up. It might be that they are just in such a hurry to release some information?

Every hotel in Vegas has cameras in the Hallways. They don't need to theorize if this guy had help or not, at least from shooting from the room standpoint. The Hotel and the cops would have known if anyone entered exited that room for his entire four days there in a matter of an hour or two.. They would have also known if someone left the room during the shooting in a matter of minutes.

RD

It's a cover up I tell ya...

 

[RogerThat99]

Breaking News:

IS claims again that the shooter converted 6 months ago. They even list his Islamic name.

It is important to note that, to date, IS has not ever falsly claimed responsibility for any actions.

https://pjmedia.com/homeland-securi...ting-claims-paddock-converted-six-months-ago/

 

[probablecause]

I think it is because the perp fits the agenda soooo well. Old, white, rich, male, that they are literally frothing at the mouth.

Wait until they find out that he was a registered democrat and an Antifa nut.

 

[RitcheyRch]

NRA calls for ATF review of bump stocks, new regulations after Las Vegas shooting


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...new-regulations-after-las-vegas-shooting.html

The National Rifle Association, in its first statement on the Las Vegas shooting and in a rare break from its traditional opposition to gun-related regulations, called Thursday for a federal review of so-called bump stocks and suggested new rules might be needed for the device apparently used by the shooter in Sunday’s massacre.

“The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations,” the NRA said in a written statement.

Bump stocks can be used to effectively convert semi-automatic rifles to fire so rapidly as to simulate an automatic weapon. The devices were found on guns used by Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock, who killed 59 and injured hundreds Sunday night.

The Obama administration’s ATF gave its seal of approval to selling the devices in 2010 after concluding that they did not violate federal law. On Thursday, the NRA called on the ATF to review that assessment.

“In Las Vegas, reports indicate that certain devices were used to modify the firearms involved,” the NRA said. “Despite the fact that the Obama administration approved the sale of bump fire stocks on at least two occasions, the National Rifle Association is calling on the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) to immediately review whether these devices comply with federal law.”

The NRA had remained largely silent since the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history. In its written statement Thursday, the powerful gun lobby made clear its general position that gun control is not the answer to such tragedies:

"In the aftermath of the evil and senseless attack in Las Vegas, the American people are looking for answers as to how future tragedies can be prevented. Unfortunately, the first response from some politicians has been to call for more gun control. Banning guns from law-abiding Americans based on the criminal act of a madman will do nothing to prevent future attacks.”

But the call to reconsider rules for bump stocks comes as lawmakers from both parties gear up to consider legislation on the matter.

Fox News has learned that Rep. Carlos Curbelo, R-Fla., is writing a bipartisan bill to ban bump stocks.

House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., in an interview with Hugh Hewitt, also opened the door to looking at the issue.

And White House Counselor Kellyanne Conway, speaking Thursday on “Fox & Friends,” indicated a willingness to consider restrictions.

“We always welcome a thoughtful conversation on policy and issues. The Second Amendment is a bedrock in our Constitution along with the First Amendment. These rights must be protected,” she said. “But … I know this is something that many legislators have been telling us and I read publicly that they have never even heard of the device before. And they are in Congress. So, many of them are open to a conversation.”

Bump stocks are legal and originally were intended to help people with limited hand mobility fire a semi-automatic without the individual trigger pulls required. They can fit over the rear shoulder-stock assembly on an automatic rifle and with applied pressure cause the weapon to fire continuously, increasing the rate from between 45 and 60 rounds per minute to between 400 and 800 rounds per minute, according to California Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s office.

Feinstein, a prominent advocate for gun control, already has legislation to ban bump stocks.

Retailers and manufacturers are seeing an apparent surge in interest in so-called bump stocks as Congress eyes a possible crackdown. Slide Fire, which makes bump stocks, announced on its website it is suspending new orders, with a message indicating the company’s supply is low. Another site that sells the company’s products said in a message online that the device is “out of stock” and backordered.

Even the Senate’s No. 2 Republican, John Cornyn of Texas, opened the door to new restrictions.

"If somebody can essentially convert a semi-automatic weapon by buying one of these and utilizing it and cause the kind of mayhem and mass casualties that we saw in Las Vegas, that's something of obvious concern that we ought to explore," Cornyn told reporters.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

I'm ok with that. I'm against new regulations but the bump stocks don't really seem to create much benefit besides just increasing the amount of lead that can be thrown down range and at the drastic cost of accuracy.

 

[Old Texan]

2 things over the last page or so posts.

The hotel should have videos of the time the perp checked it to the time the door was blown open. No talk of those. I think much of the false info is based on media eavesdropping and pushing LE for information. They run with what they scrape up and have no concern for accuracy.

As far as bump stocks, get rid of the damned things. Gun control advocates will get some wood and gloat. And the damned contraptions aren't good for anything but wasting ammo and being abused as they were in this event.....But the technology is easy enough for crooks to make their own and banning them will accomplish little for determined bad guys.

 

[RiverDave]

Breaking News:

IS claims again that the shooter converted 6 months ago. They even list his Islamic name.

It is important to note that, to date, IS has not ever falsly claimed responsibility for any actions.

https://pjmedia.com/homeland-securi...ting-claims-paddock-converted-six-months-ago/

It says right in the article that you posted that they have made false claims before and even cited an example.

 

[Devilman]

Taken from the article posted above:

Bump stocks are legal and originally were intended to help people with limited hand mobility fire a semi-automatic without the individual trigger pulls required. They can fit over the rear shoulder-stock assembly on an automatic rifle and with applied pressure cause the weapon to fire continuously, increasing the rate from between 45 and 60 rounds per minute to between 400 and 800 rounds per minute, according to California Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein?s office.

Is there any way that is accurate at all? That sounds a bit exaggerated but guess I should consider the source. :rolleyes Never used a bump stock, no desire to have one, don't even think I know anybody that owns one, but talk of bans/regulations/etc. always seems like it just opens the door for something else. Give 'em an inch & they'll take a mile comes to mind.

 

[WhatExit?]

One other piece of info to keep in mind - it may be significant or it may be nothing...

The Philippines is a hot-bed of Islamic terrorism (link below). There are a shit ton of Islamic terrorists over there.

That $100,000 he sent there may not have been for her "house."

https://www.google.com/search?q=isl...e.0.0j69i57.5613j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

[MSum661]

That guy is a hero on every level.. I'm not sure why they weren't putting that up on the news from the beginning?




So that's kinda of the thing here. The things they are saying and putting out there in the press releases don't make sense?

They say he planned to esacpe. Then they say he barricaded the stairwell and the doors to his room shut. Well which is it?
They say he had cameras.. One camera was pointed at himself during the shooting. Then they say that thing was a baby monitor and didn't record. WTF?

There's about 20 little examples of that shit that don't add up. It might be that they are just in such a hurry to release some information?

Every hotel in Vegas has cameras in the Hallways. They don't need to theorize if this guy had help or not, at least from shooting from the room standpoint. The Hotel and the cops would have known if anyone entered exited that room for his entire four days there in a matter of an hour or two.. They would have also known if someone left the room during the shooting in a matter of minutes.

RD

I've been thinking about the camera thing for days. I'll toss a theory out here to bounce off of.

The camera's were not recording anything on any device in the room .....but they were set up on Wi-Fi. The Wi-Fi signal and everything He had the camera zoned to could have easily been recording from another location, like another room close by. All set up and being done for some sick "verification" reasons, etc., etc.
If someone was in another room with recording devices then that same person could have also been the same person they think helped the shooter with the transfer of firearms to the 32nd floor and it could have been the same location Paddock was planning to rendezvous over to if things got too Hot.
But He never made it....and His suicide could have been the "Plan B" option for Paddock as a worst case scenario.

Also, One reason I believe why we haven't heard much more on this is the FBI investigation turned "International" 2 days ago. That changes everything.
And lets not forget the Interrogation efforts just underway, They're really good...and will take their time to break Her, JMO.

I think they found a whopper of new evidence but they have to get it perfectly right before going public.

 

[JD D05]

What do you all think the reasoning is for all the spot lights to come on?

 

[rivrrts429]

I've been thinking about the camera thing for days. I'll toss a theory out here to bounce off of.

The camera's were not recording anything on any device in the room .....but they were set up on Wi-Fi. The Wi-Fi signal and everything He had the camera zoned to could have easily been recording from another location, like another room close by. All set up and being done for some sick "verification" reasons, etc., etc.
If someone was in another room with recording devices then that same person could have also been the same person they think helped the shooter with the transfer of firearms to the 32nd floor and it could have been the same location Paddock was planning to rendezvous over to if things got too Hot.
But He never made it....and His suicide could have been the "Plan B" option for Paddock as a worst case scenario.

Also, One reason I believe why we haven't heard much more on this is the FBI investigation turned "International" 2 days ago. That changes everything.
And lets not forget the Interrogation efforts just underway, They're really good...and will take their time to break Her, JMO.

I think they found a whopper of new evidence but they have to get it perfectly right before going public.

I was thinking maybe something like that too but maybe live streaming this shit to one of those underground sicko websites where people film themselves committing suicide and shit, I dunno.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

What do you all think the reasoning is for all the spot lights to come on?

Simple. Emergency evacuations. Light up the area so people can see where they are going and not get trampled on.

I'm sure very few realized they were lighting up the kill zone.

 

[JM21]

What do you all think the reasoning is for all the spot lights to come on?

Spot lights on the crowd at the concert after the shooting started??

 

[JD D05]

Simple. Emergency evacuations. Light up the area so people can see where they are going and not get trampled on.

Is that an automated deal or someone did it manually? Makes sense though hey if people scream lights on that is all you need to know sit here on your stool.

 

[RiverDave]

I've been thinking about the camera thing for days. I'll toss a theory out here to bounce off of.

The camera's were not recording anything on any device in the room .....but they were set up on Wi-Fi. The Wi-Fi signal and everything He had the camera zoned to could have easily been recording from another location, like another room close by. All set up and being done for some sick "verification" reasons, etc., etc.
If someone was in another room with recording devices then that same person could have also been the same person they think helped the shooter with the transfer of firearms to the 32nd floor and it could have been the same location Paddock was planning to rendezvous over to if things got too Hot.
But He never made it....and His suicide could have been the "Plan B" option for Paddock as a worst case scenario.

Also, One reason I believe why we haven't heard much more on this is the FBI investigation turned "International" 2 days ago. That changes everything.
And lets not forget the Interrogation efforts just underway, They're really good...and will take their time to break Her, JMO.

I think they found a whopper of new evidence but they have to get it perfectly right before going public.

I was talking to Wes about that exact thing earlier today. The one filming him if it wasn't recording there is no point to it.. Unless he was streaming it to something or someone else. Possibly even someone else in the hotel?

What do you all think the reasoning is for all the spot lights to come on?

Trying to evacuate.. I'm sure the light guy probably wasn't thinking to drop the lights at the sound of gun shots, and turn them on after it stopped etc. They aren't trained for that shit, and after the lights came on, I'd be surprised if he even stuck around the venue. Later when the one video is shown (which is disturbing) of the guy going body to body they kill the lights and he asks for them to be turned back on.

I was thinking maybe something like that too but maybe live streaming this shit to one of those underground sicko websites where people film themselves committing suicide and shit, I dunno.

Maybe.. or another person or device. You can bet if it was one of those websites, or streaming to ISIS they'd be blowing the internet up with it already. It would prove their claim.

RD

 

[JM21]

Is that an automated deal or someone did it manually?

I would imagine the light guys have to do it but yes, anytime their is an emergency or problem they light it up. There was a big fight on the floor at a concert I went to once once and they did the same.