RDP - Winter PSA

[ford 4x429]

I will say with honesty, the “retard” word is something I have made a real effort to remove from my vocabulary even in conversation with my buddies when we are trash talking. It started with Grads, as he mentioned it’s something that can/is tough for some to hear and he explained that I believe his nephew as some sort of syndrome. Next was Steve. Like Dave, I have never met Steve, but he a bit more vocally than Grads made his opinion of the word known, and I respected that, and understood it even more. Lastly, we moved into this new house, there’s a church next door. The church has a basketball hoop that daily, rain or shine a guy plays basketball. That guy is Trever. Trever is 22, lives with his parents, and is very much behind compared to his age, but is VERY nice, always smiling and happy, and is excited to play with the dogs when they are out, tell me about his day when he volunteers at the Humane Society, or very thankful when I take a few minutes to shoot some hoops with him.

Overall, I’m an asshole, and I recognize that. I think the pussification of this country is stupid, but I realize that words to some people mean more than what they do to me.

Be kind. Be respectful. You don’t have to interject your opinion into ever conversation.

respect sr8t up.. Treat others as you would like to be treated

 

[HTTP404]

I hope I am not on any lists. I give this place an A on moderation balance.

It would be an A+ if they made me a mod. LOL

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

I was there too if it’s the night he was in the flower pots.. lol

He has come a long ways since then.. had kids a wife a life and responsibility etc..

Honestly one of the more impressive stories on rdp

Vicious13 aka BHCVic is another 1

I don't remember you being there. This was at Bre's bday party I believe. He was good that night. Yes in the planters. He was shmammered, but a happy drunk. Never really got sick if I remember, but wasn't obnoxious or passed out out. Lol....good times.

 

[RiverDave]

I don't remember you being there. This was at Bre's bday party I believe. He was good that night. Yes in the planters. He was shmammered, but a happy drunk. Never really got sick if I remember, but wasn't obnoxious or passed out out. Lol....good times.

Btw that was married to a cop and now is a cop?

I was there as well.. lol. I thought I remember this back at Billdoes but it’s so many parties and coorslight sago it all kinda meshes together

 

[Reddy Too]

Great boating content in this thread!

The seven phases of Grads

1. Denial -Forbads

2. Anger - Mads

3. Bargaining - Gads

4. Depression - Sads

5. Acceptance - Fads

6. Symptoms - Cads

7. Treatment - Vlads

 

[rivermobster]

The seven phases of Grads

1. Denial -Forbads

2. Anger - Mads

3. Bargaining - Gads

4. Depression - Sads

5. Acceptance - Fads

6. Symptoms - Cads

7. Treatment - Vlads

I don't care who you are...

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

Btw that was married to a cop and now is a cop?

I was there as well.. lol. I thought I remember this back at Billdoes but it’s so many parties and coorslight sago it all kinda meshes together

Yea...it may have been a different night then...cuz this was definitely @ Bre's in Chino Hills. Billdo may have been there, but I don't think I've met Lynch. And for sure WMC William and Mel SYA was there..I have the OG pics.
You and I have only met like once, but it was brief, maybe at another one of Bre's parties? So many parties, so long ago. Pre RDP man...old skool Hot Boat.

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

The seven phases of Grads

1. Denial -Forbads

2. Anger - Mads

3. Bargaining - Gads

4. Depression - Sads

5. Acceptance - Fads

6. Symptoms - Cads

7. Treatment - Vlads

You forgot the OG Grads and his oral fixation........ NADS.

 

[riverroyal]

@riverroyal is still a homo

Fucker. You beat me to it.

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

Fucker. You beat me to it.

You were gonna admit to being a homo?

 

[Outdrive1]

Weirdly I don’t either.. some of my friends literally have vaults of embarrassing pics that they save.. always makes me wonder why?

Future intentions or something? Lol. @Outdrive1

Someone has to keep you in check

 

[rivermobster]

You were gonna admit to being a homo?

Fucker. You beat me to it.

 

[riverroyal]

You were gonna admit to being a homo?

Lol. No, today is not the day.
FYI in JBNSoCal I checked your boat Sunday. Still looks good queer.
Wind tomorrow, cover is solid

 

[JB in so cal]

Fucker. You beat me to it.

Gotta be quicker...

 

[rivermobster]

Gotta be quicker...

Clearly!

 

[JB in so cal]

Lol. No, today is not the day.
FYI in JBNSoCal I checked your boat Sunday. Still looks good queer.
Wind tomorrow, cover is solid

going to get it this weekend if the doctor let's me move the leg more

 

[rivermobster]

So nobody is gonna ask the most Obvious question??

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

Fucker. You beat me to it.

Lol...those two dudes and their bromance over the years. The sexual tension is real.

 

[riverroyal]

He is too tall for me

 

[Jed-O]

So nobody is gonna ask the most Obvious question??

Lmao! Most of us probably already know the answer

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Btw that was married to a cop and now is a cop?

I was there as well.. lol. I thought I remember this back at Billdoes but it’s so many parties and coorslight sago it all kinda meshes together

I don't remember you being there either..... oh, but I only remember 3 people there.... Bill, Lynch, and Jack.....Daniels. I still have a REAL hard time with whiskey....

 

[RiverDave]

I don't remember you being there either..... oh, but I only remember 3 people there.... Bill, Lynch, and Jack.....Daniels. I still have a REAL hard time with whiskey....

The I musta been at a different party? Dunno? I remember you passed out in a flower bed.. and shortly before the passing out there was photography flashes.. lol.

Not my deal.. I’m like you, I don’t save pics of dudes.. why would I care. I’m just out to have fun and that’s it.
RD

 

[Flying_Lavey]

The I musta been at a different party? Dunno? I remember you passed out in a flower bed.. and shortly before the passing out there was photography flashes.. lol.

Not my deal.. I’m like you, I don’t save pics of dudes.. why would I care. I’m just out to have fun and that’s it.
RD

Well I can say that is the ONLY party I passed out in a flower planter so..... had to have been that one.

I was told I somehow got myself to my car to pass out in the passenger seat as well. I have ZERO idea how I was able to do that.

 

[Ziggy]

He is too tall for me

@HOOTER SLED- is more your size, eh.

 

[Ziggy]

The I musta been at a different party? Dunno? I remember you passed out in a flower bed.. and shortly before the passing out there was photography flashes.. lol.

Not my deal.. I’m like you, I don’t save pics of dudes.. why would I care. I’m just out to have fun and that’s it.
RD

I totally remember that photo being posted on the forum but had zero recollection of who it was.

 

[was thatguy]

 

[WYRD]

Funny how the Internet works...you can't please everybody all the time.

 

[Sleek-Jet]

Setting up for the winter season is almost complete. All that's needed is for Dave to stop smoking for a week...

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Setting up for the winter season is almost complete. All that's needed is for Dave to stop smoking for a week...

We may already be into day 3 of that week

 

[4Waters]

Setting up for the winter season is almost complete. All that's needed is for Dave to stop smoking for a week...

And the snow

 

[Nanu/Nanu]

Thanks for the heads up! I feel its unfortunate that someone has left based on what was discussed in a thread here. There was a thread started about a kid being bullied. If we let our conversations here get so heated or targeted are we any better than bullies we dont want to see our children face? I think we all know our intentions when we make a post. For myself i try not to let my posts have ill intentions. If they do i try my best to just delete it and move on. If im just trying to joke, i think throwing in a cue goes a long way. Helps the audience understand the perspective/delivery. In times of frustration and anger a little bit of grace can go a long way from all parties involved. Collectively we are all human and will fail to meet expectations, but as posted at the beginning of the thread we can apologize and move on to get the conversation back on track.

 

[River Lynchmob]

Btw that was married to a cop and now is a cop?

I was there as well.. lol. I thought I remember this back at Billdoes but it’s so many parties and coorslight sago it all kinda meshes together

It was at Bre's. I think we met at Billdos and then went to Bre's.

 

[spectra3279]

Here’s my little story.. god knows I’m not perfect and I am head strong in my beliefs so pretty resistant to change.. that would sometimes mean that I too occasionally get into the light hearted disagreements..

There is a member here named Steve (formerly nganga now skinny tire ah).

Since I was a kid if someone was of a certain special needs we would refer to that person as a retard..

I am not going to lie, when I was a kid I used it to be mean.. hell joking around with my friends it’s often said “that’s retarded” etc..

Steve mentioned it bothered him and it wasn’t the most pc thing to say in modern times.. I instantly come in and defend my positions “wasThatguy” (don’t take offense to that Tommy I actually enjoy your thought process to debates) style with “look man this was the medical term for it not that long ago” and yada yada yada..

I’m not gonna change my life for this guy.. why would they say I love offend him?? Right?


Well ya know what months went by and I couldn’t stop thinking about it.

I don’t know Steve.. I’ve never met Steve.. I know we don’t share a ton in common outside of boats.. I do enjoy his worldly adventures though and I find him fascinating as a human..

None the less he ain’t my buddy and this is my playground so technically I can do whatever the fuck I want right?

Then why is it bothering me? Why months later did I privately send him a pm saying “you know what I’ve given this a lot of thought and I’m sorry. I in no way want to hurt you or your son, and if changing my vocabulary a little puts that behind us than consider it done”

Steve didn’t ask me to do that nor was Steve expecting me to do that..

Wanna know why I did that? Because while I’m hard headed and resistant to change one thing I am not is an ASSHOLE..

I was feeling pretty good about all that then you duckers started with the skinny tire suit and now he’s gone.. Fuckin awesome.

My point is if I can do it.. believe me anyone can.

It honestly takes less effort to be nice than it does to be a dick.. give it a try.

RD

Me and nganga had our issues with the bicycle assholes also. He even thought I was gonna intentionally run him down on live oak canyon road. Took another member to point out that I said if it came to a head on with another car or take out the bicycle guy, I'm hitting the bike.

Never did it change the respect I had for him. Dude does shit and has shit I can only dream about. We never really talked about it but we do share one thing in common. We both have a child with down syndrome. He has talked more about his kid than I have. And I respect that.

 

[Your ad here]

It's sad some people just can't take a joke and have to make a problem of it then cry victim. I see that a lot here. I get it some jokes are gnarly, just let it go. When someone's out of line its obvious.
Some people are notorious for asking for help then argue with the people trying to help then get their feelings hurt. Why even ask in the first place if you're gonna argue later?
I do wonder how some people here have gotten to the level of lifestyle they live yet can be so sensitive.

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

@RiverDave As I stated in our PM exchange, I truly appreciate you reaching out. To those without "someone special" in their lives, I get it, you don't understand. If my leaving has done nothing else but raised awareness, mission accomplished. Those who cannot defend themselves, need ambassadors on their behalf. I never, in a million years would have though I would be him. (on here). Most would be surprised at how many special needs families are members here.

I'm getting old, my patience has worn thin and I get pissed off too easy on stuff like the skinny tire thread. However, all those bike fatalities involve families. Everyone of them is a Mother, Father, Son or Daughter to some devastated family. Yet, many on here, not all, made sport of it. Getting pepper sprayed, hit by mirrors or train horns are all stuff I risk, ever day of my life getting on bikes. I did a ride about a month ago. I stopped at every single memorial along the way, where people had died on bikes. I took a picture and send them to @Gelcoater. Its real, it's a thing and I accept those risks to pursue my passion. Hunting in Africa is also a dangerous activity, as is fishing the Amazon, all risks I gladly accept to live a life full and leaving it with no regrets.

As far as coming back, I don't think its in the cards. If for no other reason, to prove to LOF that "everybody doesn't come back" .

Besides, a grain of sand off any beach means nothing when displaced.

@spectra3279 Brian has intellectual and physical disabilities, he's not a downs child. No worries, just for clarity.

 

[LHC Kirby]

Years ago I was channel surfing one day and came across a Dr. Wayne Dyer program and stopped on it for minute. He stated " too many people are just looking for something to be offended about....
We don't always have to be in reaction to others, we don't have to be offended to everything, all the time. We can choose to not react, we can choose not to be offended. That stuck with me (obviously) but it took quite a while for me to get it and apply it in my life...
My life feels much better when I'm not in reaction to others "shit" ( anger, attitudes, drug or alcohol induced problems etc., etc...) my days go much better. I have much less conflict in my life and it's way more enjoyable. It also helped me significantly to stop drinking and as a result feeling better physically as my body continues to deteriorate from R.A. & psoriatic arthritis. Like life, it's a process. Driving is probably the most difficult thing for me to not react to the idiots daily on the road....
I say " just let it go dude" to myself....a lot.
I hope Dr. Dyers words can reach somebody reading this some day.

That sounds very similar to my often said
“Not my circus, not my monkey’s “

 

[was thatguy]

It's sad some people just can't take a joke and have to make a problem of it then cry victim. I see that a lot here. I get it some jokes are gnarly, just let it go. When someone's out of line its obvious.
Some people are notorious for asking for help then argue with the people trying to help then get their feelings hurt. Why even ask in the first place if you're gonna argue later?
I do wonder how some people here have gotten to the level of lifestyle they live yet can be so sensitive.

“Did you hear the one about the dude that got smeared by a tractor trailer…”
Said no comedian ever.

 

[dave29]

Years ago I joined an AR gun forum. Lurked for a while to get a feel for the members. Finally decided to ask a question hoping to get an answer. I got bombed by so many people for being "stupid" etc. Decided I didn't need to spend time with assholes and left the forum. It no longer exists. Negativity will eat you up. There are so many ways to help people without an attitude. I like RDP and come here every day. I've learned a lot and made friends. Keeping it positive not only here, but in life will make your days so much more enjoyable.

 

[J&k beer can]

this is what the offend folks need to learn..

Sticks n Stones my Break my Bones but Words will NEVER Hurt ME..

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

@RiverDave As I stated in our PM exchange, I truly appreciate you reaching out. To those without "someone special" in their lives, I get it, you don't understand. If my leaving has done nothing else but raised awareness, mission accomplished. Those who cannot defend themselves, need ambassadors on their behalf. I never, in a million years would have though I would be him. (on here). Most would be surprised at how many special needs families are members here.

I'm getting old, my patience has worn thin and I get pissed off too easy on stuff like the skinny tire thread. However, all those bike fatalities involve families. Everyone of them is a Mother, Father, Son or Daughter to some devastated family. Yet, many on here, not all, made sport of it. Getting pepper sprayed, hit by mirrors or train horns are all stuff I risk, ever day of my life getting on bikes. I did a ride about a month ago. I stopped at every single memorial along the way, where people had died on bikes. I took a picture and send them to @Gelcoater. Its real, it's a thing and I accept those risks to pursue my passion. Hunting in Africa is also a dangerous activity, as is fishing the Amazon, all risks I gladly accept to live a life full and leaving it with no regrets.

As far as coming back, I don't think its in the cards. If for no other reason, to prove to LOF that "everybody doesn't come back" .

Besides, a grain of sand off any beach means nothing when displaced.

@spectra3279 Brian has intellectual and physical disabilities, he's not a downs child. No worries, just for clarity.

Welcome back . And it is sad to see you go Steve. Hope we can connect sometime down the line.

 

[River Runnin]

I’m not trying to be a bleeding heart here, but I am trying to go out of my way to be nicer in my old age

.... Good Luck with that!! ... The older you get patience and tolerance both disappear! And that's fer sure and fer certain!

 

[was thatguy]

.... Good Luck with that!! ... The older you get Patients and tolerance both disappear! And that's fer sure and fer certain!

Agreed.
So I’ll say it. It’s “patience” …!
Although it’s true that old patients also disappear…?

 

[Canuck 1]

I'm offended

 

[Tamalewagon]

@RiverDave For sure not my proudest moment on here but I quickly realized my mistake and when someone took offense to that said comment I owned up to it and i apologized with out even thinking about it

I appreciate your comment and action. I hope my response did not appear to be too abrasive.

 

[RiverDave]

@RiverDave As I stated in our PM exchange, I truly appreciate you reaching out. To those without "someone special" in their lives, I get it, you don't understand. If my leaving has done nothing else but raised awareness, mission accomplished. Those who cannot defend themselves, need ambassadors on their behalf. I never, in a million years would have though I would be him. (on here). Most would be surprised at how many special needs families are members here.

I'm getting old, my patience has worn thin and I get pissed off too easy on stuff like the skinny tire thread. However, all those bike fatalities involve families. Everyone of them is a Mother, Father, Son or Daughter to some devastated family. Yet, many on here, not all, made sport of it. Getting pepper sprayed, hit by mirrors or train horns are all stuff I risk, ever day of my life getting on bikes. I did a ride about a month ago. I stopped at every single memorial along the way, where people had died on bikes. I took a picture and send them to @Gelcoater. Its real, it's a thing and I accept those risks to pursue my passion. Hunting in Africa is also a dangerous activity, as is fishing the Amazon, all risks I gladly accept to live a life full and leaving it with no regrets.

As far as coming back, I don't think its in the cards. If for no other reason, to prove to LOF that "everybody doesn't come back" .

Besides, a grain of sand off any beach means nothing when displaced.

@spectra3279 Brian has intellectual and physical disabilities, he's not a downs child. No worries, just for clarity.

Entirely up to you, but I speak for everyone when I say it’s a loss to our community

 

[Tamalewagon]

I think sometimes it's easy for things to get taken out of context through internet conversation. Sarcasm even often gets missed as well. Smilies or not. Some folks take things too seriously imo. I'd venture to say that most here just make wise cracks just to shit talk like most dudes chillin in the garage throwing back some coldies. All in good fun.

I get it. I'm all for teasing back in forth in good fun but admittedly, I get a little protective about the good kids and adults donating their time making sure these good kids stay good kids.

 

[2Driver]

They say the holidays keep coming earlier each year, lol a winter reprehend thread and we didnt even make it to Thanksgiving.

 

[SBMech]

Steve,

I hope you end up reading this. When I first stopped lurking on RDP you and I had many discussions about the "R" word down in the dungeon and I defended the facts about how it's a medical term bla bla ad nauseum.... In the end I finally got it.

I honestly have done my best to remove that word from my vocabulary to this day. I know it's just one part of why you are leaving RDP, I just wanted you to know our discussions changed my outlook on the way words can still affect anyone, even "it's not directed at you, why are you upset?" is not an acceptable answer to me anymore.

Please stick around. Your input and adventures are a wanted variable that makes this place special, as a whole even the smallest loss still diminishes RDP overall.

 

[clarence]

To those without "someone special" in their lives, I get it, you don't understand.

I don't mean to be argumentative (truly), but I'm old and my patience has worn thin too, so:


You might consider the possibility that you are too close to understand that no offense is intended?

NO ONE using the word has a problem with anyone special.

They may be thoughtless, but that's forgivable.


Or do you believe the phrase "That's so gay" is necessarily homophobic?

If not, is it because you don't have a gay someone in your life?

Why Is It OK To Say "That's So Gay?"

Gay is a generalized insult with no connection to sexual preference.

Why Is It OK To Say "That's So Gay?"

Name-calling on playgrounds is a common occurrence. Many kids are taught by their parents and teachers that racial and ethnic slurs are not okay. But calling someone "gay" is still fair game in some circles, and is broadly used by children — and adults — as an insult.

www.npr.org

You can believe people have a real problem with anyone special, gays, or cyclists, and let it bother you.

But why not believe people are just thoughtless instead? You'll live longer.


Gentlemen strive to give no offense, of course.

 

[dribble]

Today after I'm done surfing I am going over to help a learning disabled adult woman write a letter to her dying father. My GF literally saved her from eviction a few years back, took over her finances (to stop her from gambling) and got her Social Security disability benefits restored after she screwed up and lost them. We moved her into a nicer apartment a couple for years ago. My GF's son is learning disabled but does not receive public benefits, is a 200 plus average bowler, drives and works. That said, the 'R" doesn't offend me because it is just a word. It doesn't offend her either. When I was in school we had a large number of kids in Special-Ed. My regret is not that I was mean to them because I wasn't. I was (like many) indifferent to them. I should have been a bigger person and been more social with those kids, instead of trying to be the cool gearhead type guy. I'm trying to make up for that now.