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[Racey]

Is it possible the 300 mold was used to creat the 335?

What is the overall difference between the 300 and 335? I know the 335 has a step bottom
and the euro swim step.

No, 335 360 etc was done by some naval architect up in WA or something iirc. (during the late 90s early 2000s)

It's been a long time since then though so i could be wrong, but that's what i seem to remember

 

[FROGMAN524]

No, 335 360 etc was done by some naval architect up in WA or something iirc. (during the late 90s early 2000s)

It's been a long time since then though so i could be wrong, but that's what i seem to remember

Thane told me himself he designed the 335 bottom. The V2D that was used on 290 and Gen 2 or 3 400 was that architect you’re talking about.

 

[RiverDave]

Thane told me himself he designed the 335 bottom. The V2D that was used on 290 and Gen 2 or 3 400 was that architect you’re talking about.

The 290 V2D was done by michael peters.. they tried it on the 400 and it didn’t work, but I think what they tried was a variation of peters design. From what I have heard in the 290’s (never been in one) they work pretty good.

RD

 

[RiverDave]

We took our first run in the 335 today just to get to know it..

 

[RiverDave]

Quick vid just cruising..

 

[crzy2bealive]

Awesome!!

 

[FROGMAN524]

The 290 V2D was done by michael peters.. they tried it on the 400 and it didn’t work, but I think what they tried was a variation of peters design. From what I have heard in the 290’s (never been in one) they work pretty good.

RD

I drove Mike’s 290 at Powell with a 565, SCX and B1 4 blade and I remember it had a lot of torque lean/steer compared to my twin powered boat. It turned nice and sharp and rode well in 3-4’ chop. It’s also a great looking boat and has amazing proportions and lines but it didn’t have enough HP I thought. It could definitely handle another couple hundred HP.

 

[JFMFG]

You happy with it Dave?

 

[throttle]

Quick vid just cruising..

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Such a great feeling! Looks great Dave, well played! Reminds me of my kids when they were young, they loved my open bow. Congrats!

 

[FROGMAN524]

Quick vid just cruising..

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Not sure what props you’re running but seems a little light on speed for that RPM. Should be closer to 60 plus.

Also, water temp seems about 20 degrees higher than mine at same RPM. Maybe the t stats in those V-10s are set higher?

 

[JFMFG]

We took our first run in the 335 today just to get to know it..




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Wait just a darn minute. If you zoom in the bow are those jl speakers. Ohhh man kicker is gonna have a field day . It’s a beauty Dave.

 

[Havasu Rehab]

After seeing the boat on the trailer and the ladder on the stern, I totally get why you wanted the side door so badly.

Beautiful boat! Congrats on the maiden voyage.

 

[HubbaHubbaLife]

We took our first run in the 335 today just to get to know it..




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Beautiful boat.... great lines & graphics

 

[Havasu blue label]

Very clean boat congrats

 

[Happy Smitty]

I drove Mike’s 290 at Powell with a 565, SCX and B1 4 blade and I remember it had a lot of torque lean/steer compared to my twin powered boat. It turned nice and sharp and rode well in 3-4’ chop. It’s also a great looking boat and has amazing proportions and lines but it didn’t have enough HP I thought. It could definitely handle another couple hundred HP.

I have 750hp in my 290. I'd say that's where it needs to be. It's a lot of boat and hp on a single drive. Not a boat to hammer on or race around much. But definitely a powerful cruzer.

 

[BajaMike]

Nice boat!

 

[Runs2rch]

The 290 V2D was done by michael peters.. they tried it on the 400 and it didn’t work, but I think what they tried was a variation of peters design. From what I have heard in the 290’s (never been in one) they work pretty good.

RD

The V2D 40 bottom was corrected. Only two exist. One closed deck and one open bow. The open bow is for sale now.

The closed deck with stock 600's and NXT drives runs 90mph gps under normal conditions. People, gear, and fuel. Not light load. To give you an idea the original gen 2 40 bottom with 700's and six drives runs the same mph. The bottom works very well.

 

[Runs2rch]

Not sure what props you’re running but seems a little light on speed for that RPM. Should be closer to 60 plus.

Also, water temp seems about 20 degrees higher than mine at same RPM. Maybe the t stats in those V-10s are set higher?

Agree. We looked at this 335 before the one we sold to you.

It had 24 Bravo 1's on it with a pair of 26's left in the boat. Seemed weird that it wasn't swinging 28's or 30's.

 

[Runs2rch]

Thane told me himself he designed the 335 bottom. The V2D that was used on 290 and Gen 2 or 3 400 was that architect you’re talking about.

This is correct. Thane said he wanted a plexi windshield, but Nick had already bought a surplus of safety glass windshields for the 36. The other design was how the vent holes are placed in the bottom. Thane wanted them behind the steps not in the bottom.

 

[FROGMAN524]

This is correct. Thane said he wanted a plexi windshield, but Nick had already bought a surplus of safety glass windshields for the 36. The other design was how the vent holes are placed in the bottom. Thane wanted them behind the steps not in the bottom.

I wonder if I could convert the safety glass to plexi? or a full on DCB Aeromarine windshield like @DaveTic has from GT Marine?

 

[Hammer]

Beautiful Boat Dave. I really like the colors.

 

[RiverDave]

Wait just a darn minute. If you zoom in the bow are those jl speakers. Ohhh man kicker is gonna have a field day . It’s a beauty Dave.

I just got it.. lol. Give me a minute

 

[FROGMAN524]

Wait just a darn minute. If you zoom in the bow are those jl speakers. Ohhh man kicker is gonna have a field day . It’s a beauty Dave.

It’s for sale already. No time for new speakers!

BTW, Ron’s In Your Ear audio did my new JL system in the boat last year. We did all new M6 speakers, subs and MVi amps along with new power cable, speaker wire and connectors everywhere.

I asked why he didn’t sell Kicker and he said we don’t sell stuff you can buy at Walmart. Not sure what that means but he was pretty low on Kicker. FWIW.

 

[RiverDave]

Not sure what props you’re running but seems a little light on speed for that RPM. Should be closer to 60 plus.

Also, water temp seems about 20 degrees higher than mine at same RPM. Maybe the t stats in those V-10s are set higher?

It’s got 28 4 blades on it right now.. There is a ton of prop slip and they start to hook up around 60 mph.. I want to try some five blades or larger diameter four blades to see if that helps..

When I say a ton of prop slip I mean a ton.. to even get on plane you have to drop the tabs or it will just sit there digging a hole..

It was hot as balls yesterday so the first thing we did was put the Bimini up.. because of this we didn’t run very fast the whole day.

RD

 

[RiverDave]

It’s for sale already. No time for new speakers!

Everything is for sale.. lol.

 

[JFMFG]

It’s got 28 4 blades on it right now.. There is a ton of prop slip and they start to hook up around 60 mph.. I want to try some five blades or larger diameter four blades to see if that helps..

When I say a ton of prop slip I mean a ton.. to even get on plane you have to drop the tabs or it will just sit there digging a hole..

It was hot as balls yesterday so the first thing we did was put the Bimini up.. because of this we didn’t run very fast the whole day.

RD

Let me know if you decide on something else. I may be interested in your 28s if you sell them. I’d like an extra set for the Nordic.

 

[Runs2rch]

It’s got 28 4 blades on it right now.. There is a ton of prop slip and they start to hook up around 60 mph.. I want to try some five blades or larger diameter four blades to see if that helps..

When I say a ton of prop slip I mean a ton.. to even get on plane you have to drop the tabs or it will just sit there digging a hole..

It was hot as balls yesterday so the first thing we did was put the Bimini up.. because of this we didn’t run very fast the whole day.

RD

Short tube Maximus.

 

[RiverDave]

You happy with it Dave?

I need to get used to the v10’s and the mufflers.. lol. It sounds weird to me because I am so used to v8’s..

Short tube Maximus.

Are you saying that is what I should try? Or are ya saying that’s what it needs..

If so what pitch do ya think?

 

[Runs2rch]

I need to get used to the v10’s and the mufflers.. lol. It sounds weird to me because I am so used to v8’s..


Are you saying that is what I should try? Or are ya saying that’s what it needs..

If so what pitch do ya think?

Yeah that is what I would go with. With the 710's I would think 32's would work perfect.

 

[mbrown2]

Quick vid just cruising..

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Smooth like butter!

 

[throttle]

I need to get used to the v10’s and the mufflers.. lol. It sounds weird to me because I am so used to v8’s..

They sound and run like a train, pretty heavy and solid tho. I keep looking this thing over, such a nice boat, just needs some "Wired for Sound" help.

 

[Warlock1]

You guys… lol

Although a 30’with a side door did just pop up..

Buy that, and I'll make payments on this one...lol

 

[n2otoofast4u]

There’s a set of L/R 32 Bravos in my storage you could try if wanted.

 

[RiverDave]

It’s definitely gonna need something larger diameter or more blades.. I think it will end up in the 30 pitch range.. maybe 32

 

[schweeng]

a 38 cig with 525 runs 32's.... you need much larger..

 

[RiverDave]

a 38 cig with 525 runs 32's.... you need much larger..

Something doesn’t sound right with that?

 

[Gelcoater]

I need to get used to the v10’s and the mufflers.. lol. It sounds weird to me because I am so used to v8’s..


Are you saying that is what I should try? Or are ya saying that’s what it needs..

If so what pitch do ya think?

Back in the day I liked hearing those things being run out the first time on the hose before the pool test and real water test.
They just sounded more exotic, you knew it wasn’t a V8.
Not V-12 Lambo exotic but you knew it was something special.

The only thing that sounded more exotic was the short lived Torque V-12 deal some years before the Ilmor V-10.

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

Something doesn’t sound right with that?

Everyone needs to remember before throwing prop recommendations out that the drive ratio may not be what your expecting it to be.

Dave what’s the drive ratios? 1.5 or 1.36?

Maybe everyone assumes 1.5 but I’ve seen some 1.36 floating around.

 

[RiverDave]

Everyone needs to remember before throwing prop recommendations out that the drive ratio may not be what your expecting it to be.

Dave what’s the drive ratios? 1.5 or 1.36?

Maybe everyone assumes 1.5 but I’ve seen some 1.36 floating around.

I assumed they are 1.5’s I’ll find out tomorrow

 

[ArcadiaBrad]

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[steamin rice]

Something doesn’t sound right with that?

I run 30P 4 blade Bravos on my boat (a true 34' with 525s) and hit the rev limiters in the ocean. A 38 Top Gun with a playboy cabin probably weighs the same or a little less than mine and is probably a more efficient hull so I could see running 32's on that setup. I would guess that you are probably right looking at 30s or 32s for Havasu and a full load assuming 1.5 gear ratio

 

[RiverDave]

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Seen that

 

[FROGMAN524]

Yeah that is what I would go with. With the 710's I would think 32's would work perfect.

He can try mine if he wants. But he’d have to come to Phoenix to get them. 32 Maximus 15.25 short tube labbed.

 

[RiverDave]

I’m gonna work on some test props tomorrow and see what I can come up with..

 

[Tank]

The kids stoked to have another go fast?

Boat looks great Dave. Clean AF!

 

[schweeng]

Something doesn’t sound right with that?

I had two of them... both 525's and non labbed 32's
one ran 88 and the other 86mph

 

[schweeng]

Something doesn’t sound right with that?

Hey dave, here is an ad from OSO for a 38 Gun
2006 Cigarette 38 Top Gun powered by twin Mercury Racing HP525EFI, ITS transoms, Bravo 1XR uppers, Sportmaster lowers with Bravo 4 blade 32P props, 280 Kplanes, Seadek Flooring, Cigarette swim platform, Livorsi gauges, GPS speedometer, depth sounder, mechanical indicators, stainless steel push button switches on dash, Isotta steering wheel with tilt helm, Fusion/JL Audio stereo, full cabin with porta potty, Aluminum triple axle trailer with electric/hydraulic brakes included. Financing, and transportation available.

really efficient bottom.

 

[RiverDave]

Hey dave, here is an ad from OSO for a 38 Gun
2006 Cigarette 38 Top Gun powered by twin Mercury Racing HP525EFI, ITS transoms, Bravo 1XR uppers, Sportmaster lowers with Bravo 4 blade 32P props, 280 Kplanes, Seadek Flooring, Cigarette swim platform, Livorsi gauges, GPS speedometer, depth sounder, mechanical indicators, stainless steel push button switches on dash, Isotta steering wheel with tilt helm, Fusion/JL Audio stereo, full cabin with porta potty, Aluminum triple axle trailer with electric/hydraulic brakes included. Financing, and transportation available.

really efficient bottom.

I’m really surprised those things are that fast with that hp..

 

[RiverDave]

Our first set of test props have arrived courtesy of Hill marine!


The pitch I believe is going to be way short but right now it’s more about geometry and this is what they had on hand..

 

[RiverDave]

Going out this afternoon