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Man will all this 40k talk for a SXS, I'm really feeling good about spending 28k OTD for my 2021 Can Am X3 Max 4 Seater. LOL But it is a 64inch DS model but I still have the same amount of fun with it!

And that was the only 4 seater Maverick in So Cal back in August of 2020, trust me I called all the dealerships.

There was no haggling, I had to put a $500 deposit over the phone and get qualified for the loan over the phone (no I don't pay cash like most on RDP LOL) to secure it. It wasn't even at the dealership yet, they were un boxing it at the warehouse.

By the time I got to the dealership 1 hour later there was already someone else trying to swoop on it. But I already gave the deposit and got approved so it was mine. The dude was pissed but oh well!

Sounds like things haven't gotten any better.
 

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My 190 hp can am has plenty of power for hard pack.
More hp wouldn't matter to me.

Crashing at 65 mph your toast.. crashing at 100 your burnt toast.
I hope the industry doesnt create its own demise.
Once they get out of line on cost and hp it can be a problem
It happened to the pwc industry in 1997 ish.
 

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If your a hustler and street smart you can still buy anything you want for a deal including a RZR. As far as my friend is concerned he will get a MSO with his car as he has done time after time. We both have Montana LLC ‘s and just send them up there and receive back a tittle that you can then take and register if needed. I have never registered one of my cars and have never been messed with. But what do I know 😂😂. If you want to see a pro R actually racing come out to parker this Saturday for the parker 250. Guthrie will be racing his in the trophy unlimited class. I didn’t see any speed cars registered yet 🤷🏼‍♂️. Trust me when I say this car is the shit ! Those who drive them will tell you they are by far the best thing Polaris has dropped to date. I’m a little biased though 😎
 

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If your a hustler and street smart you can still buy anything you want for a deal including a RZR. As far as my friend is concerned he will get a MSO with his car as he has done time after time. We both have Montana LLC ‘s and just send them up there and receive back a tittle that you can then take and register if needed. I have never registered one of my cars and have never been messed with. But what do I know 😂😂. If you want to see a pro R actually racing come out to parker this Saturday for the parker 250. Guthrie will be racing his in the trophy unlimited class. I didn’t see any speed cars registered yet 🤷🏼‍♂️. Trust me when I say this car is the shit ! Those who drive them will tell you they are by far the best thing Polaris has dropped to date. I’m a little biased though 😎

@attitude After tax and license that “haggling deal” is mid-hi $40s like I said on a $42k MSRP. 😉

@702sandman did the guy get them in the crate as well or were they dealer prepped?

These are no doubt the best Polaris cars made. I like the idea of the Pro R out there but I’m more excited to see the Turbo R in a competitive class. Is anyone racing a Turbo R yet?
 

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I read on Facebook yesterday that in Arizona because of the weight of the Pro R and they Turbo R are so heavy that you have to pay car registration on them, anyone know if this is true?
 

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I read on Facebook yesterday that in Arizona because of the weight of the Pro R and they Turbo R are so heavy that you have to pay car registration on them, anyone know if this is true?
I assume the Speed car will be in the same category.
 

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I assume the Speed car will be in the same category.

The Pro R 4 seater is over 2350 to over 2400 lbs. Speed 4 seater is supposedly going to be under 2200 ish (we don’t know exactly yet) so it may slide right under that AZ weight rule.

If it’s over that weight, you do t need an OHV sticker I don’t think?
 
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I read on Facebook yesterday that in Arizona because of the weight of the Pro R and they Turbo R are so heavy that you have to pay car registration on them, anyone know if this is true?
I assume the Speed car will be in the same category.

Shouldn’t be. The revised OHV weight in AZ is 2500 lbs.

Speed is saying the 4 seat will be 2100 ish

Pro R is 2400.
 

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@attitude After tax and license that “haggling deal” is mid-hi $40s like I said on a $42k MSRP. 😉

@702sandman did the guy get them in the crate as well or were they dealer prepped?

These are no doubt the best Polaris cars made. I like the idea of the Pro R out there but I’m more excited to see the Turbo R in a competitive class. Is anyone racing a Turbo R yet?
For one you said there would be no deals on RZRs, you were wrong.

For two you said it would be 50k OTD, again you were wrong😊
 

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For one you said there would be no deals on RZRs, you were wrong.

For two you said it would be 50k OTD, again you were wrong😊

Sure bud. Go buy 2 SXSs, in crates, 1800 miles away, on MSO, for $500 less than MSRP. Then tug them home.

That is about a $50k OTD (high $40s minimum) after registration, tax and travel costs or delivery fees and you had to buy 2 of them to save a few bucks.

Great deal 🤣 and shrewed negotiations!

The only thing he saved on was some dealer fees which that savings was eaten up by transportation. You don’t have to pay for dealer setup with Speed anyway.

And Speed starts $4k cheaper which you refuse to aknowledge.
 

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Sure bud. Go buy 2 SXSs, in crates, 1800 miles away, on MSO, for $500 less than MSRP. Then tug them home.

That is about a $50k OTD (high $40s minimum) after registration, tax and travel costs or delivery fees and you had to buy 2 of them to save a few bucks.

Great deal 🤣 and shrewed negotiations!

The only thing he saved on was some dealer fees which that savings was eaten up by transportation. You don’t have to pay for setup with Speed anyway.
I’m sure sandman’s buddy who can afford to buy almost 100k worth of RZRs has no clue about money and buys them out of state for fun.

Also, why do you keep bringing up Speed in the RZR thread, I’m not one of the Speed haters so you don’t need to keep shoving it down my throat😂
 

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I’m sure sandman’s buddy who can afford to buy almost 100k worth of RZRs has no clue about money and buys them out of state for fun.

Also, why do you keep bringing up Speed in the RZR thread, I’m not one of the Speed haters so you don’t need to keep shoving it down my throat😂

You brought it up saying they were the same price, and you had to pay MSRP for them, remember? :)

Like @OldSchoolBoats said, there isn’t much “haggling” to be done on new models right now. You might save yourself off some of the fees or something. Unless you have a truck and trailer and want to drive across the country yoreself, there aren’t any deals within 500 miles. And transport is through the roof right now.

You want to “save” $1000 and drive to Stillwater OK and back, be my guest :)
 

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You brought it up saying they were the same price, and you had to pay MSRP for them, remember? :)

Like @OldSchoolBoats said, there isn’t much “haggling” to be done on new models right now. You might save yourself off some of the fees or something. Unless you have a truck and trailer and want to drive across the country yoreself, there aren’t any deals within 500 miles. And transport is through the roof right now.

You want to “save” $1000 and drive to Stillwater OK and back, be my guest :)
Wrong, you brought up Speed was cheaper and I said no one was considering the base mode Pro R so the base model Speed shouldn’t be considered. You also haven’t said if you knew anyone who has a contract under MSRP so for purposes of this argument yes you do need to pay MSRP…

I will say my buddies RZR that was bought OTD for under MSRP was bought right here in beautiful sunny California. If I had a dollar for every time I walked into a dealership and the salesman told me there was no haggling I would have enough money to pay cash for a Pro R and RG edition. But guess what I have never paid MSRP for a single thing and I’m sure there are many people on RDP who are the same.
 

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Wrong, you brought up Speed was cheaper and I said no one was considering the base mode Pro R so the base model Speed shouldn’t be considered. You also haven’t said if you knew anyone who has a contract under MSRP so for purposes of this argument yes you do need to pay MSRP…

I will say my buddies RZR that was bought OTD for under MSRP was bought right here in beautiful sunny California. If I had a dollar for every time I walked into a dealership and the salesman told me there was no haggling I would have enough money to pay cash for a Pro R and RG edition. But guess what I have never paid MSRP for a single thing and I’m sure there are many people on RDP who are the same.
Your buddy didn’t buy a Pro R, which is what the thread is about, so toss that crap out the window. Like I said, anyone can waltz into a dealer and get a deal on an standard RAM. You won’t walk out with a TRX under MSRP unless you are connected.

I’m not privy to every sales contract in existence, but I’ve answered that question... a dealer can sell a Speed Car for whatever price they want. If what you are saying is true about haggling for top of the line Polaris cars, then the same is true for Speed cars.

You claimed that Speed cars had to be sold at MSRP like Tesla’s, and that is not accurate.
 

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Your buddy didn’t buy a Pro R, which is what the thread is about, so toss that crap out the window. Like I said, anyone can waltz into a dealer and get a deal on an standard RAM. You won’t walk out with a TRX under MSRP unless you are connected.

I’m not privy to every sales contract in existence, but I’ve answered that question... a dealer can sell a Speed Car for whatever price they want. If what you are saying is true about haggling for top of the line Polaris cars, then the same is true for Speed cars.

You claimed that Speed cars had to be sold at MSRP like Tesla’s, and that is not accurate.
You are using OSBs experience on a 1000 to try and prove you can’t haggle but I can’t use a current model car?😂 And as Sandman stated there have already been multiple Pro Rs sold for under MSRP, I’m sorry but you are wrong.

Until there is a Speed sold for under MSRP how do you know dealerships are allowed to sell under MSRP? Speed and Polaris have two different business models.
 

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My 190 hp can am has plenty of power for hard pack.
More hp wouldn't matter to me.

Crashing at 65 mph your toast.. crashing at 100 your burnt toast.
I hope the industry doesnt create its own demise.
Once they get out of line on cost and hp it can be a problem
It happened to the pwc industry in 1997 ish.
My RR has 195hp. It has run 91 mph on the street stock off of the showroom floor. On the dirt in Havasu I have rarely gone past 75 mph. Too many blind hills and turns, not to mention the terrain. In the dunes I could see wanting more, but around Havasu it has more than enough power.
 

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You are using OSBs experience on a 1000 to try and prove you can’t haggle but I can’t use a current model car?😂 And as Sandman stated there have already been multiple Pro Rs sold for under MSRP, I’m sorry but you are wrong.

Until there is a Speed sold for under MSRP how do you know dealerships are allowed to sell under MSRP? Speed and Polaris have two different business models.

Speed does not tell dealers what to sell cars for is the simple answer to your question. You are basing your argument off of 2nd hand info on a car bought on MSO halfway across the country, or your friend that bought a car that is not a model we are talking about. Both are no accurate to the question of pricing, haggling, or OTD pricing.

Which car has more travel useable, a speed or a pro R?
Depends. Do you count useable travel based on 4" of tire squish and a pit under the car like Polaris does?

The Speed car does not bottom out the chassis and they do not count tire compression as travel.

Polaris' "usable travel" numbers are meaningless jargon.
 

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Speed does not tell dealers what to sell cars for is the simple answer to your question. You are basing your argument off of 2nd hand info on a car bought on MSO halfway across the country, or your friend that bought a car that is not a model we are talking about. Both are no accurate to the question of pricing, haggling, or OTD pricing.


Depends. Do you count useable travel based on 4" of tire squish and a pit under the car like Polaris does?

The Speed car does not bottom out the chassis,

Polaris' usable travel numbers are propaganda.
Lol, you keep changing your argument. First you claim there is no haggling on UTVs during COVID, I prove otherwise. Then you say well that’s not the car we are talking about, so Sandman comes in and proves you can haggle on the Pro R, then you say it’s not close enough to Cali. You do not need to spend 46k to buy a Pro R end of story.

Also if you can haggle on a Speed that’s great, it proves my original argument that you can haggle on UTVs during COVID.🙂
 

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Lol, you keep changing your argument. First you claim there is no haggling on UTVs during COVID, I prove otherwise. Then you say well that’s not the car we are talking about, so Sandman comes in and proves you can haggle on the Pro R, then you say it’s not close enough to Cali. You do not need to spend 46k to buy a Pro R end of story.

Also if you can haggle on a Speed that’s great, it proves my original argument that you can haggle on UTVs during COVID.🙂

Your friend bought a Pro R after Thanksgiving? I didn't think so. We are talking about Pro R pricing.

Are you buying 2 Pro R UTVs in a crate on MSO for near MSRP with a 3000 miles round trip to get them with no plans to ever pay tax or register them? I didn't think so.
You don't have any personal knowledge of this deal anyway and the example isn't one a normal consumer would experience. Is this person a racer? Someone connected - probably so. But neither of us really know, so keep hanging your hat on it :)

Enjoy your fantasy world if you think driving 3000 miles (or paying for shipping) to save $1000 on a SXS is saving you any money. You haggled you way to a higher price.
 

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With current market you have to do some work buying.. Cars, Trucks, SxS etc.

I was after a 2 seater PRO and did a 300mile search of who had what i wanted in the blue and white model.
there are still new 2020 models out there because of power steering cease of sales and China flu work force..

There are folks that just let sales person tell them that's what the price is with the ADM... I paid MSRP with 25% off all OEM accessories. Went crazy and bought just about all in the catalog and thought about it and went back week later and still got 25% on more stuff..
 

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With current market you have to do some work buying.. Cars, Trucks, SxS etc.

I was after a 2 seater PRO and did a 300mile search of who had what i wanted in the blue and white model.
there are still new 2020 models out there because of power steering cease of sales and China flu work force..

There are folks that just let sales person tell them that's what the price is with the ADM... I paid MSRP with 25% off all OEM accessories. Went crazy and bought just about all in the catalog and thought about it and went back week later and still got 25% on more stuff..

That's pretty good! I think you can get out of the ADMs in most cases and work on them a bit for the fees. Those older ones that somehow have not been scooped up yet are the ones where you can get an decent price.
 

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Your friend bought a Pro R after Thanksgiving? I didn't think so. We are talking about Pro R pricing.

Are you buying 2 Pro R UTVs in a crate on MSO for near MSRP with a 3000 miles round trip to get them with no plans to ever pay tax or register them? I didn't think so.
You don't have any personal knowledge of this deal anyway and the example isn't one a normal consumer would experience. Is this person a racer? Someone connected - probably so. But neither of us really know, so keep hanging your hat on it :)

Enjoy your fantasy world if you think driving 3000 miles (or paying for shipping) to save $1000 on a SXS is saving you any money. You haggled you way to a higher price.
You are making the same assumptions you claim I am making lol. How do you know Sandman’s buddies cars are still in the crate? Also, when did I say my buddy bought a Pro R at all or any RZR for that matter AFTER thanksgiving?

BTW here is your original argument.

“ Have fun haggling for a SXS at a dealership right now. Ever heard of ADMs? You wont get one for below MSRP. You will be paying assembly fees, doc fees, and whatever crap they tack on.”

Not once was a Pro R mentioned at all, which is why I brought up my buddies Pro XP purchase. Your argument has now been proven wrong multiple times.

I know how you are and I know how I am we can argue all day lol!
 

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You are making the same assumptions you claim I am making lol. How do you know Sandman’s buddies cars are still in the crate? Also, when did I say my buddy bought a Pro R at all or any RZR for that matter AFTER thanksgiving?

BTW here is your original argument.

“ Have fun haggling for a SXS at a dealership right now. Ever heard of ADMs? You wont get one for below MSRP. You will be paying assembly fees, doc fees, and whatever crap they tack on.”

Not once was a Pro R mentioned at all, which is why I brought up my buddies Pro XP purchase. Your argument has now been proven wrong multiple times.

I know how you are and I know how I am we can argue all day lol!

This is a Pro R thread dude, don't make it this easy. However, If you want to play that game I directed the quote at YOU (it is right there in the quote). You wont get a SXS below MSRP+ fees at a dealership right now. You said you don't have a Pro R budget, So pick something you can afford, you go have fun, haggle, and prove me wrong.

Ask who sandmans buddy is (Polaris racer or adjacent), and how the cars came, if they were dealer prepped etc. We don't even know what "a tad over 40" is. We don't even know if they are 2 seaters or 4 seaters. I already told you they were on MSO and he confirmed it.
 

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This is a Pro R thread dude, don't make it this easy. However, If you want to play that game I directed the quote at YOU (it is right there in the quote). You wont get a SXS below MSRP+ fees at a dealership right now. You said you don't have a Pro R budget, So pick something you can afford, you go have fun, haggle, and prove me wrong.

Ask who sandmans buddy is (Polaris racer or adjacent), and how the cars came, if they were dealer prepped etc. We don't even know what "a tad over 40" is. We don't even know if they are 2 seaters or 4 seaters. I already told you they were on MSO and he confirmed it.
So now the thread title determines what SXSs we can talk about lol? You better start deleting every comment of yours that has Speed in it😂 I’ve already given you an example of “A SXS” purchased OTD below MSRP in the last couple months.

I won’t be buying anything new, my budget is 25k and even if if I bought a Pro XP OTD for MSRP I would still be over my budget once I did mandatory mods.

I’m sure Sandman will come in and clear up your questions.
 

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So now the thread title determines what SXSs we can talk about lol? You better start deleting every comment of yours that has Speed in it😂 I’ve already given you an example of “A SXS” purchased OTD below MSRP in the last couple months.

I won’t be buying anything new, my budget is 25k and even if if I bought a Pro XP OTD for MSRP I would still be over my budget once I did mandatory mods.

I’m sure Sandman will come in and clear up your questions.

So as I originally stated.. you won’t be buying a SXS from a dealer for less than MSRP. Thanks for playing.

I’m glad Sandman’s friend got a deal on them. Good on him but that is not typical of most consumer experiences. 1 transaction does not set the entire market. MSO is an out the door price, but you are not done paying fees in most cases if you plan on recreating legally. Whatever semantics you want to play about various OTD prices are fine but tax and reg fees are still money out of your pocket, and money you need to legally pay if you plan on using the car outside your driveway.
 

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So as I originally stated.. you won’t be buying a SXS from a dealer for less than MSRP. Thanks for playing.

I’m glad Sandman’s friend got a deal on them. Good on him but that is not typical of most consumer experiences. 1 transaction does not set the entire market. MSO is an out the door price, but you are not done paying fees in most cases if you plan on recreating legally. Whatever semantics you want to play about various OTD prices are fine but tax and reg fees are still money out of your pocket, and money you need to legally pay if you plan on using the car outside your driveway.
So my wallet sets the president for RZR purchases? What kind of logic is that!?😂

I have never stated you don’t have to pay Registration and Tax, I stated that you don’t need to spend 46k to buy a Pro R. You don’t, it’s not a 46k car it’s a 36k-42k car, if someone wants to walk into a dealership and pay all the extras that’s cool, it doesn’t mean that a Pro R is now a 46k car or maybe even a 50k car. If you have a LLC in certain states you could buy a Pro R for 36k.
 

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So my wallet sets the president for RZR purchases? What kind of logic is that!?😂

I have never stated you don’t have to pay Registration and Tax, I stated that you don’t need to spend 46k to buy a Pro R. You don’t, it’s not a 46k car it’s a 36k-42k car, if someone wants to walk into a dealership and pay all the extras that’s cool, it doesn’t mean that a Pro R is now a 46k car or maybe even a 50k car. If you have a LLC in certain states you could buy a Pro R for 36k.
You are the one taking the literal meaning for every word I type. I did the same with your words and now you are tap dancing with complete hypotheticals.

I'm talking OTD numbers here for average consumers. Not guys that have Montana LLCs and can spend a week driving all over the country.

Sure a guy "could" pay $36k If he had a connection, a Montana LLC and a trailer, truck and free gas and a week of free time. I "could" find one on the side of the road for free too. The fact is neither of those have happened and probably won't for at least a little while.

Enjoy your SXS, you will have a lot of fun with your family.
 

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You are the one taking the literal meaning for every word I type. I did the same with your words and now you are tap dancing with complete hypotheticals.

I'm talking OTD numbers here for average consumers. Not guys that have Montana LLCs and can spend a week driving all over the country.

Sure a guy "could" pay $36k If he had a connection, a Montana LLC and a trailer, truck and free gas and a week of free time. I "could" find one on the side of the road for free too. The fact is neither of those have happened and probably won't for at least a little while.

Enjoy your SXS, you will have a lot of fun with your family.
You are a smart guy and an even better arguer I know if you meant to Pro R instead of any SXS you would have but I’ll let it slide for the sake of everyone reading this thread lol.

If you know of anyone who’s thinking about selling their XP4T to get a new Speed or Pro let me know, i would prefer to wait until summer time but since the new cars will be delivered soon there might be deals to be had.
 

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You are a smart guy and an even better arguer I know if you meant to Pro R instead of any SXS you would have but I’ll let it slide for the sake of everyone reading this thread lol.

If you know of anyone who’s thinking about selling their XP4T to get a new Speed or Pro let me know, i would prefer to wait until summer time but since the new cars will be delivered soon there might be deals to be had.

I will stay on the lookout for deals for you. An XP4T is a great car. Look for an 18 or newer if possible. 17 is OK. 16 was the first year and had lower HP. MY 19-21 has the more modern dash which is much better

There will be many cars for sale pretty soon into summer. The Pro Rs are just trickling out now so I would not expect to see a ton of cars for sale quite yet. And I think the Speeds and Turbo Rs will arrive in the same spring timeframe. It is kinda weird timing for the desert season, I think a lot of people will end up holding until next season to buy or trade up because of the lack of inventory, but the market may play into your hands. My car is going up for sale when the engine is fixed.
 
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I will stay on the lookout for deals for you. An XP4T is a great car. Look for an 18 or newer if possible. 17 is OK. 16 was the first year and had lower HP. MY 19-21 has the more modern dash which is much better

There will be many cars for sale pretty soon into summer. The Pro Rs are just trickling out now so I would not expect to see a ton of cars for sale quite yet. And I think the Speeds and Turbo Rs will arrive in the same spring timeframe. It is kinda weird timing for the desert season, I think a lot of people will end up holding until next season to buy or trade up, but the market may play into your hands. My car is going up for sale when the engine is fixed.
I brows for RZRs everyday, it’s crazy but once you get to New Mexico or farther East they drop by 5-7k. I could by a modded 19+ XP4T for low 20s all day. But here we have Glamis tax I guess lol. I’m hoping this summer into early next season people either start taking delivery of their new cars or see the new cars and get an itch to get one. I really like the updated dash and the rear end of the 19+ but for the right deal any year will do for me, this will more than likely be a stepping stone car.
 

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I brows for RZRs everyday, it’s crazy but once you get to New Mexico or farther East they drop by 5-7k. I could by a modded 19+ XP4T for low 20s all day. But here we have Glamis tax I guess lol. I’m hoping this summer into early next season people either start taking delivery of their new cars or see the new cars and get an itch to get one. I really like the updated dash and the rear end of the 19+ but for the right deal any year will do for me, this will more than likely be a stepping stone car.
If you find the right car, go for it. This summer will be a good time to shop. People will be selling their cars to step into the new stuff next season and there will be a lot more inventory then. I don't think there will be enough inventory of Pro Rs to affect things too much in the next couple months. While the Southwest is a big market, Polaris will be delivering cars to a nationwide dealer network. Honestly most of the people that are going to drop everything to get the newest car in the next 60 days probably already have a car that would be out of your budget anyway, so I think the trickle down will happen closer to when you are ready.

Buy one that has all or most of the stuff you want already installed. That will save you thousands on the back end. Buying one of these used and throwing a $10K build at it is just throwing good money after bad, unless you find a smoking deal up front.
 

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If you find the right car, go for it. This summer will be a good time to shop. People will be selling their cars to step into the new stuff next season and there will be a lot more inventory then. I don't think there will be enough inventory of Pro Rs to affect things too much in the next couple months. While the Southwest is a big market, Polaris will be delivering cars to a nationwide dealer network. Honestly most of the people that are going to drop everything to get the newest car in the next 60 days probably already have a car that would be out of your budget anyway, so I think the trickle down will happen closer to when you are ready.

Buy one that has all or most of the stuff you want already installed. That will save you thousands on the back end. Buying one of these used and throwing a $10K build at it is just throwing good money after bad, unless you find a smoking deal up front.
I’ve heard from my sources that at the time of announcement Polaris had 3500 Pro Rs built waiting for ECMs, I’m not sure how fast they will get delivered or how much that will affect the market but I have a feeling people spending 40k+ on a UTV currently own UTVs out of my budget.

The plan is to buy one with as many mods on it as possible, I added mods up in my head and I sure got to 5-7k quick😂 it’s almost 4k for just a nice cage and paddles, plus I may or may not have just spent my RZR mod money on an engagement ring…
 

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I’ve heard from my sources that at the time of announcement Polaris had 3500 Pro Rs built waiting for ECMs, I’m not sure how fast they will get delivered or how much that will affect the market but I have a feeling people spending 40k+ on a UTV currently own UTVs out of my budget.

The plan is to buy one with as many mods on it as possible, I added mods up in my head and I sure got to 5-7k quick😂 it’s almost 4k for just a nice cage and paddles, plus I may or may not have just spent my RZR mod money on an engagement ring…

Yep. There will be plenty of used sets of paddles floating around as people unload their cars too.
 

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Yep. There will be plenty of used sets of paddles floating around as people unload their cars too.
I need a flat bed too, I’m pretty sure they have double in price though🤦‍♂️ Don’t think there is ever really a good time to buy one of those.
 

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Speed does not tell dealers what to sell cars for is the simple answer to your question. You are basing your argument off of 2nd hand info on a car bought on MSO halfway across the country, or your friend that bought a car that is not a model we are talking about. Both are no accurate to the question of pricing, haggling, or OTD pricing.


Depends. Do you count useable travel based on 4" of tire squish and a pit under the car like Polaris does?

The Speed car does not bottom out the chassis and they do not count tire compression as travel.

Polaris' "usable travel" numbers are meaningless jargon.



Can you just give me a simple answer. Your like the IT guy at work trying to educate someone on why it doesn’t work. No one cares lol.
 

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Can you just give me a simple answer. Your like the IT guy at work trying to educate someone on why it doesn’t work. No one cares lol.

And you are like the guy that can only read a digital clock.

Look up the specs and figure it out.
 

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Lol. Well fuck I gave you the chance to be the king of the answer and you said google it. Dick move.

New year, new strategy, same haterade.

You would have just argued with me if I gave you the answer anyway. :)
 

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Speed Thread 2.0

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Can you just give me a simple answer. Your like the IT guy at work trying to educate someone on why it doesn’t work. No one cares lol.
And you are like the guy that can only read a digital clock.

Look up the specs and figure it out.

Most members here are willing to share information.
You try to BESTOW information. (Regardless of how many comments or posts you have to edit).
I don't expect you to recognize the difference but I DO expect you to argue it. :)
 

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New year, new strategy, same haterade.

You would have just argued with me if I gave you the answer anyway. :)
Most members here are willing to share information.
You try to BESTOW information. (Regardless of how many comments or posts you have to edit).
I don't expect you to recognize the difference but I DO expect you to argue it. :)

I rest my case. I don't even have to try anymore, you just follow me around and kick yoreself in the nuts.
 
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