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Well as sad and as shitty as it is. At least it wasn’t a kid. Mom. Gramma. Etc.
But they’re safe good pets. Um. Ok.
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There's this dude who brings his gnarly pit down to dog beach.
He walks it out in the water about calf deep , and the thing just lays there in the water on the leash.
The owner faces the shore looking all 'Tough Guy', . . . and when any dog approaches, he yells 'Get Back He's Not Friendly'.

The thing reminds me of one of those alaskan sculpin . . . . Giant head & a weird body . . .

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I've seen several 'Close Calls' when a friendly dog approaches . . . . his dog is smart and it 'winds backwards' like a rattle snake coiling up waiting to strike.
The owner tries to keep the leash tight as the dog rears-back . . . . it's just a matter of time till one dog gets too close and the pit launches.

I get that the guy has just as much right as anyone to have his dog down there . . . and he always has it on a leash.
But it's almost like he's baiting the other dogs . . . he's got the whole f'ing beach & he always HAS to take that thing out front & center of everyone. . . never off to the side.

What a complete shine as far as being a liability . . . . worse than a chambered glock in your pocket w/o a holster . . . at least the trigger still needs to be pulled.

I stay clear the f-away from that thing.
 

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Is it the people or the dogs.

I have had 2 pit bulls.
Both were great dogs.
But the second one did not adjust when my now wife and I moved in together. He was used to me and lost his shit we also moved to a different house at the same time.

He was 100% fine until then. Had to put him down.
 

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Is it the people or the dogs.

I have had 2 pit bulls.
Both were great dogs.
But the second one did not adjust when my now wife and I moved in together. He was used to me and lost his shit we also moved to a different house at the same time.

He was 100% fine until then. Had to put him down.
To me this is a perfect example. It’s not a matter of when they will lose their shit. But when.
I will never be able to put any family member I know in that situation.
To each their own.
 

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Is it the people or the dogs.
100% the owners . . . . I had one years ago.
Got her as a 10 week pup . . . never so much of a 'hint' of a problem . . . kids, other dogs, cats, mailman, . . .zero problems. Lived to around 13.
I ain't against the 'breed' itself. . . but I do think it does tend to attract 'some' people who maybe aren't the best people to be owning that type of dog.
Broken Record I know.
 

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To me this is a perfect example. It’s not a matter of when they will lose their shit. But when.
I will never be able to put any family member I know in that situation.
To each their own.
It was weird. When it was just him and I he was fine. But when the living situation changed he turned into an escape artist. He broke out of the yard no matter what I did. Chewed through metal cages.

He never was aggressive to anyone ever. It was like he wanted to go back home or something. Even when people called me who found him miles away from the house he was chilling in their living room. lol

Even after he got pepper sprayed by the guys that broke into my old house he was still friendly with everyone.
 

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It was weird. When it was just him and I he was fine. But when the living situation changed he turned into an escape artist. He broke out of the yard no matter what I did. Chewed through metal cages.

He never was aggressive to anyone ever. It was like he wanted to go back home or something. Even when people called me who found him miles away from the house he was chilling in their living room. lol

Even after he got pepper sprayed by the guys that broke into my old house he was still friendly with everyone.
I believe you. And I’m sure they’re great. Until not. Just heard it to often as I said to put my family in that position
 
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There's this dude who brings his gnarly pit down to dog beach.
He walks it out in the water about calf deep , and the thing just lays there in the water on the leash.
The owner faces the shore looking all 'Tough Guy', . . . and when any dog approaches, he yells 'Get Back He's Not Friendly'.

The thing reminds me of one of those alaskan sculpin . . . . Giant head & a weird body . . .

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I've seen several 'Close Calls' when a friendly dog approaches . . . . his dog is smart and it 'winds backwards' like a rattle snake coiling up waiting to strike.
The owner tries to keep the leash tight as the dog rears-back . . . . it's just a matter of time till one dog gets too close and the pit launches.

I get that the guy has just as much right as anyone to have his dog down there . . . and he always has it on a leash.
But it's almost like he's baiting the other dogs . . . he's got the whole f'ing beach & he always HAS to take that thing out front & center of everyone. . . never off to the side.

What a complete shine as far as being a liability . . . . worse than a chambered glock in your pocket w/o a holster . . . at least the trigger still needs to be pulled.

I stay clear the f-away from that thing.

No, he doesn’t have as much right as anyone.
Especially while broadcasting to all approaching that his dog is not friendly.
Not sure what beach you’re talking about, but in nearly every city and county pit bulls are a designated dangerous breed.
Insurance companies generally categorize them as such also.
Mr Wilson might be the only legit exception. 👍
 

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Here’s my pit. Best dog I ever had, I guess until he’s not. 🖕🏿
Yeah I had three in a row, over probably a 12 year span when I was younger…maybe less time than that.
Swore by them.
Then I saw first hand just what they are capable of because of their strength and tendencies.
Then I researched the stats, then I quit training them because what it amounted to was hoping that they never went nuts later on, and any interactions with other dogs in training was a gamble. You either specialize in them or you don’t.
They are a liability in every way, everywhere they go.
The vast majority of pit bulls will never make headlines, but the vast majority of headlines will be made by pit bulls.

From 2005-2014 (in this country) pit bulls killed a person every 16.7 days on average. Accounting for 62% of all dog attack fatalities…8x higher than the next breed.

It’s so disproportionate that even if HALF of the attacks were misappropriated to pit bulls just based on visual perception the breed would still outpace second place by 400%.
If the breed was split into 3 groups depending on purity of breed, each group would still outpace other breeds by double.
Every 4 months pit bulls kill about the same amount of people as Dobermans have officially killed in the last 60 years.
Between 2012-2015 pit bulls killed about the same number of people as black bears have killed in the last 115 years.
48% of all people killed by pit bulls are family members.
In 2014 pit bulls killed about 14,250 other dogs…95% of all dog deaths by other dogs.

The stats are never ending. Tens of thousands of other animals like sheep and cows too.
I have a list with pictures of each of the 268 kids killed and eaten by pit bulls. (My friends 1 YO grandson is on that list)

There is no argument.
From the worst behaved pit to the most gentle laziest pit alive, ALL have one thing in common…the strength and ability to easily kill an animal or human many times their size.

I’m not an emotional anti pit bull crusader.
I used to own them, and I used to do basic obedience training as a hobby.
The numbers simply do not lie. And the courts agree in the never ending parade of lawsuits against pit bull owners.
The rhetorical arguments they present are like a broken record to judges nationwide.
I think it’s hilarious that Mr backyard breeder got killed.
 
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I've known a lot of thug types with pits...both dogs and owners were pricks. Known a few people that had them for years, they got nippy, and went away. I've had one friend with the most perfect family lapdog pit...that's the only one I've known that never bit anyone, ever. Odds aren't on those dogs' side. They can flip, and it's ugly.
 

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… never had a pit… Never wanted one… … this is a repeat, but …Had a female friend …Jana xxxxx…that had two pitts… People magazine did an article on her in the 70s… A limousine was part of the article that belonged to People magazine… Her two dogs, Truman, and ????… chewed the leather interior to shreds🤷🏽‍♀️…Dunno???…
 

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Yeah I had three in a row, over probably a 12 year span when I was younger…maybe less time than that.
Swore by them.
Then I saw first hand just what they are capable of because of their strength and tendencies.
Then I researched the stats, then I quit training them because what it amounted to was hoping that they never went nuts later on, and any interactions with other dogs in training was a gamble. You either specialize in them or you don’t.
They are a liability in every way, everywhere they go.
The vast majority of pit bulls will never make headlines, but the vast majority of headlines will be made by pit bulls.

From 2005-2014 (in this country) pit bulls killed a person every 16.7 days on average. Accounting for 62% of all dog attack fatalities…8x higher than the next breed.

It’s so disproportionate that even if HALF of the attacks were misappropriated to pit bulls just based on visual perception the breed would still outpace second place by 400%.
If the breed was split into 3 groups depending on purity of breed, each group would still outpace other breeds by double.
Every 4 months pit bulls kill about the same amount of people as Dobermans have officially killed in the last 60 years.
Between 2012-2015 pit bulls killed about the same number of people as black bears have killed in the last 115 years.
48% of all people killed by pit bulls are family members.
In 2014 pit bulls killed about 14,250 other dogs…95% of all dog deaths by other dogs.

The stats are never ending. Tens of thousands of other animals like sheep and cows too.
I have a list with pictures of each of the 268 kids killed and eaten by pit bulls. (My friends 1 YO grandson is on that list)

There is no argument.
From the worst behaved pit to the most gentle laziest pit alive, ALL have one thing in common…the strength and ability to easily kill an animal or human many times their size.

I’m not an emotional anti pit bull crusader.
I used to own them, and I used to do basic obedience training as a hobby.
The numbers simply do not lie. And the courts agree in the never ending parade of lawsuits against pit bull owners.
The rhetorical arguments they present are like a broken record to judges nationwide.
I think it’s hilarious that Mr backyard breeder got killed.
… I do not know what to say… Other than holy shit… and thanks for the stats…😳
 

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Yeah I had three in a row, over probably a 12 year span when I was younger…maybe less time than that.
Swore by them.
Then I saw first hand just what they are capable of because of their strength and tendencies.
Then I researched the stats, then I quit training them because what it amounted to was hoping that they never went nuts later on, and any interactions with other dogs in training was a gamble. You either specialize in them or you don’t.
They are a liability in every way, everywhere they go.
The vast majority of pit bulls will never make headlines, but the vast majority of headlines will be made by pit bulls.

From 2005-2014 (in this country) pit bulls killed a person every 16.7 days on average. Accounting for 62% of all dog attack fatalities…8x higher than the next breed.

It’s so disproportionate that even if HALF of the attacks were misappropriated to pit bulls just based on visual perception the breed would still outpace second place by 400%.
If the breed was split into 3 groups depending on purity of breed, each group would still outpace other breeds by double.
Every 4 months pit bulls kill about the same amount of people as Dobermans have officially killed in the last 60 years.
Between 2012-2015 pit bulls killed about the same number of people as black bears have killed in the last 115 years.
48% of all people killed by pit bulls are family members.
In 2014 pit bulls killed about 14,250 other dogs…95% of all dog deaths by other dogs.

The stats are never ending. Tens of thousands of other animals like sheep and cows too.
I have a list with pictures of each of the 268 kids killed and eaten by pit bulls. (My friends 1 YO grandson is on that list)

There is no argument.
From the worst behaved pit to the most gentle laziest pit alive, ALL have one thing in common…the strength and ability to easily kill an animal or human many times their size.

I’m not an emotional anti pit bull crusader.
I used to own them, and I used to do basic obedience training as a hobby.
The numbers simply do not lie. And the courts agree in the never ending parade of lawsuits against pit bull owners.
The rhetorical arguments they present are like a broken record to judges nationwide.
I think it’s hilarious that Mr backyard breeder got killed.
THAT’S why the breed needs to be extinct.
 

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… I have a neighbor/friend a world-class electric bass player… He has one or two of this breed… the female lost a front leg to cancer… The friend has nursed this dog back to health for something like nine years???…she is a sweetheart of a dog…at least on first impression…and did not go after …NEIGHBOR GiRL’S…English Bulldog when we were on a walk around the block???…
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Funny Pit Story.
Guy I worked with had one back in the early 90's.
An Albino Female . . . total pushover . . . ZERO problems.
He lived on a corner next to a school.
The dog would jump up his block wall and only put it's 2 front legs over . . . and it would bark at the kids walking by on the sidewalk on the other side !
Then it actually learned to go 'arm-over-arm' down the wall so it could follow & bark at the the kids without having to get down and jump back up ! 🤣
The kids were actually cool about it . . . they never messed with her . . . she was just excited, and not angry or protective . . . she just wanted to play.

Because she was an Albino, the poor thing always had bad skin problems . . . the block wall would rub her raw under the armpits & then get infected & messy, so he put a stop to it.
He used to get her high on weed to mellow her out from scratching .
She was a cool dog . . . had a tire swing she'd latch onto & swing back & forth . . . but again, good owner & zero aggression.
 

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Its painful to read about the loss of life..

I never thought we' d ever own a pit, but we do.

I heard that my son( 20 at the time , living out in an apartment over my shop) wanted a pit. I was , " no f'ing way!"..

Came home from work one night and there she was. This dog totally changed what I felt about the breed..

Its the owners that F them up.. just like broken homes all over the world.. bad home, bad life and example, the whole nine..

One of the best dogs we've ever owned.

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Gonna make c-hart cry! lol forgot his screen name
 
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We rescued our 3rd pit back in 2017 a day before she was to be put down. I swear that dog knew what we did for her and she turned out to not only be the best loving and loyal dog I ever had, but best dog I’ve ever been around. We had to put her down last year due to cancer and it was the hardest thing I’ve ever done. Like any animal it’s a gamble, we just hit the lottery with her.

RIP Gracie
 

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My cousin has had 3 of them. A bit energetic but amazingly fantastic dogs. Everybody loved those dogs that met them. Mack was REALLY intimidating looking..... until you tickled him..... he would jump and run around you and roll onto his back. He loved playing tickles.
 

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Yeah I had three in a row, over probably a 12 year span when I was younger…maybe less time than that.
Swore by them.
Then I saw first hand just what they are capable of because of their strength and tendencies.
Then I researched the stats, then I quit training them because what it amounted to was hoping that they never went nuts later on, and any interactions with other dogs in training was a gamble. You either specialize in them or you don’t.
They are a liability in every way, everywhere they go.
The vast majority of pit bulls will never make headlines, but the vast majority of headlines will be made by pit bulls.

From 2005-2014 (in this country) pit bulls killed a person every 16.7 days on average. Accounting for 62% of all dog attack fatalities…8x higher than the next breed.

It’s so disproportionate that even if HALF of the attacks were misappropriated to pit bulls just based on visual perception the breed would still outpace second place by 400%.
If the breed was split into 3 groups depending on purity of breed, each group would still outpace other breeds by double.
Every 4 months pit bulls kill about the same amount of people as Dobermans have officially killed in the last 60 years.
Between 2012-2015 pit bulls killed about the same number of people as black bears have killed in the last 115 years.
48% of all people killed by pit bulls are family members.
In 2014 pit bulls killed about 14,250 other dogs…95% of all dog deaths by other dogs.

The stats are never ending. Tens of thousands of other animals like sheep and cows too.
I have a list with pictures of each of the 268 kids killed and eaten by pit bulls. (My friends 1 YO grandson is on that list)

There is no argument.
From the worst behaved pit to the most gentle laziest pit alive, ALL have one thing in common…the strength and ability to easily kill an animal or human many times their size.

I’m not an emotional anti pit bull crusader.
I used to own them, and I used to do basic obedience training as a hobby.
The numbers simply do not lie. And the courts agree in the never ending parade of lawsuits against pit bull owners.
The rhetorical arguments they present are like a broken record to judges nationwide.
I think it’s hilarious that Mr backyard breeder got killed.
I'd be really curious how those stats would look if you took out pits that were raised in an abusive environment. Really just curious cause pits were SOOO popular with bangers in the 80's and 90's and the meaner the better.

No other breed really had that situation as such a large portion of its lineage.
 

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They can be really good but when they break bad the damage is WAY worse.

Sad for the dogs and their victims when they have crap owners.
 

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I do.t know much about pits. But, the ones that are rescued seem to be very thankful. But, I only see the rescue videos
 

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I'd be really curious how those stats would look if you took out pits that were raised in an abusive environment. Really just curious cause pits were SOOO popular with bangers in the 80's and 90's and the meaner the better.

No other breed really had that situation as such a large portion of its lineage.
It would likely influence the numbers to a degree?
But it is what it is and the stats may piss off a lot of pit Bull owners who feel they are being unfairly targeted and picked on, but the numbers do not lie.
Even good Pits act different when they become loose from their restraining environment, especially when they pack up with 2 or more pits. It’s basically on for whatever they encounter, be it animal or person.
Even Cesar knows that a pack of pits is a real danger, especially at feeding time. It’s no surprise this guy got fucked up feeding the dogs, especially if food is a concern for them.
Keep in mind, about half of pit bull attacks and fatalities happen within the family. That may erase a part of the “bad generation” theory?
I’ve said it before and I won’t preach it, but I used to own them as well. First 2 were cool, number 3 was temperamental. I owned that one when my friends grandson was killed by his sons pit. I put it down the next day.
Pits are completely in a league of their own statistically. Home invasions? They are the undisputed grand champion. They are virtually the only dog that will enter a home and attack.
In the past 20 years there are 29 +- depending on the source (cdc) human fatalities attributed to the runner up, Rottweilers, pit bulls knock that out in about 18 months or so historically.
There isn’t a single negative dog statistic that pit bulls do not own, and by very large margins far beyond any other breed.
They even lead the euthanasia stat.

The stats are what they are, and every law firm and insurance carrier has the list and the numbers.
To the owners who disagree, I am not the enemy.
I’m the guy who chose not to take that risk any longer just so I could prove that my pit bull was a good dog.
 
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I find it crazy, some pit bull owners will not admit the breed has a tendency to bite and, in some cases, maul. In my life I've had 4 dogs, each a different breed and all pure breeds. Cocker Spaniel, Bassett Hound, Golden Retreiver and Newfoundland. Each lived a long life. Only one had a tendency to bite. That was the Cocker Spaniel. That dog bit numerous people. I was just a kid. He never bit me. But yes, that breed does/can have a tendency to bite. Bite, but not maul.
 
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I find it crazy, some pit bull owners will not admit the breed has a tendency to bite and, in some cases, maul. In my life I've had 4 dogs, each a different breed and all pure breeds. Cocker Spaniel, Bassett Hound, Golden Retreiver and Newfoundland. Each lived a long life. Only one had a tendency to bite. That was the Cocker Spaniel. That dog bit numerous people. I was just a kid. He never bit me. But yes, that breed does/can have a tendency to bite. Bite, but not maul.
Yea, we had to put a Cocker Spaniel down for biting a little girl. Had couple of Black Labs, one probably had Pit in it, that were the nicest dogs ever. That being said I personally know some horror stories regarding Pits, although I love my neighbors two. They cower to our Jack Russells, LOL.
 
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I've never had a pit bull and have no desire to ever own one. I do understand that not all of them are bad, but it seems like there are so many stories about pits where they were such a good dog and never displayed any aggression until they snapped for some reason.

I'll stick to my doodle - No shedding, non aggressive but with a big enough bark to get people's attention.
 

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Buddy of mine had one for almost ten years. Sweetest, most mellow pit you’ve ever seen, as the story goes most of the time. Came home from work one day to a bloodbath in the kitchen, she had mauled and killed the other long time family dog. Right out of nowhere. She got put down the next day.
 

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I find it crazy, some pit bull owners will not admit the breed has a tendency to bite and, in some cases, maul. In my life I've had 4 dogs, each a different breed and all pure breeds. Cocker Spaniel, Bassett Hound, Golden Retreiver and Newfoundland. Each lived a long life. Only one had a tendency to bite. That was the Cocker Spaniel. That dog bit numerous people. I was just a kid. He never bit me. But yes, that breed does/can have a tendency to bite. Bite, but not maul.
Funny thing is pitbulls barely make the top 10 When it comes to bite frequency
I think Chihuahuas are number one or two?
The difference is when a pitbull does bite, it tends to rip things to shreds.
 
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I’ve never had a bad interaction with Pits, Rottweilers, Shepards or Dobermans.

I’ve had bad interactions with labs and goldens though lol. Go figure 🤷🏼‍♂️.


I don’t deny the stats.
 

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Funny thing is pitbulls barely make the top 10 When it comes to bite frequency
I think Chihuahuas are number one or two?
The difference is when a pitbull does bite, it tends to rip things to shreds.
Most of the time that happens with small breads because people shove their face in their face thinking it’s cute to rub noses with them. Then chomp!
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If this thread Peter’s out we can switch to, “Do you spank your kids”?

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A Pit attacked my Lab on a walk with My wife and locked on to his neck The "owner" did get control after my wife beat the fuck out of him , had I been present I would have capped it right there on the sidewalk ..............
 
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