Pit bulls. At your own risk.

[2Driver]

A Pit attacked my Lab on a walk with My wife and locked on to his neck The "owner" did get control after my wife beat the fuck out of him , had I been present I would have capped it right there on the sidewalk ..............

Think twice.

Dogs are considered personal property, you would go to jail or at least be prosecuted for discharging a firearm assuming it didn’t ricochet and hit someone.

A met a guy at Cabelas that told me his whole personal story of this exact thing . He was awaiting trial, it literally destroyed his successful business as a government contractor and his personal life.

 

[rrrr]

Think twice.

Dogs are consider personal property, you would go to jail or at least be prosecuted for discharging a firearm assuming it didn’t ricochet and hit someone.

A met a guy at Cabelas that told me his whole personal story of this exact thing . He was awaiting trial, it literally destroyed his successful business as a government contractor and his personal life.

That sounds a bit ridiculous, but I'm assuming you live in California. If I was a little less concerned about what was downrange, I would have shot the fucking pit that attacked me in a second. The cops would have called animal control to haul away the carcass and that would have been the end of it.

The cop on scene had no problem regarding my actions with the gun. He unloaded it and put it in my glovebox for me while I was in the ambulance. I seriously doubt that would have happened in the good weather state.

I'm still pissed at myself for not killing it. Having a hole in my car would have been a good tradeoff for the satisfaction of dispatching the POS. Animal control put it down 10 days later, I was still in the hospital.

 

[2Driver]

That sounds a bit ridiculous, but I'm assuming you live in California. If I was a little less concerned about what was downrange, I would have shot the fucking pit that attacked me in a second. The cops would have called animal control to haul away the carcass and that would have been the end of it.

The cop on scene had no problem regarding my actions with the gun. He unloaded it and put it in my glovebox for me while I was in the ambulance. I seriously doubt that would have happened in the good weather state.

I'm still pissed at myself for not killing it. Having a hole in my car would have been a good tradeoff for the satisfaction of dispatching the POS. Animal control put it down 10 days later, I was still in the hospital.

Arizona

Big difference if the dog is attacking you. Yeah, shoot it that is self defense. This guy, like the situation I was quoting, is not the same. He had a pit attack his dog and he open fired to protect his dog in the city of Phoenix.

It doesn't matter if it doesn’t seem right, that just the law. You can’t whip out a fire arm and start open firing at every dog fight. I didn’t write the law it’s just something to think twice about as the stakes are very high.
LOL not to mention the media and public will portray you as lunatic gun wielding dog killer. Like a lot of shit these days the person in the right ends up as the fall guy.

 

[petie6464]

Read up to "Compton".. That tells the story..

 

[CoronaChris]

I got attacked by a German shepherd, fucked my leg up pretty good. Let’s ban those fuckers while we are at it. NOT, just a dog that was protecting its property. I could have sued the fuck out of the property owners as it was a police K9 that jumped over its fence and tore my ass up. I went to the hospital got stitched up and went on my way. Shitty situation, hopefully the handler learned a lesson and will lock that dog up with no access to the public unless it bites a bad guys ass.

 

[Mr. C]

I got attacked by a German shepherd, fucked my leg up pretty good. Let’s ban those fuckers while we are at it. NOT, just a dog that was protecting its property. I could have sued the fuck out of the property owners as it was a police K9 that jumped over its fence and tore my ass up. I went to the hospital got stitched up and went on my way. Shitty situation, hopefully the handler learned a lesson and will lock that dog up with no access to the public unless it bites a bad guys ass.

I don’t think the handler has to worry about much anymore.

Big difference in being bit. And being mauled. Most dogs let up after the initial attack. Can’t say the same for the pit.
Again. I’m not telling anyone not to get the dog they want. Just saying I would never put me or my family around them.

 

[Gelcoater]

I’m more cautious around Belgian Mals than pits. I do not trust them.

We will see a surge in bites/mailings by these as time progresses I believe.

 

[DILLIGAF]

I’m more cautious around Belgian Mals than pits. I do not trust them.

We will see a surge in bites/mailings by these as time progresses I believe.

Lots of people are getting Mals and they have no friggin idea what they have. It has to be taken on with a very high responsibility level.

 

[rivrrts429]

It wouldn’t be winter around these parts without at least one of these threads each year lol

 

[Gelcoater]

It wouldn’t be winter around these parts without at least one of these threads each year lol

Overall I’d say we are down?
Usually 2-4 pit bull threaads per winter at minimum

 

[Rajobigguy]

Overall I’d say we are down?
Usually 2-4 pit bull threaads per winter at minimum

I guess I can talk about my cat that used to like to maul German shepherds.

 

[was thatguy]

Funny stuff.

Number 43 was my friends grandson.
You have to scroll through a lot of names to get back that far. ..

U.S. Children Killed by Pit Bulls - Fatal Pit Bull Attacks - The Archival Record - DogsBite.org

The number of U.S. children killed by pit bulls since 1980 by DogsBite.org - Fatal Pit Bull Attacks - The Archival Record

www.fatalpitbullattacks.com

 

[CoronaChris]

I don’t think the handler has to worry about much anymore.

Big difference in being bit. And being mauled. Most dogs let up after the initial attack. Can’t say the same for the pit.
Again. I’m not telling anyone not to get the dog they want. Just saying I would never put me or my family around them.

 

[was thatguy]

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I would not blame that dog if he bit you fair and square for doing that to him…

 

[RogerThat99]

Is it the people or the dogs.

I have had 2 pit bulls.
Both were great dogs.
But the second one did not adjust when my now wife and I moved in together. He was used to me and lost his shit we also moved to a different house at the same time.

He was 100% fine until then. Had to put him down.

When I was in my 20's, The same exact thing happened with my Buddy's Pit. The dog was a lap dog. But Once he and his girlfriend moved in together the dog started biting people and had to be put down. I always said if that dog could change like that, any pit could change.

 

[C-2]

A couple of weeks back my daughter and I were driving down Sixth St in Norco and traffic got all jammed up. A pit had grabbed ahold of a dog on the horse trail and I saw a guy wrestling with the pit that was latched onto the dog. Somebody else was trying the water hose up the nose.

I pulled over and reached for my pepper spray that I normally carry - but I had switched jeans and didn't have it. I told my daughter - that guy on the ground under the pit is a fool and some people are gonna get hurt...

Sure as hell, a few minutes later, we saw a Sheriff and an ambulance racing to the scene (the firs station is literally a 1/4 mile away and they were already there)

Do you guys think pepper spray would work?

 

[was thatguy]

A couple of weeks back my daughter and I were driving down Sixth St in Norco and traffic got all jammed up. A pit had grabbed ahold of a dog on the horse trail and I saw a guy wrestling with the pit that was latched onto the dog. Somebody else was trying the water hose up the nose.

I pulled over and reached for my pepper spray that I normally carry - but I had switched jeans and didn't have it. I told my daughter - that guy on the ground under the pit is a fool and some people are gonna get hurt...

Sure as hell, a few minutes later, we saw a Sheriff and an ambulance racing to the scene (the firs station is literally a 1/4 mile away and they were already there)

Do you guys think pepper spray would work?

Yes, I think so.

 

[hallett21]

Yes, I think so.

Trying to think how that would go while someone has it in a headlock. I guess pepper spray beats losing a limb or your life.

 

[C-2]

The same sceario happened when I was kid, strays came into the yard and our pits got ahold of them. Our male pit had already killed one dog and was just chewing on it, but our female pit had a dog in its clinches.

My dad was beating the female pit over the head with a wood log. The pit was bleeding out of its eyes but refused to let go. My mom had time to go call my gramps who said try the water hose, stop the pit from breathing. It eventually worked, but not before the stray dog had bitten my pops up. The stray spilt after the pit let go...so pops ad to do the whole rabies thing. It was gnarly.

Eventually we had to put both dogs down. These were not abused dogs, they were family pets.

 

[CLdrinker]

When I was in my 20's, The same exact thing happened with my Buddy's Pit. The dog was a lap dog. But Once he and his girlfriend moved in together the dog started biting people and had to be put down. I always said if that dog could change like that, any pit could change.

Mine never got mean towards people. He just didn’t like the move to the new house and not getting my undivided attention.

 

[C-2]

Trying to think how that would go while someone has it in a headlock. I guess pepper spray beats losing a limb or your life.

The guy was on the ground with the pit on top of him. For sure, the guy had no clue.

 

[C-2]

My uncle had a lazy old female pit...she seemed a bit slow.

He spent $800 on an American Bull Terrier pup (25 years ago) and came home one day to find the puppy in pieces. He didn't put her down, but he never trusted her again.

 

[bonesfab]

I don’t trust them. Dog park one time a lady shows up with a couple kids and three of the smaller pits. Dogs are being pretty aggressive and she had no control. I got my mutt and left. Heard the following day they went after one of the little dogs. Mine wouldve ran over to be the hero.

 

[was thatguy]

I think I’ve told the story here once about my HS friends bad ass pit, Brutus.
Brutus was scary as fuck.
He looked skinny, but that was deceiving because his head was the size of Montana. Cropped ears, beautiful Brindle colors. I don’t know what he weighed but it was a lot.
He belonged to Randy, a guy we knew from high school that became a drug dealer and small time stick up guy. In fact his claim to fame was as the “banana bandit”, because he robbed quick stops with a banana in his pocket like a gun.
One day a couple of us were sitting in Randy’s little house with the front door open and just the screen door closed.
Brutus was on probation for attacking other dogs at this time and was just chillin on the floor.
In the several years I’d known Brutus not once had I ever seen him give any person a sideways glance. He didn’t give a shit about people as long as Randy was there and nothing was going on.
But…the same was not true about other animals. He would lose his mind over any other dog or cat or any animal really.
A truck went slowly driving by on Randy’s little dirt road with a German shepherd in the bed and it barked. In a flash Brutus was gone, Randy made a lunge at him to grab him but he was too late. Brutus went straight through the screen door like it wasn’t even there. I mean literally right through it. Didn’t slow him down for even a nanosecond. Two or three strides and he launched into that truck and took the Shepard straight over the other side.
All this was less than 5 seconds or so. Randy ran out and had Brutus with both arms in a neck hold wrestling on the ground trying to drag him off but he had zero effect on Brutus. The truck guy had a small Billy club and was beating on Brutus’s head but he would not let go, Brutus had the other dog by the neck and never let up or even took a second bite. It seemed like 10 minutes or so but it was probably shorter before Brutus finally let go and just walked back into the house. The Shepard had been dead for a few minutes at that point. So then the fight was on between Randy and the other guy but the cops came pulling up right about then and all the neighbors were outside too.
I couldn’t believe that the steady beating on Brutus head with that club had no effect. 2 full grown men couldn’t get him off that dog at all, not one bit.
Randy was in the dirt the whole time trying to wrestle him off with the other dude beating on Brutus and as far as Brutus was concerned they weren’t even there.
So the cops came and took Brutus away to his immediate execution since he was then a multiple offender.

 

[Meaney77]

Worst breed by far. That breed needs to end

Such a terrible breed.... now that's funny

 

[Runs2rch]

I guess I can talk about my cat that used to like to maul German shepherds.

By cat you mean pet Ocelot right??? Hahaha

 

[RiverDave]

It wouldn’t be winter around these parts without at least one of these threads each year lol

Right? lol

 

[Mr. C]

It wouldn’t be winter around these parts without at least one of these threads each year lol

It’s not just winter. They pop when these attacks happen. Summer. Winter. Fall. . Spring. Makes no difference.
Which might say a little something.
Like.
They happen a lot with this breed.

Again. Just sayin. You all do you.

 

[was thatguy]

It’s not just winter. They pop when these attacks happen. Summer. Winter. Fall. . Spring. Makes no difference.
Which might say a little something.
Like.
They happen a lot with this breed.

Again. Just sayin. You all do you.

Right? lol

It would take a lot more than a couple threads a year to keep up.

In this past year (2023) the record was set for the all time number of dog attack fatalities with 72 people being killed by dogs. (69 besides 3 in question)
Of those 72 deaths 57 were caused by pit bulls.
That means pit bulls killed a person every 6.4 days on average in 2023.
It also means that besides the 57 killed by pit bulls, the remaining 15 deaths were by ALL OTHER BREEDS COMBINED.
It was hypothesized earlier that the worst days might be behind us as the pit bull gangster decades have passed.
Sadly, that is not the case at all.
Pit bull killings are 3 times more frequent now than in years past.

Believe it, don’t believe it, doesn’t change the facts at all.
So it’s unlikely that anyone shooting a stray pit would ever be in any sort of trouble, given the epidemic.

Record 73 dog attack deaths in 2023 included also record 57 by pit bull - Animals 24-7

But the two most publicized possible dog attack fatalities of 2023 are off the list

www.animals24-7.org

 

[hallett21]

It would take a lot more than a couple threads a year to keep up.

In this past year (2023) the record was set for the all time number of dog attack fatalities with 72 people being killed by dogs. (69 besides 3 in question)
Of those 72 deaths 57 were pit bulls.
That means pit bulls killed a person every 6.4 days on average in 2023.
It also means that besides the 57 killed by pit bulls, the remaining 15 deaths were by ALL OTHER BREEDS COMBINED.
It was hypothesized earlier that the worst days might be behind us as the pit bull gangster decades have passed.
Sadly, that is not the case at all.
Pit bull killings are 3 times more frequent now than in years past.

Believe it, don’t believe it, doesn’t change the facts at all.
So it’s unlikely that anyone shooting a stray pit would ever be in any sort of trouble, given the epidemic.

Record 73 dog attack deaths in 2023 included also record 57 by pit bull - Animals 24-7

But the two most publicized possible dog attack fatalities of 2023 are off the list

www.animals24-7.org

Not to be argumentative but I wonder how Pits stack up per capita. There’s gotta be way more pittbulls than any other breed no?

Edit. 18 million apparently.

Pit Bulls Are 2023's #1 Breed in the United States! - Humane Society of Tampa Bay

If you are interested in adopting a dog in Tampa, learn more today about how this breed may be the perfect addition to your family.

humanesocietytampa.org

 

[hallett21]

Interesting statistics article from Forbes on dog attacks in general. However the charts seem to be dated.

Dog Attack Statistics By Breed 2024

Dog attacks can be frightening and can cause devastating injuries. While any dog can bite, some breeds tend to have much higher rates of aggressive incidents than others. These dog attack statistics by breed shed light on which animals may present the greatest danger.

www.forbes.com

 

[was thatguy]

Not to be argumentative but I wonder how Pits stack up per capita. There’s gotta be way more pittbulls than any other breed no?

Edit. 18 million apparently.

Pit Bulls Are 2023's #1 Breed in the United States! - Humane Society of Tampa Bay

If you are interested in adopting a dog in Tampa, learn more today about how this breed may be the perfect addition to your family.

humanesocietytampa.org

It’s hard to nail that down.
The humane society is the only organization that I can find that claims the pit is the most numerous breed.
They certainly rule the humane shelters and the euthanasia table, and I think that might influence the societies numbers?

 

[hallett21]

It’s hard to nail that down.
The humane society is the only organization that I can find that claims the pit is the most numerous breed.
They certainly rule the humane shelters and the euthanasia table, and I think that might influence the societies numbers?

Im also seeing French Bulldog as #1 which makes no sense lol.

 

[was thatguy]

Im also seeing French Bulldog as #1 which makes no sense lol.

Lol
Right?
The law firm sites tend to rely on more unbiased sources like CDC.
All the other ones are agency biased or AKC biased etc.

When entire legal cottage industries are made possible by pit bulls, it seems like an easy decision to not have pit bulls?

 

[rivrrts429]

It’s not just winter. They pop when these attacks happen. Summer. Winter. Fall. . Spring. Makes no difference.
Which might say a little something.
Like.
They happen a lot with this breed.

Again. Just sayin. You all do you.

I wasn’t singling you out if that’s how you perceived my post.

 

[rivrrts429]

Im also seeing French Bulldog as #1 which makes no sense lol.

I have one and he’s an asshole. The dog is a spaz when I get home after being gone all day.

“Nacho” gets so tuned up that he’ll nip my hand by mistake trying to get my undivided attention. I assume the majority of dog bite reports from Frenchie’s are innocent incidents like these.

I’ll never own another Frenchie.

 

[Mr. C]

I wasn’t singling you out if that’s how you perceived my post.

I did not perceive that way. At all

 

[hallett21]

Lol
Right?
The law firm sites tend to rely on more unbiased sources like CDC.
All the other ones are agency biased or AKC biased etc.

When entire legal cottage industries are made possible by pit bulls, it seems like an easy decision to not have pit bulls?

I see your point but like I said I’ve never had a bad experience with any of the “scary” dogs (Pits, Shepards, Rottweiler, Doberman, Cane Corsos etc).

I got bit by a lab & golden retriever and have watched family members get bit by labs. I don’t have a problem with those breeds either. Just my experience.

 

[rivrrts429]

I see your point but like I said I’ve never had a bad experience with any of the “scary” dogs (Pits, Shepards, Rottweiler, Doberman, Cane Corsos etc).

I got bit by a lab & golden retriever and have watched family members get bit by labs. I don’t have a problem with those breeds either. Just my experience.

The biggest POS dog I’ve ever been around was a Dalmatian. That dog was sneaky with its bites.

My brother in law had to put that prick down because it’s behavior was so erratic. I would’ve done it myself if he couldn’t.

 

[was thatguy]

I see your point but like I said I’ve never had a bad experience with any of the “scary” dogs (Pits, Shepards, Rottweiler, Doberman, Cane Corsos etc).

I got bit by a lab & golden retriever and have watched family members get bit by labs. I don’t have a problem with those breeds either. Just my experience.

I love rotties.
It’s about the only dog I’d ever own again.
I’ve been bit by most every breed, lol.

 

[hallett21]

The biggest POS dog I’ve ever been around was a Dalmatian. That dog was sneaky with its bites.

My brother in law had to put that prick down because it’s behavior was so erratic. I would’ve done it myself if he couldn’t.

I’ve heard that from a lot of people. Why did they become the fire dog breed?

 

[rivermobster]

Ya know how they say...

Ya learn something new every day?

Did you know there is no such breed as a pitbull?

I did some searches to find out a bit more about em, and it turns out the ACK does not recognize the "breed".

So how ya gonna ban something that doesn't exist?

Is a Pitbull a Breed? / The Animal Foundation

Many people are confused about whether a pitbull is a breed or exactly what a “pitbull” is. Learn more about whether pitbulls are a breed here.

animalfoundation.com

Thought this was an interesting read as well...

Why Breed Bans Affect You – American Kennel Club

Does your dog have almond shaped eyes? A heavy and muscular neck? A tail medium in length that tapers to a point? A smooth and short coat? A broad chest? I

www.akc.org

 

[was thatguy]

@hallett21
I used to fancy myself a trainer and did that on the side when I was younger, so I was exposed to a lot of muts with teeth. Lol

My most difficult personal dog was a show stopper red chow.

 

[was thatguy]

Ya know how they say...

Ya learn something new every day?

Did you know there is no such breed as a pitbull?

I did some searches to find out a bit more about em, and it turns out the ACK does not recognize the "breed".

So how ya gonna ban something that doesn't exist?

Is a Pitbull a Breed? / The Animal Foundation

Many people are confused about whether a pitbull is a breed or exactly what a “pitbull” is. Learn more about whether pitbulls are a breed here.

animalfoundation.com

Thought this was an interesting read as well...

Why Breed Bans Affect You – American Kennel Club

Does your dog have almond shaped eyes? A heavy and muscular neck? A tail medium in length that tapers to a point? A smooth and short coat? A broad chest? I

www.akc.org

Easy.
The courts, insurance companies, and law firms have already set the precedent.
If it looks like a pit bull, it is a pit bull.
The common argument that pit owners make is that their dog is not a pit bull, but an “XYZ Terrier”…
Judges, juries, insurance adjusters and lawyers do not care. Lol
My attorney will bury that argument in 2 minutes, and the judge will agree because he’s heard it a thousand times before…probably several times a week.

A duck by any other name is still a duck.

 

[rivermobster]

I have one and he’s an asshole. The dog is a spaz when I get home after being gone all day.

“Nacho” gets so tuned up that he’ll nip my hand by mistake trying to get my undivided attention. I assume the majority of dog bite reports from Frenchie’s are innocent incidents like these.

I’ll never own another Frenchie.

You can see mine is super aggressive as well. We need to get em together!

 

[rivrrts429]

I’ve heard that from a lot of people. Why did they become the fire dog breed?

Fire dog or Budweiser Dog but my hunch is Cruella De Vil has been inbreeding all 101 of those bastard dogs and they’ve gone rogue lol

I have no idea how that breed became the fire dog.

 

[rivrrts429]

You can see mine is super aggressive as well. We need to get em together!



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I think Nacho has a “check engine” light stuck on. The second anyone tries to pet him he transitions into a 2-stroke 125cc having its neck rung out. He’s a piece of work lol

 

[rivermobster]

Easy.
The courts, insurance companies, and law firms have already set the precedent.
If it looks like a pit bull, it is a pit bull.
The common argument that pit owners make is that their dog is not a pit bull, but an “XYZ Terrier”…
Judges, juries, insurance adjusters and lawyers do not care. Lol
My attorney will bury that argument in 2 minutes, and the judge will agree because he’s heard it a thousand times before…probably several times a week.

A duck by any other name is still a duck.

So now you wanna ban ducks??

I'm all for it. I'm getting tired of cleaning their shit off the deck of my toon. Man that stuff is Nasty!!!

I wonder which "breed" is the worst?

 

[rivermobster]

I think Nacho has a “check engine” light stuck on. The second anyone tries to pet him he transitions into a 2-stroke 125cc having its neck rung out. He’s a piece of work lol

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Perfect. They will get along fine!

 

[Willie B]

I love rotties.
It’s about the only dog I’d ever own again.
I’ve been bit by most every breed, lol.

… had a big Rottie when I lived in Big Tujunga Canyon… He kind of came with the 4 acres… Without a doubt the dumbest, funniest dog I have ever seen in my life…except for the funny part with NEIGHBOR GIRLS English bulldog… I have posted a couple stories about him but… I wouldn’t know where to begin now???…