Picking the ultimate family hauler

[eand28]

 

[rivermobster]

So you are recommending a Lexus SUV to load up 5-6 passengers, gear, and then tow a Hallet 270 up hills with power to spare.

NOTED !

Awwwwww...

Did I hurt your feeling by saying GM SUCKS compared to Lexus?

I'm sorry.

Here is a cookie to make you feel better.

 

[Sharky]

View attachment 1326469 View attachment 1326470 Just seen this and thought of this thread….Sweet looking ride

5.7 TBI. . . . . NO. Hell NO!!
Probably got a 700R4 that can go in the crusher as well as the entire vehicle.

 

[Bigbore500r]

Awwwwww...

Did I hurt your feeling by saying GM SUCKS compared to Lexus?

I'm sorry.

Here is a cookie to make you feel better.

I’m thinking your cookies are chock full of THC….cause you gotta be high AF with that recommendation

 

[Daytona47]

Beautiful van but I guarantee he isn't giving that one away.

43k

 

[Bigbore500r]

2500 lbs more? He’s talking about a couple kids and a couple friends, not 8 RDP members and their 96 quart Yetis filled with their gold bars.

A Sequoia is about 500 lbs more than a Tundra dry. You can weigh the Tundra down with a bed full of stuff too.

No it’s not a lot different. Put airbags in the Sequoia, push the gas pedal. You’ll get where you want to go.

I’m saying an 01 Tundra (which isn’t even a real crew cab, nor the same size truck as the later model trucks / sequoias) May have pulled 8000 pounds ok, but a Seqouia WITH A CARLOAD OF PEOPLE ain’t gonna be happy about it….and its probably 2500 pounds heavier

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I’m saying an 01 Tundra (which isn’t even a real crew cab, nor the same size truck as the later model trucks / sequoias) May have pulled 8000 pounds ok, but a Seqouia WITH A CARLOAD OF PEOPLE ain’t gonna be happy about it….and its probably 2500 pounds heavier

Again..Maybe if the carload of people are all full grown RDP members

4 people can fit in a Tundra, even an extended cab 2000 model. We are talking about adding 1-2 small children to that, plus 500 lbs.

You are talking a 600-700 lb delta.

And he’s not even taking about getting a first Gen Tundra/Sequoia for this yob.

A first Gen Sequoia is rated for 6250 towing.

The first Gen Tundra is rated for 7200 lbs.

The payload capacity for the Tundra is 2000 lbs. the payload capacity for the Sequoia is 1400.

Magically, that just about lines up with the 500 extra pounds the Sequoia weighs.

 

[CLdrinker]

You guys can complicate anything.

Tahoe
Suburban
Expedition

Are the cost effective choices within his budget.
Just needs to decide cam phasers or lifters lol

 

[N2DEEP]

2020 cpo Escalade. Hands down the best family vehicle for us without taken a huge hit on a brand new one.

 

[Cooter01]

 

[attitude]

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Finally, a reasonable suggestion.

 

[Cooter01]

Finally, a reasonable suggestion.

I figured the bentley bentayga or rolls-royce cullinan black badge couldn't handle the towing duties.

 

[hallett21]

You guys can complicate anything.

Tahoe
Suburban
Expedition

Are the cost effective choices within his budget.
Just needs to decide cam phasers or lifters lol

Sequoia isn’t a bad option either. And whatever letter option the Lexus version is.

 

[CLdrinker]

Sequoia isn’t a bad option either. And whatever letter option the Lexus version is.

3rd and second rows are noticeably smaller in the Lexus.

Sequoia looks like it was designed in the 90’s

Now if you lay the cash out for a brand new Sequoia those are bad ass second be at the top.

I would buy an Expedition and start saving for cam phasers and the other issues the 3.5 has.

 

[Xtrmwakeboarder]

Finally, a reasonable suggestion.

Reasonable would have been the Hennessey version… not that poverty mobile.

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[CLdrinker]

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[rivermobster]

I’m thinking your cookies are chock full of THC….cause you gotta be high AF with that recommendation

Shit mang, I made em just for you!

 

[brgrcru]

E350 4x4 ford van

 

[HST4ME]

I'd love a late 60's pontiac wagon with the 8 lugs and a D max/allison conversion

 

[attitude]

 

[Orange Juice]

40 years ago we had Full Size custom 3/4 ton vans, station wagons with v-8s, Suburans and Blazers, Caprice Classics, and the standard pickup. None of them really towed worth a crap, but the speed limit was 55mph, 45mph on a steep grade was call of the day.

I ran my 1983 suburban until 2005, then it just got too dangerous at highway speeds, loaded down with 6 people and pulling a 21’ boat. Most of the issue was braking, especially in heavy traffic

Today, I'd probably go with less flashy on the outside, and focus on a nice stitch-and-finish interior, and a comfortable ride suspension. Nothing over $100k, and I'd have to own it for 22 years.

 

[JL95]

I want to see some 2021+ suburbans and yukon xl's on beadlocks

 

[Bigbore500r]

Shit mang, I made em just for you!

When you coming over?

 

[AZLineman]

I luv my 7.3 Exc. It's a monster with 456 gears

 

[Bigbore500r]

You guys can complicate anything.

Tahoe
Suburban
Expedition

Are the cost effective choices within his budget.
Just needs to decide cam phasers or lifters lol

Being that I just spent a few weekends rebuilding my wifes DOHC Jeep 3.6 valvetrain . . . I'll choose regular old lifters all day, every day!

 

[Bigbore500r]

Again..Maybe if the carload of people are all full grown RDP members

4 people can fit in a Tundra, even an extended cab 2000 model. We are talking about adding 1-2 small children to that, plus 500 lbs.

You are talking a 600-700 lb delta.

And he’s not even taking about getting a first Gen Tundra/Sequoia for this yob.

A first Gen Sequoia is rated for 6250 towing.

The first Gen Tundra is rated for 7200 lbs.

The payload capacity for the Tundra is 2000 lbs. the payload capacity for the Sequoia is 1400.

Magically, that just about lines up with the 500 extra pounds the Sequoia weighs.

OK, your right

Same thing I tell my wife

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

OK, your right

Same thing I tell my wife

Math is a bitch sometimes .

 

[Bigbore500r]

Math is a bitch sometimes .

Your right

A 2001 seqouia is going to haul his 7000lb Hallet 270, PLUS a carload of family and gear, safely up and down the grades with power to spare from it's 240hp / 315ftlb 4.6L engine.

Yes - math is a bitch!

 

[rivermobster]

When you coming over?

Not sure. But it probably won't be too long.

Need to take my BIL's boat out. Maybe you should meet me there.

 

[Done-it-again]

So @hallett21 have you increase your budget? Lol. We all like spending other people’s $$$$.

 

[17 10 Flat]

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Is this within the 60K price range??

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Your right

A 2001 seqouia is going to haul his 7000lb Hallet 270, PLUS a carload of family and gear, safely up and down the grades with power to spare from it's 240hp / 315ftlb 4.6L engine.

Yes - math is a bitch!

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He does not have a 270 and he was never talking about buying a 25 year old Sequoia. But If that was the case the Tundra coudl not do it either loaded down with its identical engine and brakes.

But yet here we are, and people lived towing boats with 25 year old Tundras and Sequoias.

You never did answer the question how 2 small children and their gear was an extra 1500 lbs.

 

[hallett21]

Im actually pleasantly surprised with the price of 2019 suburbans and sequoias. I might come in under budget for once lol

So @hallett21 have you increase your budget? Lol. We all like spending other people’s $$$$.

 

[Bigbore500r]

He does not have a 270 and he was never talking about buying a 25 year old Sequoia. But If that was the case the Tundra coudl not do it either loaded down with its identical engine and brakes.

But yet here we are, and people lived towing boats with 25 year old Tundras and Sequoias.

You never did answer the question how 2 small children and their gear was an extra 1500 lbs.

Did you read the original post?

 

[ChrisV]

Why is a 2001 Sequoia even in this topic. Not like @hallett21 is getting an 2001 Tahoe either.

 

[17 10 Flat]

Did you read the original post?

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Are you trying to rock the boat?

 

[Icky]

Not one mention of the Wagoneer?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Did you read the original post?

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Did you? Remember when you said the Sequoia would be “2500 lbs more loaded down” and his requirement is 2 adults and 2 kids . This isn’t an episode of My 600 lb Life here. They could fit all of that in either vehicle.

A 25 year old Tundra or Sequoia was never even on the short list (read the first post). Both will tow a Hallett 270 if needed however.

You are getting as bad a rivermobster

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

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So what’s that saying?

You’re only halfway to paying invoice like the good old days??

 

[Bobby_329]

Its gonna be over the budget but if I was looking at Toyotas the land cruiser is supposed to come out this year.

 

[BHC Vic]

This is another place I was getting stuck, looking at the used inventory. Trying to find a Suburban with the "Max Tow Package", on the 5.3L. The filters on the search engines were all over the place, and there are lots of inconsistencies with dealer ads. You have to really dig into each one, only to find out it had the wrong rear gear and none of the towing equipment.

One of the dead give aways, was the trailer brake controller on the dash board. The options for that equipment group includes a trailer brake controller. I'd click bait into an ad that said 'max tow pkg." look at the dash board picture, and then it wasn't there.

I was close on 2 or 3 LT's, 5.3L, Max Tow, etc. but never committed. this one is a good example of what I was looking for in a Suburban. I kept searching and found the Denali.

Would have been fine for how we move the Hallett around these days.

The trailer break controller and the air suspension if I remember correct for our 2015

 

[evantwheeler]

Its gonna be over the budget but if I was looking at Toyotas the land cruiser is supposed to come out this year.

It did and its essentially a rebadged 4 runner. LC200 series is the last real landcruiser imported to the US. It would fit the bill nicely for a family truckster except for the space requirements laid forth by the OP.

 

[Bobby_329]

It did and its essentially a rebadged 4 runner. LC200 series is the last real landcruiser imported to the US. It would fit the bill nicely for a family truckster except for the space requirements laid forth by the OP.

Oh I didn't realize it was that small.

 

[BHC Vic]

I’m in a Cherokee for work this week. Has 3 rows and the back is way bigger than I remember.

 

[Uncle Dave]

I'm going to be the contrarian and tell you to look at late model Nissan armada with the big tow kit.

It's got all the room you need and rides better than all but the newest stuff as it has IRS, and an 8500 lb tow rating with the big tow kit.

Its pulling power will land between a 5.3 and a 6.2. The VK56 is an awesome engine.

You should be able to find a clean one for a pretty good deal.

Biggest problem they have is the manifold crack, but you can permanently fix that with an aftermarket set of carb/smog legal headers.

 

[Backlash]

What about a mid 2000's Chevrolet 2500HD with a Duramax?? Starting to see the prices come down a little bit, and you'd have plenty of money leftover to upgrade the truck wherever you needed to.

 

[ChrisV]

Cadillac Escalade V. Fuk it! Yolo! Ball out!

 

[hallett21]

What about a mid 2000's Chevrolet 2500HD with a Duramax?? Starting to see the prices come down a little bit, and you'd have plenty of money leftover to upgrade the truck wherever you needed to.

Was trying to avoid having to pull over to get something out of the bed

 

[Bigbore500r]

Did you? Remember when you said the Sequoia would be “2500 lbs more loaded down” and his requirement is 2 adults and 2 kids . This isn’t an episode of My 600 lb Life here. They could fit all of that in either vehicle.

A 25 year old Tundra or Sequoia was never even on the short list (read the first post). Both will tow a Hallett 270 if needed however.

You are getting as bad a rivermobster

Whatever you say is correct

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

OK, your right

Your right

Whatever you say is correct

3rd time's the charm maybe? Hopefully?