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Keep trying desperate one!!!!! 😆
 

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The Commonwealth Court of Pennsylvania ruled in favor of The Amistad Project and Fulton County, Pennsylvania, and will allow the inspection of the Fulton County, PA Dominion Voting Machines to proceed.

State Democrats including the Attorney General Josh Shapiro and Secretary of State Veronica Degraffenreid sued to prevent the voting machine inspections earlier this month. Democrats have fought against audits in Pennsylvania and elsewhere since the 2020 election which is curious if they were so certain of their victory in 2020.

Keep exposing it patriots, cheaters never give up easily.

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The PA Supreme Court will smack it down with their 6-1 corrupt advantage, but the U.S. Supreme will have another chance to right their wrong after being able to witness the disaster of their cheating ways. I doubt they will, but don't ever let any corrupt scumbag ever tell you this election was ran fairly.

Trump won bigly and we all know it. 😝

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so the arizona audit was a complete failure so onto round 2, still using cyber ninjas?
 

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so the arizona audit was a complete failure so onto round 2, still using cyber ninjas?

Only a failure due to corrupt scumbag RINO's and their bought and paid for judges.

We will continue to expose them REGARDLESS and anyone with a brain that is curious, will realize the election was stolen and the crooks in the WH are illegitimate.

We're up to half the country at this point.
 

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Only a failure due to corrupt scumbag RINO's and their bought and paid for judges.

We will continue to expose them REGARDLESS and anyone with a brain that is curious, will realize the election was stolen and the crooks in the WH are illegitimate.

We're up to half the country at this point.
i want biden out as much as anyone but this stolen election conspiracy has yet to show one drop of credible kraken, am i wrong? each week its some new smoking gun that never goes anywhere. As a party we need to move on and get to work.
 

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i want biden out as much as anyone but this stolen election conspiracy has yet to show one drop of credible kraken, am i wrong? each week its some new smoking gun that never goes anywhere. As a party we need to move on and get to work.

The only worked that needs to be done is the fixing of the voting booth. The Democrats have screwed this country up so bad, that’s all that matters at this point. They can work on that and we can expose the criminals of the past.

And there’s been plenty of evidence even though the corrupt judicial system refuses to take the cases.
 

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i want biden out as much as anyone but this stolen election conspiracy has yet to show one drop of credible kraken, am i wrong? each week its some new smoking gun that never goes anywhere. As a party we need to move on and get to work.
I respectfully disagree. We are already in 3rd World Tinpot Dicktatorship Manchurian Candidate territory here, Sir. It's the Matrix. You want to accept it? C'mon Man, It's only been one year. The Demoncrats have persecuted, plus prosectuted President Donald J. Trump for what? 4 years plus 1 year and now another year. We call that a Clue. We ALL know what happened, and what "The Big Lie," really is. To walk around every day pretending like everything is normal? Move On?

The election was stolen, we saw it with our own eyes. People are pissed. Still. So. No. IDFTS...
 

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i want biden out as much as anyone but this stolen election conspiracy has yet to show one drop of credible kraken, am i wrong? each week its some new smoking gun that never goes anywhere. As a party we need to move on and get to work.
We call this a Clue. You may want to consider looking the other way. Or you can take a peek beyond the Matrix, at the Betrayal of the American People, as an Illegitimate fraudulently installed Tinpot Dicktator Mock President is in bed with the Cartels, facilitating the movement of Illegals into the interior of Our Country, as America is overrun.
Coming to a Town near You...


Which by the way, transporting these individuals is a Crime. But, since when does that ever stop them? Ask JFK...
 
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i want biden out as much as anyone but this stolen election conspiracy has yet to show one drop of credible kraken, am i wrong? each week its some new smoking gun that never goes anywhere. As a party we need to move on and get to work.
So. Not pikin on anyone. Respectfully attempting to discern just zactly where you are coming from. You are in the Minority, in your position. Your position is understandable. But. Say a Prick Ref calls a bad call, one that throws a game, against your Kid? Is that OK? No. Will it stand? Yep. Doesn't make it Right. "Move On?" IDTS. "Get to work?" Absolutely. Simplistic analysis. But. Fairness. Either you care, or you don't. Pretend things are Normal? Normalcy is in the rear view.

Take Pennsylvania. The Mail in ballots in that state have been ruled unconstitutional. So that changes the outcome in Penn. So, yes, you are wrong. The Lefty Penn. Supreme Court will likely rule against that, sending it to the US Supreme Court. In both Courts, it should be ruled on the Constitutioniality of the Question. Period. WE ALL can see, that that hasn't happened, alot, of late. Great example of your, "Never goes anywhere.." You can accept the Staus Quo. Free Country?

So. When will you have had enough? Fight back? Your Family separated and loading up into the Boxcars? Digging the mass graves trenches? Aww Hell. At least you'll still be standing, and have a shovel in your hand.
Let History, be your Guide.

PS, And, "Move On," from this? Well, that right there is some Sick Sick Shit. Again, IDFTS.
 
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Take Pennsylvania. The Mail in ballots in that state have been ruled unconstitutional. So that changes the outcome in Penn. So, yes, you are wrong. The Lefty Penn. Supreme Court will likely rule against that, sending it to the US Supreme Court. In both Courts, it should be ruled on the Constitutioniality of the Question. Period. WE ALL can see, that that hasn't happened, alot, of late. Great example of your, "Never goes anywhere.." You can accept the Staus Quo. Free Country?
Are you saying those mail in ballots are not from real americans excersising thier right to vote?
I most definitely am not in favor of any court taking those peoples votes away.
in fact stealing those votes away to change the outcome sounds kind of like stealing an election?

saying the method of placing your vote is un constitutional doesnt change the way the person voted
 

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Pay attention. The abitrary change to mail in voting in Pennsylvania was done unilaterally, and unconstitutionally under Pennsylvaniana law. The Courts in Pennsylvania just ruled that. Yesterday, Sir.. That means it is illegal. And so are ALL the Votes that were cast illegally. Try Harder...
 

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Pay attention. The abitrary change to mail in voting in Pennsylvania was done unilaterally, and unconstitutionally under Pennsylvaniana law. The Courts in Pennsylvania just ruled that. Yesterday, Sir.. That means it is illegal. And so are ALL the Votes that were cast illegally. Try Harder...
so again you want to take away those american's votes because how they were cast.
Not because they are in-accurate?
 

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Let's Debate Illegal Immigration next! So. Just Which Town near you is it we should tell ICE to send the planes to?
 

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Are you saying those mail in ballots are not from real americans excersising thier right to vote?
I most definitely am not in favor of any court taking those peoples votes away.
in fact stealing those votes away to change the outcome sounds kind of like stealing an election?

saying the method of placing your vote is un constitutional doesnt change the way the person voted

Up 800,000 in PA with 80% or so of the vote in, the country stops counting in 5 swing states in the middle of the night, which has never happened and months taken to get the results AND you think all those votes were from real voters? 😆
 

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so again you want to take away those american's votes because how they were cast.
Not because they are in-accurate?
You do know you can Google the definitions of words, Right?
 

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so again you want to take away those american's votes because how they were cast.
Not because they are in-accurate?
Criminally cast votes, yes! Absolutely. With !Mucho Gusto, Dear Sir.
 

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so again you want to take away those american's votes because how they were cast.
Not because they are in-accurate?
Up 800,000 in PA with 80% or so of the vote in, the country stops counting in 5 swing states in the middle of the night, which has never happened and months taken to get the results AND you think all those votes were from real voters? 😆
So 5 swings states,
100s of counties,
1000s of voting officials, polesters
conspired to stop counting and send in the false mail in ballots that another 200?? or so people spent all month obtaining falsifying and sneaking in?

so did all these people get together at a holiday inn and sort out the details?
add in the rigged voting machine theory and we can add on another 100 or so who would have had direct knowledge.

and yet not one shread of evidence or whistle blower? you did have the one drunken lady, i think from michigan, even Rudy was emberassed by her.

now you will say the courts are all in on it to by the time you are done half the country will have been directly involved

SHOW ME THE KRAKEN!
 

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Criminally cast votes, yes! Absolutely. With !Mucho Gusto, Dear Sir

Criminally cast WOW! we have gone to new levels now. Mail in voters in PA are criminals!
They were sent out to the voters who in good faith cast their votes.
Whether by mail, at the polls are scribbled in blood their vote is their vote.

IF after the fact the process is deemed in valid the problem is with the process not the votes.
 

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Criminally cast WOW! we have gone to new levels now. Mail in voters in PA are criminals!
They were sent out to the voters who in good faith cast their votes.
Whether by mail, at the polls are scribbled in blood their vote is their vote.

IF after the fact the process is deemed in valid the problem is with the process not the votes.
Hyperbole all you wish, doesn't change a thing. Just the messenger, Sir. I didn't make, or break, the Laws in Pensylvania. Just disseminating the Facts. That is all
 

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Hyperbole all you wish, doesn't changa a thing. Just the messenger, Sir. I didn't make, or break, the Laws in Pensylvania. Just disseminating the Facts. That is all
you are FINALLY correct, whether the mail in ballot process is dis allowed "after the fact" it doesn't change a thing. The people voted how they voted.
 

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Criminally cast WOW! we have gone to new levels now. Mail in voters in PA are criminals!
They were sent out to the voters who in good faith cast their votes.
Whether by mail, at the polls are scribbled in blood their vote is their vote.

IF after the fact the process is deemed in valid the problem is with the process not the votes.
With all due respect Kind Sir, The "Process," has already been deemed invalid. Pay attention. In Pensylvania, mail-in balloting is against the law. Pennsylvania Courts have ruled that that is so. Just like it was before the 2020 election. Whine all you want. The votes cast were illegal, under Pennsyvania law. I don't have a problen with that. If you do, well, do something about it, IRL.
 

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you are FINALLY correct, whether the mail in ballot process is dis allowed "after the fact" it doesn't change a thing. The people voted how they voted.
Please see the above reply, to you prior post. You really need to catch up. Again, with all due respect, Kind Sir.
I should have been more specific. "Your," 'Whining doesn't change a thing." But. Comprehension. Get Some!
 

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With all due respect Kind Sir, The "Process," has already been deemed invalid. Pay attention. In Pensylvania, mail-in balloting is against the law. Pennsylvania Courts have ruled that that is so. Just like it was before the 2020 election. Whine all you want. The votes cast were illegal, under Pennsyvania law. I don't have a problen with that. If you do, well, do something about it, IRL.
with all due respect to you to.
if the mail in system was illegal at the time, how did ballots get to the voters?
Crying foul after the fact is merely crying!
 

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IDK, maybe I should try an Allegorical story with Illegality, instead of Fairness? Let me know. I could also use a Time Machine story, if that would help. At your service, Sir.
 

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with all due respect to you to.
if the mail in system was illegal at the time, how did ballots get to the voters?
Crying foul after the fact is merely crying!
Covering ground already covered, In Pensylvania, wide open mail in balloting was illegal prior to the 2020 election. Act 77, changed the elections code/voting laws in Pensylvania, after Governor Tom Wolf signed the Bill into law, October 31, 2019.
This is Unconstitutional under the Constitution of the State of Pennsylvania. (Why the law was just struck down in the Courts in Pennsylvania.) FYI. Now you know.
 

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So 5 swings states,
100s of counties,
1000s of voting officials, polesters
conspired to stop counting and send in the false mail in ballots that another 200?? or so people spent all month obtaining falsifying and sneaking in?

so did all these people get together at a holiday inn and sort out the details?
add in the rigged voting machine theory and we can add on another 100 or so who would have had direct knowledge.

and yet not one shread of evidence or whistle blower? you did have the one drunken lady, i think from michigan, even Rudy was emberassed by her.

now you will say the courts are all in on it to by the time you are done half the country will have been directly involved

SHOW ME THE KRAKEN!

That’s not how it works, but it was a nice try. 😂
 

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Your premise of having one's vote taken away, is valid, and understood. The Individual's vote only becomes an issue when it is cast Unconstitutionally. Prior to October 31, 2019, mail in ballots requested under the law, were not a problem. It is only after the law was changed to one that violated the Constitution of the State of Pennsylvania, that open mail in balloting became an issue. An issue that the Court's have ruled, Violates the Pennsylvania state Constitution. Just Facts...
 

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That’s not how it works, but it was a nice try. 😂
Enlighten me, or was it "they' or the "liberals" or "the government" or "big blue"
People do things not pro nouns or entities so please explain to me how this is even remotely possible without mass compliance.

At the city level or even the county level it may be possible, MAYBE but not beyond a reasonable doubt.

Just my opinion, carry on!
 
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Your premise of having one's vote taken away, is valid, and understood. The Individual's vote only becomes an issue when it is cast Unconstitutionally. Prior to October 31, 2019, mail in ballots requested under the law, were not a problem. It is only after the law was changed to one that violated the Constitution of the State of Pennsylvania, that open mail in balloting became an issue. An issue that the Court's have ruled, Violates the Pennsylvania state Constitution. Just Facts...
I am fully aware of the PA situation and its timeline

The key in my opinion is that the law was changed, as you noted, at the time the mail in ballots were issued and received.
The voter voted in good faith he was abiding by the law. No democracy can ever allow those votes to be taken away "after the fact"

Do those women wanting abortions in Texas have recourse if those bans were overturned?
 

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What part of Unconstitutional,, do you not understand?
 

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What part of Unconstitutional,, do you not understand?
If the process is deemed unconstitutional then the process gets fixed.
The votes were cast legally at the time, they stand.
This is exactly why we have a supreme court, Even with the conservative majority, there is no doubt the concensus will be the vote stands.
They have tossed every ill conceived "argument" brought before them to date.
And please don't tell me the US supreme court is "in on it"

The constitution will never impede the very democracy it is intended to protect.
And taking away Americans votes is doing just that at the highest level.
A precedent that will not happen.

Now if the votes can be proven to be fraudulent, then the votes pay the price.
That bus left the station a long time ago in every state where actual votes were supposedly "fraudulent".
Oh wait when it got right to it the claim of fraud or conspiracy was never presented to the courts because it had no standing, no basis, no fact.
Yet outside the court houses Rudy and his crew were saying just that to fire up the far right base, it worked i will give him that!

WE the republicans are fighting a battle in PA that will not be won or change anything,
Nor will continuing to claim the election is stolen, which IMO was never true, get us anywhere as well.

The milk is spilled-mop it up and make hay!
As someone on here said, driving in the rear view is just asking for disaster.

Just my opinion, which on this forum most likely IS in the minority, doesn't change how I feel or think.
It is NOT the majority of the country however.

Now the ground work being laid at the state level to rig the next election is well underway and documented.
We should have been much quieter like the dems!!!!

I am tired, I did enjoy the back and forth, feel free to burn me at the stake.
I will check back in at some point to take my lashes.

TO BE CLEAR I AM A CONSERVATIVE WHO DESPISES LIBERAL HANDOUTS AND MOST SOCIAL PROGRAMS AND STRONGLY BELIEVES IN IMMIGRATION REFORM

I just wont stand behind a call to action on what i believe to be false claims.
Pretty sure we can win on the facts and issues IF we get to work.
 
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Absolutely your perogative Kind Sir. Your opinion is not invalid. I get where you are coming from, and your right to Debate your position. An Interesting dilemma indeed. Will an Unconstitutional vote still stand? We will see!

Good luck on that Howard build indeed!
I'd be looking forward to that for sure!
 

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I am fully aware of the PA situation and its timeline

The key in my opinion is that the law was changed, as you noted, at the time the mail in ballots were issued and received.
The voter voted in good faith he was abiding by the law. No democracy can ever allow those votes to be taken away "after the fact"

The Secretary of State and the AG do NOT have the right to change election law, it MUST be done through the legislature of PA and therefore WAS NOT changed. Article 77 of 2019 was rightfully declared unconstitutional, as it should have been by the 6 to1 Democratic PA Supreme Court back in 2020.

The PA constitution allows absentee voting if you're unable to vote in-person (e.g. out of state on election day). Act 77 allowed for no-excuse absentee voting. PA does not have early in-person voting; only absentee and on election day., but any change to the law, MUST be done through the state legislature branch.

Now you can claim all those votes were legit, but we all know the easiest way to commit fraud in an election is through the mail. Judge after judge throughout this nation REFUSED to listen to the merits of the cases, including the U.S. Supreme Court and when a few did, they simply judge shopped to overturn them.

You don't need to cheat in 100's of counties with the margins of "victory" Joey had, you only need key players in high places within the state and a couple large counties that precipitated the steal.

Do you remember what caused the stopping of the vote counting in Georgia on election night?
 

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Absolutely your perogative Kind Sir. Your opinion is not invalid. I get where you are coming from, and your right to Debate your position. An Interesting dilemma indeed. Will an Unconstitutional vote still stand? We will see!

Good luck on that Howard build indeed!
I'd be looking forward to that for sure!

It WILL be the most substantial impactful supreme court case in the history of our country, that is a fact!

One thing we can all agree on is if we could just go back to 2016 and learn from all of our transgressions we would be way better off

BUT!!

Thanks for the Howard comment, we are about as excited as we have been since our first kid!
 

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The milk is spilled-mop it up and make hay!
As someone on here said, driving in the rear view is just asking for disaster.

I just wont stand behind a call to action on what i believe to be false claims.
Pretty sure we can win on the facts and issues IF we get to work.

Not learning from history is the disaster.

We are working on the future and while we do that, we can expose the past criminality, but if you don't fix the voting booth, our work for the future is mute.

The R's & D's wanted Trump out, plain and simple. They are both scum and have worked together for decades. Trump was a threat and they removed him illegally with the help of the corrupt courts and the corrupt voting process. You keep working on the future, we'll keep working on keeping your work fruitful. 👍
 

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The Secretary of State and the AG do NOT have the right to change election law, it MUST be done through the legislature of PA and therefore WAS NOT changed. Article 77 of 2019 was rightfully declared unconstitutional, as it should have been by the 6 to1 Democratic PA Supreme Court back in 2020.

The PA constitution allows absentee voting if you're unable to vote in-person (e.g. out of state on election day). Act 77 allowed for no-excuse absentee voting. PA does not have early in-person voting; only absentee and on election day., but any change to the law, MUST be done through the state legislature branch.

Now you can claim all those votes were legit, but we all know the easiest way to commit fraud in an election is through the mail. Judge after judge throughout this nation REFUSED to listen to the merits of the cases, including the U.S. Supreme Court and when a few did, they simply judge shopped to overturn them.

You don't need to cheat in 100's of counties with the margins of "victory" Joey had, you only need key players in high places within the state and a couple large counties that precipitated the steal.

Do you remember what caused the stopping of the vote counting in Georgia on election night?
I understand your argument and quite frankly it is the only argument in this whole stolen election debacle that has any merit.

But if the voter was allowed to utilize mail in balloting that is the fault of the legislature not the voter.
The constitution will not strip americans of thier votes.

"Judge after judge throughout this nation REFUSED to listen to the merits of the cases, including the U.S. Supreme Court and when a few did, they simply judge shopped to overturn them."

This takes me back to the unprecedented size necessary to facilitate this conspiracy.
Are you really saying all the judges involved throughout the country are complicit?
I remember some serious redistricting? of circuit courts to get these arguments in front of so called trump justices and still nothing.

"You don't need to cheat in 100's of counties with the margins of "victory" Joey had, you only need key players in high places within the state and a couple large counties that precipitated the steal."

But without knowing exactly how the elction margins will be and where, how do you just have a plan in just the exact area needed without having preemptively prepared everyone in every location where the outcome may have needed abit of a "fudge" this is not possible

"Do you remember what caused the stopping of the vote counting in Georgia on election night?"

You know as well as I do, like statistics, there is an answer for everything and every point of view on this one.

I promised wedgy I was out and now I have gone back on my word!!
 

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Not learning from history is the disaster.

We are working on the future and while we do that, we can expose the past criminality, but if you don't fix the voting booth, our work for the future is mute.

The R's & D's wanted Trump out, plain and simple. They are both scum and have worked together for decades. Trump was a threat and they removed him illegally with the help of the corrupt courts and the corrupt voting process. You keep working on the future, we'll keep working on keeping your work fruitful. 👍
I am willing to agree to that I suppose, predicated of course on the fact that we each can voice our opinions as we feel!
I am sure you agree

ADIOS!
 

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"Do you remember what caused the stopping of the vote counting in Georgia on election night?"

You know as well as I do, like statistics, there is an answer for everything and every point of view on this one.

I promised wedgy I was out and now I have gone back on my word!!

So when they kick EVERYBODY out of the counting room on a false pretense of a pipe burst, pull ballots from under a table, run them multiple times and continue counting while EVERYONE is gone, you don't consider that to have any merit? 😆

How about all the deleted footage at the drop boxes that were required to be video taped by law, anything there?
 

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No worries Howard!! Debate is healthy!

I find it fascinating all the liberties that were taken, so fast and loose with the 2020 election. Shame, but. Uncharted Territory is fun to explore!
I truly believe we all want basically the same thing, secured free and fair elections. We all didn't do this, it was done to us.
I am just as so done with all the BS, like sooo yesterday. But we must persevere. As I know you are too.
Strength and Continued Success!
Godspeed all Patriots!
 

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so again you want to take away those american's votes because how they were cast.
Not because they are in-accurate?


If those votes are unconstitutional, then does that not mean by default that the votes are inaccurate?

Kinda like illegal alien means they broke the law.
 

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Criminally cast WOW! we have gone to new levels now. Mail in voters in PA are criminals!
They were sent out to the voters who in good faith cast their votes.
Whether by mail, at the polls are scribbled in blood their vote is their vote.

IF after the fact the process is deemed in valid the problem is with the process not the votes.


You in good faith buy a stolen car, your still guilty of receiving stolen property
 

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You in good faith buy a stolen car, your still guilty of receiving stolen property
If you bought that stolen car in good faith and did not realize at the time that it was stolen, you have not committed any crime. You are a victim and are now out the money used to buy that stolen car. The vehicle will be returned to the registered owner once its recovered....and your money is gone.
 
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If those votes are unconstitutional, then does that not mean by default that the votes are inaccurate?

Kinda like illegal alien means they broke the law.
the votes aren't un-constitutional, the voters were made to believe it was totally legit to vote by mail.
its not like the whole rest of the country doesn't have mail in ballots.

the PROCCESS is deemed un constitutional at the state level.
your fellow americans would have cast the same ballot regardless of the process so the outcome would be the same
changing the process does not change people's minds does it?

taking away the actual votes would be a nail in the coffin of democracy that could never be pulled.
if you dont see that, i dont know what to tell you.
 

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You in good faith buy a stolen car, your still guilty of receiving stolen property
No. Because part of the elements of that crime are knowing, or in some cases where a reasonable person should know, it was stolen at the time of purchase. Think 90K thousand dollar car being sold on offer up for 10K.

That is where the reasonableness part of this whole deal comes in. Is it reasonable to turn off all voting registration data in the middle of night, then open them up with a ton of votes all for one candidate? Is it reasonable to kick everyone out of a polling place, then pull ballots out of a hidden location and scan them multiple times over and over again? This really isn't that hard.

It regards to it being found Unconstitutional. In my word, that is where cases get thrown out completely. Not... oh well, we'll fix it for next time.

We are living in upside down crazy world right now.
 

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the votes aren't un-constitutional, the voters were made to believe it was totally legit to vote by mail.
its not like the whole rest of the country doesn't have mail in ballots.

the PROCCESS is deemed un constitutional at the state level.
your fellow americans would have cast the same ballot regardless of the process so the outcome would be the same
changing the process does not change people's minds does it?

taking away the actual votes would be a nail in the coffin of democracy that could never be pulled.
if you dont see that, i dont know what to tell you.
If they cast those votes in good faith and only did so because they thought they could, you might have an argument. The real issue which you are skating around is Ballot harvesting and votes made for people instead of them casting their votes. Or you could even consider in valid registration of voters. Much bigger issue than simply mailing in a ballot.

Simple question for you here. Do you believe we should be able to verify who is voting in these elections?
 

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The fraudulent mail in votes are the problem. That Ignorant Dumb AF Bitch Gropy Joe just nominated to the SC ruled mail in ballots don't even have to be witnessed. WTF? Universal mail in voting is ripe for fraud. Legit votes are legit, So what's the problem with making sure votes are legit? Why the nationwide Dem State push to expand mail in voting without safeguards? Why should a vote be allowed to be cast without verification of the Identity of the Voter? That's just stupid.
 
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