Parker by the Dam Construction

[TCHB]

I was in Parker yesterday and noticed not much going on with construction site up river on the river. Looks like they took the mountain down and flattened it. This has been going on a couple of years. Sure looks bad from the California side of the river.

 

[cofooter]

I was in Parker yesterday and noticed not much going on with construction site up river on the river. Looks like they took the mountain down and flattened it. This has been going on a couple of years. Sure looks bad from the California side of the river.

Thats a sore subject, looks like shit!

 

[redone76]

Looks bad from any point on the river...


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[TCHB]

Has construction stopped. Seems like a mess.

 

[2Driver]

Someone reached up the rivers ass and pulled out its colon. La Paz county whores are happy they made a bunch cash off permits. I guess the mantra is, Fuck the river, who gives a shit they have their cash - whoopee.

This was one of a few reasons why we sold.

 

[Taboma]

So here's a snip from Google earth Jan 2015

Here's two from June 2017

I've only seen it from the road, had no idea the project encompassed that large of an area.

 

[Groper]

WOW that is f**ked up Im surprised the county let this happen, wasn't there some kind of Desert endangered critter living on those cliffs
IMO this was the best part of the strip

 

[Classic Daycruiser]

"We were making progress until we found that big rock."

I'm sure it will look great when its done, with palm trees and hardscape. The road they cut at the south edge of the property has some great access to the sand bar.

 

[Paul65k]

WOW that is f**ked up Im surprised the county let this happen, wasn't there some kind of Desert endangered critter living on those cliffs
IMO this was the best part of the strip

Seriously?????.............We are talking about La Paz county here

 

[reb939]

Seriously?????.............We are talking about La Paz county here View attachment 616154

Forget La Paz County. How in the world did the Army Corps of Engineers allow all that rubble to fall into the river?

 

[2Driver]

Forget La Paz County. How in the world did the Army Corps of Engineers allow all that rubble to fall into the river?

This is what I know from living so close to this hemorrhoid and being on our HOA Board.

The rules for the river as I recall speaking with Army Corp of Engineers (ACE) is that the developer can have 1 square yard below the high water mark or something to that effect. The rocks that rolled all the way into the river were removed by the grading Co. If you look, they are right at the rule for what they can do and ACE is all over them.

La Paz county as Paul pointed out, is a whole different game. Essentially they went down with a set of plans and the La Paz engineer at Planning and Development basically rubber stamped it. It seems the county was star struck with the potential revenue. I pulled the plans about a year ago and it doesn't look like the plans in my opinion. Last time I checked they only have a grading permit, nothing else, but that may have changed since I checked last. 65 homes were on the grading plan and it was tight

ACE will not let them put in anything on the river other than a courtesy dock and one small ramp so no cabanas or private slips from what I was told by ACE. The ramp will not be usable most of the time due to water level. They said they want to dredge a channel from the ramp out to the main channel, but ACE told me it would take years to go through all the environmental impact studies, huge dollars to conduct and it would most likely never be approved. In addition, La Paz County told me ADOT is supposed to require them to widen highway 95 at the developer's costs. Lastly they are supposed to bring in a temporary sewage disposal facility (the facility is in trailers in combo with ponds) if the buckskin sewer district is not up there by the time they are ready for occupancy #1.

My neighbor owned this Mountain for many years. They had 12 home sites cut into it with plans to build at one time. At the time it was all La Paz would allow them to build and he was the kind of guy that would have done it right. His widow is applaud at what happened, as is everyone.

Do the math by the time they are done I bet a lot will be $400,000, plus home build costs or heavy mo land lease and heavy HOA fees, but no docks and no water access to really speak of. My guess is that the project peters out due to cost over runs or demand for it, but who knows. I suspect it will be down graded to even smaller parcels and many more of them.

 

[TCHB]

This is what I know from living so close to this hemorrhoid and being on our HOA Board.

The rules for the river as I recall speaking with Army Corp of Engineers (ACE) is that the developer can have 1 square yard below the high water mark or something to that effect. The rocks that rolled all the way into the river were removed by the grading Co. If you look, they are right at the rule for what they can do and ACE is all over them.

La Paz county as Paul pointed out, is a whole different game. Essentially they went down with a set of plans and the La Paz engineer at Planning and Development basically rubber stamped it. It seems the county was star struck with the potential revenue. I pulled the plans about a year ago and it doesn't look like the plans in my opinion. Last time I checked they only have a grading permit, nothing else, but that may have changed since I checked last. 65 homes were on the grading plan and it was tight

ACE will not let them put in anything on the river other than a courtesy dock and one small ramp so no cabanas or private slips from what I was told by ACE. The ramp will not be usable most of the time due to water level. They said they want to dredge a channel from the ramp out to the main channel, but ACE told me it would take years to go through all the environmental impact studies, huge dollars to conduct and it would most likely never be approved. In addition, La Paz County told me ADOT is supposed to require them to widen highway 95 at the developer's costs. Lastly they are supposed to bring in a temporary sewage disposal facility (the facility is in trailers in combo with ponds) if the buckskin sewer district is not up there by the time they are ready for occupancy #1.

My neighbor owned this Mountain for many years. They had 12 home sites cut into it with plans to build at one time. At the time it was all La Paz would allow them to build and he was the kind of guy that would have done it right. His widow is applaud at what happened, as is everyone.

Do the math by the time they are done I bet a lot will be $400,000, plus home build costs or heavy mo land lease and heavy HOA fees, but no docks and no water access to really speak of. My guess is that the project peters out due to cost over runs or demand for it, but who knows. I suspect it will be down graded to even smaller parcels and many more of them.

Boy they really screwed up a nice part of the river!!

 

[Wakebrdr94]

WOW that is f**ked up Im surprised the county let this happen, wasn't there some kind of Desert endangered critter living on those cliffs
IMO this was the best part of the strip

You can do anything in AZ, that’s what makes it great. Notice it happened on the AZ side, not the CA.

 

[Wheeler]

 

[Echo Lodge]

 

[2Driver]

LOL thats the first laugh Ive gotten over this

 

[ikester]

My opinion - La Paz County Building/Community Development Department is in way over their head on this project and or type of work. They are not geared for this and is way outside their scope and knowledge to approve/administer. The county's development guidelines/standards and code are rudimentary at best as related to this type of project.

What has been done to the shoreline/hillside along the river for this development is hideous. What you see along the river looks like and reminds me of a landfill site.

 

[TCHB]

That area of the river was beautiful with high cliffs. Now it does look like a landfill site.

 

[2Driver]

My opinion - La Paz County Building/Community Development Department is in way over their head on this project and or type of work. They are not geared for this and is way outside their scope and knowledge to approve/administer. The county's development guidelines/standards and code are rudimentary at best as related to this type of project.

What has been done to the shoreline/hillside along the river for this development is hideous. What you see along the river looks like and reminds me of a landfill site.

Lol trying to find common sense and good judgement in Parker is like trying to find a lost ring at the beach. It's there somewhere, but you could spend your life trying to find it.

 

[Wheeler]

Lol trying to find common sense and good judgement in Parker is like trying to find a lost ring at the beach. It's there somewhere, but you could spend your life trying to find it.

Did you just call us a bunch of Parkabillies?

 

[GOTTBoat]

LOL thats the first laugh Ive gotten over this

So if the developer lines the shore with docks like in your sig pic would that make it better?

 

[2Driver]

So if the developer lines the shore with docks like in your sig pic would that make it better?

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You missed the point, for the purchase price, what ever it ends up being there, you wont even be getting a dock or cabana. Besides, who in their right mind wouldn't mind boat slips with the original sensible development that didn't push a Mountain into the river.

Did you just call us a bunch of Parkabillies?

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I kind of thought Jed always had his shit together. ​

 

[rivermobster]

So if the developer lines the shore with docks like in your sig pic would that make it better?

There is no way to make it better at this point. That is the point you are missing.

I'm no tree hugger by any means, but some things should stay as they are.

Keep that over developing bullshit in Havasu where it belongs.

 

[PaPaG]

Progress folks progress....there's no stopping it as I was taught a long time ago...they can ruin any part of the river with enough money paid out....

 

[TCHB]

They are building some nice homes behind our home in Henderson. Notice the dark hill in front of the homes. They returned all that to natural state and will return all disturbed area to natural before homes go for sale. I was amazed they brought in all the brush rocks and irrigation to return it to normal. It should really look nice when completed. The new area is called Black Rock.

 

[BoatCop]

It's always the ones who already got theirs, bitching about the ones trying to get it now. Yes, that was a fairly scenic area. Just like the entire river was scenic before it was bulldozed for each and every development out there. If the guy can buy HIS land and develop it with HIS money, who are you (generic you) to tell him he can't or shouldn't.

I'm sure the hills above the Beach in Manhattan Beach were absolutely stunning before people bought and built there. Same with Vail, CO, or pretty much everywhere in the U.S.

Want to look at pretty cliffs? Go to the Grand Canyon, or just do a 180 from here and stare at the CA side.

 

[hallett21]

It's always the ones who already got theirs, bitching about the ones trying to get it now. Yes, that was a fairly scenic area. Just like the entire river was scenic before it was bulldozed for each and every development out there. If the guy can buy HIS land and develop it with HIS money, who are you (generic you) to tell him he can't or shouldn't.

I'm sure the hills above the Beach in Manhattan Beach were absolutely stunning before people bought and built there. Same with Vail, CO, or pretty much everywhere in the U.S.

Want to look at pretty cliffs? Go to the Grand Canyon, or just do a 180 from here and stare at the CA side.

Glad someone finally said this


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[2Driver]

So buy what ever and do what ever you please. Fucking genius.

 

[rivermobster]

It's always the ones who already got theirs, bitching about the ones trying to get it now. Yes, that was a fairly scenic area. Just like the entire river was scenic before it was bulldozed for each and every development out there. If the guy can buy HIS land and develop it with HIS money, who are you (generic you) to tell him he can't or shouldn't.

I'm sure the hills above the Beach in Manhattan Beach were absolutely stunning before people bought and built there. Same with Vail, CO, or pretty much everywhere in the U.S.

Want to look at pretty cliffs? Go to the Grand Canyon, or just do a 180 from here and stare at the CA side.

I ain't got shit! LoL

 

[BajaT]

It's always the ones who already got theirs, bitching about the ones trying to get it now. Yes, that was a fairly scenic area. Just like the entire river was scenic before it was bulldozed for each and every development out there. If the guy can buy HIS land and develop it with HIS money, who are you (generic you) to tell him he can't or shouldn't.

I'm sure the hills above the Beach in Manhattan Beach were absolutely stunning before people bought and built there. Same with Vail, CO, or pretty much everywhere in the U.S.

Want to look at pretty cliffs? Go to the Grand Canyon, or just do a 180 from here and stare at the CA side.

I don't disagree assuming it all happens. I think we are very close to seeing the final product however. He can stop at anytime and leave the nice eyesore in otherwise most scenic part of the river that hundreds of thousand enjoy each year. There is no reversing the damage. His land, he can do what he wants. No "improvement" will be made, as it will go unfinished. If someone moved in next to you and created a huge eyesore and walked away, wouldn't you be bummed?....

 

[Wheeler]

I ain't got shit! LoL

No shit, that'll be a first.

Life would suck if those hills still stood.

 

[Wheeler]

Boy they really screwed up a nice part of the river!!

Yes, they did!

I wonder if Mouzer has ever stayed here.

 

[28Eliminator]

It's always the ones who already got theirs, bitching about the ones trying to get it now. Yes, that was a fairly scenic area. Just like the entire river was scenic before it was bulldozed for each and every development out there. If the guy can buy HIS land and develop it with HIS money, who are you (generic you) to tell him he can't or shouldn't.

I'm sure the hills above the Beach in Manhattan Beach were absolutely stunning before people bought and built there. Same with Vail, CO, or pretty much everywhere in the U.S.

Want to look at pretty cliffs? Go to the Grand Canyon, or just do a 180 from here and stare at the CA side.

Nailed it. You don't want something to be developed, then you better buy it.

Parker is lined with homes, trailer parks, Bars etc... on the water.

 

[rivermobster]

Nailed it. You don't want something to be developed, then you better buy it.

Parker is lined with homes, trailer parks, Bars etc... on the water.

The golden rule applies...

He who has the gold, makes the rules!

 

[TCHB]

It's always the ones who already got theirs, bitching about the ones trying to get it now. Yes, that was a fairly scenic area. Just like the entire river was scenic before it was bulldozed for each and every development out there. If the guy can buy HIS land and develop it with HIS money, who are you (generic you) to tell him he can't or shouldn't.

I'm sure the hills above the Beach in Manhattan Beach were absolutely stunning before people bought and built there. Same with Vail, CO, or pretty much everywhere in the U.S.

Want to look at pretty cliffs? Go to the Grand Canyon, or just do a 180 from here and stare at the CA side.

Try dumping that crap on the sand in Manhattan Beach. You would be in jail by the time the dust settled.

 

[Rvrluvr]

We are obviously gonna need a bigger box of suckitup straws

 

[BoatCop]

What's the deal with a picture of some old Italian guy crying?

There used to be a sign on the hill behind the Casino that said:

"Ancient Indian Artifact Area. No Trespassing"

When I first saw it back in the '60s I said; Watch. Someday there'll be a sign there that says:

"Ancient Indian Artifact Hotel & Casino"

 

[Wheeler]

What's the deal with a picture of some old Italian guy crying?

Should I have used an old Irish Italian in place of a simple Italian?

 

[Classic Daycruiser]

Do the math by the time they are done I bet a lot will be $400,000, plus home build costs or heavy mo land lease and heavy HOA fees, but no docks and no water access to really speak of. My guess is that the project peters out due to cost over runs or demand for it, but who knows. I suspect it will be down graded to even smaller parcels and many more of them.

This is the perfect spot, if you own a Schiada. It's almost a no Brainer.

 

[BajaT]

Nosy, decent source reports that they have pulled out. Water, sewer plant, turn signal, etc too much $$$. Hope you like the new scenery they left. No reason to be upset, it's his property, he can do what he wants............

 

[Ziggy]

Nosy, decent source reports that they have pulled out. Water, sewer plant, turn signal, etc too much $$$. Hope you like the new scenery they left. No reason to be upset, it's his property, he can do what he wants............

Bnag!

 

[Icky]

People were upset about building houses there, I wonder how they'll feel now

 

[grumpy88]

This can't be true . I know nothing about building but is there not some kind of bond put up with the county to garuntee a project of that size be seen to compleshiant ? Crazy sad if this is true

 

[Ziggy]

This can't be true . I know nothing about building but is there not some kind of bond put up with the county to garuntee a project of that size be seen to compleshiant ? Crazy sad if this is true

Similar thing happened at the Terraces, the graded area off the 95 between Bill Williams bridge and Cattail Cove.

 

[RiverDave]

Similar thing happened at the Terraces, the graded area off the 95 between Bill Williams bridge and Cattail Cove.

Always wondered about that

 

[NicPaus]

Similar thing happened at the Terraces, the graded area off the 95 between Bill Williams bridge and Cattail Cove.

Cal city and many other places as well. Wonder what the squatter out front with the corvette is going to do. Move inside and enjoy it all to himself.

 

[c_land]

Did this builder have a contract to sell that material that came off that hill? I drove by a couple weeks ago and it doesn't seem at all feasible to do all that work without having some arrangement for selling the material.

 

[grumpy88]

Did this builder have a contract to sell that material that came off that hill? I drove by a couple weeks ago and it doesn't seem at all feasible to do all that work without having some arrangement for selling the material.

The material was pushed over the hill in the river . As much as I hate the whole project I hope somebody steps in and finishes it now .

 

[rvrrun]

Cal city and many other places as well. Wonder what the squatter out front with the corvette is going to do. Move inside and enjoy it all to himself.

Most of that stuff was gone when Milky and I were up a few weeks ago.

 

[c_land]

The material was pushed over the hill in the river . As much as I hate the whole project I hope somebody steps in and finishes it now .

Sounds like a clean water act violation to me. Surprised the Army Corps of Engineers didn't have anything to say about this. They wouldn't even issue a new dock permit on the needles part of the river a few years ago.