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Something going on. RIP Chester B...

The only thing we control. Reactions, our Free Will. "I think, therefore I am. I think."

 

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The magazine "Science and Invention" in 1922 published an article about Plauson's invention.

A balloon made of aluminum was filled with hydrogen or helium and at an altitude of 270m produced a direct current of 400 volts at 1.8 amperes. Two balloons with a capacitor battery produced 81 kilowatts of power in a day.

As the author writes: "Its output is very great...There is no doubt that this invention will soon be in general use throughout the world...especially in rural areas and wherever water power is scarce.

The time is not far off when almost all of our energy will come from the atmosphere...It is the cheapest form of energy known, much cheaper than water power...no destructive thunderstorms occur near such aerial power plants because the balloons quickly discharge the largest lightning cloud, safely and silently through grounded spark gaps."

An invention capable of providing cheap and affordable electricity to the entire world. That's probably why it has been forgotten.
 

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The magazine "Science and Invention" in 1922 published an article about Plauson's invention.

A balloon made of aluminum was filled with hydrogen or helium and at an altitude of 270m produced a direct current of 400 volts at 1.8 amperes. Two balloons with a capacitor battery produced 81 kilowatts of power in a day.

As the author writes: "Its output is very great...There is no doubt that this invention will soon be in general use throughout the world...especially in rural areas and wherever water power is scarce.

The time is not far off when almost all of our energy will come from the atmosphere...It is the cheapest form of energy known, much cheaper than water power...no destructive thunderstorms occur near such aerial power plants because the balloons quickly discharge the largest lightning cloud, safely and silently through grounded spark gaps."

An invention capable of providing cheap and affordable electricity to the entire world. That's probably why it has been forgotten.
It's not magic, it's called static electricity, the same thing that zaps you when you rub your shoes across the car and touch the metal on a light switch.

Here, if you're actually interested --- Pretty cool sketch of the hundreds of collecting balloons required to provide about 149KW. http://www.mareasistemi.com/DIDATTI...ospheric Electricity (Articles & patents).htm

Problem with static electricity is then collecting it and converting it to useful power. As it states, some times unpredictable spikes would occur endangering personnel and equipment.

Interesting concept regardless.

Our energy does come from the atmosphere, it's from the Sun. 😁
 

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Tesla said.... Energy is in our system..

Oh for fuck's sake Rick 🤣
Tesla said what we all now know as being obvious. He loved static electricity, his Tesla Coil is based off static electricity, as was his entire caged laboratory he used for experimentation demonstrations. Back then, static electricity was magical, it was mystical, it scared the living crap out of people.
But not today.
Go on Amazon and buy a Tesla Coil, you'll have loads of fun making your hair stand on end. Your grandkids will love, you just like the neighbor kids loved watching me play with my high voltage Jacobs Ladder. Their fathers were upset because it raised havoc with their over the air tv watching. 😡

What you should be thankful to Tesla for is AC 3 phase power, that's his one invention we all use daily, world wide.

You do realize that lightning is another form of static electricity, Ben Franklin tried to harness that shit :oops:
So do golfers on occasion 😵 And it's 100% Free 🥴

Try to harness that blue bolt that shoots from your finger tip on a dry Santa Ana weather day, best be quick though.

There's not a person on this planet, with the exception of a few folks living in Puget Sound, that aren't aware there's free energy in the atmosphere.

The problem isn't knowing it's there, the problem is safely harnessing it, collecting it, then converting it into useful current. High voltage alone does not equate by itself to useable power.
High voltage creates an arc that fires fuel in your cylinders, but it won't power your home. That is why it won't kill you if you are unfortune enough to take a hit from it. It lacks current.

It's cool, but it ain't magic.
 

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no agencies trying to hide technology which Nikola Tesla... exposed...

they wouldn't do that?.



""eather Energy/ atmospheric Energy perhaps, the higher you go into the air, i think 100m you get a high voltage (10 000 V i think) with no current. so perhaps take it high enough, take the high volt charge down convert it a low DC perhaps... and earth the other chathode. tesla said something like ( atmosfere is the - the earth +) not sure... look it up"""
 
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why was the government afraid of Tesla...
 

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@Taboma , ever been on a helicopter lift, and the riggers let the headache ball hit the ground? Static electricity on the job site is interesting :oops:

Seems with all the high tech brainiacs, someone would be able to harness static electricity into a capacitor and somehow bleed it off into a battery bank.
 

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@Taboma , ever been on a helicopter lift, and the riggers let the headache ball hit the ground? Static electricity on the job site is interesting :oops:

Seems with all the high tech brainiacs, someone would be able to harness static electricity into a capacitor and somehow bleed it off into a battery bank.
Static electricity is certainly interesting, it is however the arch-enemy of modern circuits and computer chips.
If I recall correctly, the SR-71 with it's special coating, that post-flight it required being discharged prior to anybody touching it or the pilot exiting, least it discharge through them. I know large planes, perhaps small as well now, have small wires off the trailing edge of the wings to discharge static created by the plane moving through the air.
In today's world of chips, great extremes are taken, with special mats, shoes, and environments trying to protect the sensitive components from it's high voltage discharges.

I've read various explanations as to why it's not worth collecting. But the one example I tried to convey to Mr Rick is probably key is the "Worth" aspect. The basic problem is voltage alone doesn't = power (E), (E X I = P) and with static electricity sufficient Current (I) is the key missing component.

I'll quote this more technical explanation from an electrical engineer, who's also an electrostatic hobbyist. His hobby is building static generators and collectors.

"A single AA battery contains about 1500 joules of chemical fuel, which turns into electrical energy as the battery is powering your devices. But if you scuff on a rug, so that you build up a really wicked charge (say, 5,000 volts,) then you only have stored about 3/1000 of a joule of electrostatic energy. Only 0.003 Joule.

That’s the problem. Even a feeble double-A cell contains nearly a million times more energy than the nastiest car-door spark you’ve ever made.

And even a classroom-style VandeGraaff generator only puts out a few watts total. 250,000V x 20 microamps equals FIVE WATTS. And that’s for a fairly powerful VDG, on a dry winter day. You could step down the 250KV and use it to charge a tiny battery for an hour, then run a bright LED flashlight."

Did you read "DRY WINTER DAY" --- this is why static can be more prevalent at altitude. It's often above the clouds, moisture and it's cold.

You want to have some fun, get a VandeGraaff Generator, you'll be a hit at all the parties. 😁

Rick @rmarion , is under the mistaken belief that this concept of harnessing "Free Energy from the atmosphere" is some mystical magic for powering the world that's been hidden from the masses by the evil big energy companies.

In truth, it's been researched since it's discovery and Ben Franklin had even created an Electrostatic Motor that was powered from this unknown (At the time) energy source.

Here's an interesting article from a 1971 issue of Popular Science Magazine: http://rexresearch.com/jefimenko/jefimenko.htm
There's pictures of B. Franklins generator.
 
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Static electricity is certainly interesting, it is however the arch-enemy of modern circuits and computer chips.
If I recall correctly, the SR-71 with it's special coating, that post-flight it required being discharged prior to anybody touching it or the pilot exiting, least it discharge through them. I know large planes, perhaps small as well now, have small wires off the trailing edge of the wings to discharge static created by the plane moving through the air.
In today's world of chips, great extremes are taken, with special mats, shoes, and environments trying to protect the sensitive components from it's high voltage discharges.

I've read various explanations as to why it's not worth collecting. But the one example I tried to convey to Mr Rick is probably key is the "Worth" aspect. The basic problem is voltage alone doesn't = power (E), (E X I = P) and with static electricity sufficient Current (I) is the key missing component.

I'll quote this more technical explanation from an electrical engineer, who's also an electrostatic hobbyist. His hobby is building static generators and collectors.

"A single AA battery contains about 1500 joules of chemical fuel, which turns into electrical energy as the battery is powering your devices. But if you scuff on a rug, so that you build up a really wicked charge (say, 5,000 volts,) then you only have stored about 3/1000 of a joule of electrostatic energy. Only 0.003 Joule.

That’s the problem. Even a feeble double-A cell contains nearly a million times more energy than the nastiest car-door spark you’ve ever made.

And even a classroom-style VandeGraaff generator only puts out a few watts total. 250,000V x 20 microamps equals FIVE WATTS. And that’s for a fairly powerful VDG, on a dry winter day. You could step down the 250KV and use it to charge a tiny battery for an hour, then run a bright LED flashlight."

Did you read "DRY WINTER DAY" --- this is why static can be more prevalent at altitude. It's often above the clouds, moisture and it's cold.

You want to have some fun, get a VandeGraaff Generator, you'll be a hit at all the parties. 😁

Rick @rmarion , is under the mistaken belief that this concept of harnessing "Free Energy from the atmosphere" is some mystical magic for powering the world that's been hidden from the masses by the evil big energy companies.

In truth, it's been researched since it's discovery and Ben Franklin had even created an Electrostatic Motor that was powered from this unknown (At the time) energy source.

Here's an interesting article from a 1971 issue of Popular Science Magazine: http://rexresearch.com/jefimenko/jefimenko.htm
There's pictures of B. Franklins generator.
Static electricity to me is like a car's ignition coil. It shows the difference between high voltage and low amperage. For us lower spectrum folks, one hurts, the other kills.
 

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Static electricity to me is like a car's ignition coil. It shows the difference between high voltage and low amperage. For us lower spectrum folks, one hurts, the other kills.
True, in respect to high voltage low current, but different source type than static (Static means non-moving, it doesn't flow until the differential between the positive and negative is sufficient to bridge the air/insulation gap). DC will flow with any amount of differential in potential between polarities.

As you know, a coil won't pulse and create the EMF necessary to induce those high voltages from DC alone, it requires that the coil be pulsed, old school, that was left to the points, to pulse it at a precise interval.

I have (Excuse me, had) a trick book, it's appearance would suggest it was real. In truth it was covered in a conductive foil like material.
Inside the empty book it contained a AA battery, a coil (Transformer), and a vibrator similar to a car's points, but with a spring and magnet.
The hinged lid had a reversed polarity magnet, so it would attract and hold to the vibrator arm.
When you held the book in such a manner as to be able to open the cover, it charged the spring arm on the vibrator, now the front cover you're holding in your left hand, and the back cover you're holding in your right, were no longer connected together, other than by your hands, arms and chest.
When the cover had opened far enough, the magnets released, and the sprung vibrator arm acted like the points, opening and closing repeatedly, and you got the living shit zapped out of you as I stood there laughing my ass off. 🤣
Usually the book went sailing and the zappee, stood there visibly shaken and rather irritated 🤯 🤬 --- then they'd laugh, often asking to try it again. 🤣
 
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