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If your first sentence is true then I thank you for supporting the progressive agenda...

As far as the 2nd...


So your confirming that you need to suspend reality and rational thought to support the delusional Democratic Party? Thank you I’m glad someone can admit it!

You still got a lot of goddamn holes in that net of yours!
 

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Nope. There is no such thing. Nothing is free for long. It's against the rules of math, human psychology, and nature.

Who said anything about free...?

A country (Society) functions because people can do much bigger things working together than individually. (Also true based on math, human psychology, and nature). If you don't want to believe thats true then lets hear why we have a military...

Nobody will intelligently argue that we should get rid of our national defense structure. What we can debate is how and where we prioritize the resources.

Some think a nearly unlimted military budget is necessary to keep the US safe... I would tend to disagree with that based on the progress or lack of the same in the ME. Since 9/11 we have spent almost six Trillion dollars on war. There are arguments to be made that was a bad investment... I think we could do a much better job of keeping American quality of life at a high level by prioritizing healtcare for US citizens over bombing ME occupants. Thats a valid conversation that I would like to see on a national level.

The point here is not about the US becoming a socialized country, it is now, has been and will be socialist for a long time to come. The point is what gets prioritized.

My pick is the Average American starting with health care and education. Apparently that is at odds with the R's who's military spending and tax cuts for the wealthiest among us suggest nearly the opposite.
 

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Your responses come off that way to me IMO I have friends and family that have masters and phd's that think a lot like you and are bull headed and have their own set of facts . I'm curious though are you over fifty if you are you should know history eventually repeats itself.............


Facts do tend to have a Liberal bias...
 

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The point here is not about the US becoming a socialized country, it is now, has been and will be socialist for a long time to come.

There is only one statement in your very verbose post I can find some truth in (from a political system construct).

And that truth is the cause of the continual decline of the USA and will be its eventual death.
 

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There is only one statement in your very verbose post I can find some truth in (from a political system construct).

And that truth is the cause of the continual decline of the USA and will be its eventual death.

Honest Question:

In your opinion, at what point in history did the USA "Peak"?

What are the factors you use to determine that position?
 

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Facts do tend to have a Liberal bias...
I should have stated not the real facts and I like the way you twisted it and not answer my question nice deflect! Regor has you pegged!!!
 

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I should have stated not the real facts and I like the way you twisted it and not answer my question nice deflect! Regor has you pegged!!!


So very sorry... I didn't realize that referring to my age and then stating "History has a way of repeating itself" was a question.

Was born in 1967... And I agree history is getting very close to repeating itself, particularly the historical period around August of 1974.
 

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Was born in 1967... And I agree history is getting very close to repeating itself, particularly the historical period around August of 1974.

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Honest Question:

In your opinion, at what point in history did the USA "Peak"?

What are the factors you use to determine that position?

Difficult question and not one that can be fairly answered, with the extreme distortions imposed by government. In my opinion, this "former" Republic was never allowed to peak.

Dating back to the introduction of the federal reserve, the new deal, going off the gold standard, straying away from a free market economy, etc are events that ruined the trajectory, potential, durability, and peak of this once great country.
 
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Your responses come off that way to me IMO I have friends and family that have masters and phd's that think a lot like you and are bull headed and have their own set of facts . I'm curious though are you over fifty if you are you should know history eventually repeats itself.............


You need to remember that the level of intelligence and common sense is inversely proportional to the level of the college degree achieved.
 

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So very sorry... I didn't realize that referring to my age and then stating "History has a way of repeating itself" was a question.

Was born in 1967... And I agree history is getting very close to repeating itself, particularly the historical period around August of 1974.

Comparing Trump and Nixon come on.. Nixon couldn't come close to nailing the caliber of woman the only one close is maybe Kennedy but he wasn't a typical democrat way more conservative!! Plus there are no grounds unlike Nixon keep reaching and you should have out grown the democratic way of thinking if you want to truly get the country going in the right direction.
 

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Not only would I vote for her I will donate to her pac and campaign for her when she enters a national election. (Which by my estimate is 12 years from now.)

Funny how the majority of the posters who claim they dont like Trump but voted for him because he is an outsider and was going to blow up DC take exception when somebody gets elected who is actually an outsider taking steps to do it.

Nothing she votes on is going to change my way of life, sure my tax rate would increase a bit but all that really means is my kids get a bit less money when I die... That's a trade-off I am willing to make in order to plug the holes in our social safety net.

I am speechless.
 

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Facts do tend to have a Liberal bias...
Ya, totally. Facts are left leaning. Like, totally left leaning, dude. Facts are owned by LIBERALS.

Scquuege, you've out kicked your coverage, yet again. To the left, of course. And yes, that is a fact.

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It's incredibly stupid for any Republican to comment on anything that AOC says. She's a freshman House member, and has no political capital. Ignore her, and let her keep digging the hole.
 
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Nothing she votes on is going to change my way of life, sure my tax rate would increase a bit but all that really means is my kids get a bit less money when I die...


I think you should investigate exactly what she's selling. If the government runs off in the direction she is pointing to, your taxes are going to go up more than a bit. Several Democrats, including politicians that have announced their candidacy for president in 2020, have signaled their support for the "Green New Deal".

It's comical, because some of those supporting the turn to socialism have excoriated Trump over the predicted 2018 $1 trillion deficit. That's chump change compared to what the Progressives have in mind.

This is what she envisions as the qualifications of a Progressive:

When I call a Congressional candidate Progressive, it’s because they meet ALL of these standards:

No Corporate Political Money
Medicare for All
Tuition/Debt-free College + Trade School
Criminal Justice Reform
Green New Deal
Common-Sense Gun Reform
Equal Rights for All


I find it almost unbelievable that people would vote for this idiocy, but after seeing junkies shooting up and defecating on California streets while the state government promises to pay for the comfort and lifestyle of millions of alien invaders, nothing surprises me anymore.

Keep in mind Federal budget expenditures for 2018 were $4.1 trillion. The cost for AOC's proposal to provide a 100% government paid medical scheme is estimated at $3.26 trillion a year. Adding in the costs for her other proposed social programs would result in $8.31 trillion of annual government spending, and a $4.65 trillion annual deficit.

The 2017 GDP of the United States was $19.39 trillion. If AOC's plans became law, the $8.31 trillion budget expenditures would be 42.9% of every dollar of annual economic production of the entire United States. The deficit alone would be 24% of that GDP.

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Follow the links, and put some thought behind your inane comments.

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The $40 trillion question Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez couldn't answer

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/18/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-tapper/index.html

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Five things to know about Ocasio-Cortez’s 'Green New Deal'

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-e...s-to-know-about-ocasio-cortezs-green-new-deal

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$32.6 Trillion: The cost of Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez “Medicare for All”

https://www.commdiginews.com/politi...rs-and-ocasio-cortez-medicare-for-all-104751/

 

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You honestly believe that the govt can take over 1/3 of the economy and over all cost will go down and quality will remain the same?

Exibit A - Veterans Affairs

Exibit B - BIA health services


Yes...

I am 100% confident in saying that the US form of government is more competent and accountable than those in Germany, France, Belgium, The UK, Austria, Australia, etc, etc. The only thing that really has to change politically to make the change structurally is the best interests of the voters needs to become more important to elected officials than the best interest of the Health Insurance and Big Pharma. Also note that healthcare spending by those listed countries is less than 13% of their respective GDP's.

Why do you believe Americans are unable to get results on parr or better than these countries?
 

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Yes...

I am 100% confident in saying that the US form of government is more competent and accountable than those in Germany, France, Belgium, The UK, Austria, Australia, etc, etc. The only thing that really has to change politically to make the change structurally is the best interests of the voters needs to become more important to elected officials than the best interest of the Health Insurance and Big Pharma. Also note that healthcare spending by those listed countries is less than 13% of their respective GDP's.

Why do you believe Americans are unable to get results on parr or better than these countries?


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You honestly believe that the govt can take over 1/3 of the economy and over all cost will go down and quality will remain the same?

Exibit A - Veterans Affairs

Exibit B - BIA health services
Amtrack, USPS...there i not a government run program tat is run worth a shit...exccept the military and that has a ton or bloat that could be cleaned up.
 

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Yes...

I am 100% confident in saying that the US form of government is more competent and accountable than those in Germany, France, Belgium, The UK, Austria, Australia, etc, etc. The only thing that really has to change politically to make the change structurally is the best interests of the voters needs to become more important to elected officials than the best interest of the Health Insurance and Big Pharma. Also note that healthcare spending by those listed countries is less than 13% of their respective GDP's.

Why do you believe Americans are unable to get results on parr or better than these countries?
Because our is the furthest thing from competent. As long as our elected officials have rules in place that make it better for hem to care for their own pockets over their constituents...nothing will change. Term limits would be helpful too.
 

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Yes...

I am 100% confident in saying that the US form of government is more competent and accountable than those in Germany, France, Belgium, The UK, Austria, Australia, etc, etc. The only thing that really has to change politically to make the change structurally is the best interests of the voters needs to become more important to elected officials than the best interest of the Health Insurance and Big Pharma. Also note that healthcare spending by those listed countries is less than 13% of their respective GDP's.

Why do you believe Americans are unable to get results on parr or better than these countries?

I gave you two examples of why, in the health care industry no less.
 

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You gave me two examples of entities that need not exists if we had a single payer system.

I gave you two examples of gov't run health care with scores of data showing mismanagement and bad outcomes.

So I don't think those issues will go away or outcomes will change just because of economy of scale.
 

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Amtrack, USPS...there i not a government run program tat is run worth a shit...exccept the military and that has a ton or bloat that could be cleaned up.

Social security, IRS, DMV, Welfare, Senate, House of Reps, etc etc.... Government is a joke. Handing another program to them is a sure recipe for failure.
 

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Yes...

I am 100% confident in saying that the US form of government is more competent and accountable than those in Germany, France, Belgium, The UK, Austria, Australia, etc, etc. The only thing that really has to change politically to make the change structurally is the best interests of the voters needs to become more important to elected officials than the best interest of the Health Insurance and Big Pharma. Also note that healthcare spending by those listed countries is less than 13% of their respective GDP's.

Why do you believe Americans are unable to get results on parr or better than these countries?

Ever heard of the FASAB Squeaky?

The Federal Accounting Standards Advisory Board — FASAB — has essentially legalized secret national security spending. The new guidance, “SFFAS 56 – CLASSIFIED ACTIVITIES” permits government agencies to “modify” public financial statements and move expenditures from one line item to another. It also expressly allows federal agencies to refrain from telling taxpayers if and when public financial statements have been altered.

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“From this point forward,” he says, “the federal government will keep two sets of books, one modified book for the public and one true book that is hidden.”

“It diminishes the credibility of all public budget documents,”


Oh yea........................TRUST YOUR GUBERMENT MORONS!!!!!!!

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Libturds are so mind numbing, fucking stupid they think Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer care about their health.


You're all complete dumb fucking lemmings!
 

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I gave you two examples of gov't run health care with scores of data showing mismanagement and bad outcomes.

So I don't think those issues will go away or outcomes will change just because of economy of scale.
Single payer is not government run HC.
 
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