Not enough skilled workers in America.

[rivermobster]

Especially with the amount of water they use..... not sure how that works in a desert

Time will tell that's for Damm sure.

 

[Bpracing1127]

Time will tell that's for Damm sure.

Talking to my expert at work. They are needing 80 million gallons a day for water. A lot of that can be reused but still that’s a lot of water

 

[dread Pirate]

Love to see more people learning to weld that’s awesome! Im a cwi and cwe. I always tell people join the union and I can teach and certify you for FREE, while you get on the job training. I go to a lot of highscools and colleges and try to recruit welders. I sit on the inland empire aws committee as the educational chair. We just took over Wyoming and montana. I should be heading out that way to teach some classes pretty soon.

He's very much a gearhead and wants to build race cars etc. Works on a funny car team now. He's also smart enough to know that's a small niche and a tradesman paycheck will pay for his hobby and finance his side gigs. He also wants to attend a fab school in So-Cal, but cost of living is more, so by putting some money in his pocket right out of welding school while getting to work outside Yellowstone for a couple years then taking his "break" to attend another school is a solid option.

 

[cofooter]

Coming from a hi tech background, I can tell you the engineers that we brought over from our foreign factories for product transfers were expected to work their asses off and they did whatever it took to meet the schedule. To the Taiwanese, there is likely some frustration over local union work hour requirements, work ethic or quality of work and they see bringing over their guys as a solution to get back on schedule without having to deal with and local issues or regulations. It's a different culture with different rules and expectations........

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Talking to my expert at work. They are needing 80 million gallons a day for water. A lot of that can be reused but still that’s a lot of water

Its almost like there isn't really a water shortage They will use nearly reclaimed water and the water recycling will be done onsite is what I heard. That's a good use for it. honestly.

 

[rivermobster]

Coming from a hi tech background, I can tell you the engineers that we brought over from our foreign factories for product transfers were expected to work their asses off and they did whatever it took to meet the schedule. To the Taiwanese, there is likely some frustration over local union work hour requirements, work ethic or quality of work and they see bringing over their guys as a solution to get back on schedule without having to deal with and local issues or regulations. It's a different culture with different rules and expectations........

The thread title is misleading...

To me, this has Zero to do with the USA's skilled labor force and Everything to do with building a state of the art tech manufacturing plant in the middle of the fucking desert!

Seriously...

They should have pulled a page out of the Crypto guys playbooks and built it somewhere in Iceland.

When this place gets it's first electricity bill, someone is gonna scream...

Who the fucks idea was this!?!??!

This is gonna be worse then the bud light debacle for Somebody's management team!

 

[USMC2010]

I had an interview with TSMC for the Taylor a Texas Samsung site.l and some of the early work would have been in AZ. I didn't get an offer and was a bit surprised by that. I wouldn't have taken it but I call BS on lack of skilled workers. Expectations are unrealistically high by a lot of tech companies. I think there are plenty of workers available but hiring managers pass on a lot they shouldn't have.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

The thread title is misleading...

To me, this has Zero to do with the USA's skilled labor force and Everything to do with building a state of the art tech manufacturing plant in the middle of the fucking desert!

Seriously...

They should have pulled a page out of the Crypto guys playbooks and built it somewhere in Iceland.

When this place gets it's first electricity bill, someone is gonna scream...

Who the fucks idea was this!?!??!

This is gonna be worse then the bud light debacle for Somebody's management team!

That is so inaccurate, it is almost comical. You realize there are already chip fabs in the PHX valley? There is nearly unlimited sun for solar power and water infrastructure already exists. And It is about the best place in the US to avoid natural disasters.

 

[BHC Vic]

Not sure being certified is the answer.
I have hired certified welder.( TIG)
Fired him in two months .
Customer called said his weld broke .
Sent his part back
Welder was gone after that .
Now I have a weld no certificate and welds bitchin .
It all about the person not the paper

We weld different type of steels
4130 , 4140 stainless ,high carbon.
Thin.062. - .500 thick

I get that but if he’s that good he would have no problem getting the cert. Also was he certified or qualified. Only accredited labs can certify. So ATF or la city accredited lab. For certain jobs in la it doesn’t matter how good you can weld, you aren’t doing it without that la certification paper.

 

[racektm]

I get that but if he’s that good he would have no problem getting the cert. Also was he certified or qualified. Only accredited labs can certify. So ATF or la city accredited lab. For certain jobs in la it doesn’t matter how good you can weld, you aren’t doing it without that la certification paper.

Every job that has a LADBS building permit, needs to have a LA welding certification,

 

[cofooter]

I had an interview with TSMC for the Taylor a Texas Samsung site.l and some of the early work would have been in AZ. I didn't get an offer and was a bit surprised by that. I wouldn't have taken it but I call BS on lack of skilled workers. Expectations are unrealistically high by a lot of tech companies. I think there are plenty of workers available but hiring managers pass on a lot they shouldn't have.

One of those Korean or Taiwanese walking around Austin with the big house got it instead, not necessarily because they were more skilled, but they were easier to "train" given the same culture. Count your blessings, not easy working for an Asian company/boss. There's the token white guys that are customer facing or deal with local issues, but being an engineer would be tough IMO.

 

[BHC Vic]

Every job that has a LADBS building permit, needs to have a LA welding certification,

lol I’m literally going through and highlighting things now for an apprentice

 

[Bobby V]

Every job that has a LADBS building permit, needs to have a LA welding certification,

Yep . They don’t always check for cents but we always have to have a weld inspection prior to us installing the fire sprinkler pipes.

 

[Icky]

lol I’m literally going through and highlighting things now for an apprentice View attachment 1264791

Those highlights were done on a computer

 

[TCHB]

Let me add to that with some Chinese factoids . In the next 20 years china will lose 40-50% of the population due to old age and their one child rules will finally come to roost . The smart forward thinking buisness leaders are starting to realize this and developing plans to deal with a country that can no longer deliver goods. The new trade structure really needs to be us, Canada and mexico as we eliminate the mass container ships and what will be unraveling of china as a off shore mfg. I for one couldn’t be happier to het china out of our daily lives. They are a scumbag country that we shouldn’t be doing ANY buisness in . Japan yes, taiwain yes china no.
If we were smart ( hardly ever) we would stop messing with the US/mexico border and go down south and protect that border kick the cartels out and welcome Mexico with open arms. We need the workforce and they need their country back.

Stop Americans from using illegal drugs and the cartels go away. Easier said than done. Americans love their drugs. Sad

 

[Xring01]

Stop Americans from using illegal drugs and the cartels go away. Easier said than done. Americans love their drugs. Sad

Your stupid, you think common sense works in america!

Yes thats fucking sarcasm… for those you who couldnt figure it out.

 

[racektm]

Yep . They don’t always check for cents but we always have to have a weld inspection prior to us installing the fire sprinkler pipes.

I imagine most of the sprinkler pipe welding is done in the shop, but yes, they always want a weld inspection before the pipe is hung,

 

[bbrownster]

Mark Kelly will screw this up some more, even though he is 100% union backed. He states the problem as semi-conductor workers. The real issue is the lack of qualified skilled construction labor in Arizona to begin with. Intel and TSMC were the perfect storm in Phoenix to flush out what we all have known for sometime. No one wants to enter the trades anymore. They have been to told by countless counselors all through school that a college education is the panacea to happiness. TSMC has been recruiting semi-conductor workers for three to four years. Graduate from college, move to Taiwan for 24 to 36 months, learn the business', save lots of cash, come back to Phoenix and buy a home.

 

[Bobby V]

I imagine most of the sprinkler pipe welding is done in the shop, but yes, they always want a weld inspection before the pipe is hung,

Yep. Welded in the shop. If we need to install before we have a permit we drill mechanical tees.

 

[BHC Vic]

Those highlights were done on a computer

iPad. I rarely use my laptop

 

[530RL]

This is a massive project that requires a workforce that far exceeds the workforce capacity in the Metro Area. So bringing in people is sensible to get it done on time and budget.

It reminds me of the period in the mid 70's through mid 80's when they were building Palo Verde nuclear power plant. There simply was not enough skilled labor for a project that size and to keep all the other stuff building at historic volumes and as a result a lot of labor was brought in from all over.

 

[jetboatperformance]

In my 20's I started at and Olds Cadillac dealer as a "lube man" , worked up to "predelivery tech" The moved to a Chrysler , Plymouth, Dodge dealer at all levels including Service management I had help and guidance and nurturing from most of the older mechanics and managment . As a service manager at Toyota/Honda/ Nissan/ Bmw and Ford I hired promising young "techs" and moved them up based on ability and skills . When I first started JBP we supplemented jet boats by doing general auto repair I took kids from the Atascadero High school auto and taught more than one basics skills , one became a Marine , one left to be a Cop and one went on to be an Auto shop teacher . My Own son Josh started the same way In his HS Junior and Senior years He worked at JBP from noon till closing.................... Until the pulled the rug out The state "helped out" with some expenses Via a no longer existent "Vocational Education program"

 

[racektm]

Yep. Welded in the shop. If we need to install before we have a permit we drill mechanical tees.

Make sure to wire the cut out coupon to the new fitting!!

 

[Havasu blue label]

lol I’m literally going through and highlighting things now for an apprentice View attachment 1264791

That’s a standard copy from the city you pick that do some beads with different rods at home sign up for test

 

[Bobby V]

Make sure to wire the cut out coupon to the new fitting!!

Yep. Are you in the fire sprinkler industry?

 

[racektm]

Yep. Are you in the fire sprinkler industry?

Ha ha, no, superintendent for a large GC, 45th year!!

 

[Sportin' Wood]

This is the welding school my son is focused on. Job placement right out of the school. Spend a year or two working in Montana and Wyoming afterward then decide whats next. He's already pretty good with computers and can program plasma tables. In fact his high school asked him to come back and realign the 3D printers again. His brain works a little differently and he is much better hands on than books. He struggled through school, but excels with his hands.

Western Welding Academy

Voted "#1 Welding School in the World" and the only pipe welding school in the country owned and operated solely by real pipeline/pipe welders.

www.westernweldingacademy.com

Steller choice of schools. My son just stopped teaching welding to go back to the field. He raves about that school and he attended The Lincoln Electric welding school. Wyotech tried to recruit him but he told them they will never compete with Western Welding Academy. Real-world pipeliner shit, not climate-controlled education. https://weldingworkforcedata.com/ Massive shortage of welders projected.

Have your kid start thinking about how he is going to get into his own rig as fast as possible if he wants to be a Pipeliner. That and a towable RV trailer. Housing is an issue. Maybe get some hands-on experience as an iron worker so he has choices. Grab as many certs as possible while at the school.

Also awesome that he can run computers, CNC and automation is coming fast. The best robotic welders started in the field. He may want to consider robotics alongside his welding education.

My son also knows CNC plasma tables, he was also teaching CAD before he bailed for way bigger money back in the field.

 

[Bobby V]

Ha ha, no, superintendent for a large GC, 45th year!!

In So Cal? Over 40 years for me until I retired 2 months ago.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

He's very much a gearhead and wants to build race cars etc. Works on a funny car team now. He's also smart enough to know that's a small niche and a tradesman paycheck will pay for his hobby and finance his side gigs. He also wants to attend a fab school in So-Cal, but cost of living is more, so by putting some money in his pocket right out of welding school while getting to work outside Yellowstone for a couple years then taking his "break" to attend another school is a solid option.

LOL my kid also did the race car thing, he just finally pulled his head out of his ass and realized he was working 7 days a week teaching and building race cars and not getting ahead. His first back-to-construction paycheck bring home was more than both jobs combined for a month's worth of work. Offroad race car building don't pay.

 

[racektm]

In So Cal? Over 40 years for me until I retired 2 months ago.

Yes, since 1978, I’m down to three days a week, until the end of the year,

 

[BHC Vic]

Steller choice of schools. My son just stopped teaching welding to go back to the field. He raves about that school and he attended The Lincoln Electric welding school. Wyotech tried to recruit him but he told them they will never compete with Western Welding Academy. Real-world pipeliner shit, not climate-controlled education. https://weldingworkforcedata.com/ Massive shortage of welders projected.

Have your kid start thinking about how he is going to get into his own rig as fast as possible if he wants to be a Pipeliner. That and a towable RV trailer. Housing is an issue. Maybe get some hands-on experience as an iron worker so he has choices. Grab as many certs as possible while at the school.

Also awesome that he can run computers, CNC and automation is coming fast. The best robotic welders started in the field. He may want to consider robotics alongside his welding education.

My son also knows CNC plasma tables, he was also teaching CAD before he bailed for way bigger money back in the field.

I was a little surprised when I looked up the school on the aws website this morning. They aren’t an ATF which I thought was weird but I have no experience with them. It’s the difference between qualifying welders and certifying welders. If the aren’t accredited they aren’t putting out aws certified welders. They are qualified welders qualified by which ever inspector tested them

 

[Bobby V]

Yes, since 1978, I’m down to three days a week, until the end of the year,

I was with Advance Fire for 38 years. Did you ever work with AFP?.

 

[racektm]

I was with Advance Fire for 38 years. Did you ever work with AFP?.

Yes, couldn’t tell you which foreman, perhaps Joe?? Korea town YMCA and a private school in the Valley, Campbell Hall,
i spent 25 at Morley, currently at Matt,

 

[Bobby V]

Yes, couldn’t tell you which foreman, perhaps Joe?? Korea town YMCA and a private school in the Valley, Campbell Hall,
i spent 25 at Morley, currently at Matt,

I know both GCs. Hit and miss with Matt. We still bid the bigger projects with them. My biggest project with Matt was at McMaster Carr in 2015. They ere down the street from Matts office in SF Springs.

 

[racektm]

I know both GCs. Hit and miss with Matt. We still bid the bigger projects with them. My biggest project with Matt was at McMaster Carr in 2015. They ere down the street from Matts office in SF Springs.

Yes indeed, Bill Driver was the PM as remember, I don’t remember the superintendent

 

[BHC Vic]

Yes, couldn’t tell you which foreman, perhaps Joe?? Korea town YMCA and a private school in the Valley, Campbell Hall,
i spent 25 at Morley, currently at Matt,

Lol a Matt project was the only project I ever got booted off in the field

 

[racektm]

Lol a Matt project was the only project I ever got booted off in the field

Ha ha, which project??

 

[BHC Vic]

It was either nbc or universal studios. Those were my vicious 13 days so safe to say I deserved it. On that note this was this morning. It’s still funny to me that people call me vicious and I’m not even like that anymore. My wife doesn’t like it

 

[Bobby V]

Yes indeed, Bill Driver was the PM as remember, I don’t remember the superintendent

Bill Driver sounds familiar. Just checked our data base. Looks like AFP has done a few jobs at Hammer Museum and a bigger project called NHM Commons with Matt in the last year or so.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

LOL my kid also did the race car thing, he just finally pulled his head out of his ass and realized he was working 7 days a week teaching and building race cars and not getting ahead. His first back-to-construction paycheck bring home was more than both jobs combined for a month's worth of work. Offroad race car building don't pay.

There are several fab guys in Havasu that now build gates .

 

[racektm]

Bill Driver sounds familiar. Just checked our data base. Looks like AFP has done a few jobs at Hammer Museum and a bigger project called NHM Commons with Matt in the last year or so.

Hammer museum and the natural history museum, still active jobs I believe

 

[bilz]

Whittier Union High School District has training in plumbing and electrical. Might be a resource for you contractor types.[ATTACH>

 

[CJKnoll0530]

I was a little surprised when I looked up the school on the aws website this morning. They aren’t an ATF which I thought was weird but I have no experience with them. It’s the difference between qualifying welders and certifying welders. If the aren’t accredited they aren’t putting out aws certified welders. They are qualified welders qualified by which ever inspector tested them View attachment 1264867

The accredited welding school thing is kind of a joke bunch of bureaucratic nonsense in my opinion. The top welding schools like Lincoln electric, western welding academy, Hobart, and others don’t follow the accreditation criteria because it’s highly restrictive for what and how you can teach welding, in an industry that’s evolving almost daily there’s no time for it. I went to Lincoln electrics welding school right out of highschool in 2014 and just left my part time position at a career college in northern nevada teaching welding at an Accredited welding school. I believe there’s somethings we taught at the career college I wish I could have had the chance to learn but at the same time I feel like I got a much better education at the school I went to. I left my school with 6 certifications. After 8 years in the welding industry I can tell you any certification really just gets your foot in the door 9/10 times a company is going to want you to take a welding test anyway. It really depends on what type of work you want to do. If you’re looking for a local job at a fab shop go to a local accredited welding school if you wanna stay local ish and know what kind of welding work you want to that’s not in a fab shop join a Union as an apprentice. If you want to travel and make the big money go to a top level school that teaches you the skills you need. Being a graduate from one of those schools looks way better on a resume then an AWS sense level certification. If I were hiring a welder today I’d look at that and come to the conclusion that you can answer questions on a test out of a book written by an engineer who’s never welded a day in his life. I’ve had to tell many students of mine “yes that’s what the book says, that is the answer to the question on the test, but it’s wrong and here’s why…”


As for the TSMC job I’m an ironworker/structural welder in kingman making pretty good money working on a mine restoration project and plan to switch over to pipe once that work starts up. most of my crew came from the TSMC project and are considering going back to it now that they are hiring ironworkers again. I'm told a journeyman ironworker Foreman (not a welder) is making 42 an hour and 125 a day perdium for days worked but that comes with a cost. 6-7 days a week aren’t uncommon, and 12-hour days aren’t uncommon. Because of the size of the project and the willingness to hire just about anyone with a pulse safety is an issue and drug use is quite common. Me personally I like my weekends and working around people I know are sober. I’ll be fine making a little less money for that kind of security, industrial construction is a different animal

 

[rrrr]

You mean the 10 Million Illegals that Biden has let walked over the border with 3rd Grade educations aren't qualified for low wage assembly jobs, or they don't want to work because the US Gubment is paying them more to sit on their ass than what TSMC is ? lol

Today I read an opinion piece in the WSJ about New York City and how Mayor Adams is trying to grift money from the feds to pay for the "immigrants" that the city is putting in hotels. It laid out the daily costs of lodging and meals being expended, and stated that a taxpaying NYC citizen would have to earn around $280,000 annually before taxes to support a family at the same level.

Mayor Eric Adams last week groused that local hotels and shelters are overrun with migrants whose care will cost the city about $5 billion this fiscal year. As New York politicians do, he’s begging the feds and ordinary city-dwellers to open their wallets. “This is not Mayor Adams’s job. This is the job of the people of the city of New York,” he said last week. “We need every New Yorker that has something to offer to play a role.”

Apparently, paying the nation’s highest taxes isn’t enough. Mr. Adams recently floated the idea of sheltering migrants in private homes. How rich considering that city regulations set to take effect next month will effectively prohibit New Yorkers from renting out their apartments on Airbnb. The home-sharing site estimates the new “de facto ban” will eliminate 95% of its revenue in the city.

Naturally, the result will be higher demand and prices for rooms at hotels, including those where the city is paying $256 a night on average to shelter migrant families. Some hotels, like a Holiday Inn Express in Brooklyn, are making upward of $300 a night housing migrants. This doesn’t include the cost of food, medical care and social services, which adds another $127 a day per migrant family.

A New Yorker would have to make around $280,000 a year before taxes to afford what the city is spending on each migrant family. No wonder they’re coming by the bus load.

Opinion | Eric Adams and the Self-Imposed Crisis of a Sanctuary City

High-tax, overregulated New York is too costly for the middle class and now asks migrants to stay away.

www.wsj.com

 

[CarolynandBob]

The accredited welding school thing is kind of a joke bunch of bureaucratic nonsense in my opinion. The top welding schools like Lincoln electric, western welding academy, Hobart, and others don’t follow the accreditation criteria because it’s highly restrictive for what and how you can teach welding, in an industry that’s evolving almost daily there’s no time for it. I went to Lincoln electrics welding school right out of highschool in 2014 and just left my part time position at a career college in northern nevada teaching welding at an Accredited welding school. I believe there’s somethings we taught at the career college I wish I could have had the chance to learn but at the same time I feel like I got a much better education at the school I went to. I left my school with 6 certifications. After 8 years in the welding industry I can tell you any certification really just gets your foot in the door 9/10 times a company is going to want you to take a welding test anyway. It really depends on what type of work you want to do. If you’re looking for a local job at a fab shop go to a local accredited welding school if you wanna stay local ish and know what kind of welding work you want to that’s not in a fab shop join a Union as an apprentice. If you want to travel and make the big money go to a top level school that teaches you the skills you need. Being a graduate from one of those schools looks way better on a resume then an AWS sense level certification. If I were hiring a welder today I’d look at that and come to the conclusion that you can answer questions on a test out of a book written by an engineer who’s never welded a day in his life. I’ve had to tell many students of mine “yes that’s what the book says, that is the answer to the question on the test, but it’s wrong and here’s why…”


As for the TSMC job I’m an ironworker/structural welder in kingman making pretty good money working on a mine restoration project and plan to switch over to pipe once that work starts up. most of my crew came from the TSMC project and are considering going back to it now that they are hiring ironworkers again. I'm told a journeyman ironworker (not a welder) is making 48 an hour and 125 a day perdium for days worked but that comes with a cost. 6-7 days a week aren’t uncommon, and 12-hour days aren’t uncommon. Because of the size of the project and the willingness to hire just about anyone with a pulse safety is an issue and drug use is quite common. Me personally I like my weekends and working around people I know are sober. I’ll be fine making a little less money for that kind of security, industrial construction is a different animal

I agree with your first paragraph. I ran a structural steel shop and every new to us welder got tested. We also had a cwi in house.

 

[BHC Vic]

The accredited welding school thing is kind of a joke bunch of bureaucratic nonsense in my opinion. The top welding schools like Lincoln electric, western welding academy, Hobart, and others don’t follow the accreditation criteria because it’s highly restrictive for what and how you can teach welding, in an industry that’s evolving almost daily there’s no time for it. I went to Lincoln electrics welding school right out of highschool in 2014 and just left my part time position at a career college in northern nevada teaching welding at an Accredited welding school. I believe there’s somethings we taught at the career college I wish I could have had the chance to learn but at the same time I feel like I got a much better education at the school I went to. I left my school with 6 certifications. After 8 years in the welding industry I can tell you any certification really just gets your foot in the door 9/10 times a company is going to want you to take a welding test anyway. It really depends on what type of work you want to do. If you’re looking for a local job at a fab shop go to a local accredited welding school if you wanna stay local ish and know what kind of welding work you want to that’s not in a fab shop join a Union as an apprentice. If you want to travel and make the big money go to a top level school that teaches you the skills you need. Being a graduate from one of those schools looks way better on a resume then an AWS sense level certification. If I were hiring a welder today I’d look at that and come to the conclusion that you can answer questions on a test out of a book written by an engineer who’s never welded a day in his life. I’ve had to tell many students of mine “yes that’s what the book says, that is the answer to the question on the test, but it’s wrong and here’s why…”


As for the TSMC job I’m an ironworker/structural welder in kingman making pretty good money working on a mine restoration project and plan to switch over to pipe once that work starts up. most of my crew came from the TSMC project and are considering going back to it now that they are hiring ironworkers again. I'm told a journeyman ironworker (not a welder) is making 48 an hour and 125 a day perdium for days worked but that comes with a cost. 6-7 days a week aren’t uncommon, and 12-hour days aren’t uncommon. Because of the size of the project and the willingness to hire just about anyone with a pulse safety is an issue and drug use is quite common. Me personally I like my weekends and working around people I know are sober. I’ll be fine making a little less money for that kind of security, industrial construction is a different animal

I’m a cwi and cwe and an instructor for the carpenters union. Don’t know what you consider big money but I make 150k a year pretty comfortably. I can qualify or cert guys, I can teach, I can go in the field and inspect or I could open my own school. Putting thought into that last option but I have a great pension and benefits and I’m pretty comfortable. I agree with the certs getting your foot in the e door and that’s why they are important. An aws cert or la city cert hold more weight than a qualification. It’s just like having a degree at the end of the day. I’m assuming you are also a cwi or cwe? Or were you just teaching and someone coming behind you to test and certify?

 

[Sportin' Wood]

I’m a cwi and cwe and an instructor for the carpenters union. Don’t know what you consider big money but I make 150k a year pretty comfortably. I can qualify or cert guys, I can teach, I can go in the field and inspect or I could open my own school. Putting thought into that last option but I have a great pension and benefits and I’m pretty comfortable. I agree with the certs getting your foot in the e door and that’s why they are important. An aws cert or la city cert hold more weight than a qualification. It’s just like having a degree at the end of the day. I’m assuming you are also a cwi or cwe? Or were you just teaching and someone coming behind you to test and certify?

@BHC Vic @CJKnoll0530 is my kid, I encouraged him to come on RDP. I actually would love to see him have the opportunity to connect with you and learn from your experience.

I also thought his story might be helpful for other parents looking for career paths for their kids. Add in per diem and the kid was making 6 figures shortly after leaving welding school in Florida on his first big job in his early 20s. In contrast, my Daughter was a superstar student who received an undergraduate in Math and is currently employed with the state working on math curriculum standards, she won't sniff the kind of cash our son can generate working as an ironworker or pipe welder on a decent construction job. My wife has a master's degree and makes about half what our son can make in a year if he hustles.

However, all that hustle comes with a price. Nomadic travel, long work hours, and difficult unsafe working conditions are a young single person's game. Graduation into a CWI & CWE role with a stable employer should be on the road map for anyone who wants to take the path of trade work.

I was a Plumber when I was young, I can't imagine doing that work now. I'm much better suited for driving a keyboard in a climate-controlled office.

 

[petie6464]

I can't get someone to trim my palm trees...

 

[Dcb.blake]

No question that there is a labor shortage. From what I’ve seen in my local economy is people are just flat out lazy, bitch and moan about the heat or how they twisted their ankle now they have to take 5 days of to go to the doctor. Always looking for an excuse to not work but still get paid. A money grab if you will.

Another reason is the gov has a very close net to catch you if you fail. It almost makes it hard to even want to get out and work when you could sit at home collect unemployment. Not saying these nets shouldn’t be set in place but more so they need a major readjustment.

Not sure where everyone’s common sense went nowadays? I feel like I shouldn’t have to explain how to sweep a shop floor with a broom

 

[HB2Havasu]

Today I read an opinion piece in the WSJ about New York City and how Mayor Adams is trying to grift money from the feds to pay for the "immigrants" that the city is putting in hotels. It laid out the daily costs of lodging and meals being expended, and stated that a taxpaying NYC citizen would have to earn around $280,000 annually before taxes to support a family at the same level.

Mayor Eric Adams last week groused that local hotels and shelters are overrun with migrants whose care will cost the city about $5 billion this fiscal year. As New York politicians do, he’s begging the feds and ordinary city-dwellers to open their wallets. “This is not Mayor Adams’s job. This is the job of the people of the city of New York,” he said last week. “We need every New Yorker that has something to offer to play a role.”

Apparently, paying the nation’s highest taxes isn’t enough. Mr. Adams recently floated the idea of sheltering migrants in private homes. How rich considering that city regulations set to take effect next month will effectively prohibit New Yorkers from renting out their apartments on Airbnb. The home-sharing site estimates the new “de facto ban” will eliminate 95% of its revenue in the city.

Naturally, the result will be higher demand and prices for rooms at hotels, including those where the city is paying $256 a night on average to shelter migrant families. Some hotels, like a Holiday Inn Express in Brooklyn, are making upward of $300 a night housing migrants. This doesn’t include the cost of food, medical care and social services, which adds another $127 a day per migrant family.

A New Yorker would have to make around $280,000 a year before taxes to afford what the city is spending on each migrant family. No wonder they’re coming by the bus load.

Opinion | Eric Adams and the Self-Imposed Crisis of a Sanctuary City

High-tax, overregulated New York is too costly for the middle class and now asks migrants to stay away.

www.wsj.com

So yore saying a city like New York who declared themselves as a Sanctuary City several years ago can't actually afford to foot the bill of Non-Citizens? Who Knew??? LMAO

What people aren't looking at is Bidens Open Border Policies are Marxist Policies. Karl Marx believed that nobody should own private property and therefore all borders should be 'open' as they belonged to the One World 'Communist" Government. These are the people who got elected in 2020. If they're not all thrown out of office next year companies like TMSC won't have to worry about workers as the New Government will just provide Indentured Servants to build their Chip Boards.