Not enough skilled workers in America.

[Havasu blue label]

Whittier Union High School District has training in plumbing and electrical. Might be a resource for you contractor types.[ATTACH> View attachment 1264928

It’s only offered in Spanish and they have a bus that’s picks u up at Michigan Park area

 

[dread Pirate]

Steller choice of schools. My son just stopped teaching welding to go back to the field. He raves about that school and he attended The Lincoln Electric welding school. Wyotech tried to recruit him but he told them they will never compete with Western Welding Academy. Real-world pipeliner shit, not climate-controlled education. https://weldingworkforcedata.com/ Massive shortage of welders projected.

Have your kid start thinking about how he is going to get into his own rig as fast as possible if he wants to be a Pipeliner. That and a towable RV trailer. Housing is an issue. Maybe get some hands-on experience as an iron worker so he has choices. Grab as many certs as possible while at the school.

Also awesome that he can run computers, CNC and automation is coming fast. The best robotic welders started in the field. He may want to consider robotics alongside his welding education.

My son also knows CNC plasma tables, he was also teaching CAD before he bailed for way bigger money back in the field.

They defiantly do real world schooling. Last winter they posted a clip of a few students working outside in "tents" in -20* temps and 30mph winds. Told my son he's gonna freeze his ass off 3 months of the year, but will be in paradise the other 9.

As for a rig, I'm gonna guess he'll probably steal my 99 F350 and start building off of it. Unless a nice dually comes up along the way.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

They defiantly do real world schooling. Last winter they posted a clip of a few students working outside in "tents" in -20* temps and 30mph winds. Told my son he's gonna freeze his ass off 3 months of the year, but will be in paradise the other 9.

As for a rig, I'm gonna guess he'll probably steal my 99 F350 and start building off of it. Unless a nice dually comes up along the way.

@CJKnoll0530 quickly said housing last night when I talked to him about your son. He will chime in, but maybe take advantage of an RV price dip and get a cheap bumper pull trailer while the prices are good.

 

[BHC Vic]

@BHC Vic @CJKnoll0530 is my kid, I encouraged him to come on RDP. I actually would love to see him have the opportunity to connect with you and learn from your experience.

I also thought his story might be helpful for other parents looking for career paths for their kids. Add in per diem and the kid was making 6 figures shortly after leaving welding school in Florida on his first big job in his early 20s. In contrast, my Daughter was a superstar student who received an undergraduate in Math and is currently employed with the state working on math curriculum standards, she won't sniff the kind of cash our son can generate working as an ironworker or pipe welder on a decent construction job. My wife has a master's degree and makes about half what our son can make in a year if he hustles.

However, all that hustle comes with a price. Nomadic travel, long work hours, and difficult unsafe working conditions are a young single person's game. Graduation into a CWI & CWE role with a stable employer should be on the road map for anyone who wants to take the path of trade work.

I was a Plumber when I was young, I can't imagine doing that work now. I'm much better suited for driving a keyboard in a climate-controlled office.

lots of different routes to take. I’m done being out of state and away from my family, I’m done killing my body and risking my life, and I’m done driving all over the world job site to job site. I think I finally found my little niche and I’m going to enjoy it while I can. Some schools are charging 25k for an 8 week course. Same course we give free here in the union. I think once I retire I’ll open my own school and try that out. Theres a shop here my buddies run. CTM welding, they bring in about 30k a month. I just want to finish ip here and secure my pension then I’ll see what I can do. I’d love to meet up and chat sometime. Always good to hear different perspectives and ideas. I’ve been out of the field 6 years now so I love talking to field guys and learning what’s new and upcoming. We go to fab tech and all the college seminars and aws nights I love talking and learning . Just another day in the office

 

[racektm]

@BHC Vic @CJKnoll0530 is my kid, I encouraged him to come on RDP. I actually would love to see him have the opportunity to connect with you and learn from your experience.

lots of different routes to take. I’m done being out of state and away from my family, I’m done killing my body and risking my life, and I’m done driving all over the world job site to job site. I think I finally found my little niche and I’m going to enjoy it while I can. Some schools are charging 25k for an 8 week course. Same course we give free here in the union. I think once I retire I’ll open my own school and try that out. Theres a shop here my buddies run. CTM welding, they bring in about 30k a month. I just want to finish ip here and secure my pension then I’ll see what I can do. I’d love to meet up and chat sometime. Always good to hear different perspectives and ideas. I’ve been out of the field 6 years now so I love talking to field guys and learning what’s new and upcoming. We go to fab tech and all the college seminars and aws nights I love talking and learning . Just another day in the office View attachment 1265227 View attachment 1265228

Do you teach at the Whittier training center?

 

[BHC Vic]

Do you teach at the Whittier training center?

My home base is Ontario off haven and the 10. My buddy Troy runs the Whittier shop.

 

[Instigator]

Something to note. All the new US chip mfg won’t even make a dent in the worlds demand.

So don’t get your hopes up that this solves a lot of problems.

Secondly, I work in this space and no kids are doing these jobs. The workforce in America is dying up. No high school or college kids want to stand in mfg facility for 10 hours a day making boards or microchip.

They want to be counselors and art majors

That is because they were convinced by liberal/unionized educators to get a 100k degree from more liberal educators only to try to find a 40k year job so they can pay their student loans for the next 30 years.
Meanwhile, the uneducated youth that are chosing to work hard and learn a trade will out earn their educated peers. Problem is that there aren't very many that want to listen to an uneducated tradesman because the youth think they have it all figured out for themselves.
Lol

 

[CJKnoll0530]

I’m a cwi and cwe and an instructor for the carpenters union. Don’t know what you consider big money but I make 150k a year pretty comfortably. I can qualify or cert guys, I can teach, I can go in the field and inspect or I could open my own school. Putting thought into that last option but I have a great pension and benefits and I’m pretty comfortable. I agree with the certs getting your foot in the e door and that’s why they are important. An aws cert or la city cert hold more weight than a qualification. It’s just like having a degree at the end of the day. I’m assuming you are also a cwi or cwe? Or were you just teaching and someone coming behind you to test and certify?

Big money in my eyes is anything over 100k maybe in today's economy i's not quite the same feeling as it was 10-15 years ago but for a young single guy it feels pretty good. I'm not a CWI or a CWE but getting my CWI is on the 5 year goal list. The school I taught didn't have a CWI at all once the department chair left for more money and less hours, it was odd to me that keeping the accreditation was more of a priority then paying fair wages for instructors and encouraging them to take the CWI test. We were told we would only get reimbursed for the cost of the seminar/test we passed. Seems like a poor investment strategy if you ask me.

 

[CJKnoll0530]

@BHC Vic @CJKnoll0530 is my kid, I encouraged him to come on RDP. I actually would love to see him have the opportunity to connect with you and learn from your experience.

lots of different routes to take. I’m done being out of state and away from my family, I’m done killing my body and risking my life, and I’m done driving all over the world job site to job site. I think I finally found my little niche and I’m going to enjoy it while I can. Some schools are charging 25k for an 8 week course. Same course we give free here in the union. I think once I retire I’ll open my own school and try that out. Theres a shop here my buddies run. CTM welding, they bring in about 30k a month. I just want to finish ip here and secure my pension then I’ll see what I can do. I’d love to meet up and chat sometime. Always good to hear different perspectives and ideas. I’ve been out of the field 6 years now so I love talking to field guys and learning what’s new and upcoming. We go to fab tech and all the college seminars and aws nights I love talking and learning . Just another day in the office View attachment 1265227 View attachment 1265228

That's pretty sweet! I loved the teaching job just hated the pay and being restricted to what I was allowed to teach and how to teach it. Once I knew I wasn't staying I started pushing the boundaries having class outside challenging students to lay down better welds then me it was a lot of fun. I love the traveling game but I can see it having a short lifespan for now its still fun to me.

 

[grumpy88]

Not sure being certified is the answer.
I have hired certified welder.( TIG)
Fired him in two months .
Customer called said his weld broke .
Sent his part back
Welder was gone after that .
Now I have a weld no certificate and welds bitchin .
It all about the person not the paper

We weld different type of steels
4130 , 4140 stainless ,high carbon.
Thin.062. - .500 thick

His guys are certified in oak , pine and mesquite ! God bless the carpinters for stealing the iron workers jobs . Oh wait people having there jobs taken away by others fits this thread perfectly !

 

[BHC Vic]

Big money in my eyes is anything over 100k maybe in today's economy i's not quite the same feeling as it was 10-15 years ago but for a young single guy it feels pretty good. I'm not a CWI or a CWE but getting my CWI is on the 5 year goal list. The school I taught didn't have a CWI at all once the department chair left for more money and less hours, it was odd to me that keeping the accreditation was more of a priority then paying fair wages for instructors and encouraging them to take the CWI test. We were told we would only get reimbursed for the cost of the seminar/test we passed. Seems like a poor investment strategy if you ask me.

I have all the practice tests and books if you’re serious about taking the cwi exam. Can save you around a thousand bucks or so just let me know when you want it

 

[BHC Vic]

His guys are certified in oak , pine and mesquite ! God bless the carpinters for stealing the iron workers jobs . Oh wait people having there jobs taken away by others fits this thread perfectly !

We weld anything the iron workers can’t bolt together.

I’m jk

I took my exam at the iron workers training center in San diego. When I said I was a carpenter one of the iron workers replied I didn’t even know you guys weld. I replied with we weld anything you guys can’t bolt together. It was pretty funny but I guess you had to be there

 

[intense]

@BHC Vic @CJKnoll0530 is my kid, I encouraged him to come on RDP. I actually would love to see him have the opportunity to connect with you and learn from your experience.

I also thought his story might be helpful for other parents looking for career paths for their kids. Add in per diem and the kid was making 6 figures shortly after leaving welding school in Florida on his first big job in his early 20s. In contrast, my Daughter was a superstar student who received an undergraduate in Math and is currently employed with the state working on math curriculum standards, she won't sniff the kind of cash our son can generate working as an ironworker or pipe welder on a decent construction job. My wife has a master's degree and makes about half what our son can make in a year if he hustles.

However, all that hustle comes with a price. Nomadic travel, long work hours, and difficult unsafe working conditions are a young single person's game. Graduation into a CWI & CWE role with a stable employer should be on the road map for anyone who wants to take the path of trade work.

I was a Plumber when I was young, I can't imagine doing that work now. I'm much better suited for driving a keyboard in a climate-controlled office.

Don't forget he's building a bad ass jeep for himself also

 

[El Rojo]

200k is possible for an Automotive Refinish Technician at a good corporate body shop, plus 401K match health bennies etc...but just like anything else, you gotta be good at what you do...then there's all the side cash money you can make if you freelance on the wknds etc...