Nordic Buys Hallett!!

[NicPaus]

I would like to jus say.

" SCHIADA"
[emoji6] [emoji202] [emoji106]

For Sale! Both daves selling to upgrade to a new Hallett built by Nordic?

 

[JD D05]

Would be pretty easy for one of the Nordic guys to come in and say what the plans are. Don't know why it needs to be a surprise

I am sure they will for you.

 

[steak&lobster]

I am sure they will for you.

yah they should of held a press conference 15 minutes after they acquired Hallett

 

[CobraDave]

55-60k is never going to happen unfortunately.

8.2 is going to be 90-100 I would imagine.

Interesting to see what plays out[emoji41][emoji106]

I do not see why not. Cobra has that 230 right now for 59k. I don't think I'd pay more than 55 for a 210

 

[Cole Trickle]

I do not see why not. Cobra has that 230 right now for 59k. I don't think I'd pay more than 55 for a 210

Different boats and different buyers....

I would rather have a 65k 210 than a 59k 230.

 

[Ziggy]

I'd rather just have a Nordic.........................................oh wait:rolleyes that's already scratched off the bucket list

 

[CobraDave]

Different boats and different buyers....

I would rather have a 65k 210 than a 59k 230.

Very true. What do U think a 1-2 year old 210 would go for with a 496 on the used market?

 

[Livewire Fabworks]

I am bummed to see that the Barron family sold their business to anyone. Nothing against Nordic. I know they also build an awesome boat and look forward to any dealings I will have with them. I just had a 255 built and had a 210 before that. I have been in and out of their shops for almost 15 years and can say everyone I have met in their operation has been awesome. Nick, Jim, and Jerry were always polite and would answer any questions I had. Nick passed while my boat was brewing built. I feel for for the rest of the team from the in house
upholstery team, laminators, riggers, and Gelcoater. I interacted with all of them in the process and they were all awesome.

With that said, Gelcoater is right, there are a lot of Halletts with graffics and colors that are dated, but that was either a customer that did not have a clue what they wanted, or had bad taste. Just the same as all of the boats that followed the tribal look. I drew my very simple graffics out and had the pleasure to spend part of the day with Gelcoater and my wife as he laid out the graffics and dialed in the colors. I went for classic looks much like my 210.

The interior on their boats did not have much in terms of selection in style for the vinyl and I am sure that will change with Nordic but I love my interior and was able to customize the dash, dash components, stereo and such.

Bash on pricing but you have to look at options that some sell as options and others include in the boat. Standard items on my boat that I know most add on as extras were, vessel view 7.0, led water lights, 18" custom wheels on the trailer, on board battery charge, and so on. I chose the 540 package and can tell you that it was priced lower than the numbers most people in this post are talking about. I was out the door for $110,000 and couldn't be happier with my boat. I did not drink any kind of Cool Aide just a happy customer.

 

[Cole Trickle]

Very true. What do U think a 1-2 year old 210 would go for with a 496 on the used market?

Hard to say....

I believe the more expensive the boat the more depreciation. I don't care who we're talking about a 250k to 500k custom boat is going to take a beating.

A basic 6.2/bravo boat that is somewhat economical might be 65k new and sell for 50-55k+ a year later depending on graphics and supply/demand.

It's been argued many times that manufacturers like cheetah have the best resale and bang for the buck.

 

[hallett3]

I am bummed to see that the Barron family sold their business to anyone. Nothing against Nordic. I know they also build an awesome boat and look forward to any dealings I will have with them. I just had a 255 built and had a 210 before that. I have been in and out of their shops for almost 15 years and can say everyone I have met in their operation has been awesome. Nick, Jim, and Jerry were always polite and would answer any questions I had. Nick passed while my boat was brewing built. I feel for for the rest of the team from the in house
upholstery team, laminators, riggers, and Gelcoater. I interacted with all of them in the process and they were all awesome.

With that said, Gelcoater is right, there are a lot of Halletts with graffics and colors that are dated, but that was either a customer that did not have a clue what they wanted, or had bad taste. Just the same as all of the boats that followed the tribal look. I drew my very simple graffics out and had the pleasure to spend part of the day with Gelcoater and my wife as he laid out the graffics and dialed in the colors. I went for classic looks much like my 210.

The interior on their boats did not have much in terms of selection in style for the vinyl and I am sure that will change with Nordic but I love my interior and was able to customize the dash, dash components, stereo and such.

Bash on pricing but you have to look at options that some sell as options and others include in the boat. Standard items on my boat that I know most add on as extras were, vessel view 7.0, led water lights, 18" custom wheels on the trailer, on board battery charge, and so on. I chose the 540 package and can tell you that it was priced lower than the numbers most people in this post are talking about. I was out the door for $110,000 and couldn't be happier with my boat. I did not drink any kind of Cool Aide just a happy customer. View attachment 586041 View attachment 586043

Your boat is bad ass. Love the options you got and that was a good buy. I think you are the one that chopped down the round windshield for a sleeker look. 👍

 

[Melloyellovector]

Ok question, what happened to the 2 old school flat bottoms in the showroom? Im sure Nordic has zero use for them, interested in the wood deck if it's on the block some where

 

[Livewire Fabworks]

Your boat is bad ass. Love the options you got and that was a good buy. I think you are the one that chopped down the round windshield for a sleeker look. 

That is correct.

 

[Livewire Fabworks]

Your boat is bad ass. Love the options you got and that was a good buy. I think you are the one that chopped down the round windshield for a sleeker look. 

And thank you.

 

[Racer56]

My take on Nordic buying Hallett.

It is the best thing that could have happened to Hallett and probably the only way to secure Hallett's future as one of the preeminent west coast custom boat builders. At the beginning of the year I was in the market to purchase a new WTOB boat for myself and my family. My short list was the Howard VTX, the Hallett 255 and the Nordic Rage. The Howard's lead time was way to long and was pretty pricey. I gave the Hallett 255 a long hard look, but could not get over the fact that you are buying a brand new boat in 2017 that is built to 1990's standards. I am not slamming Hallett as their build quality and reputation is top notch. What I mean by that is the Nordic Rage is a molded one piece composite deck, versus plywood floors and bolt down interior. The bow seat cushions in the 255 use velcro to keep them in place, versus the bitchin custom seat hinges in the Rage. The Nordic Rage is a completely wood free boat and to me the main advantage is never having to worry about rotting wood. I see a bright future for Hallett under the Nordic umbrella and I would bet that Nordic will bring the Hallett boat line into the modern era, which will only increase the amount of sales and Hallett's brand loyalty.

 

[shan]

Ok question, what happened to the 2 old school flat bottoms in the showroom? Im sure Nordic has zero use for them, interested in the wood deck if it's on the block some where
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That, I would buy. Love the old school Halletts!

 

[Gelcoater]

Ok question, what happened to the 2 old school flat bottoms in the showroom? Im sure Nordic has zero use for them, interested in the wood deck if it's on the block some where
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I was talking with another RDP peep yesterday and this came up.
What did happen to the yellow flat?
I kept trying to get Jerry to give me a number. Either cash or how many boats do I have to spray to have it?
All he ever said was it wasn't for sale.


My apologies to whoever ends up with it. I'm sure remnants of my drool are still on/in it somewhere.

 

[Gelcoater]

Lmao, here comes round 2 of the boatstradamuses telling us how it's the end of Hallett..... In case you didn't notice Randy took Nordic from a small, mid-tier, local manufacturer to world class in under 10 years. Go look at the Nordic models offered, and quality of the builds before, and after the change of ownership.

If you think this is bad for the Hallett brand you are smoking crack. Randy and the crew he has assembled over the years know what the hell they are doing, and they are damn good at it. This aint his first rodeo.

I don't think it's a matter of it being "bad" for Hallett? It's just going to be different.

If you took Lee, Stan, and the rest of the key players out of the Schiada build and sent all their molds and equipment to Havasu and have a bunch of guys who, while have experience building boats don't have much experience building these boats...Is is still really a Schiada?

The same could be said of Eliminator, or Stoker, etc.

 

[Cole Trickle]

I don't think it's a matter of it being "bad" for Hallett? It's just going to be different.

If you took Lee, Stan, and the rest of the key players out of the Schiada build and sent all their molds and equipment to Havasu and have a bunch of guys who, while have experience building boats don't have much experience building these boats...Is is still really a Schiada?

The same could be said of Eliminator, or Stoker, etc.

I don't think you can put schiada in the same arena as all of he other builders....

They are more like a Stan craft or say chip foose for hotrods. No time table and no standard production just custom one off stuff made on a manual mill.

 

[Duck'ed_Up]

Different boats and different buyers....

I would rather have a 65k 210 than a 59k 230.

True that!

 

[highvoltagehands]

For those of you in the market for a Hallett/Nordic build that are questioning whether this is good or bad. Let your conscience be your guide and Step up to a Laveycraft! BNAG!

 

[Racey]

I don't think it's a matter of it being "bad" for Hallett? It's just going to be different.

If you took Lee, Stan, and the rest of the key players out of the Schiada build and sent all their molds and equipment to Havasu and have a bunch of guys who, while have experience building boats don't have much experience building these boats...Is is still really a Schiada?

The same could be said of Eliminator, or Stoker, etc.

The nicest rigged Schiadas out there didn't come out of Schiada's shop, and that is not a slight to them, they build a phenomenal boat, but the absolute nicest ones with the highest attention to detail came from 3rd party shops buying bare hulls like Prime, Brummett, or Racey (my old man), etc....

The same argument could be made back 20-30 years ago when Spindler bought the company from Leonard.... But the quality didn't go down hill then either, even though the Schiada family is long out of the biz, the legacy and name continued and got even better...

 

[BHC Vic]

The nicest rigged Schiadas out there didn't come out of Schiada's shop, and that is not a slight to them, they build a phenomenal boat, but the absolute nicest ones with the highest attention to detail came from 3rd party shops buying bare hulls like Prime, Brummett, or Racey (my old man), etc....

The same argument could be made back 20-30 years ago when Spindler bought the company from Leonard.... But the quality didn't go down hill then either, even though the Schiada family is long out of the biz, the legacy and name continued and got even better...

I don't really know the history. And I don't know if Nordic is re badging or just building halletts under their roof. I guess time will tell. I don't think it's bad just different. Halletts ride good because they are heavy. I don't know. I don't really care as I'm Not in the market. Just always been a big fan of hallett and hoping the change isn't much of a change 😊

 

[Singleton]

I don't really know the history. And I don't know if Nordic is re badging or just building halletts under their roof. I guess time will tell. I don't think it's bad just different. Halletts ride good because they are heavy. I don't know. I don't really care as I'm Not in the market. Just always been a big fan of hallett and hoping the change isn't much of a change [emoji4]

Did you read the article and quotes from Randy? He has already stated, Nordic and Hallett will be two separate entities built at the same location. The Hallett name will continue and all hulls will have a Hallett HIN.

 

[Racey]

Did you read the article and quotes from Randy? He has already stated, Nordic and Hallett will be two separate entities built at the same location. The Hallett name will continue and all hulls will have a Hallett HIN.

Hey, what the hell do you think you're doing going straight to the source when we could keep speculating about conjured up rumors.... Way to ruin it for everyone... :lmao

 

["NOEXCUSES"]

What article?

The separate brands attract there own buyers.

I like how hallett stayed true to themsleves and their customers by not doing gel schemes that riveled the the tattoos of the day. stretched cell structure, tribals, checkers, lightning, etc.

Nordic well look at them. Not only have they re-branded themselves they've absorbed an icon. They've really stepped up to eliminator status. They have a COMPLETE line up and can still knock out high end customs.

Not sure why I typed this lol, must be bored today, lol.

 

[RiverDave]

Would be pretty easy for one of the Nordic guys to come in and say what the plans are. Don't know why it needs to be a surprise

I talked to Randy Davis on Friday, as well as Jerry Barron. I'm writing the article tonight and will have it done for Monday am.

Nobody is holding out or making anything a surprise. I do think it's a little unreasonable to be asking long term plans, when they have owned the company for less than 72 hours. Give them a minute to at least get everything out here.

 

[steak&lobster]

Did you read the article and quotes from Randy? He has already stated, Nordic and Hallett will be two separate entities built at the same location. The Hallett name will continue and all hulls will have a Hallett HIN.

NO. It's more fun to say you knew all along this was going to happen and then question and speculate the future of Hallett/Nordic

 

[steak&lobster]

I talked to Randy Davis on Friday, as well as Jerry Barron. I'm writing the article tonight and will have it done for Monday am.

Nobody is holding out or making anything a surprise. I do think it's a little unreasonable to be asking long term plans, when they have owned the company for less than 72 hours. Give them a minute to at least get everything out here.

RD I have it from a great source that Vic is in fact buying Nordic, Hallett, and DCB and appointing himself President of Communications and Operations. . .

 

[l84theriv]

[QUOTE="NOEXCUSES";2769312]What article?

The separate brands attract there own buyers.

I like how hallett stayed true to themsleves and their customers by not doing gel schemes that riveled the the tattoos of the day. stretched cell structure, tribals, checkers, lightning, etc.

Nordic well look at them. Not only have they re-branded themselves they've absorbed an icon. They've really stepped up to eliminator status. They have a COMPLETE line up and can still knock out high end customs.

Not sure why I typed this lol, must be bored today, lol.[/QUOTE]

Go to the "Speed on the Water" forum on here.

 

[BHC Vic]

I talked to Randy Davis on Friday, as well as Jerry Barron. I'm writing the article tonight and will have it done for Monday am.

Nobody is holding out or making anything a surprise. I do think it's a little unreasonable to be asking long term plans, when they have owned the company for less than 72 hours. Give them a minute to at least get everything out here.

I'm not asking anything Dave. Just said it wouldn't be hard to sign on and make a post. If they did and I missed it my bad. Like I said makes no difference to me I'm not in the market for anything in that area. As far as secrets. The whole sale was. They told you it wasn't happening, gelcoater didn't know, and it wouldn't be hard for them to make an announcement. I didn't see an article and i don't know who Randy is so obviously I missed something. Anyways that's all

 

[River Lynchmob]

I'm not asking anything Dave. Just said it wouldn't be hard to sign on and make a post. If they did and I missed it my bad. Like I said makes no difference to me I'm not in the market for anything in that area. As far as secrets. The whole sale was. They told you it wasn't happening, gelcoater didn't know, and it wouldn't be hard for them to make an announcement. I didn't see an article and i don't know who Randy is so obviously I missed something. Anyways that's all

Why would "someone" come on here and explain what they are going to do? "They" don't owe anyone anything at this point. Shit...they haven't even moved yet.

They didn't say the sale wasn't happening, they said they weren't closing their doors. When you are an owner selling a business it's not something you post up and talk about. What if you did and it didn't go through? Can imagine the conjecture that would go on here? Randy Davis couldn't afford it, Hallett isn't a saleable company.

Y'all need to sit back and see what Randy and company have planned. People tend to learn a lot more when they listen instead of talking...this is not directed at you before you ask...just a general statement.

 

[Hammer]

Lmao, here comes round 2 of the boatstradamuses telling us how it's the end of Hallett..... In case you didn't notice Randy took Nordic from a small, mid-tier, local manufacturer to world class in under 10 years. Go look at the Nordic models offered, and quality of the builds before, and after the change of ownership.

If you think this is bad for the Hallett brand you are smoking crack. Randy and the crew he has assembled over the years know what the hell they are doing, and they are damn good at it. This aint his first rodeo.

"boatstradamuses". Noted [emoji23]

 

[BHC Vic]

Why would "someone" come on here and explain what they are going to do? "They" don't owe anyone anything at this point. Shit...they haven't even moved yet.

They didn't say the sale wasn't happening, they said they weren't closing their doors. When you are an owner selling a business it's not something you post up and talk about. What if you did and it didn't go through? Can imagine the conjecture that would go on here? Randy Davis couldn't afford it, Hallett isn't a saleable company.

Y'all need to sit back and see what Randy and company have planned. People tend to learn a lot more when they listen instead of talking...this is not directed at you before you ask...just a general statement.

This is a place for open discussion. If everyone sat back and didn't say anything I'm not sure how that would work out. 😊

 

[CLdrinker]

I'm not asking anything Dave. Just said it wouldn't be hard to sign on and make a post. If they did and I missed it my bad. Like I said makes no difference to me I'm not in the market for anything in that area. As far as secrets. The whole sale was. They told you it wasn't happening, gelcoater didn't know, and it wouldn't be hard for them to make an announcement. I didn't see an article and i don't know who Randy is so obviously I missed something. Anyways that's all

Vic can you kindly point me in the direction of any past threads where a boat manufacture owner has posted? I don't recall any at the moment. And while you are at it could you find me some posts by the owner of Cobra? Every time I search Cobra boats on here all I get are threads about you "thinking of removing the catalytic converters"

 

[steak&lobster]

Vic can you kindly point me in the direction of any past threads where a boat manufacture has posted? I don't recall any at the moment. And while you are at it could you find me some posts by the owner of Cobra? Every time I search Cobra boats on here all I get are threads about you "thinking of removing the catalytic converters"

Now that's funny Did said catalytic converters get removed??? What was the result???

 

[NicPaus]

Vic can you kindly point me in the direction of any past threads where a boat manufacture has posted? I don't recall any at the moment. And while you are at it could you find me some posts by the owner of Cobra? Every time I search Cobra boats on here all I get are threads about you "thinking of removing the catalytic converters"

Not the owner but John from Nordic posted a lot of the new builds. Always looked forward to his posts. Talked to him at Desert Storm about adding a swim step to my Cobra.

I have since met Jeff as he now stays at Echo on occasion, from what I learned best for them to stay off forums. Maybe why John quit posting for Nordic.

Hallett is what got Vic into boating, along with many others. More of a personal thing I imagine. Might have to have him meet up with me for a shop tour of Nordic when I get a chance to get my swim step added. See how they operate compared to others.

 

[BHC Vic]

Vic can you kindly point me in the direction of any past threads where a boat manufacture has posted? I don't recall any at the moment. And while you are at it could you find me some posts by the owner of Cobra? Every time I search Cobra boats on here all I get are threads about you "thinking of removing the catalytic converters"

I could but I'm not going to 😊

 

[Hammer]

Not the owner but John from Nordic posted a lot of the new builds. Always looked forward to his posts. Talked to him at Desert Storm about adding a swim step to my Cobra.

I have since met Jeff as he now stays at Echo on occasion, from what I learned best for them to stay off forums. Maybe why John quit posting for Nordic.

Hallett is what got Vic into boating, along with many others. More of a personal thing I imagine. Might have to have him meet up with me for a shop tour of Nordic when I get a chance to get my swim step added. See how they operate compared to others.

Might want to be careful. Vic may try and tell them to unionize. [emoji85]

 

[Enen]

Might want to be careful. Vic may try and tell them to unionize. [emoji85]

Nah, unions are all a bunch of alcoholics.

 

[Ziggy]

Not the owner but John from Nordic posted a lot of the new builds. Always looked forward to his posts. Talked to him at Desert Storm about adding a swim step to my Cobra.

I have since met Jeff as he now stays at Echo on occasion, from what I learned best for them to stay off forums. Maybe why John quit posting for Nordic.

Hallett is what got Vic into boating, along with many others. More of a personal thing I imagine. Might have to have him meet up with me for a shop tour of Nordic when I get a chance to get my swim step added. See how they operate compared to others.

Maybe, just maybe, John is too busy to fart around on the internet.

 

[Gelcoater]

Vic can you kindly point me in the direction of any past threads where a boat manufacture has posted? I don't recall any at the moment. And while you are at it could you find me some posts by the owner of Cobra? Every time I search Cobra boats on here all I get are threads about you "thinking of removing the catalytic converters"

You've never been down to the From the Mold section before?

HallettBoats is one of Nicks grandsons, he was posting regularly down there with new builds and updates.

Gary, Shueman here on the board posts on behalf of Eliminator in there as well.

Beyond them, you do have a point.
There might be a reason

 

[Gelcoater]

[SUB][/SUB]

Maybe, just maybe, John is too busy to fart around on the internet.

I don't think it's a coincidence their gelcoater and John don't post anymore

 

[NicPaus]

Maybe, just maybe, John is too busy to fart around on the internet.

If it brought in sales I am sure He would make time. Even Gene from Howards only post was to list a Unicorn as it would bring a sale $$. He is most likely reading this now. They just don't have time for the drama and haters, reality is there is more negative comments than positive on forums.

And I am sure they are slammed, He still said he can get me in when needed just give him a heads up.

 

[CLdrinker]

You've never been down to the From the Mold section before?

HallettBoats is one of Nicks grandsons, he was posting regularly down there with new builds and updates.

Gary, Shueman here on the board posts on behalf of Eliminator in there as well.

Beyond them, you do have a point.
There might be a reason

I meant to include "owner" in my post my bad.

It was meant as sarcasm that owners of boat companies don't hang around social media sites. Vic seems to think that RDP posts should be the first thing on Nordics mind while making this huge transition.

I am very familiar with the from the mold section, I day dream there allot lol

 

[NicPaus]

Might want to be careful. Vic may try and tell them to unionize. [emoji85]

Lol. I will be there giving the reasons not to. I get the Union koolaid from all the Longshoreman and Refinery Guys as those are the main occupation here for Guys are age that pay.

Several of my River neighbors are Union Construction company owners foreman and Employees. I respect them the same different game but they are hard workers and I enjoy picking there brains about building highrises in downtown la.

Me I only drink my own koolaid and feed off the older guy's I know in the trades that out work me even though I have been trying to get in 90-100 hour weeks. I should just get a normal job but I don't think I ever will.

 

[Hammer]

Lol. I will be there giving the reasons not to. I get the Union koolaid from all the Longshoreman and Refinery Guys as those are the main occupation here for Guys are age that pay.

Several of my River neighbors are Union Construction company owners foreman and Employees. I respect them the same different game but they are hard workers and I enjoy picking there brains about building highrises in downtown la.

Me I only drink my own koolaid and feed off the older guy's I know in the trades that out work me even though I have been trying to get in 90-100 hour weeks. I should just get a normal job but I don't think I ever will.

[emoji1303]

I have the same sentiments and we probably know a few of the same people that are in downtown. I have a regular construction Job (PM) job and every time I think I can do it better I remind myself of what our payroll expenses are in CA. Lol

Back to boats...


Rumor has it Nordic is building a "true tunnel" 43' Deck boat out of Hallett 285 deck boat mold. Going to go after the DCB/Skater market.

Real game changer. Triple 1350 Mercs with a jet for propulsion. [emoji23]

 

[ArizonaKevin]

[SUB][/SUB]

I don't think it's a coincidence their gelcoater and John don't post anymore

Didn't their gelcoater (retaocleg) move over to e-ticket? Or is he back with nordic?

 

[RiverDave]

I'm not asking anything Dave. Just said it wouldn't be hard to sign on and make a post. If they did and I missed it my bad. Like I said makes no difference to me I'm not in the market for anything in that area. As far as secrets. The whole sale was. They told you it wasn't happening, gelcoater didn't know, and it wouldn't be hard for them to make an announcement. I didn't see an article and i don't know who Randy is so obviously I missed something. Anyways that's all

The general manager of Hallett said it wasn't happening. It's likely he didn't know until the sale was complete. When I asked him about it he actually kind of laughed it off to "internet rumor" judging by his tone of the first conversation.

You've never been down to the From the Mold section before?

HallettBoats is one of Nicks grandsons, he was posting regularly down there with new builds and updates.

Gary, Shueman here on the board posts on behalf of Eliminator in there as well.

Beyond them, you do have a point.
There might be a reason

Not really. If someone talked shit to a mfg on here They would be gone. I have thought I have made it clear that rdp isn't the old hotboat.com a 100 times.. but for some reason we never can seem To shrug that image of that old negativity.

If it brought in sales I am sure He would make time. Even Gene from Howards only post was to list a Unicorn as it would bring a sale $$. He is most likely reading this now. They just don't have time for the drama and haters, reality is there is more negative comments than positive on forums.

And I am sure they are slammed, He still said he can get me in when needed just give him a heads up.

Oh they all lurk on here everyday.. lol. I talk to quite a few of them on the regular and they know more about what's going on in here than I do half the time!

 

[Gelcoater]

[emoji1303]

I have the same sentiments and we probably know a few of the same people that are in downtown. I have a regular construction Job (PM) job and every time I think I can do it better I remind myself of what our payroll expenses are in CA. Lol

Back to boats...


Rumor has it Nordic is building a "true tunnel" 43' Deck boat out of Hallett 285 deck boat mold. Going to go after the DCB/Skater market.

Real game changer. Triple 1350 Mercs with a jet for propulsion. [emoji23]

Why would they start with a 285? Going that much bigger?
Thane is a tooling mo-fo, seen him do it.
He knows some stuff about some stuff.

1350 mercs/jet.
That would be pretty rad to see, in almost any platform.:thumbsup
Just because

 

[Hammer]

Why would they start with a 285? Going that much bigger?
Thane is a tooling mo-fo, seen him do it.
He knows some stuff about some stuff.

1350 mercs/jet.
That would be pretty rad to see, in almost any platform.:thumbsup
Just because

I dunno just seem so far out there that people would know it's a joke.