Nordic Buys Hallett!!

[dntnosht]

Like I said, a very wise man.

His boat company is doing better than yours is, so..

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

 

[Gelcoater]

Anyway to travel do a boat and come back?

Why?
I say this with sincerity and respect, they already have the most talented guy in the industry working for them.
They don't need me.
Beyond that, it just wouldn't pencil out $ wise for me to go. 5-6 hours there, 5-6 back, I could tape and spray a basic 270 in the time it takes to travel there and back.

 

[NicPaus]

The boat trader special was $24,999 for a open bow 21 Ultra LX with 350 alpha or big block jet. That was in 2000 when I bought my Ultra new.

With the costs in CA no way can they sell at that price. In 2000 I could build a new house at $50 a sq ft new. Now it is $200 a sq ft.

 

[Racey]

I think I'm the only one that prefers a 255 over a 240...lol

I don't love the looks of an open bow 240...

The 255 is a great looking boat, i agree. It's also one of the most functional ever built, it has a ton of room in the cockpit and the cabin, you can camp and sleep in it comfortably, and you can still easily tow it with a 1/2 ton :thumbsup

 

[Gelcoater]

Cole T, clear some room in your mailbox

 

[Cole Trickle]

Cole T, clear some room in your mailbox

Should be good to go

 

[Abc123]

I've ridden in and driven a buddy's 285 Deck with big Teague power numerous times. That boat hauls ass and feels very solid at speed.:thumbsup

 

[Bobby V]

Why?
I say this with sincerity and respect, they already have the most talented guy in the industry working for them.
They don't need me.
Beyond that, it just wouldn't pencil out $ wise for me to go. 5-6 hours there, 5-6 back, I could tape and spray a basic 270 in the time it takes to travel there and back.

From Riverside it would only be 4 hrs. What if you did several boats at a time and stayed a few days in town. Many people from Havasu commute.

 

[SOCALCRICKETT]

Anybody know if the f2 mold was part of the purchase? It would be interesting to see a nordic cyclone and hallett f2 against each other. Pound for pound i think they are super close in specs with maybe the nordic having a little bigger pad

 

[Ballyhoo]

Who said anything about Magic? If you don't think Hallet's offerings are outdated (Teak Floor/Boring Graphics), then you are incredible blinded by your brand bias. Hallet guys are becoming almost as bad as Schiada owners.

Its a all personal opinions. Yours might be different than others.

 

[UltraLucky]

I don't know what they're running but there not big enough. I can tell you I was a little disappointed in that he handling of my 210 before I modified it. The boat wouldn't tab town enough with the little Bennetts to plow through wakes it always slapped and rode pretty shitty in rough water.

Same issue I had with my 210

 

[138]

Anybody know if the f2 mold was part of the purchase? It would be interesting to see a nordic cyclone and hallett f2 against each other. Pound for pound i think they are super close in specs with maybe the nordic having a little bigger pad

I purchased the f2 molds yeas ago. The bottoms of the big Nordic is wider @ the back in between the strakes. I was told back in the day from Ross that the big bottom started as his fishing boat.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Myself and most people I know would prefer the Hallett of those 2 if were talking about looks. Myself and those I know, don't care for the over the top, flashy look and then having to deal with all that dark vinyl that's been sitting in the summer sun.

I dont like the patterns or colors of that Howard either and the seat stitching is too busy but look at the CONSTRUCTION and DESIGN.

A Nordic interior in a Hallett will be a winner.

 

[shan]

Hallett doesn't build anything today that I would buy, so I don't really care. Sad to see another custom boat builder absorbed, but you have to go where the money is. Flat bills, black socks and graphics that make me want to puke, that's where things are heading.:tbi

 

[Flying_Lavey]

I dont like the patterns or colors of that Howard either and the seat stitching is too busy but look at the CONSTRUCTION and DESIGN.

A Nordic interior in a Hallett will be a winner.

You said APPEARANCE. Not design or construction. I think there are a lot that would prefer either. I really like the L shaped bench but I can see the benefits to 2 captains chairs as well.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

You said APPEARANCE. Not design or construction. I think there are a lot that would prefer either. I really like the L shaped bench but I can see the benefits to 2 captains chairs as well.

Design and construction would be part of the appearance. I'm not saying either one is bad. Those pictures give a snippet of the difference in design and execution. I think the high back seats with glass backs, interior panels with exterior tie ins etc. have a broader appeal today. The colors and artistry vary by personal taste, obviously.

 

[MooreMoney]

If anyone is worried about build quality they need to go tour the Nordic factory. Probably one of the nicest boat factories in the industry. They will take a great company and make it even better. Excited to see the future of hallett/Nordic.

 

[JD D05]

I dont like the patterns or colors of that Howard either and the seat stitching is too busy but look at the CONSTRUCTION and DESIGN.

A Nordic interior in a Hallett will be a winner.

My Nordic has a Hallett interior ha.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

My Nordic has a Hallett interior ha.

Zing!!

 

[JD D05]

Zing!!

When my boat was built Nordic was really backed up and it was done by Arko. It looks just like all the Halletts.

 

[steak&lobster]

When my boat was built Nordic was really backed up and it was done by Arko. It looks just like all the Halletts.

Mine too

 

[Melloyellovector]

My Nordic has a Hallett interior ha.

That's funny one of my halletts has a Nordic interior. Honestly not blown away by it, it's like a owning a craftsmen home with contemporary furniture inside. Things that make you say hmmm.
looks good on its own, but doesn't really match the boat or style. When the vector finished, I'm ripping this fucker apart and making it right also. Just because you have 100 items in your shop that are bad ass doesn't mean they all integrate together functionally or look wise ( talking about the amount of hands that built my 210 )
Nordic builds great boats, hallett built great boats. I'm sure they'll still be great in the end.
the build process with no wood could be great, we'll see how that translates to ride/handling if hulls are lighter etc.
LOF there are few things that Nordic can do to make hallett better. Style and crap your talking about is why hallett and schiada are in their own class of buyers. Styling it like the masses want and bringing costs down cheapens the product line, I'm confident Nordic didn't buy hallett to make it compete with fuckin tahiti's or a budget build, lmao
Not every one likes them, that's fine. But not everyone likes dcb's and all that crazy crap either. From my experience hallett has never had an issue with buyers and or selling boats. From what I understand this was more of a family issue then money or supply and demand. Just my .02
Shit maybe I'll talk to Nordic and be the first 210 v drive ( I don't think it's been done yet )

 

[Cole Trickle]

That's funny one of my halletts has a Nordic interior. Honestly not blown away by it, it's like a owning a craftsmen home with contemporary furniture inside. Things that make you say hmmm.
View attachment 585959 looks good on its own, but doesn't really match the boat or style. When the vector finished, I'm ripping this fucker apart and making it right also. Just because you have 100 items in your shop that are bad ass doesn't mean they all integrate together functionally or look wise ( talking about the amount of hands that built my 210 )
Nordic builds great boats, hallett built great boats. I'm sure they'll still be great in the end.
the build process with no wood could be great, we'll see how that translates to ride/handling if hulls are lighter etc.
LOF there are few things that Nordic can do to make hallett better. Style and crap your talking about is why hallett and schiada are in their own class of buyers. Styling it like the masses want and bringing costs down cheapens the product line, I'm confident Nordic didn't buy hallett to make it compete with fuckin tahiti's or a budget build, lmao
Not every one likes them, that's fine. But not everyone likes dcb's and all that crazy crap either. From my experience hallett has never had an issue with buyers and or selling boats. From what I understand this was more of a family issue then money or supply and demand. Just my .02
Shit maybe I'll talk to Nordic and be the first 210 v drive ( I don't think it's been done yet )

I think they installed those seats to try and save weight and keep the driver more secure while ski racing?

I would definitely go with a seat like bill did with his stoker if I replaced my interior. I agree the Nordic seats don't exactly match the 210 as they are a little too big and round.

 

[Melloyellovector]

I think they installed those seats to try and save weight and keep the driver more secure while ski racing?

I would definitely go with a seat like bill did with his stoker if I replaced my interior. I agree the Nordic seats don't exactly match the 210 as they are a little too big and round.

Arko seats built for the vector, some day they'll be installed ( They're like the boat hugging you saying don't go anywhere )

 

[Cole Trickle]

Arko seats built for the vector, some day they'll be installed ( They're like the boat hugging you saying don't go anywhere )
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Those will look good in the vector....timeless seat for a classic timeless boat.

I think the 210 can take something a little more modern. I'm ok with my seats but I would like to move the drivers seat a little forward and delete the passenger rotation mechanism and move it to the side panel.

I want to put it on wing nuts like a schiada...little extra space would be nice as well.

The passenger gets beat to shit in my boat due to the slop.

I hope Nordic does better side panels with speakers/drink holders.

 

[FlyByWire]

That's my biggest gripe with the industry everyone acts like there barely making any $$ per boat and then you have friends that "know" someone and they get a boat for 30k cheaper than a boat show special.

Exactly my feelings as well. I have friends and know people who have been given amazing deals by a couple different dealers. The same dealers who act like they'll go under if they throw in anodized gauge bezels. [emoji23] I'm almost done with the whole new boat thing.

Eliminator just took 30 grand off their 25 Daytona, and 70 off their fun deck...and you know they're still making money.

 

[RCDave]

I like the Arlo hallett inspired interior in my Cougar.

 

[New to boating]

Deal is done! Don't have all the details yet but Thane and Travis Barron are driving out there right now. Hallett is moving to LHC! Not sure if they will keep the iconic name or put it under the Nordic Brand yet.

Randy (class act) also offered all the current employees a job.

RD

Smart money says you will see further consolidation in the industry with a lot of companies and Ownership that were on life support for years during the "performance boating depression" with dated designs and limited market penetration (except for a few "die hard loyalists" who generally have personal relationships with Ownership) having very limited options to "cash out" when they either get too old or get too tired.

You don't see succession plans with these small companies, what you do see is Ownership getting Older, and tired and in some cases financially on their knees - that's when you will see a "trade" like this happen, and I suspect you will see it more often. The choices become very limited - you sell the molds and tooling for peanuts, (if you even can find a Buyer) or you hope that there is enough brand recognition to create some amount of "enterprise value" - and hopefully you have socked away enough money over a long carrear (or purchased boat storage facilities and shopping centers) to survive if you have almost nothing to sell at the end.

Davis Boat Mfg. dosen't need Nordic cash flow to survive - its a passionate investment for Randy that gives them an edge over the competition - and sets them up for deals like this when they present themselves. My bet is very little cash involved in the trade, maybe some "down line upside" as boats are sold, (just guessing)

I suspect Eliminator follows this same path at some point and many others when Ownership comes to terms with what these things are really worth in the open market when you are ready to sell.....and the REAL Buyer pool is very, very limited

It is hard to make money in the Custom Performance Boat business PERIOD, its a progessively shrinking market and has been for 10 years - that's why you see all of the top tier CAT builders building center consoles (with the exception of Skater whos molds are booked 14 months out) , that's how they have survived.

Good luck to Randy, Thane, John & Co - and all of the great people at Nordic - honorable people who know the drill and have the skill set ........

 

[River Lynchmob]

Arko seats built for the vector, some day they'll be installed ( They're like the boat hugging you saying don't go anywhere )
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Very similar to the style we had in ours...they look good... you'll be happy with them.

 

[BHC Vic]

After all this I would still rather buy s 10 year old hallett over a new one built by Nordic. This will end up like the magics or ultras. Well if you bought one during these years it's solid. If you bought one during these years not worth as much type a deal. You lose the timeless graphics and the teak floors in my opinion it's no longer a hallett. Like someone else said it's the end of an era. A hallett won't be a hallett and won't ever be the same

 

[Runs2rch]

I don't know what they're running but there not big enough. I can tell you I was a little disappointed in that he handling of my 210 before I modified it. The boat wouldn't tab town enough with the little Bennetts to plow through wakes it always slapped and rode pretty shitty in rough water.

Now with a -2 shorty and Dana hp1000 tabs it's an easy but you need to drive it due to bow steer.

A 210 rides better floating over the top then trying to plow through. I don't understand why everyone wants to tab down and push the boat through. I can give you a smooth ride in mine.

Now at speed it is a different story. I run a little more tab. Otherwise it can be a handful.

 

[Ballyhoo]

After all this I would still rather buy s 10 year old hallett over a new one built by Nordic. This will end up like the magics or ultras. Well if you bought one during these years it's solid. If you bought one during these years not worth as much type a deal. You lose the timeless graphics and the teak floors in my opinion it's no longer a hallett. Like someone else said it's the end of an era. A hallett won't be a hallett and won't ever be the same

I see what your saying when you compare an original Hallett to a Nordic Hallett. They will be different but I dont believe that the quality will suffer. They might get better. Cant agree to comparing it with anything Magic. Sorry, I feel that Hallett and Nordic are different levels of craftsmanship.

 

[RCDave]

After all this I would still rather buy s 10 year old hallett over a new one built by Nordic. This will end up like the magics or ultras. Well if you bought one during these years it's solid. If you bought one during these years not worth as much type a deal. You lose the timeless graphics and the teak floors in my opinion it's no longer a hallett. Like someone else said it's the end of an era. A hallett won't be a hallett and won't ever be the same

In my opinion Magics and ultras are not in the same league as halletts and Nordics. I doubt Nordic will let hallett quality slide. Actually I think they will step it up some

 

[Cole Trickle]

A 210 rides better floating over the top then trying to plow through. I don't understand why everyone wants to tab down and push the boat through. I can give you a smooth ride in mine.

Now at speed it is a different story. I run a little more tab. Otherwise it can be a handful.

Not my experience at all...mine would not run with out hopping and slapping.

Could have been the 3 blade that came with the boat but I wasn't all that impressed.

Now I can tab down and trim up and the boat will run hard straight through it.

 

[Cole Trickle]

After all this I would still rather buy s 10 year old hallett over a new one built by Nordic. This will end up like the magics or ultras. Well if you bought one during these years it's solid. If you bought one during these years not worth as much type a deal. You lose the timeless graphics and the teak floors in my opinion it's no longer a hallett. Like someone else said it's the end of an era. A hallett won't be a hallett and won't ever be the same

You're nuts....

Go climb around a new Nordic....there rigging and materials are light years ahead of Halletts. Shit they are light years around all but a few west coast builders.

Honestly I would be super bummed if I just had a Hallett built and this happened because the new build will be superior.

Gel is determined by the customer the only reason people keep saying Halletts are timeless is because that have probably only built 5 210 or 270 over the past 10 years. They are classic because most are 15-20 years old. There are plenty of ugly from every manufacturer because the client is always right.

Watch and see what they put out....

 

[Runs2rch]

Not my experience at all...mine would not run with out hopping and slapping.

Could have been the 3 blade that came with the boat but I wasn't all that impressed.

Now I can tab down and trim up and the boat will run hard straight through it.

I bet that was it. Our 27 was the same with 3 blades. 4 blades gave it the lift needed. Was night and day.

I have not run a Bravo one yet but with the Rev4 it carries the nose.

 

[BHC Vic]

I'm not really saying quality. More style and possibly performance. It wil just be different and it won't be the same. It won't be hallett anymore.

 

[Runs2rch]

You're nuts....

Go climb around a new Nordic....there rigging and materials are light years ahead of Halletts. Shit they are light years around all but a few west coast builders.

Honestly I would be super bummed if I just had a Hallett built and this happened because the new build will be superior.

Gel is determined by the customer the only reason people keep saying Halletts are timeless is because that have probably only built 1 210 or 270 over the past 10 years. They are classic because most are 15-20 years old. There are plenty of ugly from every manufacturer because the client is always right.

Watch and see what they put out....

There are ugly boats from every builder. Like you said. Customer is always right hahaha

 

[FreeBird236]

Not my experience at all...mine would not run with out hopping and slapping.

Could have been the 3 blade that came with the boat but I wasn't all that impressed.

Now I can tab down and trim up and the boat will run hard straight through it.

I also bury the nose in the rough, and it rides much better.

I don't have tabs and not trying to be a jerk, but could you explain how tabbing down to bury the nose then trimming up to raise the nose back up works? Is it just a fine adjustment?

 

[Cole Trickle]

I also bury the nose in the rough, and it rides much better.

I don't have tabs and not trying to be a jerk, but could you explain how tabbing down to bury the nose then trimming up to raise the nose back up works? Is it just a fine adjustment?

Correct.... with my combo I can get a happy medium of plowing the nose and more speed trimming the drive.

The boat tops out at about 60 with the tabs down/drive down when I trim up with tabs down it still plows and will run 70.

I'm sure it's lifting the bow a tad.

 

[Bigbore500r]

Nordic hasn't even shipped the molds yet, and people are over here saying "RIP teak floors" and "there goes the quality". Lol.

 

[Racey]

Lmao, here comes round 2 of the boatstradamuses telling us how it's the end of Hallett..... In case you didn't notice Randy took Nordic from a small, mid-tier, local manufacturer to world class in under 10 years. Go look at the Nordic models offered, and quality of the builds before, and after the change of ownership.

If you think this is bad for the Hallett brand you are smoking crack. Randy and the crew he has assembled over the years know what the hell they are doing, and they are damn good at it. This aint his first rodeo.

 

[Runs2rch]

Nordic hasn't even shipped the molds yet, and people are over here saying "RIP teak floors" and "there goes the quality". Lol.

They could get ruined/lost in shipping!!!! :eek

 

[Racey]

They could get ruined/lost in shipping!!!! :eek

 

[NicPaus]

I would much rather deal with Nordic on a new purchase than the old Hallett. I think we will see a lot more produced and quality will not be compromised but improved. I think the price and build time will be better as well.

 

[River Lynchmob]

You're nuts....

Go climb around a new Nordic....there rigging and materials are light years ahead of Halletts. Shit they are light years around all but a few west coast builders.

Honestly I would be super bummed if I just had a Hallett built and this happened because the new build will be superior.

Gel is determined by the customer the only reason people keep saying Halletts are timeless is because that have probably only built 5 210 or 270 over the past 10 years. They are classic because most are 15-20 years old. There are plenty of ugly from every manufacturer because the client is always right.

Watch and see what they put out....

I agree with almost all of this. People buy the boats determine the graphics. Hallett buyers will still like classic Hallett lines and designs.

There are so many assumptions and jumping to conclusions and speculation it's crazy. Randy has probably has owned a dozen Halletts over the years. I highly doubt he's going to change the "soul" of the boat. He will improve them by getting wood out and some rigging will be improved but bet my bottom dollar will leave the rest of it alone. He didn't get to where he is in life by not being on the front lines and having his finger on the pulse of what's going on. Also with having Travis there you have a direct family member still involved on a daily basis.

Everyone needs to sit back and let things unfold, let a few boats be built and then pass judgement...my .02.

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

I also bury the nose in the rough, and it rides much better.

I don't have tabs and not trying to be a jerk, but could you explain how tabbing down to bury the nose then trimming up to raise the nose back up works? Is it just a fine adjustment?

My boat is the same. In rough water, I tab down and trim up and can run through anything.

 

[wsuwrhr]

Lmao, here comes round 2 of the boatstradamuses telling us how it's the end of Hallett..... In case you didn't notice Randy took Nordic from a small, mid-tier, local manufacturer to world class in under 10 years. Go look at the Nordic models offered, and quality of the builds before, and after the change of ownership.

If you think this is bad for the Hallett brand you are smoking crack. Randy and the crew he has assembled over the years know what the hell they are doing, and they are damn good at it. This aint his first rodeo.

Hands down.

This thread is getting as funny as the other two prior, proclaiming "nothing to see here, move along"

 

[BHC Vic]

Would be pretty easy for one of the Nordic guys to come in and say what the plans are. Don't know why it needs to be a surprise

 

[milkmoney]

I would like to jus say.

" SCHIADA"
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