Newport Cops-F'n D-Bags-BASH THREAD

[McRib]

It is total bullshit...

But cops don't always stick together when wrong is being done. As a retired Sergeant, I wouldn't tolerate this shit. The cop would be with days on the beach if I caught this crap going down.
Negligent training.
Negligent supervision...

I agree not all cops stick together but in this day and age everyone has to play ball. Anyone goin against the grain in a dept like newport will prob quickly find a pink slip in there locker.

Cops suck until they prove they dont suck.

I really hope ur nephew steps to the plate and rides this to the end. This guy doesent deserve a badge. He deserves the unemployment line.

Hey FBT! Drunk tank. No citation no paper trail no court appearance? Intake and release paperwork only?

 

[PVHCA]

If Billy would have been drinking this whole situation could have been avoided and the arrest legit, just sayin:thumbsup

Absolutely, pretty much what he said.

Brothas been going threw it for years. Just saying

I don't know what you speak of, I don't see people that way, everyone's "White", LOL!!

 

[Flyinbowtie]

[QUOTE

Hey FBT! Drunk tank. No citation no paper trail no court appearance? Intake and release paperwork only?[/QUOTE]

There is the process called 849(b)..
Arrest was only a detention for sobriety, released no charges when able to care for self.

Makes no damn difference in this case.
Billy was arrested, he was taken under color of authority and placed in a jail for a crime he was not guilty of.
His rights were violated when the cop chose to hook him up. Up til then...cop contacting what on first appearance looks to be a intoxicated person..cop investigates, determines is/isn't, okay.
Good cop investigates, sees Billy isn't intoxicated, can care for himself, says have a nice day and leaves.
Cop doesn't do his job, hooks Billy up...
849(b) is not going to change the core of this case, IMHO.

 

[McRib]

[QUOTE

Hey FBT! Drunk tank. No citation no paper trail no court appearance? Intake and release paperwork only?

There is the process called 849(b)..
Arrest was only a detention for sobriety, released no charges when able to care for self.

Makes no damn difference in this case.
Billy was arrested, he was taken under color of authority and placed in a jail for a crime he was not guilty of.
His rights were violated when the cop chose to hook him up. Up til then...cop contacting what on first appearance looks to be a intoxicated person..cop investigates, determines is/isn't, okay.
Good cop investigates, sees Billy isn't intoxicated, can care for himself, says have a nice day and leaves.
Cop doesn't do his job, hooks Billy up...
849(b) is not going to change the core of this case, IMHO.[/QUOTE]

So this becomes billys word against the cops word? Sounds lije his innosense will be hard to prove. The intake office will not have any recelection of him saying "ur not drunk" there is chum in the water. Fuck newport

 

[Flyinbowtie]

It will get much deeper than that, what with the witnesses that can be called, and the ADA attorney will know the drill.
I am not gonna put it all out here, but I betcha the federal civil rights violation trial in federal court will have the booking officer in a sling...the video of the booking room...from the cop car...this isn't going to go away.
Billy needs a very thick stack of money to sit on, and NBPD needs to have their officers in training, and this cop needs days on the beach at worst...frankly his attitude as quoted tells me he needs to be flipping burgers someplace.

 

[PVHCA]

My nephew said he couldn't believe that the cop was so arrogant, all he wanted was a chance to explain, said the cop just didn't care at all. My nephew said he laughed because he couldn't believe what was happening. I asked if he got pissed or rude he said hell no, god only knows what would have happened then.

The shit that stinks here is the cop will probably get a small warning put in his file and brushed under the rug unless lawyers get involved, seems to me admin needs to do some harsh discipline and as FBT says MORE training. I see the UPD give a lot of respect to the transients behind my building and they just get drunk all day, LOL!!

 

[havasuhusker]

Sorry to hear about your nephew. Crappy situation for sure. I hope it all works out in the end for him and your family.

 

[t&y]

My nephew said he couldn't believe that the cop was so arrogant, all he wanted was a chance to explain, said the cop just didn't care at all. My nephew said he laughed because he couldn't believe what was happening. I asked if he got pissed or rude he said hell no, god only knows what would have happened then.

The shit that stinks here is the cop will probably get a small warning put in his file and brushed under the rug unless lawyers get involved, seems to me admin needs to do some harsh discipline and as FBT says MORE training. I see the UPD give a lot of respect to the transients behind my building and they just get drunk all day, LOL!!

I agree with what FBT has been saying for the most part.... but will add NewPort beach on New Years and July 4th is an arrest waiting to happen if you are going to be walking around. It does get crazy down there and I'd bet the agency pretty much has an arrest everyone attitude. I dont agree with or practice that attitude.

Your nephew needs to start by filing a formal complaint with the agency. Get the signed copy of the complaint being taken in (Usually signed by the Watch Commander or Lieutenant) and keep that on file. Will this really do anything, probably not, but it will get a paper trail going and establish that for later proceedings if he chooses to pusue it. When he goes down there he should have as many witnesses as possible with him. Probably easier to schedule the meeting if NBPD will do that.

Honestly, if what you are saying is true, and your nephew hadn't had anything to drink at all, that cop wouldn't last where I work. We don't tolerate idiots, there are much bigger issues we need to deal with. That being said, given his disability and what the cops probably observed as an abnormal gate, IF HE HAD.... any alcohol on his breath it's going to be hard to call it an illegal/unlawfull arrest. Lack of training and common sense AT A MINIMUM.

 

[PVHCA]

I agree with what FBT has been saying for the most part.... but will add NewPort beach on New Years and July 4th is an arrest waiting to happen if you are going to be walking around. It does get crazy down there and I'd bet the agency pretty much has an arrest everyone attitude. I dont agree with or practice that attitude.

Your nephew needs to start by filing a formal complaint with the agency. Get the signed copy of the complaint being taken in (Usually signed by the Watch Commander or Lieutenant) and keep that on file. Will this really do anything, probably not, but it will get a paper trail going and establish that for later proceedings if he chooses to pusue it. When he goes down there he should have as many witnesses as possible with him. Probably easier to schedule the meeting if NBPD will do that.

Honestly, if what you are saying is true, and your nephew hadn't had anything to drink at all, that cop wouldn't last where I work. We don't tolerate idiots, there are much bigger issues we need to deal with. That being said, given his disability and what the cops probably observed as an abnormal gate, IF HE HAD.... any alcohol on his breath it's going to be hard to call it an illegal/unlawfull arrest. Lack of training and common sense AT A MINIMUM.

Not a drop of booze on him, he had just arrived after driving to the beach for the week.

My brother and S.I.L. and he I hope are doing all the proper paperwork, I will keep this updated.

 

[boatpi]

Soooo u know, the police do NOT have to read a Miranda warning in this case, they DO NOT give a breath or blood test, just objective symptoms, write it, and book him. He would normally be released under 649B. No charges will be filed.

Newport is a mess on 7-4, has been for decades, basically if you are among others that are drinking heavily, expect the worst. Sort of a warning bell.

As far as a civil rights suit, he had better have alot more than what you described to be successful. U can file a complaint with PD, and they will investigate. That may be your only satisfaction if any.

I don't like to pre judge, so unless u or a sober reliable witness was present, overhearing most of the encounter, don't expect much. In the eyes of the 647F law, and Supreme Court decisions back in the 1970's, being drunk in public is about a nothing, book and release. As I recall it is a nondetainable crime and might not even show on the state rap sheet.

Just some reasonable views from 30+ years in LE and 8 as a PI. There is a time when to just let go and move on in life.

 

[milkmoney]

sorry to read this whole story about your nephew hil....if it was me i would sue the living shit out of the city and have that officer put on the street and the bread line. then when he has no badge or gun to make him tough anymore...send some of the godfathers boys down and beat his ass to a pulp after all said and done...

i dont no why this pisses me off, its no wonder people hate cops... cops are as crooked as horse racing, and if you know anything about horse racing you will understand my comment....

i myself rarely have interacting with the law/popo..jus stay away from them.. and yes there are good ones and bad ones of course, i feel sorry for the good ones...

 

[Old Texan]

I'm curious how this cop could go onto private property and arrest this kid on so little. If this is possible, anyone who stumbles while walking down the street is subject to arrest.

So many rights were violated or at a minimum, abused, from the desciption of what went on. If a PD is this F-d up, a state/federal investigation is long overdue. Hopefully Billy can see what his responsibility is to society here. The next person jailed for no reason in that atmosphere may not be so fortunate to walk out after 8 hours. He and his family need to press and get a media onslaught going to push the case.

 

[Loelco]

So, let me get this straight, the PO has the right to fuck with a inncoent man (disabled at that), lock him up for the night for nothing, violate his rights up one and down the other, and your response is "Let go and move on in life?" Excuse me while I give up some more civil liberties so you can keep on being the high school bully. Have a nice day.

 

[t&y]

I'm curious how this cop could go onto private property and arrest this kid on so little. If this is possible, anyone who stumbles while walking down the street is subject to arrest.

From what we know the cops observed him in a public place walking to and from the liqour store. The fact that they contacted him at the end of his walk is kinda irrelavant. It's not a get outta jail free card as soon as you hit private property.

Not excusing the idiocy behind this particular arrest, just explaining how that type of observation arrest usually occurs.

 

[PVHCA]

Soooo u know, the police do NOT have to read a Miranda warning in this case, they DO NOT give a breath or blood test, just objective symptoms, write it, and book him. He would normally be released under 649B. No charges will be filed.

Newport is a mess on 7-4, has been for decades, basically if you are among others that are drinking heavily, expect the worst. Sort of a warning bell.

As far as a civil rights suit, he had better have alot more than what you described to be successful. U can file a complaint with PD, and they will investigate. That may be your only satisfaction if any.

I don't like to pre judge, so unless u or a sober reliable witness was present, overhearing most of the encounter, don't expect much. In the eyes of the 647F law, and Supreme Court decisions back in the 1970's, being drunk in public is about a nothing, book and release. As I recall it is a nondetainable crime and might not even show on the state rap sheet.

Just some reasonable views from 30+ years in LE and 8 as a PI. There is a time when to just let go and move on in life.

Not gonna start with you, I'm not pissed or upset but if this is how you feel and think things within a PD should be handled may I advise retirement for you?

So, let me get this straight, the PO has the right to fuck with a inncoent man (disabled at that), lock him up for the night for nothing, violate his rights up one and down the other, and your response is "Let go and move on in life?" Excuse me while I give up some more civil liberties so you can keep on being the high school bully. Have a nice day.

No Shit, and cops wonder why so many feel the way they do about abusive cops and f'd up PD's.

 

[PVHCA]

From what we know the cops observed him in a public place walking to and from the liqour store. The fact that they contacted him at the end of his walk is kinda irrelavant. It's not a get outta jail free card as soon as you hit private property.

Not excusing the idiocy behind this particular arrest, just explaining how that type of observation arrest usually occurs.

Yep he says he noticed the cop watching him both ways to and from the liquor store. When he grabbed him he wouldn't even let him offer an explanation.

Like my nephew said to me this morning, sad that a man with so much authority can be so stupid and so un-educated.

 

[spectra3279]

That sucks. And then cops bitch and threaten people when they try to film the atrocities

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[slowride]

Soooo u know, the police do NOT have to read a Miranda warning in this case, they DO NOT give a breath or blood test, just objective symptoms, write it, and book him. He would normally be released under 649B. No charges will be filed.

Newport is a mess on 7-4, has been for decades, basically if you are among others that are drinking heavily, expect the worst. Sort of a warning bell.

As far as a civil rights suit, he had better have alot more than what you described to be successful. U can file a complaint with PD, and they will investigate. That may be your only satisfaction if any.

I don't like to pre judge, so unless u or a sober reliable witness was present, overhearing most of the encounter, don't expect much. In the eyes of the 647F law, and Supreme Court decisions back in the 1970's, being drunk in public is about a nothing, book and release. As I recall it is a nondetainable crime and might not even show on the state rap sheet.

Just some reasonable views from 30+ years in LE and 8 as a PI. There is a time when to just let go and move on in life.

Yeh, NBPD confused him with Dennis Rodman. Yeh, that's the ticket.....

 

[spectra3279]

Shit there are 3 types of people who become cops.

1. The bullies in high-school.

2. The ones who were bullied in high-school.


3. Very few of these. The ones who want to make a difference.


Most cops have a hard time counting to 11 without taking off their shoes.

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[HolyMoly]

Shit there are 3 types of people who become cops.

1. The bullies in high-school.

2. The ones who were bullied in high-school.


3. Very few of these. The ones who want to make a difference.


Most cops have a hard time counting to 11 without taking off their shoes.

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[video=youtube;0SF2gpSB2V0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SF2gpSB2V0[/video]

 

[spectra3279]

What happens to a cop when they take viagra?































They get taller!

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[Old Texan]

From what we know the cops observed him in a public place walking to and from the liqour store. The fact that they contacted him at the end of his walk is kinda irrelavant. It's not a get outta jail free card as soon as you hit private property.

Not excusing the idiocy behind this particular arrest, just explaining how that type of observation arrest usually occurs.

I and all appreciate the explanations BUT I've been around police and security enough through the years to know this is not how things are properly done. It's common sense and proper procedure to at least give sobriety tests of some sort when the smell and typical signs are not present. I cannot see how this can be explained away as any type of proper procedure. And I refuse to believe they can just go onto private property with such poor evidence and haul the kid off.

This guy judging from what we've been told, and there is no evidence to doubt it plus the department's history, again per posts in this thread, lead me to believe this guy is completely unfit for duty and the dept. is a bomb waitng to go off.

 

[Old Texan]

Yep he says he noticed the cop watching him both ways to and from the liquor store. When he grabbed him he wouldn't even let him offer an explanation.

Like my nephew said to me this morning, sad that a man with so much authority can be so stupid and so un-educated.

And that's why your nephew should make this into a public outrage. If not, this idiot's ego is gonna hurt someone else down the road.

 

[Flyinbowtie]

Phil,

In my anger over another case of the badge I wore so proudly being tarnished, I neglected to point you in the right direction, and T&Y did...

-File formal complaint with dept. Follow through on complaint process. Do not let it fall away.
This gets the paper trail going and will start the internal affairs investigation. It should also lock down any video or audio evidence the cop shop is holding, either from the car or in the booking room.
At no time should Billy or his folks back down or agree to an "informal reprimand"

Do not discuss civil litigation in any way, shape, or form with PD. not in writing, not during conversation. Expect interview with P.D. to be taped.

-Contact ADA/Civil rights attorney. Get a damn good one. A damn good one should be easy to find down there. The smell of money will be in the water.

-Let every single family member and other party that was at the event who witnessed this know that you are pursuing a formal complaint, and tell them to not talk to the cop shop about it until the attorney advises them.

I agree with T&Y that this clown should be gone, and in my shop he would be gone, hell we would have done our best to never hire him in the first place.
Phil I am going to pm you my phone numbers and email...anything I can do at all...let me know.

Jeff


Oh and Spectra?

There is another kind.

The guys who beat the living shit out of the bullies when they caught them picking on the smaller, the weaker, or the quieter. The guys who give a damn.
The 90% of cops who are busting their asses every single day, and whom you never hear about.
The 90% who are carrying a 4 year degree, and can sure as fuck count to 11.
Don't burn the whole orchard because every once in a while we get a bad apple or a bad tree.
No one, and I mean no one...hates this kind of shit more than the good guys.
My guts have been churning since reading this last night...

 

[MCnParker]

After reading through all of this I did a quick search and found this, now I have no idea if the number of arrests is higher than normal but something to think about....
http://www.dailypilot.com/news/tn-dpt-0706-roundup-20120705,0,2975418.story

 

[WATERDOG]

After reading through all of this I did a quick search and found this, now I have no idea if the number of arrests is higher than normal but something to think about....
http://www.dailypilot.com/news/tn-dpt-0706-roundup-20120705,0,2975418.story

So one ass of a cop did almost 20% of the busts for entire force. :grumble:
This POS might get a medal.

 

[spectra3279]

Phil,

In my anger over another case of the badge I wore so proudly being tarnished, I neglected to point you in the right direction, and T&Y did...

-File formal complaint with dept. Follow through on complaint process. Do not let it fall away.
This gets the paper trail going and will start the internal affairs investigation. It should also lock down any video or audio evidence the cop shop is holding, either from the car or in the booking room.
At no time should Billy or his folks back down or agree to an "informal reprimand"

Do not discuss civil litigation in any way, shape, or form with PD. not in writing, not during conversation. Expect interview with P.D. to be taped.

-Contact ADA/Civil rights attorney. Get a damn good one. A damn good one should be easy to find down there. The smell of money will be in the water.

-Let every single family member and other party that was at the event who witnessed this know that you are pursuing a formal complaint, and tell them to not talk to the cop shop about it until the attorney advises them.

I agree with T&Y that this clown should be gone, and in my shop he would be gone, hell we would have done our best to never hire him in the first place.
Phil I am going to pm you my phone numbers and email...anything I can do at all...let me know.

Jeff


Oh and Spectra?

There is another kind.

The guys who beat the living shit out of the bullies when they caught them picking on the smaller, the weaker, or the quieter. The guys who give a damn.
The 90% of cops who are busting their asses every single day, and whom you never hear about.
The 90% who are carrying a 4 year degree, and can sure as fuck count to 11.
Don't burn the whole orchard because every once in a while we get a bad apple or a bad tree.
No one, and I mean no one...hates this kind of shit more than the good guys.
My guts have been churning since reading this last night...

See number 3. And they are very few and far between. Those are the real cops. The others are just on a power trip.

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[Wicky]

Ok so got the full scoop from Billy, my brother and bitch S.I.L.

Billy arrived at a home rented by 4 of his friends parents, I guess a pretty big home. Not sure about underage drinking he didn't say but most are 20-21 y.o.'s from school. He and a girl he was with walked across the street for her to buy smokes. Billy noticed the 2 cops starring at him as they entered the liquor store, when he left and crossed the street he noticed them still starring. Let me explain, Billy isn't the typical C.P. patient, yes walks a lil gimpy but speech is fine, he never says to anyone that he's handicapped(he doesn't think he is) unless he's forced ie. this day. He entered onto the patio and the cop immediately came onto the property and yes pulled him out of the crowd of about 25-30 peeps. One of the mothers tried to intervene and the officer said he's drunk, she tried explaining that he had just arrived and had not drank at all, a father came out and tried explaining, same thing was said by the cop, then the cop became rude to anyone trying to explain. My nephew then tried explaining that he has C.P. and that's why he walks the way he does. He asked the cop to breath test him, nope, can I show you my A.D.A. card? Nope. My nephew figured oh well cops an asshole I'll just do what I gotta do. As the cops leaving with my nephew he shouts to the group, "Who want's to be victim number 19?" I guess he was proud that he had arrested 18 under age drinkers that day.

Fast forward to the jail, booking officer looks at my nephew and asks him why he's there, nephew says no idea, booking officer reads paperwork that says public intoxication, he looks at my nephew and says, "your not drunk", nephew says tell the arresting officer that so I can leave or can you blood test or breath test me? Booking officer says, we don't have to, nephew asks him well how do I prove my innocence? Cop says don't know.

Billy sits in jail for the mandatory 8 and gets out and goes to the house to spend a few hours asleep before he tells his parents. When he's leaving the arresting cop is posted out in the area and says to him, "how was your night in jail? Laughed at Billy and proceeded on"

Nothing more to add, no my nephew wasn't drunk, he wasn't disrespectful and he now seems to have a whole different out look on cops and our judicial system. He told his parents that if they contact an attorney it better not be a lawsuit about his C.P. or the like but what he feels as his rights were violated.

Sorry to hear this Phil. No video?

 

[Wicky]

Phil, your nephew got screwed...

I understand his desire to keep the CP out of the lawsuit, I understand it completely and respect the young man for his determination to no let his illness get the best of his life.
But I want you to communicate this message to him.
What if the next time that chickenshit cop arrests someone who has an illness, like him, but hasn't become so adept at dealing with it?
What if the next time the cop arrests some young man, like him, who is just beginning to overcome the issues he is facing, and this incompetent ass destroys ever ounce of self esteem he has struggled to build.
The CP issue damn well needs to be the centerpiece of this lawsuit, as do the other witnesses, the jail cops (went down just like I suspected) and the culture needs to be cleaned up in Newport.
Your nephew is the victim of this, but he can save a whole bunch of other victims by stepping forward. Not "using" his illness as an excuse...but making damn sure no one else suffers the same fate at the hands of this ass.
Phil....if you think a 25 year retired cop who is still proud of his work can help this young man understand he has been given a mission here...let me know. I will pm you my number and he can call me. This needs to be done.

Phil and I had a mutual friend from high school that was at a bar, wasn't drunk, and went to his truck for his asthma inhaler during an asthma attack. He didn't make it in time and ended up lunging and dying over his front seat with his legs hanging out the door. Montclair PD saw this and figured he was just drunk so, they let him be. Next thing, Montclair PD is getting sued for a few cool mil and lose the case. In our litigious society today, cops have to walk a very fine line. Don't get me going on muffler tickets though.

 

[EarpRider]

Do you know for a fact that the arresting officer was a Newport PD officer, OC Sheriff was working Newport that day. Just curious. I know the Chief of Newport very well, he's from Long Beach, very stand up guy.

 

[Buoy]

I've given a fair amount of thought of this sort of thing happening to me.
I had a stroke almost a year ago, and still don't walk very well, and have limited use of my right arm.
It's actually easier to drive than to walk.
But, if I got pulled over and subjected to field sobriety test...
I couldn't walk a line or touch my nose or any of that crap.

 

[Rvrluvr]

sorry to hear this phil

 

[Willie B]

...Sent the link to my cop,...attorney,... and judge friends... ...Not sure if any will chine in???...

...The PD defense will probably be we smelled alcohol on his breath but we simply didn't have the manpower to test everyone taken in's blood alcohol/breath level...

 

[Wicky]

...Have sent the link to all my cop,...attorney,... and judge friends... ...Not sure if they will chine in???...

You must not have heard but, Andy Griffith died the other day! J/K

 

[t&y]

I and all appreciate the explanations BUT I've been around police and security enough through the years to know this is not how things are properly done.

You asked how the cop could go on to private property to make that arrest and I explained how and why. Pretty simple. The rest of the issues around the arrest are very questionable, not the procedure used to do it

Now if your talking about your personal beleifs regarding a cop entering private property to affect an arrest that's a whole other subject and a very small part of the issues here.

 

[PolarBearKing]

...The PD defense will probably be we smelled alcohol on his breath but we simply didn't have the manpower to test everyone taken in's blood alcohol/breath level...

Yep .....and thanks for playing, we have some lovely parting gifts.

 

[Ultracrazy]

Do you know for a fact that the arresting officer was a Newport PD officer, OC Sheriff was working Newport that day. Just curious. I know the Chief of Newport very well, he's from Long Beach, very stand up guy.

OCSD was there but they were running a mobil booking process center.

 

[Ultracrazy]

...Have sent the link to all my cop,...attorney,... and judge friends... ...Not sure if they will chine in???...

...The PD defense will probably be we smelled alcohol on his breath but we simply didn't have the manpower to test everyone taken in's blood alcohol/breath level...

They don't take blood or breath tests on a simple 647F.

 

[J5Daytona]

Soooo u know, the police do NOT have to read a Miranda warning in this case, they DO NOT give a breath or blood test, just objective symptoms, write it, and book him. He would normally be released under 649B. No charges will be filed.

Newport is a mess on 7-4, has been for decades, basically if you are among others that are drinking heavily, expect the worst. Sort of a warning bell.

As far as a civil rights suit, he had better have alot more than what you described to be successful. U can file a complaint with PD, and they will investigate. That may be your only satisfaction if any.

I don't like to pre judge, so unless u or a sober reliable witness was present, overhearing most of the encounter, don't expect much. In the eyes of the 647F law, and Supreme Court decisions back in the 1970's, being drunk in public is about a nothing, book and release. As I recall it is a nondetainable crime and might not even show on the state rap sheet.

Just some reasonable views from 30+ years in LE and 8 as a PI. There is a time when to just let go and move on in life.

FUCK THAT!!! Adopting this roll over and take it attitude is what gives these bad cops their sense of invincibility!! If you have been an officer of the law sworn to protect the public how can you possibly advise someone to take such an apathetic position? If you care about the law you should be concerned about one of your "brothers" twisting it to be disbursed as he sees fit. WTF man!!!!

 

[Willie B]

I've given a fair amount of thought of this sort of thing happening to me.
I had a stroke almost a year ago, and still don't walk very well, and have limited use of my right arm.
It's actually easier to drive than to walk.
But, if I got pulled over and subjected to field sobriety test...
I couldn't walk a line or touch my nose or any of that crap.

...I can identify with you on this... ...I broke my neck 40 years ago,...and due to nerve damage the left sde of my body does not function quite the same as the right... ...Walking at times can be difficult... ...I was in Austin Texas a few years ago and crossed the street on a green light to check out another music venue... ...The bouncer at the front door stopped me and said no way... ...I said why???... ...His response,...I saw you stagger crossing the street... ...I had not been drinking... ...I explained to him that I had broken my neck and that mobility at times was difficult for me... ...I showed him the long scar at the base of my neck and explained about the crushed and severed nerves and spinal fusion... ...His response,...I saw you stagger... ...This guy then put his hand out as if to push me away but fortunately didn't...

...I was fuming, so I went around the corner got out my camera went back up to him and snapped a picture with the flash about 3 inches from his face... ...I knew he wouldn't be able to see for awhile so I just stood back and watched him flounder... ...Paybacks are a bitch... ...Never saw him the rest of the night???...

...I have to give the young man who is the subject of this thread allot of credit for not folding up... ...I was pissed for a month... ...Somewhere I still have the photo of the guy who got flashed...

 

[shintoooo]

...I was fuming, so I went around the corner got out my camera went back up to him and snapped a picture with the flash about 3 inches from his face... ...I knew he wouldn't be able to see for awhile so I just stood back and watched him flounder... ...Paybacks are a bitch... ...Never saw him the rest of the night???...

...I have to give the young man who is the subject of this thread allot of credit for not folding up... ...I was pissed for a month... ...Somewhere I still have the photo of the guy who got flashed...

OK that's Funny

 

[V.O.R.F]

This whole thing sounds like a completely fucked up situation with a cop who clearly needs at the very least a non paid vacation and some serious attitude correction.

but keep this in mind.

Newport beach is consistantly ranked amongst the wealthiest and most desireable places in the USA to live, great schools, very high priced Real Estate, very conservative residents. Santa Ana, which is pretty much the polar opposite, is right next door. Also add in that fact that millions of 909'ers flood the town during the summer months bringing all kinds of bullshit and riff raff with them. the police in Newport are expected by the residents (IE the people who pay them) to uphold a certain standard of protection and living, which really means they have to take a ZERO tolerance stance on a lot of things that others towns you could get away with. Yeah, MOST of the PD in Newport wont cut you any slack, but there is a reason.

that being said, I'm not trying to defend this particular officers actions, but kinda speak more to the "Newport PD are assholes" comment.

 

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This whole thing sounds like a completely fucked up situation with a cop who clearly needs at the very least a non paid vacation and some serious attitude correction.

but keep this in mind.

Newport beach is consistantly ranked amongst the wealthiest and most desireable places in the USA to live, great schools, very high priced Real Estate, very conservative residents. Santa Ana, which is pretty much the polar opposite, is right next door. Also add in that fact that millions of 909'ers flood the town during the summer months bringing all kinds of bullshit and riff raff with them. the police in Newport are expected by the residents (IE the people who pay them) to uphold a certain standard of protection and living, which really means they have to take a ZERO tolerance stance on a lot of things that others towns you could get away with. Yeah, MOST of the PD in Newport wont cut you any slack, but there is a reason.

that being said, I'm not trying to defend this particular officers actions, but kinda speak more to the "Newport PD are assholes" comment.

Been there, inhabitated that. LOL... Just did the Balboa fairy crossing deal. Kids love it...

 

[Moody]

NPB Police found my little girls stolen bicycle. I thanked them and made sure my 6 year old did too.

 

[Willie B]

This whole thing sounds like a completely fucked up situation with a cop who clearly needs at the very least a non paid vacation and some serious attitude correction.

but keep this in mind.

Newport beach is consistantly ranked amongst the wealthiest and most desireable places in the USA to live, great schools, very high priced Real Estate, very conservative residents. Santa Ana, which is pretty much the polar opposite, is right next door. Also add in that fact that millions of 909'ers flood the town during the summer months bringing all kinds of bullshit and riff raff with them. the police in Newport are expected by the residents (IE the people who pay them) to uphold a certain standard of protection and living, which really means they have to take a ZERO tolerance stance on a lot of things that others towns you could get away with. Yeah, MOST of the PD in Newport wont cut you any slack, but there is a reason.

that being said, I'm not trying to defend this particular officers actions, but kinda speak more to the "Newport PD are assholes" comment.

...I spent a lot of time there at a girlfriends place in the early
'80's... ...Much drinking and partying out on the town involved... ...Never had an issue with the PD...By then it was just starting to attract an undesirable element... ...An friend/acquaintance who had been born into wealth...had private resto shop on the peninsula at his families compound... ...As the influx of undesirables grew he finally built a home up on the bluffs of Costa Mesa with a huge underground shop... ...He just couldn't take the pampers on the beach stuff any longer...

...My girlfriend and I were going to rent a small cottage type home on the island but in looking over what direction Newport was going,...opted out of it... ...Probably a wise decision...

 

[wishiknew]

This whole thing sounds like a completely fucked up situation with a cop who clearly needs at the very least a non paid vacation and some serious attitude correction.

but keep this in mind.

Newport beach is consistantly ranked amongst the wealthiest and most desireable places in the USA to live, great schools, very high priced Real Estate, very conservative residents. Santa Ana, which is pretty much the polar opposite, is right next door. Also add in that fact that millions of 909'ers flood the town during the summer months bringing all kinds of bullshit and riff raff with them. the police in Newport are expected by the residents (IE the people who pay them) to uphold a certain standard of protection and living, which really means they have to take a ZERO tolerance stance on a lot of things that others towns you could get away with. Yeah, MOST of the PD in Newport wont cut you any slack, but there is a reason.

that being said, I'm not trying to defend this particular officers actions, but kinda speak more to the "Newport PD are assholes" comment.

OK lets start here I am 56 years old and since I was 16 years I knew Never to Drive Into Newport Beach Or Claremont Period. Still to this day I Avoid Newport Beach (except when I have to work there ) like the Plague Now 5 years ago I did what I said I would Never Do and Brought a House In Claremont. Like It a Lot Just shudder every time I see a Cop and thats almost everyday.

 

[t&y]

OK lets start here I am 56 years old and since I was 16 years I knew Never to Drive Into Newport Beach Or Claremont Period. Still to this day I Avoid Newport Beach (except when I have to work there ) like the Plague Now 5 years ago I did what I said I would Never Do and Brought a House In Claremont. Like It a Lot Just shudder every time I see a Cop and thats almost everyday.

Damn your life must suck or you have a tattoo across your head that says "Arrest Me"... I kid I kid...

I have family that lives in Newport, have had girlfriends there, hung/hang out on the beach there, etc... never really had a problem with the cops. I have always known (kind of an unspoken rule) that when going there on New Years or the 4th watch your P's and Q's. They deal with thousands of transplants that are simply there to party and most seem to take up the attitude that the streets are the bar. That's going to piss off a lot of the locals and put pressure on the agency to enforce drunk in public type laws at higher levels on those nights.


Kinda like going to Bobbie Maggies in Brea. They would wait outside and arrest all kinds of people all the time. If you went there you learned the rules real quick or your arrest record went through the roof.


This particular situation boggles my mind simply for the idiocy involved on the part of the cop. I have no problem with the observation and contact, that is what they are there to do. But all it would have taken was a small bit of actual police work/investigation to figure out he was disabled and not drunk. Further more, what the fuck happened to telling the family members to keep him on the property or to take care of him even if he really was drunk (otherwise known as a warning)? If what has been reported on here is exactally how it went down it is nothing more than lazy police work and the kind that will end up getting that cop fired or in prison one day. I would never last in NBPD if that is how they roll 24/7 (I don't believe they do). There are much bigger fish to fry out there than a drunk in public on the 4th.

 

[dribble]

NPB Police found my little girls stolen bicycle. I thanked them and made sure my 6 year old did too.

OK so what I've learned here is that NBPD has solved two major crimes. They took a handicapped young man off the street and threw him in jail for eight hours and found a stolen bike. That is police work at its best.

 

[Lavey29]

Phil, I have not read all of the the thread but skimmed some of the relative posts. My suggestions are for the young man and/or his family to file an immediate complaint with the WC. When you book someone into jail there are medical screening forms filled out with various questions that must be asked. They are also required to be signed by the person arrested although the person can refuse to sign any and all docs if they want. I would be curious to see what these medical forms list and if your nephew signed them. Also, with my agency the only way you can arrest someone for being drunk in public is if there is no one around such as friend of family to care for their safety and they are basically arrested for their own safety. Most of the time time if they live close by they can be driven home and left with a family member. If you are arrested for drunk in public 647F pc at my agency, you will be released when you sober up and no charges are filed. You are released pursuant to 849(B)(2) pc. This dates back to the old west days when they would just lock you up till you sobered up and then send you on your way. Now, habitual drunks such as transients can be arrested and cited because they often pose continued problems for businesses, traffic, etc... Also, if you are arrested at my agency and you request a breath test for drunk in public charge one will be given. I would be curious to see if NP beach has s similar policy in place.

I would start with a complaint and review of the booking documents. Also review of any video tape that shows the booking cell area. Those friends that were witnesses should be ready to give their statements if the WC opens up an admin investigation/inquiry. If you have any specific questions Phil, PM me.

 

[V.O.R.F]

OK lets start here I am 56 years old and since I was 16 years I knew Never to Drive Into Newport Beach Or Claremont Period. Still to this day I Avoid Newport Beach (except when I have to work there ) like the Plague Now 5 years ago I did what I said I would Never Do and Brought a House In Claremont. Like It a Lot Just shudder every time I see a Cop and thats almost everyday.

I see cops everyday and they dont cause me fear. some of you guys need to examine your life choices.