new ram Cummings?

[Riotact]

I've owned an 08 duramax and now an 18. The 08 was a really good truck. My neighbor has 2010 ram and not very impressive. My 08 duramax did everything better has down. Cummins made there name with the 5.9 not the 6.7. It's not very impressive at all and is just riding on it's name from the 5.9 not what the 6.7 has done. My 18 is such an awesome truck not even going to compare to these older models not even close.

 

[robby dmax]

we have a few hundred 4500's and a hand full of 25 and 3500's could'nt be happier coming from the 6.0 and 6.4 fords

Well anything is a step up from the 6.0L and 6.4L ford's!!

 

[Big B Hova]

5.9 cummins. 125k miles. Just broken in. No def crap! My only complaint is the lack of air from dash vents in the middle of summer.

 

[spectra3279]

Start watching on the freeways. Almost all the guys pulling hotshot loads use cummins. I'll admit, they are not the fastest, but put the same load behind each of the big 3. Then start pulling hills. The ford will breakdown first followed closely by the chevy. They dodge will continue to pull hills.

Ford and chevy motors are all aluminum and are actual light duty diesel engines. The cummins is cast iron and is an actual medium duty diesel.

I'll admit, the truck itself isn't the best. But motor and transmission damned near indestructible.

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[TPC]

 

[Bigbore500r]

Yah. I’m calling BS on his statement too. When it comes to actually hooking up some weight and towing there’s no question that the Ram out does Chevy and Ford. Chevy would be a solid 3rd place of the 3 when it comes to towing. We are talking real weight here not “lite” trailers on a 3/4 ton like you see most people talking about when they say a Chevy is the best towing out there [emoji23]

If you’re going to have a tow vehicle Ram hands down.

If you’re looking for a “diesel” that drives like a gas truck Chevy all day.

Ford is the mid point of the big 3. And does a good job of being a good tow vehicle but also drives fast to be a daily driver.


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Hmm.....the duramax kills the Dodge on the the TFL gauntlet towing tests?

 

[Riotact]

I have a buddy in car hauling and the only reason you see dodges is because of the price the cheapest to buy not the best! They are lucky at best to get 150k out of the trans!

 

[LowRiver2]

we have a few hundred 4500's and a hand full of 25 and 3500's could'nt be happier coming from the 6.0 and 6.4 fords

I’ve talked to your mechanics over at Broadway repair shop. They seem to be happy with the ease of tear downs on these vs the tight engine bays of the other two.
I’d consider RAM next time if the so cal dealerships ever come up to speed in terms of parts supply and diesel techs that can actually handle warranty work. Too many complaints with OC dealerships (wait times) currently.

 

[lbhsbz]

Ford and chevy motors are all aluminum



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No

 

[JD D05]

Start watching on the freeways. Almost all the guys pulling hotshot loads use cummins. I'll admit, they are not the fastest, but put the same load behind each of the big 3. Then start pulling hills. The ford will breakdown first followed closely by the chevy. They dodge will continue to pull hills.

Ford and chevy motors are all aluminum and are actual light duty diesel engines. The cummins is cast iron and is an actual medium duty diesel.

I'll admit, the truck itself isn't the best. But motor and transmission damned near indestructible.

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Seriously man where in the fuck did you get this information????

 

[spectra3279]

No

When did they change

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[JD D05]

I've owned an 08 duramax and now an 18. The 08 was a really good truck. My neighbor has 2010 ram and not very impressive. My 08 duramax did everything better has down. Cummins made there name with the 5.9 not the 6.7. It's not very impressive at all and is just riding on it's name from the 5.9 not what the 6.7 has done. My 18 is such an awesome truck not even going to compare to these older models not even close.

No the 6.7 is better in every way. It has a little less casting is a few areas of the block that can make it a little weaker above 1000 HP. But that was the first year of production.

 

[spectra3279]

Which part.

All the cheviot and ford's I have seen have been aluminum.

Seriously man where in the fuck did you get this information????

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[lbhsbz]

Which part.

All the cheviot and ford's I have seen have been aluminum.

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I think yooor magnet is broken. They have always used iron / CGI blocks.

 

[spectra3279]

I think yooor magnet is broken. They have always used iron / CGI blocks.

Maybe it's cause you can't see the blocks. I actually thought they had started using aluminum.

But they are still a light duty diesel and the cummins is a medium duty.

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[JD D05]

Maybe it's cause you can't see the blocks. I actually thought they had started using aluminum.

But they are still a light duty diesel and the cummins is a medium duty.

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No man. Besides a Billet aluminum blocks are a ton of money. 6.7 liter is still 6.7 liter but if you want to call your 6.7 "medium" duty go ahead.

The baddest shit has all aluminum blocks.

 

[spectra3279]

No man. Besides a Billet aluminum blocks are a ton of money. 6.7 liter is still 6.7 liter but if you want to call your 6.7 "medium" duty go ahead.

Mine is still 5.9. And yes look it up. The cummins is a medium duty.

Has to do with duty cycle for running pumps and generators.

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[JD D05]

Mine is still 5.9. And yes look it up. The cummins is a medium duty.

Has to do with duty cycle for running pumps and generators.

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That's also why they blow up on pushers . Ask me how I know.

 

[spectra3279]

That's also why everyone that has one is a pusher blows them up. Ask me how I know.

Most of them never watch the egts. And they still program them with no gauge. Hell even if they had a Guage they don't look at them

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[JD D05]

Most of them never watch the egts. And they still program them with no gauge. Hell even if they had a Guage they don't look at them

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True. My Ford has a water to air intercooler so I dont need a gauge.

 

[Runs2rch]

True. My Ford has a water to air intercooler so I dont need a gauge.

Air to water systems can get heat soaked.

 

[Bigbore500r]

Seriously man where in the fuck did you get this information????

The internet of course!

 

[JD D05]

Air to water systems can get heat soaked.

Ya when designed poorly or placed incorrectly etc. I have never won an argument with a tractor owner but the Cummins design is inefficient and outdated. This is early 90 stuff with air to air etc.

 

[TexasJet]

Before you buy a Ram check the reviews in JDPower and Associates.

 

[Blackmagic94]

You aren’t gonna see ford 6.7s go 1,000,000 miles. I wonder why.

 

[JD D05]

You aren’t gonna see ford 6.7s go 1,000,000 miles. I wonder why.

You aren't going to see a Cummins do that either without multiple sets of injectors a trans or multiple clutches. Probably a cp3 or 3 etc etc, lifts pumps, head gasket, water pump. Etc etc

 

[Blackmagic94]

You aren't going to see a Cummins do that either without multiple sets of injectors a trans or multiple clutches. Probably a cp3 or 3 etc etc, lifts pumps, head gasket, water pump. Etc etc

Fake news


https://highmileage.cummins.com/


There is no amount of parts to make a 6.0 or 6.4 psd reach that. I owned both. Junk.

 

[lbhsbz]

You aren't going to see a Cummins do that either without multiple sets of injectors a trans or multiple clutches. Probably a cp3 or 3 etc etc, lifts pumps, head gasket, water pump. Etc etc

My tenant has a 12V with 780K on it in a truck that's absolutely beat...leaks like a DD, but has never had anything but starters/waterpumps/alternator/filters, etc... Shows no signs of weakness if you keep oil in it.

 

[Yellowboat]

Fake news


https://highmileage.cummins.com/


There is no amount of parts to make a 6.0 or 6.4 psd reach that. I owned both. Junk.

Lol they start at 100k miles

 

[JD D05]

Fake news


https://highmileage.cummins.com/


There is no amount of parts to make a 6.0 or 6.4 psd reach that. I owned both. Junk.

Million miles no parts equal liars most the time, besides there are 6.7's that have done it. My friend writes a lot of the articles for all the diesel mags. I also know all the editors since my old Dodge was on the cover of all of them. Dont believe everything you read. I also dont care about my "friend" diesel people lie more than anyone.

 

[lbhsbz]

I also dont care about my "friend" diesel people lie more than anyone.

One look at this truck and you wouldn't doubt it for a minute...It has a gate hasp with a hitch pin to keep the door closed...no sheet metal left to screw the original latch too from slamming the door too many times

 

[JD D05]

One look at this truck and you wouldn't doubt it for a minute...It has a gate hasp with a hitch pin to keep the door closed...no sheet metal left to screw the original latch too from slamming the door too many times

Hahahaha I am sure it can be done but really doesnt sound very great.

 

[Blackmagic94]

I inspect Diesel engines for a living. I have yet to see a international or ford designed diesel in a generator, equipment or military vehicle yet. I see plenty of John Deere, Cats, Cummins, Detroit Deisels, and Onans every day. I wonder why.

 

[Blackmagic94]

Or I can do better. What engine did ford install in the F-650 series from 2000-2015? Hmmmm

 

[JD D05]

I inspect Diesel engines for a living. I have yet to see a international or ford designed diesel in a generator, equipment or military vehicle yet. I see plenty of John Deere, Cats, Cummins, Detroit Deisels, and Onans every day. I wonder why.

Because they dont make them maybe I dont know who cares. The 7.3 was pretty pathetic but ok for the technology. The 6.0 even worse. The 6.7 is badass. It is extremely close to being internally balanced. All those you mentioned excel in low low RPM. I like the Cummins I currently own 2 but it isn't the end all and it is old technology.

 

[JD D05]

Or I can do better. What engine did ford install in the F-650 series from 2000-2015? Hmmmm

I know I know! I watched my buddies get rebuilt 3 times!

 

[Blackmagic94]

Because they dont make them maybe I dont know who cares. The 7.3 was pretty pathetic but ok for the technology. The 6.0 even worse. The 6.7 is badass. It is extremely close to being internally balanced. All those you mentioned excel in low low RPM. I like the Cummins I currently own 2 but it isn't the end all and it is old technology.

The real world that works for a living/defends your freedom does and they do not choose ford power plants, period.

Low rpm is where work is done.

You do understand that the engine you refer to as a Cummins is not the only engine they make. But one a many that are used from 4 cylinders to giant v12 or bigger engines.

 

[Blackmagic94]

I know I know! I watched my buddies get rebuilt 3 times!

Which is hilarious knowing that Blue Diamond of Mexico aka Navistar-International/Ford built the damn things and still didn’t want to put a power stroke in the things

 

[tunnel vision]

Had a 2008 F450, original engine made it 38k, Ford would’nt replace it do to time NOT miles, replaced it with a factory crate engine $17k, turbo to pan made it to 74K. Fuck!
Bought a 2018 Ram 3500 CC dually...


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[Flying_Lavey]

The real world that works for a living/defends your freedom does and they do not choose ford power plants, period.

Low rpm is where work is done.

You do understand that the engine you refer to as a Cummins is not the only engine they make. But one a many that are used from 4 cylinders to giant v12 or bigger engines.

All those trucks also only,need to get to 60 mph at most really and there is ZERO care about comfort, efficiency, or just general city driveability. To use your measurement as a standard for a pick-up engine is really an apples to oranges situations. Also, NEITHER GM or Ford make an engine for an application like what you describe. Both used to but realized it was,just far too specialized for them to,be competitive in it.

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[JD D05]

The real world that works for a living/defends your freedom does and they do not choose ford power plants, period.

Low rpm is where work is done.

You do understand that the engine you refer to as a Cummins is not the only engine they make. But one a many that are used from 4 cylinders to giant v12 or bigger engines.

My god you take this to a new level of stupidity. The F-series is used by the military. My friends sold the military master tuning to keep them from regen to prevent stranding soldiers. All brands...

You do know Cummins builds the motors for Nissan right? I wonder why

 

[JD D05]

Which is hilarious knowing that Blue Diamond of Mexico aka Navistar-International/Ford built the damn things and still didn’t want to put a power stroke in the things

Cummins

 

[lbhsbz]

Or I can do better. What engine did ford install in the F-650 series from 2000-2015? Hmmmm

I know it was yellow

 

[Outdrive1]

Who the fuck wants a light duty truck with a million miles on it? [emoji849]. I hope you’re not naive enough to think dodge is building million mile chassis. Are we talking about Freightliners and Peterbuilts or F250’s?? Might as well argue about Stokers and Schiadas while we’re at it.


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[Blackmagic94]

My god you take this to a new level of stupidity. The F-series is used by the military. My friends sold the military master tuning to keep them from regen to prevent stranding soldiers. All brands...

You do know Cummins builds the motors for Nissan right? I wonder why

They bought some over the counter trucks for shit in the rear back on a very small buy. But they have done that will all 3 brands. You will never see a power stoke power a tactical vehicle, gen set or marine anything.

I work for the DoD as an inspector of said items so go ahead tell me some more 2nd hand buddy stories.

 

[lbhsbz]

Had a 2008 F450, original engine made it 38k, Ford would’nt replace it do to time NOT miles, replaced it with a factory crate engine $17k, turbo to pan made it to 74K. Fuck!
Bought a 2018 Ram 3500 CC dually...


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Shoulda bought a gasser....it woulda gone 200K with basic maintanence

 

[Blackmagic94]

Who the fuck wants a light duty truck with a million miles on it? [emoji849]. I hope you’re not naive enough to think dodge is building million mile chassis. Are we talking about Freightliners and Peterbuilts or F250’s?? Might as well argue about Stokers and Schiadas while we’re at it.


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Million mile dodge rams.

 

[Blackmagic94]

I know it was yellow

They offered cat and Cummins and some years offered either in same year.

 

[lbhsbz]

Who the fuck wants a light duty truck with a million miles on it? [emoji849]. I hope you’re not naive enough to think dodge is building million mile chassis. Are we talking about Freightliners and Peterbuilts or F250’s?? Might as well argue about Stokers and Schiadas while we’re at it.


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stokers are the best

 

[84miller]

Loved my dodge. However, I strongly suggest before you decide to buy call the dealership as a customer requesting a service appointment. My Chrysler Dodge Jeep just has a recording, states leave a message for call back, but they never call back. It is almost impossible to take the truck to the dealership as they will not talk to you onsite if a appointment is not scheduled, go figure. So I found a great independent, but I do not worry about warranty as it is past.