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old enough to remember gas at 20 cents a gallon if you don't like it don't buy it don't bitch about something your not going to buy in the first place its called inflation
 

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Exactly👍

In my mind? An entry level boat? Is a used boat, say a Shockwave 21 that’s 15 years old, or a Hawaiian 19’ jet boat, or an old old Eliminator 20 Sport, not a brand new 24’ boat someone had to pay a cocky premadona gelcoater enough money he’s willing to sacrifice a weekend to come spray😎
So you’re the reason boat prices are so high…we can close the thread now
 

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So you’re the reason boat prices are so high…we can close the thread now
I'd wager to say he's one of the reasons so many beautiful boats are still out on the water today. His work is incredible, and the fact we still have him showcasing his talents today is a blessing. Spray on Prima Donna! ❤️
 
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Hopefully not an R, I enjoy watching the actual "behind the scenes" process

 

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I’m curious to know if they’re building old school with wood, or new school with foam and composite (coosa) stringers and transoms? Maybe @Gelcoater knows.

As we’ve been looking at boats, and contemplating destroying our finances with new build possibilities, 160, if done the right way could make some sense.
 

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My son wanted it for the deal offered to my buddy, no deal for him.
I was told big power is going in it and should be capable of 100mph!
Update, my buddy who isnt that up to speed on the boating world told me yesterday that the boat is what he thought 600+ HP. Not going to be the 100MPH he thought.
 

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I’m curious to know if they’re building old school with wood, or new school with foam and composite (coosa) stringers and transoms? Maybe @Gelcoater knows.

As we’ve been looking at boats, and contemplating destroying our finances with new build possibilities, 160, if done the right way could make some sense.
I have no idea. Last time I saw it, it was a shell of gelcoat in a mold.

Personally, I wouldn’t want Coosa or foam.
I’d want traditional wood, for the weight.
It’s not a cat, it’s a displacement hull. It cuts and pushes water out of the way.

Weight helps a V bottom do this rather than just bounce off the top of waves and chop.
 

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I have no idea. Last time I saw it, it was a shell of gelcoat in a mold.

Personally, I wouldn’t want Coosa or foam.
I’d want traditional wood, for the weight.
It’s not a cat, it’s a displacement hull. It cuts and pushes water out of the way.

Weight helps a V bottom do this rather than just bounce off the top of waves and chop.
Not for weight savings. But stringer and transom rot over time.

I do hope the still do the teak and holly floor.
 

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You'd be surprised at the weight of Coosa. It's really close to plywood, only slightly lighter. I don't think it would make the hull noticably lighter. The benefits of using a composite material in the transom and stringers would guarantee the structure would be impervious to moisture, which sells itself. With my Howard, I used plywood for the transom and knees and kiln dried fir for the stringers. If I do another hull restoration in the future, I'll stick with Coosa.
 

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would guarantee the structure would be impervious to moisture, which sells itself.
This is true.
I tested a piece, weighing it before and after soaking in water for 24/36 hours.
It didn’t gain any weight at all, same weight before and after down to the gram.
However. I have seen a couple issues of glass not bonding well to it.

Large air voids developed requiring
extensive repairs.
You could tap on it with a penny and hear exactly where it was. Noticeable sound difference.

Personal preference here but I’d stick to wood unless it’s an all out race build.

As i love the traditional flooring, I would have preferred a fiberglass floor liner.

Perhaps it will an option later on.
This would be a great option for those that appreciate the ease of cleaning.
I’d hope they integrated scuppers to drain.
And the popular foam flooring some folks like could be used.

I like the look of the Teak, but some folks could take it or leave it.
 

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It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. The 240 is a classic and revered by many including myself.. I actually said it’s one of the best boats of all time in an article I wrote for hot boat years back.

However when Randy bought Hallett the 240 was considered one of the assets he purchased with the company if memory serves.. so I’m not sure he’d take this laying down..

But the real question I think is there a market for a classic boat in today’s modern world? As in “is it worth even fighting over?”

Bigger question is did they splash a 240 and create the mold? Or did they “find” the mold and then make some changes via inserts..

If they found that mold will they find the 300?
 

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However when Randy bought Hallett the 240 was considered one of the assets he purchased with the company if memory serves..
Why hasn’t he built one?
I’ve never seen the OG 240 molds, and worked with them since 08. Hallett under Nick Barron didn’t build one in all those years nor was it advertised as available. Why? I just thought they got rid of it?

I don’t know Randy but I can’t imagine this is something he would be bothered by? A boat Hallett hasn’t produced in at least 17? years, under two different owners.
 

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This would be a great option for those that appreciate the ease of cleaning.
I’d hope they integrated scuppers to drain.
And the popular foam flooring some folks like could be used
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I like the look of the Teak, but some folks could take it or leave it.
100%
 

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It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. The 240 is a classic and revered by many including myself.. I actually said it’s one of the best boats of all time in an article I wrote for hot boat years back.

However when Randy bought Hallett the 240 was considered one of the assets he purchased with the company if memory serves.. so I’m not sure he’d take this laying down..

But the real question I think is there a market for a classic boat in today’s modern world? As in “is it worth even fighting over?”

Bigger question is did they splash a 240 and create the mold? Or did they “find” the mold and then make some changes via inserts..

If they found that mold will they find the 300?
good thing its called a 242s and not a 240......
 

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It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. The 240 is a classic and revered by many including myself.. I actually said it’s one of the best boats of all time in an article I wrote for hot boat years back.

However when Randy bought Hallett the 240 was considered one of the assets he purchased with the company if memory serves.. so I’m not sure he’d take this laying down..

But the real question I think is there a market for a classic boat in today’s modern world? As in “is it worth even fighting over?”

Bigger question is did they splash a 240 and create the mold? Or did they “find” the mold and then make some changes via inserts..

If they found that mold will they find the 300?
Splash, and added 2" to it, 242.
 

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Can confirm floors are staying true to tradition. View attachment 1490944
Traditional to what? It’s not a Hallett, it’s a Barron…. Something looks a little shady to me.

I don’t care what it says on the side. That is identical to a 240. Only change is the rear vent and what looks like a pad on the bottom.

I wouldn’t be too happy if I bought a company only to have someone keep a design that I purchased and sell it as their own a few years later.
 

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It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. The 240 is a classic and revered by many including myself.. I actually said it’s one of the best boats of all time in an article I wrote for hot boat years back.

However when Randy bought Hallett the 240 was considered one of the assets he purchased with the company if memory serves.. so I’m not sure he’d take this laying down..

But the real question I think is there a market for a classic boat in today’s modern world? As in “is it worth even fighting over?”

Bigger question is did they splash a 240 and create the mold? Or did they “find” the mold and then make some changes via inserts..

If they found that mold will they find the 300?
Traditional to what? It’s not a Hallett, it’s a Barron…. Something looks a little shady to me.

I don’t care what it says on the side. That is identical to a 240. Only change is the rear vent and what looks like a pad on the bottom.

I wouldn’t be too happy if I bought a company only to have someone keep a design that I purchased and sell it as their own a few years later.

Could swore one of you had inside knowledge that Nick Barron had the 240 mold crushed “because you don’t want to put other people in businesses by selling a mold”.

If they did destroy it I’m not sure how Randy could have gotten any rights to the 240.

Pretty sure the last Barron Hallett 240 was like an 04/05.
 

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Traditional to what? It’s not a Hallett, it’s a Barron…. Something looks a little shady to me.

I don’t care what it says on the side. That is identical to a 240. Only change is the rear vent and what looks like a pad on the bottom.

I wouldn’t be too happy if I bought a company only to have someone keep a design that I purchased and sell it as their own a few years later.
Traditional to what they’re recreating. I don’t think they’re trying to hide anything. Their website even says “The legend returns”.

As far as legalities, not my place. I don’t know what agreements may or may not have been made.

I’m just relaying pictures and information that was shared with me to others that might find it pretty cool.
 

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what Hallett molds does Davis manufacturing have?

210?
255?
270?
290?
300?
335?
400?
and from 290 to 400…what hull is available?
Thane, er?

edit: spelling
edit again: I like the Hallett & Barron lineup, always have. I would like to know what hull is on the current (2025 > up) Hallett 335 and 400?
-Would it be 335 with flame hull? (Flame is beautiful boat, btw) but Hallett 335 (flat) deck may not fit? bow section, bow flare, blah blah blah…transom yada yada…
I mean…they made a 275 (Hallett) fit on a 275, er, 28 rage…er…28, Nordic somthing…..er, beautiful single step 28…..feck……I’m drunk….
-A 400 with a Michael Peters hull? Why’d it not work, or did it?
 
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I thought silverwings had BAR hins as well, you know better then I do in this industry. Did they have different id's. Always open to learn new information.

I don't believe there was a connection between Barron and Lembke. I will look at one of my neighbors SilverWings and check the hull I.D.
 

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Does anyone think this will sell in quantities? Times have changed.
 

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Does anyone think this will sell in quantities? Times have changed.
I feel like I must be an outlier in the buyer market because I think this will absolutely sell.

Guys want 80-100k for their “perfect” 2000’s 240/255s. There is no such thing as perfect and I don’t see anybody offering a warranty on a used boat. Within a year or 2 there’s gonna be 5-10 grand of work, it’s just the way it goes.

Or for 150k I get to pick the colors, motor, get to be the first guy to drive it/bang in it etc. 150k is a lot of money. But it’s also 50k less than what Hallett/Davis Boats wants for a comparable 255.

I see this as the boat a family buys for 20-40 years of use. Our Hallett (built by Barron) turns 35 years old this year and it’s only been owned by our family. If you take care of them they last a long time.
 

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Bud brought the 27 and 34 to Hallett from Silverwing. Then 240, 210 and 300 designed while he was there.

I’ve seen a SilverWing whaler too. Not sure where that ended up
 

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I’ve seen a SilverWing whaler too. Not sure where that ended up
If memory serves me, a Silverwing whaler is a Howard/Spectra hull widened 6". Has a flat center pad. Very nice deck mold on the whaler. Pretty sure Jim Wilkes ended up with that mold.
Also Silverwing 10' mini tunnel boats, were some of the fastest in the 1980s mini boat races. The big ET boats like Mitch's # 79 Jaguar that won the Enduro. Several of the big ET tunnels built both inboard race boats, and dual outboard pleasure versions.
I was lucky enough Mitch let me take the original big wood ET 79 for a spin at Walker Lake.
 

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I hope they do well with the reintroduction of the 240, sorry now 242, as it was an awesome boat. Looking forward to see what the pad that has been added does for the old school bottom.
 

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Wish we could get more New Builds Out of The Mold but with how this thread has gone I don't blame builders not wanting to do so. 2-3 posts in would go to pricing then it would turn into a waterfall of comments of "I would never pay that", etc. Well someone has and is building it so enjoy the trip they are on on it is something that they like. Be stoked for them working their ass off and they may not have a gel scheme that you like or you would do something different, but to them, it is what they want.
 

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It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. The 240 is a classic and revered by many including myself.. I actually said it’s one of the best boats of all time in an article I wrote for hot boat years back.

However when Randy bought Hallett the 240 was considered one of the assets he purchased with the company if memory serves.. so I’m not sure he’d take this laying down..

But the real question I think is there a market for a classic boat in today’s modern world? As in “is it worth even fighting over?”

Bigger question is did they splash a 240 and create the mold? Or did they “find” the mold and then make some changes via inserts..

If they found that mold will they find the 300?
I was thinking the same, but held my comments. Zooming in on mold, it appears to be newer frame on mold, so unless they sand blasted the shit out of it I would assume they splashed it.
I think it’s great someone brought it back. Even if it is shady business.
personally I’d take a Davis built hallett over a barron any day

I do wish the new Barron the best of luck, and hope the 24 brings them some business. As far as price who cares charge what ever the hell they want, if it’s beyond your means then so be it.
 
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