Need power of RDP. Call out thread time!!

[SKIDMARC]

Yes and since resold it. He told me he had bought and sold 16 boats last year

Have you been in contact with him about this thread?

 

[sirbob]

It’s been said already but this is a slam dunk small claims court deal - ding him and garnish his wages.

Get what you can and move on.

Too bad Az limit is so low.

 

[Marios Metalworks]

@MariosMetalworks on here ran into the guy on Pleasant I think. Said he was a super douche. Sounds like that lines up here.

lol the wheels started to turn as I was reading the "who bought RD's 270" comments on Page 5. Ran into him at Saguaro twice, good to know my gut feeling is still accurate

However we still haven't heard his side of the story...

 

[RiverDave]

Have you been in contact with him about this thread?

He hit me up on Facebook messenger the morning it was posted.

RD

 

[Springfield]

He hit me up on Facebook messenger the morning it was posted.

RD

Do tell more.

 

[DiamondDave]

lol the wheels started to turn as I was reading the "who bought RD's 270" comments on Page 5. Ran into him at Saguaro twice, good to know my gut feeling is still accurate

However we still haven't heard his side of the story...

You are welcome lol

 

[SKIDMARC]

He hit me up on Facebook messenger the morning it was posted.

RD

So what’s his side of the story?

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Go to the police station and file a report and ask for charges, If you can prove/ or they can that it was done intentionally it is a crime. look up Defrauding a innkeeper law "The use of fraud to obtain goods or services without paying for it" How do I know I have used it a few times to recover money owed me for products people bought with fake checks, fake cards or wrong personal info.

This is fucking weird.... I had never heard of that law until today. And I have now heard it twice from 2 VERY different sources about different subjects. His was an Air B&B situation with shitty renters.

 

[NicPaus]

This is fucking weird.... I had never heard of that law until today. And I have now heard it twice from 2 VERY different sources about different subjects. His was an Air B&B situation with shitty renters.

If you use a campsite at Echo without paying they will call Sheriff and press charges. Defrauding a innkeeper.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

If you use a campsite at Echo without paying they will call Sheriff and press charges. Defrauding a innkeeper.

Oh it definitely makes sense. I had just never heard of it and then to hear it twice in the same day from 2 very different sources is pretty damn weird.

 

[havasujeeper]

537. (a) Any person who obtains any food, fuel, services, or accommodations at a hotel, inn, restaurant, boardinghouse, lodginghouse, apartment house, bungalow court, motel, marina, marine facility, autocamp, ski area, or public or private campground, without paying therefor, with intent to defraud the proprietor or manager thereof, or who obtains credit at an hotel, inn, restaurant, boardinghouse, lodginghouse, apartment house, bungalow court, motel, marina, marine facility, autocamp, or public or private campground by the use of any false pretense, or who, after obtaining credit, food, fuel, services, or accommodations, at an hotel, inn, restaurant, boardinghouse, lodginghouse, apartment house, bungalow court, motel, marina, marine facility, autocamp, or public or private campground, absconds, or surreptitiously, or by force, menace, or threats, removes any part of his or her baggage therefrom with the intent not to pay for his or her food or accommodations is guilty of a public offense punishable as follows:

(1) If the value of the credit, food, fuel, services, or accommodations is nine hundred fifty dollars ($950) or less, by a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000) or by imprisonment in the county jail for a term not exceeding six months, or both.

(2) If the value of the credit, food, fuel, services, or accommodations is greater than nine hundred fifty dollars ($950), by imprisonment in a county jail for a term of not more than one year, or in the state prison.

(b) Any person who uses or attempts to use ski area facilities for which payment is required without paying as required, or who resells a ski lift ticket to another when the resale is not authorized by the proprietor, is guilty of an infraction.

(c) Evidence that a person left the premises of such an hotel, inn, restaurant, boardinghouse, lodginghouse, apartment house, bungalow court, motel, marina, marine facility, autocamp, ski area, or public or private campground, without paying or offering to pay for such food, fuel, services, use of facilities, or accommodation, or that the person, without authorization from the proprietor, resold his or her ski lift ticket to another person after making use of such facilities, shall be prima facie evidence of the following:

(1) That the person obtained such food, fuel, services, use of facilities or accommodations with intent to defraud the proprietor or manager.

(2) That, if, after obtaining the credit, food, fuel, services, or accommodations, the person absconded, or surreptitiously, or by force, menace, or threats, removed part of his or her baggage therefrom, the person did so with the intent not to pay for the credit, food, fuel, services, or accommodations.

A good or service can include such things as food, fuel, or accommodations at a hotel.


Examples

• finishing an expensive meal at a restaurant, and then taking off without paying the check (dine and dash)
• filling your tank with gas as a full-service gas station and then driving off without paying
• staying at a hotel and then leaving without checking out and paying for board or room service

Defenses


There are several legal defenses that a person can raise if accused of defrauding an innkeeper. These include showing that a defendant:

• had no intent to defraud,
• made an honest mistake, and
• acted under duress.

Penalties


A person that violates Penal Code 537 is charged with a misdemeanor (as opposed to a felony or an infraction) if the value of the goods or services obtained was $950 or less. The theft charge is punishable by:

• imprisonment in the county jail for up to six months, and/or
• a maximum fine of $1,000.

If the value of the theft was greater than $950, then the violation is charged as a wobbler. This means this theft offense can be charged as either a misdemeanor or a felony. If the latter, the crime can be punished by imprisonment in the California state prison for over a year.

 

[Heylam]

I bet there’s no way you’d get law enforcement to make an arrest on this. They’d tell you it’s a civil matter.

 

[RiverDave]

So what’s his side of the story?

I doubt these are gonna show up in the correct order.. but this was the conversation

You can get the point.

 

[RiverDave]

I bet there’s no way you’d get law enforcement to make an arrest on this. They’d tell you it’s a civil matter.

When you have a problem you have a singular thing.

If you call the cops.. now you got two problems. Lol

 

[gqchris]

When you have a problem you have a singular thing.

If you call the cops.. now you got two problems. Lol

Amen to that. I wish more people had that same thinking.

I always told my GF's in the past, if we get into a verbal argument, and you wanna call the cops to "one up me", we are ALL fucked! No good will come of it. We will either work thru it or part ways. We don't need the police to assist.

Law Enfrocement has enough shit to deal with. This is also NOT one of them.

 

[Havasu Surfer]

Only thing that could possibly make him douchier would be a barbed wire tattoo on his arm.

That doesn’t even go all the way around. Hee hee

 

[SKIDMARC]

I doubt these are gonna show up in the correct order.. but this was the conversation

You can get the point.
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Thanks for sharing, in the end there are always three sides to the story, Pauls, Flat Tops and somewhere in the middle the truth.

 

[MPHSystems]

I doubt these are gonna show up in the correct order.. but this was the conversation

You can get the point.
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Wow, reads like a drunken 11th grader wrote it.

 

[Lavey5150]

Paul drinks Pina Coladaz doesn't he?

 

[MPHSystems]

Paul drinks Pina Coladaz doesn't he?

Seems like a Mojito or pink zinfandel kind of guy

 

[MPHSystems]

Did we get this guy yet or is he still walking around free?


I bet he doesn’t return his shopping cart either.

 

[RiverDave]

Did we get this guy yet or is he still walking around free?


I bet he doesn’t return his shopping cart either.

He said he was gonna send a letter from his lawyer.. I'd wager that didn't happen yet.

RD

 

[MPHSystems]

He said he was gonna send a letter from his lawyer.. I'd wager that didn't happen yet.

RD

Was he going to sue you?


I bet he’s going to sue me too! He should definitely sue me, he’ll get a grand total of NOTHING

 

[Shlbyntro]

I am Nothing, Have Nothing, am worth Nothing.

The power of positivity.

 

[RiverDave]

Was he going to sue you?


I bet he’s going to sue me too! He should definitely sue me, he’ll get a grand total of NOTHING

If you read the thread, he said he was planning on going to court with Flat Tops marine.

RD

 

[rrrr]

Seems easier just to kill the guy. I've seen that prescriptive approach brought up so many times here I figure it has to work.

Like Briscoe Darling said..."Thought about killin' him..."

 

[DLC]

If Flat Top Marine did anything wrong they have to be given the opportunity to fix it. After reading everything I don’t think that happened….
and once the boat was back in the shop it wouldn’t have been released without payment….


Other wise people would be in court over oil changes…

 

[MPHSystems]

If you read the thread, he said he was planning on going to court with Flat Tops marine.

RD

I picked up on that in the first post.


in the past, when I‘ve seen people on forums “i’m go a sue”. They often start throwing around suing anyone who offended them for defamation and I’m going to sue the forum owner for allowing it!!! You’ll hear from my lawyer!!!


only seen one person actually go through with it and file a suit about a decade ago. He actually sued the forum owner. Got his ass handed to him In court. We all had a good laugh…. All except for him LOL

 

[Missmy50]

He said he was gonna send a letter from his lawyer.. I'd wager that didn't happen yet.

RD

Nope it didnt

 

[retaocleg]

getting lawyers involved sux, because the actual price gets skewed by the fees...........i hate lawyers

somebody always pays......and pays inflated to fund the lawyers