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Commercial and Howard Johnson would give you $69,500.00 in beer money if you all bunk together....!
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How many people are you trying to fly?He does.. I think we may just fly commercial. Some of these quotes are coming in around 70k round trip.
Pretty sure RCR bought RGM’s plane.Maybe ask robby gordon seriously he used to have two planes. Maybe you could rent one of his
He does.. I think we may just fly commercial. Some of these quotes are coming in around 70k round trip.
He does.. I think we may just fly commercial. Some of these quotes are coming in around 70k round
People fail to realize how expensive flying private really is.Seems about right...
5-10k an hour, so thats not super surprising. At that point I'd just take the first class and the time hit.He does.. I think we may just fly commercial. Some of these quotes are coming in around 70k round trip.
I tell my wife my old beat up 1984 Hughes 500 is only about a thousand an hour to fly. Let’s hope she doesn’t read this.We have a friend that has a king air he said it cost around 1700.00 an hour to fly but that was 6-7 years ago
People fail to realize how expensive flying private really is.
A 12 year old TBM is over 60k a year just for insurance. It flies about 100 hours a year and that equates to 600 an hour. Throw in life limited components, fuel, maintenance, a hangar at 2000 a month, landing fees, storage fees at your destination airport and all the other stuff and you are at 2000 an hour for an old turbo prop that can go four hours if loaded light, you fly it yourself and your bladder can make it four hours. And that excludes the cost of capital for the 2.5 million that old plane would cost to buy today used.
The costs of flying around in a 24 million dollar depreciating latitude is astronomical and it may not make it west coast to east coast without a stop.
If the government didn’t subsidize flying private with all sorts of tax benefits and a free ATC system that every commercial passenger chips in for on every ticket with fees, flying private would drop substantially.
It makes a 1,200 dollar round trip first class ticket from the west coast to New York seem like peanuts and a great deal.
Are you the black dude from Magnum P.I.?I tell my wife my old beat up 1984 Hughes 500 is only about a thousand an hour to fly. Let’s hope she doesn’t read this.
Are you the black dude from Magnum P.I.?
Nicest guy one could have possibly met.I still look to the sky when I see a helicopter and yell "TC". People think I'm nuts and have no idea what I'm saying.
I couldn't afford a plane, but it could also be a damn nice dragstrip for BBQ & Grudge Racing on a Saturday afternoon! Put some stand-up's in the pond and it's a party!That puts things into perspective.
My buddy had a twin engine turbo prop. He had a private paved airstrip on his property in Belton, Mo.
I never got to fly with him but he told me it was considerably more expensive than most people thought.
This thread certainly proved that to me.
I thought RD could get it done for around 30-35K
My buddies airstrip:
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I have done many high speed blasts down that strip.I couldn't afford a plane, but it could also be a damn nice dragstrip for BBQ & Grudge Racing on a Saturday afternoon! Put some stand-up's in the pond and it's a party!
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You think a big twin offshore boat costs money to operate? Lay down that cheap $3M, and it'll flay the skin right off your ass real quick.
I want to know what is in the bunkers in the compound beside your buddies property? Looks like a military storage site.That puts things into perspective.
My buddy had a twin engine turbo prop. He had a private paved airstrip on his property in Belton, Mo.
I never got to fly with him but he told me it was considerably more expensive than most people thought.
This thread certainly proved that to me.
I thought RD could get it done for around 30-35K
My buddies airstrip:
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People fail to realize how expensive flying private really is.
A 12 year old TBM is over 60k a year just for insurance. It flies about 100 hours a year and that equates to 600 an hour. Throw in life limited components, fuel, maintenance, a hangar at 2000 a month, landing fees, storage fees at your destination airport and all the other stuff and you are at 2000 an hour for an old turbo prop that can go four hours if loaded light, you fly it yourself and your bladder can make it four hours. And that excludes the cost of capital for the 2.5 million that old plane would cost to buy today used.
The costs of flying around in a 24 million dollar depreciating latitude is astronomical and it may not make it west coast to east coast without a stop.
If the government didn’t subsidize flying private with all sorts of tax benefits and a free ATC system that every commercial passenger chips in for on every ticket with fees, flying private would drop substantially.
It makes a 1,200 dollar round trip first class ticket from the west coast to New York seem like peanuts and a great deal.
Correct, that is a ”drop zone”.I want to know what is in the bunkers in the compound beside your buddies property? Looks like a military storage site.
I was guessing missile silo, or entrance to the underground tunnel complex that links all the Alien bunkers to Area 31Correct, that is a ”drop zone”.
Very interesting story about all that. I’ll find the links some time and make a thread about it all.
Interesting, sad, and infuriating.
Did you really think it would be cheaper than that?
How many people are you trying to fly?
Property sounds better and better!I was guessing missile silo, or entrance to the underground tunnel complex that links all the Alien bunkers to Area 31
PM WTG for your "Living with Aliens" starter package. It includes tips for the novice like, "Greys can be friendly but frisky, and avoid any eye contact with the Reptilians and yes, they do bite"Property sounds better and better!
People fail to realize how expensive flying private really is.
A 12 year old TBM is over 60k a year just for insurance. It flies about 100 hours a year and that equates to 600 an hour. Throw in life limited components, fuel, maintenance, a hangar at 2000 a month, landing fees, storage fees at your destination airport and all the other stuff and you are at 2000 an hour for an old turbo prop that can go four hours if loaded light, you fly it yourself and your bladder can make it four hours. And that excludes the cost of capital for the 2.5 million that old plane would cost to buy today used.
The costs of flying around in a 24 million dollar depreciating latitude is astronomical and it may not make it west coast to east coast without a stop.
If the government didn’t subsidize flying private with all sorts of tax benefits and a free ATC system that every commercial passenger chips in for on every ticket with fees, flying private would drop substantially.
It makes a 1,200 dollar round trip first class ticket from the west coast to New York seem like peanuts and a great deal.
Hey now, "friendly but frisky" and "they do bite" isn't exactly going to scare me awayPM WTG for your "Living with Aliens" starter package. It includes tips for the novice like, "Greys can be friendly but frisky, and avoid any eye contact with the Reptilians and yes, they do bite"
AhhhPM WTG for your "Living with Aliens" starter package. It includes tips for the novice like, "Greys can be friendly but frisky, and avoid any eye contact with the Reptilians and yes, they do bite"
Ahhh
I see you’ve read my other book…
“How to be an internet asshole for dummies”
Emphasis on these chapters?
“Taking the micro out of micro-aggressions”
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“Passive/ aggressive…finding the fulcrum”
I took it as a compliment…with a twist…Of course one might consider it as a compliment in recognition and acknowledgement of your vast knowledge of Groom Lake and Bob Lazar's works.
OR
Maybe you're right and your initial assumption is also correct, in fact, both could be.
You’re way off on your insurance guesstimate. More like $25k a year for a 4 year old 930 with $10mm liability and $4mm hull.People fail to realize how expensive flying private really is.
A 12 year old TBM is over 60k a year just for insurance. It flies about 100 hours a year and that equates to 600 an hour. Throw in life limited components, fuel, maintenance, a hangar at 2000 a month, landing fees, storage fees at your destination airport and all the other stuff and you are at 2000 an hour for an old turbo prop that can go four hours if loaded light, you fly it yourself and your bladder can make it four hours. And that excludes the cost of capital for the 2.5 million that old plane would cost to buy today used.
The costs of flying around in a 24 million dollar depreciating latitude is astronomical and it may not make it west coast to east coast without a stop.
If the government didn’t subsidize flying private with all sorts of tax benefits and a free ATC system that every commercial passenger chips in for on every ticket with fees, flying private would drop substantially.
It makes a 1,200 dollar round trip first class ticket from the west coast to New York seem like peanuts and a great deal.
And just so our friend monkey doesn’t feel left out…Of course one might consider it as a compliment in recognition and acknowledgement of your vast knowledge of Groom Lake and Bob Lazar's works.
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Maybe you're right and your initial assumption is also correct, in fact, both could be.
It isn't a guesstimate, it is the actual bill..........Your way off on your insurance guesstimate. More like $25k a year for a 4 year old 930 with $10mm liability and $4mm hull.
Your premium will be 1/3 that when you get a couple years experience. What do you pay for your 500 out of curiosity. We both like TBM’s and 500’s. Or 530FF in my case.
I'm not sure a few more years will matter after a couple decades experience. Take a look at your seat limits.Your premium will be 1/3 that when you get a couple years experience. What do you pay for your 500 out of curiosity. We both like TBM’s and 500’s. Or 530FF in my case.
and an 850 a relic........RDP … where you come to find out your TBM930 is old and slow
Why you bringing facts into this , that’s the top end of my GA summit if I have my way.
I believe legacy aircraft is the preferred nomenclature vs. relicI'm not sure a few more years will matter after a couple decades experience. Take a look at your seat limits.
I've had a couple F models. Currently building up an E model that will come in under 1500 pounds empty.
and an 850 a relic........
I'm not sure a few more years will matter after a couple decades experience. Take a look at your seat limits.
I've had a couple F models. Currently building up an E model that will come in under 1500 pounds empty.
and an 850 a relic........
Amazingly they have gone up in price. And if you have an 850 with a pilot door they will really pay up.I mean, even Steveo1kinevo is flying a 930 now... Surprised that 850 is worth anything.