Mean as f&$@!!

[WhatExit?]

Sorry for you and your family and for your dog. In a way you’re fortunate to know the cause and what’s coming.

Please don’t wait “too long” as you’ll all suffer if that moment comes.

God bless

 

[Willie B]

... I really hope for the best for you your family and hopefully an easy passing for Sasha...I went through this with my half St. Bernard half Newfoundland mix...As others have said...the emotional pain will set you back for awhile...

 

[MV Mike]

Your a Good Man Dave!!!!

 

[CarolynandBob]

That sucks. Sorry for your loss. Pup's never live as long as you want them to.

 

[FreeBird236]

Sorry Dave, just remember what you gave her and what she gave you.

 

[buck35]

This is a good time to make a few phone calls to the local vets as they deal with this kind of thing . When we had to put our mastiff down the vet came with the guy from the crematorium with a stretcher.

 

[RCDave]

Its the hardest decision to play God and decide when.

Just remember dogs are genetically stoic. They don't show.pain until its stage 9 or 10.

 

[DrunkenSailor]

This sux. I'm sorry Dave. My boy and his dog are best friends not sure how we are gonna deal with that when the time comes. He's gonna be crushed. Really sorry for your loss but glad you get this time. Let her go peacefully and not in pain.

If all else fails and you can't get someone out to the house there's always the old yeller way. I am not sure i could do it with mine but it is an option... better than letting her suffer.

 

[Warlock1]

I think they will be ok. Honestly I think a large part of the problem of our society now s we aren’t accustomed to the circle of life. We buy our food and don’t learn where it comes from.. when our loved ones die they are whisked away by the authorities.

No more wakes.. no more digging the grave etc..

I personally believe that because we as Americans aren’t exposed to it at all it makes dealing with death a lot more traumatic than it used to be, or what it might be in other cultures.

I gave that a lot of thought when my dad passed away.. In retrospect I was happy that he passed away more or less in front of me, and I got to spend sometime saying good bye on that sidewalk as crazy as that sounds.


I am devastated with what is happening, but she is a large dog and we believe she’s about 12 years old (they said she was about three when I adopted her). I knew the day was coming at some point. Even though you know though, you don’t ever think it’s going to be “today.”

With the Covid fears going on they won’t let anyone inside the local vet that we typically use. I can’t bring myself to take her there and just send her inside to die with strange people she has never met.

Last night when I picked her up from the specialist that was as afraid as I have ever seen her.. you could see it in her eyes and she practically dragged me out of there as soon as I got the leash on her. (She doesn’t pull on leashes). I think we owe her more than than to just drop her off.

As I wrote above everything is internal.. She has internal bleeding so she is drinking buckets of water and peeing a lot. She is kinda lazy and she is panting a lot of she has any exertion or gets hot (more than normal). The only other thing is she isn’t really having any bowel movements (concerning).

I am torn between calling someone to come to the house and put her down (when she doesn’t really look that bad) or just letting her live out the short remainder of her life until the mass bursts.

The specialist called me this morning and was kinda surprised she survived the night and had doubts she would make the journey home to Havasu.

She seemed pretty normal to me though in the car and enjoyed her cheeseburger on the way home.
Tonight she had chicken and mashed potatoes with gravy for dinner.. Then she got about half my chicken (I’m not really feeling like eating right now).

The practical side of me is concerned with, when she does pass I’m not entirely sure how I’m going to get her out of my house. When Stacy’s pug passed he was exceptionally heavy (there is a reason it’s called “dead weight”) and he didn’t weigh more than 25/30 pds?

Sasha weighs 117-120’ish pds depending on the day and I’m crippled.. It isn’t the kind of thing that you call your friends for, to help you move your deceased dog. (See above as Americans we don’t really deal with the circle of life well).. and the other part that is concerning like I said above is she isn’t having bowel movements. Meaning that could get quite messy, at the time of passing or at the time of moving the body.

I’m just kinda figuring it out as we go here, and will have to make some hard decisions here in the near future.

I agree with you on this Dave. If you need help just give me a call. I will make the drive. Can't promise I won't be blubbering too, but I will be there...

 

[skiracr]

I saw this thread pop up and was scared to open it... damn.

Sorry to hear about your pup, they become an extension of your children....almost as if they were another limb. It is a difficult decision at a difficult time. Seems like you are going in the right direction. Your Kids will remember that you didn't just drop her off for her eternal nap. Rest easy pup.

I dread the day I have to make that decision for our Dane.

 

[BHC Vic]

I think they will be ok. Honestly I think a large part of the problem of our society now s we aren’t accustomed to the circle of life. We buy our food and don’t learn where it comes from.. when our loved ones die they are whisked away by the authorities.

No more wakes.. no more digging the grave etc..

I personally believe that because we as Americans aren’t exposed to it at all it makes dealing with death a lot more traumatic than it used to be, or what it might be in other cultures.

I gave that a lot of thought when my dad passed away.. In retrospect I was happy that he passed away more or less in front of me, and I got to spend sometime saying good bye on that sidewalk as crazy as that sounds.


I am devastated with what is happening, but she is a large dog and we believe she’s about 12 years old (they said she was about three when I adopted her). I knew the day was coming at some point. Even though you know though, you don’t ever think it’s going to be “today.”

With the Covid fears going on they won’t let anyone inside the local vet that we typically use. I can’t bring myself to take her there and just send her inside to die with strange people she has never met.

Last night when I picked her up from the specialist that was as afraid as I have ever seen her.. you could see it in her eyes and she practically dragged me out of there as soon as I got the leash on her. (She doesn’t pull on leashes). I think we owe her more than than to just drop her off.

As I wrote above everything is internal.. She has internal bleeding so she is drinking buckets of water and peeing a lot. She is kinda lazy and she is panting a lot of she has any exertion or gets hot (more than normal). The only other thing is she isn’t really having any bowel movements (concerning).

I am torn between calling someone to come to the house and put her down (when she doesn’t really look that bad) or just letting her live out the short remainder of her life until the mass bursts.

The specialist called me this morning and was kinda surprised she survived the night and had doubts she would make the journey home to Havasu.

She seemed pretty normal to me though in the car and enjoyed her cheeseburger on the way home.
Tonight she had chicken and mashed potatoes with gravy for dinner.. Then she got about half my chicken (I’m not really feeling like eating right now).

The practical side of me is concerned with, when she does pass I’m not entirely sure how I’m going to get her out of my house. When Stacy’s pug passed he was exceptionally heavy (there is a reason it’s called “dead weight”) and he didn’t weigh more than 25/30 pds?

Sasha weighs 117-120’ish pds depending on the day and I’m crippled.. It isn’t the kind of thing that you call your friends for, to help you move your deceased dog. (See above as Americans we don’t really deal with the circle of life well).. and the other part that is concerning like I said above is she isn’t having bowel movements. Meaning that could get quite messy, at the time of passing or at the time of moving the body.

I’m just kinda figuring it out as we go here, and will have to make some hard decisions here in the near future.

One of the best parts of living in norco and raising animals is learning the circle of life. Just lost the boys turkeys, they are learning about life.

 

[RadMan]

So sorry to read the news for your family pet. These threads are always tough to read but I do it every time front to back over and over because it reminds me more than any time how much I loved and miss my pups that have passed on. Every time I close it I tell myself that’s the last time then I do it again and again. It’s strange that I know more about how others love their pets like me from threads like these than I I ever did before forums like this.
Your pup I’m sure feels the love and comfort your family is giving.

 

[BHC Vic]

As far as what to do after I do t know. I have dogs that i payed a lot of money to have cremated and they live on the fire place. Now animals get buried in the back under the tree. Not sure what’s right or wrong

 

[havasuhusker]

Sorry to about your pup and the agony you and the family must be going through. I'm going through something similar w/our 15 year old beagle. He has cancer too and is exhibiting some of the same symptoms....excessive water drinking/urination/panting...though he does not have a problem with pooping. It just falls out, even when he's sleeping. Thank goodness for tile floors. Easier to cleanup and disinfect.

 

[rivermobster]

As far as what to do after I do t know. I have dogs that i payed a lot of money to have cremated and they live on the fire place. Now animals get buried in the back under the tree. Not sure what’s right or wrong

Whatever works for you is the right thing to do. Same thing applies to @RiverDave

Fuck cancer...

 

[RCDave]

Consistent/excessive panting is a sure sign the dog is experiencing pain

 

[RiverDave]

RD - Lietz-Fraze Funeral Home - LHC - 928-855-4450.They will handle cremation and info for someone come to the house.
Consider calling Dr. McGuire - LHC - 928- 854-6142

I appreciate the phone numbers. McGuire doesn’t do the house call thing. I am making some more calls

 

[WhatExit?]

Can a local vet give you the shot(s) and you can do it yourself at home?

If you have the land I'd bury him/her - we've done that in the past and it's always nice to say hello

 

[79 HUSTLER]

I appreciate the phone numbers. McGuire doesn’t do the house call thing. I am making some more calls

Hate to tell you but I had zero luck getting anyone to come to the house out here a few months back. Even had the office manager at the largest vet in town trying for me with zero luck. I did get a number for one out of Vegas but it was when they were available only which wouldn’t work. Zero vets in town offer this service right now.

 

[Nordie]

My wife works at a vet here in Vegas, I'll ask her some questions when she gets home, she knows people all over the west coast.

 

[RVR SWPR]

I appreciate the phone numbers. McGuire doesn’t do the house call thing. I am making some more calls

You have a lot on your plate today.Seems the funeral home could help w/info.They have been great with us.Our 16 year old pup going down hill fast and we have spoke with Lietz about procedure.McGuire has been awesome,but expects us to sit out in our truck while my best friend is passing in the office.Gotta say McQuire gave us several more months With our guy,but nothing terminal just rapid old age.No doubt Sierra will be helpful explaining this situation to her brother and sister.

 

[FreeBird236]

Can a local vet give you the shot(s) and you can do it yourself at home?

If you have the land I'd bury him/her - we've done that in the past and it's always nice to say hello

I think you need a vein, not sure the average person can do that.

I like your other idea.

 

[endobear]

We had a company called Carring Pathways come put our boy Sam down at the house. Bone cancer.
This was in Colorado but I believe they are a nation wide franchise.

 

[stephenkatsea]

McGuire used a 2 person stretcher for our Newfoundland. That was long before COVID. We were able to be with her.

 

[RiverDave]

So Stacy has been doing a ton of research and came across a fb page that has a ton of people with dogs with similar issues, with regard to the mass(es) abd internal bleeding.

There are people that have been giving their dogs this herbal supplement and it stops the bleeding and results have varied from months to years of life.

Turns out all the vets stock and sell it, but they don’t prescribe it.. (wtf?).

She went and bought some today

I don’t want to look like we are grasping at straws here.. but there really is a ton of success stories on there so we are going to give it a shot and see what happens.

RD

 

[RCDave]

So Stacy has been doing a ton of research and came across a fb page that has a ton of people with dogs with similar issues, with regard to the mass(es) abd internal bleeding.

There are people that have been giving their dogs this herbal supplement and it stops the bleeding and results have varied from months to years of life.

Turns out all the vets stick and sell it, but they don’t prescribe it.. (wtf?).

She went and bought some today

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I don’t want to look like we are grasping at straws here.. but there really is a ton of success stories on there so we are going to give it a shot and see what happens.

RD

Worth a shot if the dog isn't too far gone.

We've used it after one of our girls had a C Section. Seemed to speed healing and reduce bleeding post op.

Just make sure you administer inside a food item like cheese. It has a very very very strong order and taste

 

[stephenkatsea]

Totally understand. As we did our best to make our Newfoundland as comfortable as possible, her breeder mentioned to us to remember that large and giant breed dogs will not typically show signs of pain. Seems by nature they may feel it is a sign of weakness.

 

[Long Way Home]

I would be trying everything because receiving a diagnosis of a chronic disease can be difficult to wrap your mind around and there is no easy solution for treating a dog that is sick/pain. Hope this works, Best of luck.

 

[Mandelon]

Dogs lives are too damn short. I still remember Neva giving me the suspicious once over on your patio in the keys.

 

[RiverDave]

Totally understand. As we did our best to make our Newfoundland as comfortable as possible, her breeder mentioned to us to remember that large and giant breed dogs will not typically show signs of pain. Seems by nature they may feel it is a sign of weakness.

Contrary to my initial description of Sasha in the first post.. Sasha is kind of a wussy, always has been. She yelps if she even gets uncomfortable, let alone hurt, and then whines about it for awhile..

She doesn't appear to be in any pain right now, I think she just doesn't feel well. The good news is she took a pretty good sized shit today, which was one of my major concerns. We gave her the pill, and are going to start administering it regularly. We will see how it goes.

RD

 

[stephenkatsea]

You're so right. Her Dump was a big deal. She sure looks very happy to be with her kids. That means a bunch to her and the kids. Great dog and you are doing your best. Sure wish sometimes they could talk. They give us unquestioned love. You and your family are returning the same. Hoping she responds well to those new meds.

 

[jadenchick]

Please try the CBD oil as well. Please check out the website and start her on it. It will help with her issues. They won’t go away but it will ease the pain and bring the appetite back. So sorry for your pup!!!!

 

[RiverDave]

I haven’t updated the thread because I didn’t want to “jinx” the progress. We started her on that supplement and then those dissolving phosphorus tablets..

I have no way of telling if it stopped the internal blleeding or not but I can tell you she seems back to her normal self!!

Maybe a little lazier then normal, but she’s always been lazy so it’s hard to say?

Either way she is off dog food completely and has been getting home cooked breakfasts and dinners.. yesterday she had ground turkey potatoes squash gravy and some other stuff..

for reference me and the kids had hot dogs.. lol

 

[DrunkenSailor]

Awesome news Dave. Hoping for the best. At the very least she is a happy dog with meals like that.

 

[6 balls]

@RiverDave how is Sasha doing?
Just going through some stuff with my pup... got to thinking that I hadn’t seen any updates on how she’s doing.

 

[RiverDave]

@RiverDave how is Sasha doing?
Just going through some stuff with my pup... got to thinking that I hadn’t seen any updates on how she’s doing.

I have been kinda laying low because I don’t want to post the dog is fine just to have a mass burst and have to say she passed away the next day.

What I will tell you is we are giving her that herbal supplement and some other supplements and taken her off dog food and she gets hole cooked food everyday now..
Dog is acting 100% normal and externally looks normal? Except her fur is a little bit softer from all the eggs she’s been getting

 

[ChumpChange]

I have been kinda laying low because I don’t want to post the dog is fine just to have a mass burst and have to say she passed away the next day.

What I will tell you is we are giving her that herbal supplement and some other supplements and taken her off dog food and she gets hole cooked food everyday now..
Dog is acting 100% normal and externally looks normal? Except her fur is a little bit softer from all the eggs she’s been getting

Moved my chocolate lab from an outside dog to an inside dog a month or so ago. Gets the good food now as well. Just like yours, complete change in dog.

 

[WhatExit?]

Great to hear this news Dave.

We've always fed our dog Sadie home-cooked food as she's small - only 8 lbs. - and she's had pancreatitis attacks that have almost killed her. She's sensitive to fat in her diet so she primarily gets chicken and green beans and low fat cottage cheese (separately).

 

[mjc]

I have been kinda laying low because I don’t want to post the dog is fine just to have a mass burst and have to say she passed away the next day.

What I will tell you is we are giving her that herbal supplement and some other supplements and taken her off dog food and she gets hole cooked food everyday now..
Dog is acting 100% normal and externally looks normal? Except her fur is a little bit softer from all the eggs she’s been getting

You might want to try this. My dog loved it and easier than cooking everyday. they have it at Petsmart.

 

[Singleton]

I have been kinda laying low because I don’t want to post the dog is fine just to have a mass burst and have to say she passed away the next day.

What I will tell you is we are giving her that herbal supplement and some other supplements and taken her off dog food and she gets hole cooked food everyday now..
Dog is acting 100% normal and externally looks normal? Except her fur is a little bit softer from all the eggs she’s been getting

they sell some pre-packaged, 100% food grade dog food at the stores now.
our new dog is on lamb and lentils with chicken.

 

[RiverDave]

they sell some pre-packaged, 100% food grade dog food at the stores now.
our new dog is on lamb and lentils with chicken.

We were feeding her Abound which I thought was a pretty good food?

 

[Singleton]

We were feeding her Abound which I thought was a pretty good food?

reviews look good. Very similar to the food my new beast gets

 

[boatpi]

I had to rescue dogs from the orange county animal shelter both are pretty darn good the first one was a basset mix just a fabulous personality.

I named her Elvira mistress of the dark!!

remember these dogs are a member of your family their damn near human.

 

[RiverDave]

reviews look good. Very similar to the food my new beast gets

Well two dogs in a row both got cancer so I’m over that food..

 

[Singleton]

Well two dogs in a row both got cancer so I’m over that food..

we are using Fromm Dry Food and Weruva dogs in the Kitchen

 

[USMC2010]

I have had really good results from Dick Van Patten's Natural Balance foods, both dog and cat. The coat shine says it all.

 

[wash11]

Not sure how I missed this thread before. We're doing beef delivery in Havasu this Thursday and will stop by with grass fed beef heart and kidney to add to your baby's diet. Easy to cook up, full of nutrients and tasty too. Oh, and some meaty bones for chew toys if you want. Sorry you guys are going through this.

 

[Carlson-jet]

I feed my doggo Raw meat and vegetables. Sometimes it is fish, Beef,Lamb Bison, Chicken. Turkey, Rabbit or Venison. He Loves Raw baby carrots and peas.
I take him for 10 mile a day bike rides and he is the leader for the first 7-8. He gets water and a walk /trot every 3 miles.
Dogs were made to eat a Variety of Raw meat.

 

[stephenkatsea]

RD-Really good to hear how good your dog is doing. We've had 3 dogs since 1980.. A large male Bassett hound rescue, a very large male golden retriever rescue and a female Newfoundland purchased from a good breeder. Each dog lived to about 12. Each were fed a good kibble with a little canned dog food mixed in. Various forms of cancer ended up taking each of our dogs. Friggin' cancer seems to be far too common in dogs. They each had good lives. But, we sure would have liked to have each live longer. Cancer Sucks.

 

[BHC Vic]

Wife says those fancy foods have been causing a lot of heart problems. Our big dog eats authority large breed senior and the two little dogs eat natural pet power fusion poultry