MAGIC BOX DAVE - HERE IS YOUR RDP SPECIAL

[Waffles]

Thats great for you, I suppose, but kind of a dick post on your part .:drink:drink:fart:

And you are? Lol

 

[RiverDave]

You have to have some skin in the game letting some guy advertise(read sell) for a service or product on your site. I'm sure you wouldn't let this shit slide with another user trying to advertise / sell a product for free. And I dont claim to be a kodi guy. It's not rocket science where you need a coding degree to get this shit running. It's about educating the average Joe. Isnt that what your site is about? Educating users on subject foreign to them?

OK so when I say again for now the third time I'm not getting paid for this.. what will your reply be? let's start there and work up.

After we get past that we can solve the next simple question.

 

[Joker]

I'm going to agree with Waffles here. I can pull anything on the firestick that these dream boxes pull. Maybe not HD UFC, but I don't need HD for a fight. All other programming is there if you can figure out how to get it.
For someone that doesn't want to program their own stuff, the boxes are for them.

 

[RiverDave]

For someone that doesn't want to program their own stuff, the boxes are for them.

Which is 100% what I have said from the beginning!! lol.

For me the three hundred bucks to not have to screw with it is worth it. For someone more tech you it may not be.

 

[buck35]

And you are? Lol

I thought I was quoting someone else and it didn't work. We all are not born into this shit , and if I can buy it , then why not? People learn skills I dont have and I'm willing to pay . I have skills others do not and it costs them, whats the difference?

 

[squirtnmyload]

Anyone paying 300 bucks for a box is fucking nuts. Fired up my fire tv from archstream and let me tell you. I honestly should have made the switch a lot sooner. It has everything and more.

Pretty much my thoughts. Yet there are people saying you and i are nuts for paying $150!

My arcstream firebox gets every sporting event in HD with no issues so i don't get what the magic box guy is saying when he says no other boxes will?

 

[Joker]

Which is 100% what I have said from the beginning!! lol.

For me the three hundred bucks to not have to screw with it is worth it. For someone more tech you it may not be.

Yup, I hate dicking around with these things, but it's fun to see what can be done.[emoji106]

 

[Waffles]

OK so when I say again for now the third time I'm not getting paid for this.. what will your reply be? let's start there and work up.

After we get past that we can solve the next simple question.

So anyone can start a group buy or advertise a product with out repercussion or getting their threads deleted?

 

[RiverDave]

Pretty much my thoughts. Yet there are people saying you and i are nuts for paying $150!

My arcstream firebox gets every sporting event in HD with no issues so i don't get what the magic box guy is saying when he says no other boxes will?

through what repo?

 

[Danger Dave]

Maybe I'm stupid but we have a Streamsmart Pro and the Renegade box, they both work as advertised. I come home and watch any NHL game I want. Wife watches all her shows and all the movies she wants. Traded our $250/month cable bill for a $65/month internet bill. I'll probably get one more Renegade just so we have a box on every TV.

 

[460]

Pretty much my thoughts. Yet there are people saying you and i are nuts for paying $150!

My arcstream firebox gets every sporting event in HD with no issues so i don't get what the magic box guy is saying when he says no other boxes will?

In one day I can see you pretty much get anything you want. Few clicks and a movie. Few clicks and a hockey game. Few clicks you can get All porn you want. 300-400 bucks is stupid. Best 150 we have spend.

 

[Waffles]

I thought I was quoting someone else and it didn't work. We all are not born into this shit , and if I can buy it , then why not? People learn skills I dont have and I'm willing to pay . I have skills others do not and it costs them, whats the difference?

The difference is I'm trying to educate people on how these things work and Dave and his seller are pushing inferior products to the ignorant. Like I said it's not rocket science. Ive posted up everything from advice on service plans to hardware requirements while Dave has posted up saying all you need is 15mbps to get these things to work lol. Advance Home networks that depend on Internet speed require more than that. Dave already claimed that the box doesn't matter as much as the service when In reality everything goes hand in hand. These boxes are running 4-5 year old software that AREN'T upgradeable and WILL become paperweights sooner than later. Kodi is at krypton 17.1 right now. Do you think developers are upgrading their systems on 4-5 year old technology that isn't being supported anymore? Would you be ok with spending 4-500 on something that's going to be obsolete in a year or so?

 

[squirtnmyload]

through what repo?

Whats a repo? Lol
I click on pro sports, click on nhl, mlb, nfl, etc and then the games are listed.

If i want to watch cricket in india, table tennis in korea, handball in sweden, the all england badminton open or curling in scotland then i need to dive in to find it....but it is on there lol

 

[USMC2010]

Not really, I'm killing it on a 25Mb dsl. HD streams don't require as much bandwidth as everyone thinks. I'm a tech but don't know how far down the rabbit hole I want to go learning and searching for good repos. I bought 2 boxes and have a fire stick, using them each for sports are night and day and I've done it on both. I do not have any desire to watch a crap signal for a sporting event on a 65" or 70" screen. Do I think they are overpriced from what I do know? Yes, do I care? Not really.

 

[RiverDave]

So anyone can start a group buy or advertise a product with out repercussion or getting their threads deleted?

Waffles.. I'm in bed and on my phone.. I don't really feel like having some all night long debate with you over this retarded shit.. Later tonight? Tomorrow am, I would be happy to explain all the idiosyncrasies of the board it's rules, my relationship with cable box Dave and so on and so on..

In the meantime, take it for face value.. I'm. not getting paid. As for the rest I have heard all the same claims, but in my experience I have found them to be not a 100% what people always say they are.. granted I'm not a kodi expert and I can't even load kodi on a firestick. For watching TV and Movies I can run two of my three firesticks no problem. One that I purchased no longer works and damned If I can figure it out. I have wasted hours of my life trying too and at some point I say to myself.. Magic Box I push a button shit works.. To me it's worth the dough. To you it's not? no big deal. Different strokes for different folks.

I will say though historically if ole magic box Dave tells me something.. Like for example his shit streams UFC in HD and others don't.. I have found his past claims to be accurate where others there's always some "hitch.". That's all I'm saying

 

[RiverDave]

Not really, I'm killing it on a 25Mb dsl. HD streams don't require as much bandwidth as everyone thinks. I'm a tech but don't know how far down the rabbit hole I want to go learning and searching for good repos. I bought 2 boxes and have a fire stick, using them each for sports are night and day and I've done it on both. I do not have any desire to watch a crap signal for a sporting event on a 65" or 70" screen. Do I think they are overpriced from what I do know? Yes, do I care? Not really.

bingo..

 

[squirtnmyload]

Plus there is an amazon fire tv remote app for your phone. Fuck backlit keyboards

 

[squirtnmyload]

Not really, I'm killing it on a 25Mb dsl. HD streams don't require as much bandwidth as everyone thinks. I'm a tech but don't know how far down the rabbit hole I want to go learning and searching for good repos. I bought 2 boxes and have a fire stick, using them each for sports are night and day and I've done it on both. I do not have any desire to watch a crap signal for a sporting event on a 65" or 70" screen. Do I think they are overpriced from what I do know? Yes, do I care? Not really.

I'm watching the coyotes game on an arcstream amazon firebox.......picture seems good to me?

 

[USMC2010]

What app?

 

[squirtnmyload]

Pro sports

 

[460]

Plus there is an amazon fire tv remote app for your phone. Fuck backlit keyboards

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Connected to the box while I'm at the gym. Bet the 400 dollar box can't do that.

 

[Waffles]

I'm watching the coyotes game on an arcstream amazon firebox.......picture seems good to me?

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I'm watching the ducks hawks game through prosport. HD no buffering no subscription lol

 

[USMC2010]

[emoji1303] I found it a struggle for the last NFL season, I expect better next year as these things are only getting better as time goes on.

 

[squirtnmyload]

Just like everything else, there are price ranges and options. If it was the only option and it was 500 bucks i'd pay it, because it is worth it. I went with arcstream because i wanted an amazon based box,he is local to phoenix and i liked all the vids and info he gave me.

But i just don't understand how one guy can say "those other boxes can't get this or that" when from my experiences with these things it is the opposite.

 

[Tank]

Plus there is an amazon fire tv remote app for your phone. Fuck backlit keyboards

There's actually a cell phone control app for Kodi that should essentially work for all the devices.

 

[Waffles]

The sad thing is, those that dave is talking shit on that are "open source" geeks living in their parents house.. that absolutely despise the guys like Spencer and Dave and people like them that are making money , are the reason kodi exists. Dave and Spencer arent doing shit other than profiting off others hard work. When this shit fails, all those that paid thousands on these boxes are going to be left with their dicks in their hands wondering what happened.

 

[squirtnmyload]

There's actually a cell phone control app for Kodi that should essentially work for all the devices.

Nice! I just looked, seems there are quite a few! Do you recommend a certain one?

 

[USMC2010]

When and if that happens I will dig into it further I just don't want to now. My two boxes i bought have paid for themselves months ago. I'll deal with any potential failure fallout later.

 

[Tank]

Nice! I just looked, seems there are quite a few! Do you recommend a certain one?

Actually, I haven't used one yet. Just know that they're out there and work really well from what I've been shown / seen.

 

[460]

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[USMC2010]

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Is this the arcstream a couple of you keep pimping? Doesn't look completely free to me or any better/worse than any build offered from supreme builds. :drink
http://www.arcstream.net/server

 

[Bigbore500r]

Plus there is an amazon fire tv remote app for your phone. Fuck backlit keyboards

There's a KODI app for your phone as well. Works with any Item running KODI on your Wifi

 

[Tackleberry]

Pro sport is spotty at best, and next to useless during football season without acestream. Its also loaded on every generic $50 box you can buy anywhere, so quit acting like you're fucking geniuses, and part of some secret society. I bet you guys don't even know how to watch MMA, Nascar, F1, College FB and Bball with Pro Sport. The selection of games available and ease of finding a good stream is worth its weight in gold.

 

[Boozer]

The sad thing is, those that dave is talking shit on that are "open source" geeks living in their parents house.. that absolutely despise the guys like Spencer and Dave and people like them that are making money , are the reason kodi exists. Dave and Spencer arent doing shit other than profiting off others hard work. When this shit fails, all those that paid thousands on these boxes are going to be left with their dicks in their hands wondering what happened.

Lemme just stop ya right there.

Your attack on RD is inappropriate and uncalled for. RD is making no money on this deal. Before this thread was launched he called me and asked me if I'd be willing to run the magic box deal and take no money for himself. He's getting zero, zip nada from Dave Montana on this deal. His intentions were to hook the forum members up with bad ass Magic boxes at a good price.

As far as the boxes go and the Kodi programmers go.. I posted a thread on how to build a $60 Magic Box. Event after that thread was posted a lot of folks bought the boxes from Dave because their time is money and they'd rather spend the money than spend a shit load of time programming their own Magic box.

Tomorrow morning I'm going to stop by Starbucks and spend $4 on a coffee. I could easily make the coffee myself and save $3.50 but it's a hell of a lot easier and convenient for me to spend $4 on my way to work and let Starbucks make the coffee for me.....

 

[460]

Is this the arcstream a couple of you keep pimping? Doesn't look completely free to me or any better/worse than any build offered from supreme builds. :drink
http://www.arcstream.net/server
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That's only if you want to be on his server. Updates, special content etc. you don't have to for the box to work.

 

[Bigbore500r]

The sad thing is, those that dave is talking shit on that are "open source" geeks living in their parents house.. that absolutely despise the guys like Spencer and Dave and people like them that are making money , are the reason kodi exists. Dave and Spencer arent doing shit other than profiting off others hard work. When this shit fails, all those that paid thousands on these boxes are going to be left with their dicks in their hands wondering what happened.

I get what your saying, but why paint them to be the devil?

I bought a S3 from Dave when these first hit RDP. Then I got another. I still use both of them daily 3 years later. They auto-update and refresh with the latest apps. They still work for UFC in HD (most of the time...they're old). My wife doesn't know how to do anything computer wise besides email - but she can just hit the button and watch anything she wants.

Works as advertised, cost is at a premium, but does everything it says. What's the problem?

 

[USMC2010]

That's only if you want to be on his server. Updates, special content etc. you don't have to for the box to work.

My point is you are foo-fooing on someone's stuff praising another that is all but doing the same crap "but arcstream will do it better if you PAY for it" Get it yet?LOL!

 

[460]

My point is you are foo-fooing on someone's stuff praising another that is all but doing the same crap "but arcstream will do it better if you PAY for it" Get it yet?LOL!

lol I paid 159. Just cause some choose to be on the guys server doesn't mean I am. I'll update it myself.

 

[squirtnmyload]

Pro sport is spotty at best, and next to useless during football season without acestream. Its also loaded on every generic $50 box you can buy anywhere, so quit acting like you're fucking geniuses, and part of some secret society. I bet you guys don't even know how to watch MMA, Nascar, F1, College FB and Bball with Pro Sport. The selection of games available and ease of finding a good stream is worth its weight in gold.

Relax. Maybe you're right. I don't spend 80 hours a week watching tv, and i do not watch all of those other sports you mentioned. There is probably 15 other sports apps on there but tonight i'm up hanging out with my 1 month old daughter while mom gets some sleep. Fired up the box, I clicked on pro sports and it has been flawless as usual for NHL games. No secret society here.

 

[USMC2010]

My firestick I bought for 80 preloaded, now I know how to build them and the fire tv myself. No I am not selling nor do I want to. It costs me nothing beyond hardware to put one together using the supreme builds stuff (same more or less as arcstream) but try as I might, I have not had as good of success watching a good signal of live sports on any repos outside of the boxes. I absolutely do not think they are worth the full asking price of +/- 500 but there is a soft dollar amount that makes them worth it. I've done side by side comparisons for friends and there is a difference no matter how one screams there isn't. Some of the repos/apps are just better than the others and for everyone using this stuff in whatever form you are you cannot deny that.

 

[Tank]

Lemme just stop ya right there.

Your attack on RD is inappropriate and uncalled for. RD is making no money on this deal. Before this thread was launched he called me and asked me if I'd be willing to run the magic box deal and take no money for himself. He's getting zero, zip nada from Dave Montana on this deal. His intentions were to hook the forum members up with bad ass Magic boxes at a good price.

As far as the boxes go and the Kodi programmers go.. I posted a thread on how to build a $60 Magic Box. Event after that thread was posted a lot of folks bought the boxes from Dave because their time is money and they'd rather spend the money than spend a shit load of time programming their own Magic box.

Tomorrow morning I'm going to stop by Starbucks and spend $4 on a coffee. I could easily make the coffee myself and save $3.50 but it's a hell of a lot easier and convenient for me to spend $4 on my way to work and let Starbucks make the coffee for me.....

This is a good analogy. Except I'd compare it to a cup of Starbucks compared to going out and raising your coffee beans, roasting them, grinding them then making your own coffee because I know just as much about that (probably more come to think of it) than I do with installing Kodi and all that crap. I'm on the same page as RD...I want the shit to work with minimal to zero effort.

To go back to what Waffle said to RD earlier in regards to RD getting upset about anyone else posting: I've posted on here regarding other brand boxes for sale. RD didn't delete the thread. It's still in the classified area. I just kinda dropped it because I wasn't trying to step on anyones established cha cha and if the inmates were getting what they needed then whatever. I was just passing along what I thought was a killer deal. I've bought a couple of these other boxes for me and have been absolutely thrilled with them. well worth the money! The 15 or so that I sold for to others, I've had nothing but praise and a handful of those buyers already had jail broken firesticks.

Anyway, again - from a customer that doesn't want any hassles, wants to turn on the box and watch whatever the fuck I want when I want, it's a no brainer. Not to mention I lowered my internet and TV bill from $270 a month to $120. Box already paid for itself.

 

[Tackleberry]

Relax. Maybe you're right. I don't spend 80 hours a week watching tv, and i do not watch all of those other sports you mentioned. There is probably 15 other sports apps on there but tonight i'm up hanging out with my 1 month old daughter while mom gets some sleep. Fired up the box, I clicked on pro sports and it has been flawless as usual for NHL games. No secret society here.

Pro Sport is great for what it is, it's just limited is all. I spent too much time going through different add-ons trying to find a decent stream for Raider or USC football. I bought a Streamsmart S4 halfway through the season and didn't have trouble watching a game the rest of the year. I sure don't miss sifting through those 15 add-ons praying to find a decent stream.

If the non subscription add-ons are good enough for you, awesome. But don't begrudge people for wanting, and paying for more. I've gone the free route, and I wouldn't go back.

 

[squirtnmyload]

Pro Sport is great for what it is, it's just limited is all. I spent too much time going through different add-ons trying to find a decent stream for Raider or USC football. I bought a Streamsmart S4 halfway through the season and didn't have trouble watching a game the rest of the year. I sure don't miss sifting through those 15 add-ons praying to find a decent stream.

If the non subscription add-ons are good enough for you, awesome. But don't begrudge people for wanting, and paying for more. I've gone the free route, and I wouldn't go back.

I pay 15 bucks a year on my box so mine isn't "free". I turn it on maybe twice a week but my wife is on it almost every day especially now that she is home with our daughter.

Like i said before, i have no problem with people paying whatever if they choose too. I would have no issues dropping the coin. It's just that this is the internet so you can't take anyones word as gospel on a subject. Just bringing light to other options.

 

[RiverDave]

Just like everything else, there are price ranges and options. If it was the only option and it was 500 bucks i'd pay it, because it is worth it. I went with arcstream because i wanted an amazon based box,he is local to phoenix and i liked all the vids and info he gave me.

But i just don't understand how one guy can say "those other boxes can't get this or that" when from my experiences with these things it is the opposite.

Well the next big ppv fight I will video me going to dragon streams and what it takes to put it on. (which will basically he clicking through 2/3 streams).

I would very much like to see what it takes on the arc stream. If it's the same shit then I guess that's the new thing.

For Daves sake I hope it isn't.. but I gotta say I have heard this story before it it has never panned out.. There's a reason halfway into the prelims I had to ditch my firestick and go grab an oldschool magic box out of the house and hook it up. That was after screwing with the firestick for an hour, going to fb pages, paying 2.00 to get a stream etc..

That's one of the large reasons I'm such a fan of the magic box. It just works when you need it too.

For Shows / Movies etc a cheaper option suits the purpose just fine. I'm watching tv shows in my bedroom on one of Headshothills' firestick right now.

 

[Tackleberry]

I pay 15 bucks a year on my box so mine isn't "free". I turn it on maybe twice a week but my wife is on it almost every day especially now that she is home with our daughter.

Like i said before, i have no problem with people paying whatever if they choose too. I would have no issues dropping the coin. It's just that this is the internet so you can't take anyones word as gospel on a subject. Just bringing light to other options.

No doubt dude, my original post was more aimed at the guys being jerks about it.

 

[RiverDave]

These are the very things that I have said all along.. For people that don't care and just want it to work then this is the one for you... and we come full circle to the same thing that I have said for four years..

Is the magic box expensive? Yes. Does it do things that all the other ones won't? Yes. Does it have better streams for sports and ppv fights? Yes.

Are there cheaper options out there? YES! are they completely as good in an apples to apples comparison? NO.

I'm not sure why you guys think I'm over here twisting my evil mustache.. Or some are trying to paint Daves Magic Box in some kind of negative light.

We all know there are cheaper options. Hell Chris Hills sold a ton of firesticks on here. It ain't a secret. The only issue I have is the disinformation of claiming they are the same thing for half the price because they aren't.

To get to the point of the conversation at hand, with regard to things like this (speaking to waffles and anyone else curious to know) I try to do what I feel is best for the members... It isn't always about chasing the almighty dollar. (although I like making money too don't get me wrong). I make those decisions with the information I have in front of me. Have I been a 100% right in every scenario over the years? Well let me save you the suspense, I'm not Jesus nor am I all knowing.

With regard to this subject though I'll stick by my recommendation for one simple reason. What I personally use the magic box for which to be specific would be to watch Tv and Movies.. and secondarily would be to have a bunch of people over to the house to occasionally watch a PPV fight I haven't found anything that compares.

That's not to say that someday down the road something might come along that's better?? For right now though for those purposes and ease of use (not paying maintenance or a subscriptions). it is still the best one for my needs and my perceived needs for the membership of rdp. Why that makes me an asshole or what some could possibly find in those reasons to justify some of the asshole posts in this thread I'm not sure.. but generally if someone comes in both barrels like that the problem usually isn't the subject matter but something else entirely.

 

[BHC Vic]

You know it's a good thread now... crying Jordan made his appearance 😏

 

[Joker]

I'm not one that thinks Dave is making money on these boxes but he has one, likes it and promotes it. This is like the Chevy, Ford or Dodge argument. There is always something better out there depending on who you talk to.
Personally, I'm never getting rid of DTV, not interested in UFC at home. Prefer going to the bar to watch it and I could give a rats ass about watching sports 24/7. I guess this is why I'm happy with the firestick.[emoji106]

 

[Waffles]

Lemme just stop ya right there.

Your attack on RD is inappropriate and uncalled for. RD is making no money on this deal. Before this thread was launched he called me and asked me if I'd be willing to run the magic box deal and take no money for himself. He's getting zero, zip nada from Dave Montana on this deal. His intentions were to hook the forum members up with bad ass Magic boxes at a good price.

As far as the boxes go and the Kodi programmers go.. I posted a thread on how to build a $60 Magic Box. Event after that thread was posted a lot of folks bought the boxes from Dave because their time is money and they'd rather spend the money than spend a shit load of time programming their own Magic box.

Tomorrow morning I'm going to stop by Starbucks and spend $4 on a coffee. I could easily make the coffee myself and save $3.50 but it's a hell of a lot easier and convenient for me to spend $4 on my way to work and let Starbucks make the coffee for me.....

As inappropriate as it might be, i feel its warranted. Again, i have no problem with people capitalizing on whatever trend happens to be hot that year. I do, however, have a problem with people taking advantage of the uneducated by selling them snake oil. Its the blind leading (and profiting off of)the blind. Especially when users have claimed to buy not one....but multiple boxes for all their rooms. This isnt a $4 coffee. I thought most of the inmates were proud diyers looking to possibly save some cash in the process. Your not building a boat from scratch here. You dont need a coding degree to program kodi and load a build. It takes all of 5 min max to do this.
Look at my posts. I could honestly give a shit about what repos do what. Most of my posts have been about hardware issues and home network requirements which no one, besides yourself, has addressed. Daves crutch is reverting back to the paid subscription lol.

Its like you trying to sell me a DCB m41 wide body with a 6hp tohatsu strapped to the back of it.
Me:But hey boozer.....will that little thing be enough to push a 40 footer?
You: ITLL GET YOU FROM POINT A TO POINT B! ITS A DCB! IT HAS SCREENS ON THE DASH! LOOK AT THE SIIIIIICK GEL!
Me: So i cant repower to a bigger package even though im paying for a 150k boat.....
You: WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO?! ITS PERMANANTLY MOLDED INTO THE HULL! LOOK AT THE STITCHING IN THE ALCANTARA THOUGH! ITS ON A TILT TRAILER!!!!!!!!

Solid starbucks analogy btw. Another example of people over paying for a service and shit coffee thinking its a hell of a lot easier when in fact it isnt. Time is money? lol

Btw Dave. The only reason i made that assumption was because of how hard you pushed a product you seem to know little about .....on a "boating" forum of all places. That and it being YOUR forum you can see how one could come to these assumptions. If im wrong, i do apologize for accusing you in having some skin in the game. Understand though thats how it looks like from a user on the outside looking in.

 

[USMC2010]

What build do you use waffles? Do you load your own from scratch? If so with what? Outside of you beating down the hardware you have not been very forthcoming in what you use/do for a build in your system unless I missed it.