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That's a tall order having one quad to this variety of riders. I'd get two if you can. A yamaha raptor 250r and a Yamaha raptor 450 EFI

Yep. Or just go with the 400, and mod it up a bit. That will be your Best choice if it has to accommodate a beginner now and then.

The Suzuki or Kawai. Definitely not a Honda! 😁
 

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Yep. Or just go with the 400, and mod it up a bit. That will be your Best choice if it has to accommodate a beginner now and then.

The Suzuki or Kawai. Definitely not a Honda! 😁

They are the same fucking quad, nice play Josie. Except one is green. 🤢

I dont think the 400 is an everyone quad but its close. We kept our Honda Sport Trax 250 around for those duties. 5 spd, no manual clutch, I put a hitch on it, used it for all kinds of stupid shit including recovery of most the broken shit.
If someone wanted to be Evel Knivel on it and started complaining I'd just tell them to go get your own quad and while your at it a different riding group where whining is key. ;)
 

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School Bus lol. I run a +6 swingarm on my banshee and can turn it no problem in the small dunes in glamis or tight turns. Paddles make the most difference not swingarm. Want to turn use a v paddle. The best are sand skate II from STU if you can find them as they are discontinued. want to go straight us a straight blade like haulers.

Personally if you are a good rider and know how to use the throttle you can turn anything. I run a 22 inch 7 paddle hauler on a banshee with a +6 swingarm and can slide the ass end around every dune i want. just need to know you bike and how to ride. I will say having wider arms and axle do help with stability especially on a banshee or 250r
Your right all the pro quad MX racers run +6 extended swing arms. My bad.

I have a different idea of what riding fast is.
 

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They are the same fucking quad, nice play Josie. Except one is green. 🤢

I dont think the 400 is an everyone quad but its close. We kept our Honda Sport Trax 250 around for those duties. 5 spd, no manual clutch, I put a hitch on it, used it for all kinds of stupid shit including recovery of most the broken shit.
If someone wanted to be Evel Knivel on it and started complaining I'd just tell them to go get your own quad and while your at it a different riding group where whining is key. ;)

And that is Exactly why I said that!!! 😂

The Suzuki OR the Kawai. They are exactly the same machine. 😉
 

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Your right all the pro quad MX racers run +6 extended swing arms. My bad.

I have a different idea of what riding fast is.
No I never said anything about mx racers or any of the sort. I was referring to dune riding which is what the OP was originally asking about. Just pointing out a extended swing arm doesnt make a quad a school bus to turn.
 

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This thread has caused me to miss Glamis. We did this countless times. Maybe 10-12 of us mostly on Banshee's. This is in say 1994-2003. Sold all the quads in 2003 and just rode my CR500 until I faded away in like 2005. Oh and I built an 89 CR500 that ran on Alcohol during that time period. I have a long list of stupid shit ass mistakes.

Pad 3, 7 AM, cool breeze, March whenever... a typical Saturday. Up late Friday night bitching about the world...Lots of yawns until some asshat friend started up. FUCK. game on.

Coolers full of water bottles filled with fuel, Pair-A-Dice in 18 min (no lie), breakfast and beer, across the 8, ride to the border monuments, then often into Mexico to the dunes end (they drop right into beautiful green farmland), in goes the fuel, drink your only water bottle, back across the 8, to the right into Gordons, over to Ted Kiff, drag race up to Jeanie's, drink, eat, fill up with her 20 year old premix, beer into coolers, cough up a lung from her chain smoking, debate Nascar for 9 seconds, ride to Olds, watch the sun go down, hang there until 10 pm, get back to pad 3 in like 15 min in the pitch black, cook a massive dinner, fire antics (I will not discuss) face cramped up from laughter. Bed around 3 am.

Get up and on the road by 9:00 am.

Those that know, we'll.... salute. 👍 👍
 

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I do miss my 250r Atc. Sold it to buy my cr500 500 is nice on power though

as for quads hot my son a z400 a couple years ago he loves it went up from his blaster. Now my daughter rides it too. Son follows on rides daughter rides near camp. 450s are faster for sure and better but 400 is comfy.
 

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This thread has caused me to miss Glamis. We did this countless times. Maybe 10-12 of us mostly on Banshee's. This is in say 1994-2003. Sold all the quads in 2003 and just rode my CR500 until I faded away in like 2005. Oh and I built an 89 CR500 that ran on Alcohol during that time period. I have a long list of stupid shit ass mistakes.

Pad 3, 7 AM, cool breeze, March whenever... a typical Saturday. Up late Friday night bitching about the world...Lots of yawns until some asshat friend started up. FUCK. game on.

Coolers full of water bottles filled with fuel, Pair-A-Dice in 18 min (no lie), breakfast and beer, across the 8, ride to the border monuments, then often into Mexico to the dunes end (they drop right into beautiful green farmland), in goes the fuel, drink your only water bottle, back across the 8, to the right into Gordons, over to Ted Kiff, drag race up to Jeanie's, drink, eat, fill up with her 20 year old premix, beer into coolers, cough up a lung from her chain smoking, debate Nascar for 9 seconds, ride to Olds, watch the sun go down, hang there until 10 pm, get back to pad 3 in like 15 min in the pitch black, cook a massive dinner, fire antics (I will not discuss) face cramped up from laughter. Bed around 3 am.

Get up and on the road by 9:00 am.

Those that know, we'll.... salute. 👍 👍

mag light taped to fender for light to ride back??😱with the lighting we have today on bugggys I don’t know how in the hell we rode back then flashlight taped on.
 

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This thread has caused me to miss Glamis. We did this countless times. Maybe 10-12 of us mostly on Banshee's. This is in say 1994-2003. Sold all the quads in 2003 and just rode my CR500 until I faded away in like 2005. Oh and I built an 89 CR500 that ran on Alcohol during that time period. I have a long list of stupid shit ass mistakes.

Pad 3, 7 AM, cool breeze, March whenever... a typical Saturday. Up late Friday night bitching about the world...Lots of yawns until some asshat friend started up. FUCK. game on.

Coolers full of water bottles filled with fuel, Pair-A-Dice in 18 min (no lie), breakfast and beer, across the 8, ride to the border monuments, then often into Mexico to the dunes end (they drop right into beautiful green farmland), in goes the fuel, drink your only water bottle, back across the 8, to the right into Gordons, over to Ted Kiff, drag race up to Jeanie's, drink, eat, fill up with her 20 year old premix, beer into coolers, cough up a lung from her chain smoking, debate Nascar for 9 seconds, ride to Olds, watch the sun go down, hang there until 10 pm, get back to pad 3 in like 15 min in the pitch black, cook a massive dinner, fire antics (I will not discuss) face cramped up from laughter. Bed around 3 am.

Get up and on the road by 9:00 am.

Those that know, we'll.... salute. 👍 👍

Gecko?

Baller.

😁
 

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mag light taped to fender for light to ride back??😱with the lighting we have today on bugggys I don’t know how in the hell we rode back then flashlight taped on.

Yep, we might be related, LOL.

All that shit was in play. The Alcohol bike overheated constantly and used 2x the fuel so I had to back pack everywhere.

I rode Bikes and Quads. Quads much easier especially when tired.

The group was changing into custom rails and I was not interested in financing a sole purpose car With a three rotor or Northstar as I was ready to start jeeping, and that was that.

I have enjoyed this thread though. Good stuff. Many have said it and Rivermobster is trying hard to sell it... and I agree that all the original poster asked I think was best answered with buy newer shit because that older crap was just that. We made it work and had a blast because that was the top of the happy chain...back in the day.
 
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Gecko?

Baller.

😁

Been there 200 times min, stayed in wash 14...ONCE. Fuck that. I bowed out right about the time people started dropping their shit on a Wednesday and returning Friday.
For me with the Vetch closures, the check points, the permit stations that wouldn't work, Osborune ranger city, it was time to go desert.

Now its Ocotillo at Thanksgiving and some riding at the river and thats it. Now that my son has a Harley maybe his CR250 will fade away. Who knows.
 

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Yep. Or just go with the 400, and mod it up a bit. That will be your Best choice if it has to accommodate a beginner now and then.

The Suzuki or Kawai. Definitely not a Honda! 😁

She had a 250 years ago and it's wasn't enough. She said to buy whatever I want, but as much as I think it would be rad to have a really tricked out 250r or Banshee, I want something easy, turn key and fun for everyone.

Oh and BTW I have nothing against two strokes! 😀

 

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I still have a few of these quads mentioned,

350 Banshee, limited to what I can do due to the modifications, this is an all round bike with quick throttle response.
LT500 too heavy of a bike for me, it's a beast and we took this thing out to GORMAN and no would could even touch it.
400EX all around fun bike good power stock suspension not so great.
TRX450R best 4 stroke I own aside the Honda 70. I purchased this for my wife and its just has too much power for her. This bike has always been a worry fee, perfect for trails, dunes, and track.
 

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Been there 200 times min, stayed in wash 14...ONCE. Fuck that. I bowed out right about the time people started dropping their shit on a Wednesday and returning Friday.
For me with the Vetch closures, the check points, the permit stations that wouldn't work, Osborune ranger city, it was time to go desert.

Now its Ocotillo at Thanksgiving and some riding at the river and thats it. Now that my son has a Harley maybe his CR250 will fade away. Who knows.

Wash 22 is Minimum distance from all the insanity for me.

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Yep, we might be related, LOL.

All that shit was in play. The Alcohol bike overheated constantly and used 2x the fuel so I had to back pack everywhere.

I rode Bikes and Quads. Quads much easier especially when tired.

The group was changing into custom rails and I was not interested in financing a sole purpose car With a three rotor or Northstar as I was ready to start jeeping, and that was that.

I have enjoyed this thread though. Good stuff. Many have said it and Rivermobster is trying hard to sell it... and I agree that all the original poster asked I think was best answered with buy newer shit because that older crap was just that. We made it work and had a blast because that was the top of the happy chain...back in the day.
I’m still on the older is simple being that I do most of my own work so I prefer 2 strokes over 4.i have 2 550 skis and 2 dirt toys.

. I’m in process of making my cr500 street legal in az. Be nice to take to local store or spin around the neighborhood I mainly use buggy at glamis now.
 

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you know why you STILL see banshees out there? because for the sand.....its the best quad for that application.

light weight.
easy to work on.
still plenty of parts to be had.
moderately fast in stock form.
mild motor mods will get you an easy 75hp
sky is the limit if you want something that will rip your arms off.
people bitch about the handling. good shocks make a HUGE difference.
 
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