Las Vegas Grand Prix formula 1-official thread

[monkeyswrench]

The tunnels under Vegas streets are full of homeless?

Not this weekend

 

[bonesfab]

Should have left the homeless in the tunnels. Could have been like giant game of whack-a-mole. A road coarse with pop up hazards.

 

[Travmon]

Well that was kinda a CLUSTER FUK! This one may not shake out that great , fans are pissed that what they paid for in tickets 3-6 months ago are now 1/3 that ,fans getting kicked out of the stands over a shift change and unable to watch p2 after waiting hours of delays . Some major ass kissing from F1 needs to happen or ALL THOSE LAWYERS vegas houses are going to change their billboards to ( Got Fucked At Formula One , come see billy bob and associates to get right “.

 

[sirbob]

 

[Joker]

Any possibility to get a view from the front?

 

[boatpi]

Local news reporting it was water valve covers that was involved in The Ferrari incident so they shut the track down for hours probably went back in Welde or who knows what to 30 of the covers.

I’m sure more to follow on that but I woke up at 3 AM to the cars racing around the track.

since I had my share of premium tequila I was back out again 15 seconds later only to learn they started resuming the practice at 3 AM to make up for the last time.

 

[ChumpChange]

since I had my share of premium tequila I was back out again 15 seconds later only to learn they started resuming the practice at 3 AM to make up for the last time.

Jose Cuervo…Noted.

 

[boatpi]

The streets are close getting ready for night two practice.

 

[boatpi]

ESPN live now via Sky Sports Europe.

 

[cofooter]

Nice view, looks like a great spot!! We're here as well but just passing through for the night, look forward to hearing the practice later tonight

 

[Albert]

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Looks empty

 

[Albert]

I hear the prices of the rooms dropped to like $250 a night as well

 

[shintoooo]

Casinos are packed tonight. A lot of people here. Either way, I think this is a great event for the city. Go big or go home. This is the first year. It’s only going to get better from here on. A lot of people putting in a lot of hours and hard work. I’m cheering for them.

 

[Albert]

I hope it does well good revenue for the city .

 

[poncho]

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If that was a race the gray pants took first

 

[boatpi]

 

[Havasu blue label]

great event and parties

 

[sirbob]

Ok, night 2 - let’s see if we can see some cars running !!!

Dinner tonight - I’ll start with swordfish and then move to the filet!

 

[The Prisoner]

The tunnels under Vegas streets are full of homeless?

Shine A Light works to pull homeless from primal lifestyle

What drives the homeless into living in the tunnels of Las Vegas? What pulls them out? Robert Banghart has some of the answers. Not all, just some. In the past seven months, his crew of volunteers …

www.8newsnow.com

 

[poncho]

Casinos are packed tonight. A lot of people here. Either way, I think this is a great event for the city. Go big or go home. This is the first year. It’s only going to get better from here on. A lot of people putting in a lot of hours and hard work. I’m cheering for them.

I don't see how it can't be successful with that venue, they will learn a lot from this first go around.
They need to shake the price gouging rep for sure.

 

[Dunerking]

Is there a chance of finding a room with a balcony/view of the race?

 

[sirbob]

 

[sirbob]

 

[LuauLounge]

Didn't take long for the attorneys to get involved.

F1 Las Vegas Grand Prix hit with class action lawsuit

A class action lawsuit was filed Friday against the Formula One Las Vegas Grand Prix, tied to fans being removed from Thursday’s practice session before a delayed practice round resumed.

www.reviewjournal.com

 

[Singleton]

Didn't take long for the attorneys to get involved.

F1 Las Vegas Grand Prix hit with class action lawsuit

A class action lawsuit was filed Friday against the Formula One Las Vegas Grand Prix, tied to fans being removed from Thursday’s practice session before a delayed practice round resumed.

www.reviewjournal.com

That will get tossed quickly. The fine print on the Tickets should cover F1

 

[HCP3]

Didn't take long for the attorneys to get involved.

F1 Las Vegas Grand Prix hit with class action lawsuit

A class action lawsuit was filed Friday against the Formula One Las Vegas Grand Prix, tied to fans being removed from Thursday’s practice session before a delayed practice round resumed.

www.reviewjournal.com

@Travmon called it.

 

[185EZ]

I only see pics of food, booze, and women.
Carry on

 

[spectras only]

Other than the near 200mph cornering speeds by these guys, I think, some drivers might find the lack of more turns for a 6km long track, be boring. I assume there's absolutely no elevation changes as well. Monte Carlo, Monza, Spa have some real dificult spots to navigate, compared to this track. I think a purpose built track at the edge of sin city would still bring people there.
Must add, between the corner walls and the wheels having the distance of 2mm is sure a pucker factor.

 

[rrrr]

It's pretty damn incredible the contractor and inspectors didn't remove the valve operator cover and fill the void when the Las Vegas track was under construction. It was on a straight section of track, and it appears speeds on that section are in the 180 MPH range. F1 cars are producing over 4,000 lbs of downforce at those velocities. Manhole covers on street tracks are always welded to the frame or mechanically secured, this smaller cover should have been too.

Sainz's Ferrari sucked the cover out of its receptacle and into the bottom of the chassis. The battery and MGU-K are located in the area that produced the explosion and shower of sparks. It's obvious from the violence of the ejecta that the object punctured the skid plate and tub bottom, then destroyed those electrical components, causing the huge flash and arcing. The tub, engine, battery, and MGU-K had to be replaced.

The negligence in failing to secure the cover could have been tragic. The heavy metal part that damaged Sainz's Ferrari was also struck by the Alpine of Esteban Ocon, necessitating the replacement of that chassis too. The initial impact by Sainz or the secondary collision by Ocon could have caused the cover to become airborne and strike another car, or propelled it into the stands.

Things happen in racing that reveal unheeded safety issues. In 2009, Henry Surtees, teenage son of F1 and Grand Prix motorcycle world champion and legend John Surtees, was killed when a loose tire struck him in the helmet during an F2 race. In 2015, IndyCar driver Justin Wilson was killed when a piece of crash debris struck him in the helmet during a race at Pocono. As a result, IndyCar mandated the use of the aeroscreen, which covers the front of the cockpit with clear ballistic acrylic. Formula 1 had introduced its cockpit protection, the halo, a year earlier.

The carbon fiber halo on the front of the cockpit is meant to deflect objects that could hit the driver, but because of the size of the cover and the openings in the halo, it appears that the valve access cover could have entered a cockpit and hit a driver. This almost certainly would have been fatal.

The halo:

A utility water valve operator access cover. Those covers are cast iron, about 8" in diameter, and weigh over ten pounds.

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

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Is that top helmet pic the actual size of an F1 driver’s ego?

 

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[SHOCKtheMONKEY]

So my wife left Vegas Thursday morning. She mentioned later that night that she shared an elevator down in the morning with a guy wearing a Ferrari jacket. She asked him if he was here for the race, he replied he wasn't racing today. He asked her if she was leaving, she said yes, my business is done. She wished him good weather for the race when they got off and said he was shaking hands as soon as they exited.

Fast forward to this morning she tells me she thinks she saw the guy on TV last night during practice 3, we had both kind of dosed on and off.
I pull up P3 on the DVR and she's like "That's the guy!"

Turns out it was Kevin Magnussen.

Lol

 

[JJ McClure]

Is that top helmet pic the actual size of an F1 driver’s ego?

No sir. Their egos are much larger.

 

[sirbob]

Going with the lobster tonight

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

Eww, the whole lobster? My dad had brit friends that would invite us to a lobster dinner, I'm thinking tails, maybe claws, but nope, I get the whole thing. So I figure its presentation, no one eats whats in the body. Yup they do. I quit going to those dinners, I had no appetite.

 

[spectras only]

It's pretty damn incredible the contractor and inspectors didn't remove the valve operator cover and fill the void when the Las Vegas track was under construction. It was on a straight section of track, and it appears speeds on that section are in the 180 MPH range. F1 cars are producing over 4,000 lbs of downforce at those velocities. Manhole covers on street tracks are always welded to the frame or mechanically secured, this smaller cover should have been too.

Sainz's Ferrari sucked the cover out of its receptacle and into the bottom of the chassis. The battery and MGU-K are located in the area that produced the explosion and shower of sparks. It's obvious from the violence of the ejecta that the object punctured the skid plate and tub bottom, then destroyed those electrical components, causing the huge flash and arcing. The tub, engine, battery, and MGU-K had to be replaced.

The negligence in failing to secure the cover could have been tragic. The heavy metal part that damaged Sainz's Ferrari was also struck by the Alpine of Esteban Ocon, necessitating the replacement of that chassis too. The initial impact by Sainz or the secondary collision by Ocon could have caused the cover to become airborne and strike another car, or propelled it into the stands.

Things happen in racing that reveal unheeded safety issues. In 2009, Henry Surtees, teenage son of F1 and Grand Prix motorcycle world champion and legend John Surtees, was killed when a loose tire struck him in the helmet during an F2 race. In 2015, IndyCar driver Justin Wilson was killed when a piece of crash debris struck him in the helmet during a race at Pocono. As a result, IndyCar mandated the use of the aeroscreen, which covers the front of the cockpit with clear ballistic acrylic. Formula 1 had introduced its cockpit protection, the halo, a year earlier.

The carbon fiber halo on the front of the cockpit is meant to deflect objects that could hit the driver, but because of the size of the cover and the openings in the halo, it appears that the valve access cover could have entered a cockpit and hit a driver. This almost certainly would have been fatal.

The halo:

A utility water valve operator access cover. Those covers are cast iron, about 8" in diameter, and weigh over ten pounds.

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Friend is the owner of Radical West here in the Okanagan. He's getting the new Radicals with those halos when some wants it. Some guys don't like it but I guess it's needed when once in the blue moon, someones' tire/wheel comes off right front of you.
Made a acrylic windshield for my Formula Ford, just to deflect tire debris flying to my face. So far only small pieces were hitting my full face helmet.

 

[Xtrmwakeboarder]

So my wife left Vegas Thursday morning. She mentioned later that night that she shared an elevator down in the morning with a guy wearing a Ferrari jacket. She asked him if he was here for the race, he replied he wasn't racing today. He asked her if she was leaving, she said yes, my business is done. She wished him good weather for the race when they got off and said he was shaking hands as soon as they exited.

Fast forward to this morning she tells me she thinks she saw the guy on TV last night during practice 3, we had both kind of dosed on and off.
I pull up P3 on the DVR and she's like "That's the guy!"

Turns out it was Kevin Magnussen.

Lol

Does he race for Ferrari now?

 

[spectras only]

Kevin Jan Magnussen is a Danish racing driver currently competing in Formula One for Haas F1 Team. He is the son of four-time Le Mans winner and former Formula One driver Jan Magnussen.
Ferrari engined VF-23

Haas VF-23

The Haas VF-23 is a race car built by Haas F1 Team competing in the 2023 Formula One World Championship. In December 2022, the car became the first of the 2023 models to pass FIA homologation.

 

[530RL]

It's pretty damn incredible the contractor and inspectors didn't remove the valve operator cover and fill the void when the Las Vegas track was under construction. It was on a straight section of track, and it appears speeds on that section are in the 180 MPH range. F1 cars are producing over 4,000 lbs of downforce at those velocities. Manhole covers on street tracks are always welded to the frame or mechanically secured, this smaller cover should have been too.

Sainz's Ferrari sucked the cover out of its receptacle and into the bottom of the chassis. The battery and MGU-K are located in the area that produced the explosion and shower of sparks. It's obvious from the violence of the ejecta that the object punctured the skid plate and tub bottom, then destroyed those electrical components, causing the huge flash and arcing. The tub, engine, battery, and MGU-K had to be replaced.

The negligence in failing to secure the cover could have been tragic. The heavy metal part that damaged Sainz's Ferrari was also struck by the Alpine of Esteban Ocon, necessitating the replacement of that chassis too. The initial impact by Sainz or the secondary collision by Ocon could have caused the cover to become airborne and strike another car, or propelled it into the stands.

Things happen in racing that reveal unheeded safety issues. In 2009, Henry Surtees, teenage son of F1 and Grand Prix motorcycle world champion and legend John Surtees, was killed when a loose tire struck him in the helmet during an F2 race. In 2015, IndyCar driver Justin Wilson was killed when a piece of crash debris struck him in the helmet during a race at Pocono. As a result, IndyCar mandated the use of the aeroscreen, which covers the front of the cockpit with clear ballistic acrylic. Formula 1 had introduced its cockpit protection, the halo, a year earlier.

The carbon fiber halo on the front of the cockpit is meant to deflect objects that could hit the driver, but because of the size of the cover and the openings in the halo, it appears that the valve access cover could have entered a cockpit and hit a driver. This almost certainly would have been fatal.

The halo:

A utility water valve operator access cover. Those covers are cast iron, about 8" in diameter, and weigh over ten pounds.

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Given the repeated history of covers coming off, they had allegedly secured all of them down either through a welding process or via concreting them
Down. In this case it is alleged that the concrete
process failed.

They will do a post mortem and I suspect they will improve the process. But given the history I suspect they had a plan, executed the plan and this was an unfortunate failure.

Most interesting is that when the stewards went to all teams to ask for a waiver to the penalty, one declined. Not surprising given the money at stake between those two teams fighting for the millions of difference between finishing second or third in the constructors championship.

This event is a large economic success for liberty and for F1. And this kerfuffle is very unfortunate especially for all that worked so hard to keep
Something like this from happening.

Edit: I just got a call from my neighbor who is involved in a team and at the race. He stated that the reports are that the base that the valve cover attaches to fractured. The cover was secure, but when the base fractured it came up with the cover attached.

 

[rrrr]

Does he race for Ferrari now?

He drives for Haas, and they use a Ferrari power unit. That's F1 speak for the engine and electric motor/generator/battery system.

 

[SHOCKtheMONKEY]

Does he race for Ferrari now?

Yep
What Quadruple R said.

 

[The Prisoner]

Going with the lobster tonight


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Damn it..lobster is my favorite food and I am jealous….you are going on the ignore button now

 

[The Prisoner]

It's pretty damn incredible the contractor and inspectors didn't remove the valve operator cover and fill the void when the Las Vegas track was under construction. It was on a straight section of track, and it appears speeds on that section are in the 180 MPH range. F1 cars are producing over 4,000 lbs of downforce at those velocities. Manhole covers on street tracks are always welded to the frame or mechanically secured, this smaller cover should have been too.

Sainz's Ferrari sucked the cover out of its receptacle and into the bottom of the chassis. The battery and MGU-K are located in the area that produced the explosion and shower of sparks. It's obvious from the violence of the ejecta that the object punctured the skid plate and tub bottom, then destroyed those electrical components, causing the huge flash and arcing. The tub, engine, battery, and MGU-K had to be replaced.

The negligence in failing to secure the cover could have been tragic. The heavy metal part that damaged Sainz's Ferrari was also struck by the Alpine of Esteban Ocon, necessitating the replacement of that chassis too. The initial impact by Sainz or the secondary collision by Ocon could have caused the cover to become airborne and strike another car, or propelled it into the stands.

Things happen in racing that reveal unheeded safety issues. In 2009, Henry Surtees, teenage son of F1 and Grand Prix motorcycle world champion and legend John Surtees, was killed when a loose tire struck him in the helmet during an F2 race. In 2015, IndyCar driver Justin Wilson was killed when a piece of crash debris struck him in the helmet during a race at Pocono. As a result, IndyCar mandated the use of the aeroscreen, which covers the front of the cockpit with clear ballistic acrylic. Formula 1 had introduced its cockpit protection, the halo, a year earlier.

The carbon fiber halo on the front of the cockpit is meant to deflect objects that could hit the driver, but because of the size of the cover and the openings in the halo, it appears that the valve access cover could have entered a cockpit and hit a driver. This almost certainly would have been fatal.

The halo:

A utility water valve operator access cover. Those covers are cast iron, about 8" in diameter, and weigh over ten pounds.

View attachment 1304305

I don’t know shit about F1 ….thanks for the info….followed NASCAR when Jeff Gordon and that whole timeline of racers were around but not really into it much anymore…also sucked when Darrel Waltrip stopped announcing. Used to live 5 minutes from Seekonk Speedway and was cool to see good racing and no names that became big later.

 

[SHOCKtheMONKEY]

I was just discussing this thread with my wife, and she just mentioned how nice he was. However, she said he looked really tired and was wondering if he was up partying all night.

 

[The Prisoner]

Damn. This race hasn’t started yet and the already want your money for next year.



November 18, 2023 - 3:04 pm
Despite this year’s edition getting off to a somewhat rocky start, the Las Vegas Grand Prix will return next year, with race weekend scheduled to take place Nov. 21-23, 2024.

Race officials announced the date and opened up ticket deposits ahead of Saturday’s inaugural Las Vegas Grand Prix .

There are three levels of ticket deposits being accepted to reserve tickets to next year’s race:

— General admission and grandstand: $250 per ticket

— Shared hospitality: $1,000 per ticket

— Private suites: $5,000 per suite

“A deposit secures your spot in line for the 2024 race and grant you priority access to another action-filled race week in Las Vegas,” race officials said in a news release.

The ticket deposits are non-refundable.

 

[Tom Slick]

Such BS that Carlos gets docked 10 spots for an issue that wasn’t his or Ferrari’s fault but rather F1’s fault.

 

[Tom Slick]

And now an oil down from a parade car

 

[The Prisoner]

Dumb question maybe but why is this starting at 10 at night?
just curious
actually 11 here
the rest if the country is in bed. It’s 7 am in Europe. Seem a weird time for mass viewing.

 

[Singleton]

Dumb question maybe but why is this starting at 10 at night?
just curious
actually 11 here

Prime viewing hours in the UK, Australia and Japan, F1 pulls little US viewership,

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Prime viewing hours in the UK, Australia and Japan, F1 pulls little US viewership,

They want the race under the Vegas lights that is the whole point of this thing.

The don’t run the race in Austin at these hours. It has little to do with viewing hours abroad.