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I wonder if both prosecution and defense were planning ahead as possibly using the idea of video tampering as grounds for mistrial or appeal?
 

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I'm not sure how much you have fallowed this since the beginning. But alot of the videos where livestreaming during the actual event and attack. You could actually dig it it up here in the dungeon. There is a pretty extensive thread on here from when this actually took place. And other video from many different angles. So unless all that were videoing conspired together to all edit their videos and photos the same way.. that is not plausible. JMO
I have only passively watched the trial. Just noticed they made a lot of noise about the enhancement of video but did not seem to have a great SME on the witness stand.
 

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I predict He walks on a misdemeanor gun charge with a minimal sentence and probation and Chicago and other cities will suffer the undeserved wrath of Antifa and BLM ....
I suspect you're correct on the verdict. I wonder if BLM and AntiFa will do anything since it was not racially motivated and it's getting cold and shitty in the windy city. Riots seem to be a summer activity historically.
 

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I suspect you're correct on the verdict. I wonder if BLM and AntiFa will do anything since it was not racially motivated and it's getting cold and shitty in the windy city. Riots seem to be a summer activity historically.

I'm going to say yes, we will see some uproar. It will not be in the names of the the ones shot by kyle. It will be presented as "injustice for the murder of the JACOB BLAKE peaceful protesters!"
 

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I believe if you have a 'File' wether it is a photo/video and it's not a 'link', you can edit/enhance anything.

IMO, that portion of the drone video where they are trying to say he raised/ pointed his gun prior to the shooting is a 'reach' at best.
I understand that I'm watching a 'screen through a screen' . . . but they've played it like 20+ times and the judge (last I saw) couldn't make it out 100%.
I believe the prosecutions is planning to use that as the main point in their final closing arguments.
I can just hear it now . . . "Members of the jury, please look and watch closely as Kyle Rittenhouse raises his gun and points it John Doe . . . he PROVOKED the attack and none of this would've happened if Kyle had not done this"!!!! . . . .

They wouldn't be pounding on the judge to allow this video if it wasn't a MAJOR component of their final arguments. If they had something bigger up their sleeve, I don't believe they'd be making such a big deal about it . . . . . but I could be wrong.

BTW, unless this was some high-tech government/ military drone used . . . most consumer drone cameras/ cell phone cameras are shit compared to a real camera with real lenses. They are fine for 'pictures' and video in their raw form . . . but once you start to 'crop-in', the quality begins to fall apart fast. Compound that with 'editing' and the results begin to look almost animated at some point. Some people are magicians at 'post processing', and I'm not talking about adding things that weren't there . . . I'm talking about enhancing what 'is' there . . . . there is no replacement for sensor size (gathers light) and big good quality glass on cameras . . . notice on the sidelines of major sporting events, those big white lenses alone run between $10K - $15K each . . . the camera bodies themselves run about $4K-$6K so you're upwards of $20K . . . I doubt much if any of the footage presented was taken with professional grade equipment.
 

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I suspect you're correct on the verdict. I wonder if BLM and AntiFa will do anything since it was not racially motivated and it's getting cold and shitty in the windy city. Riots seem to be a summer activity historically.
The weather has me very concerned that the Boyz in chitown will not capitalize on their near historic killing spree.
They’re very close to the 1996 gold standard.
Be a shame to give all that away...
 

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The Judges decision to not throw out the gun charge is grounds alone. Kyle in total compliance of the statute. Judge should have thrown it out. But will instruct jury on the law.
Plenty of Prosecution mistakes, deliberate or not.

In reference to cross of Kyle, re: Canoe Arm, Your gun was bigger than his gun. Waah. Big scary black rifle. Waahh. Pouty face.
Um. Yeah. Isn't 9mm bigger than a .223?

MSM, Libs, Left, radical left, and the Nation of Pussies are losing their minds over this trial. BLM vowing riots.
BLM. Bullshit Loser Movement. FJB
 

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If the judge declares MT with prejudice does that not in effect constitute an aquittal?
 

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Kyle, shot three men attacking him, killing two. The left labels him a murderer and horrible human...

Alec Baldwin shoots and kills one, wounds another, while filming. "Tragic accident".

Anyone of these actors would shit themselves if someone came up on them, swinging a skateboard, or trying to take the Starbucks from their hand.
 

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Pay per View I'd binge watch the living shit outta that show.
 

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Why is there 18 jurors but they then pick only12 to deliberate. I've never heard of this & even googled it but couldn't find it being a thing.

Closing arguments will be given for up to five hours on Monday and the jury of eight men and 10 women will be narrowed to 12 by a drawing of names, according to the judge.
 

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They started with 20. 12 Jurors, 8 Alternates. 2 Jurors were replaced by 2 of the Alternates. They have them all hear testimony so they all will be up to speed if called to replace one of the 12.
 
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Why is there 18 jurors but they then pick only12 to deliberate. I've never heard of this & even googled it but couldn't find it being a thing.

Closing arguments will be given for up to five hours on Monday and the jury of eight men and 10 women will be narrowed to 12 by a drawing of names, according to the judge.
Alternates, should there be an issue with a juror be it misconduct or sick or death, they don't have to redo to whole trial they just have to restart deliberations.
 

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I heard this youtube page has been shadow-banned . . . but check out this witness . . . I bet the prosecutors thought he was going to be an idiot by the way he talks . . . . thank god he has integrity.

 

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Alternates, should there be an issue with a juror be it misconduct or sick or death, they don't have to redo to whole trial they just have to restart deliberations.
Got it. Is this how it's done everywhere, having 18 jurors & then drawing for the 12 that actually make the decision?
 

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Got it. Is this how it's done everywhere, having 18 jurors & then drawing for the 12 that actually make the decision?
I don't think they usually have that many alternates. There were 4 alternates on the murder trial I served on. The alternates were deemed as the alternates before the start of the trial.
 

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I don't think they usually have that many alternates. There were 4 alternates on the murder trial I served on. The alternates were deemed as the alternates before the start of the trial.
Yup, that is pretty much how it works. I think they may have some wiggle room depending on the case and the estimated length of the trial in regards to how many alternates they have. But all the cases I've been involved with, there is at least two alternates there from the beginning.
 

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I heard this youtube page has been shadow-banned . . . but check out this witness . . . I bet the prosecutors thought he was going to be an idiot by the way he talks . . . . thank god he has integrity.

Many people correlate a speech impediment with lack of intelligence. The saying don't judge a book by it's cover sums it up very nicely.
 

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Many people correlate a speech impediment with lack of intelligence. The saying don't judge a book by it's cover sums it up very nicely.
Agreed . . . on that same youtube channel there is a longer 30 minute version of this . . . . by the end it was 100% clear that this dude is WAY smarter than 'FATLOCK the Prosecutor'. It's worth a watch.
 
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Many people correlate a speech impediment with lack of intelligence. The saying don't judge a book by it's cover sums it up very nicely.
That is what they said about Jao Xiden before the election as well. Still waiting to see some intelligence from him.
 
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I must have misunderstood, thinking if you are charged with Murder you sat in Jail until the Trial is over?
I think the difference is if you actually committed “murders” if or you were running for your life and only fired a weapon when there was no other alternative than “self defense”. 🤷‍♂️

This case should have never went to trial…period! Unfortunately the radical left wanted to make an example of this so called “White Supremist” who killed white folks, lol 😂
 

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i've been a tulsi advocate for acouple years now.........vet, and common sense
I would be also if she switched to Team Red. It is hard to understand why she is a registered Democrat when all her views are 180 degrees from what they stand for. There’s something wrong with this picture!!
 
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