Israel at war?

[clarence]

… I honestly don’t see how the Manson murders and the vibe of that time draws even close to a parallel to the protests of the attack on Israel…

The Manson murders ended the 'peace and love' 60s zeitgeist.

Charles Manson: The man who killed the 60s

Charles Manson, the notorious cult leader who directed his followers to commit a string of brutal murders, came to represent the worst excesses of a divided society spinning out of control, and a generation at war with its elders, writes Mark Bannerman.

www.abc.net.au

Manson: The cult leader whose murders ended Sixties peace and love

ABOVE all, Charles Manson longed to be famous. His first plan was to be a rock god “bigger than The Beatles”, then he fell back on the idea of being America’s supreme leader after an apocalyptic ra…

www.thesun.ie

Charles Manson: The Murderer Who Killed the Summer of Love

1934-2017

www.politico.com

For many, Charles Manson cult killings ended era of love

In summer 1969, a scruffy ex-convict with a magnetic hold on young women sent some of his disciples into the night to carry out a series of gruesome killings in Los Angeles. In so doing, Charles Manson became the leering face of evil on front pages across

abc3340.com

Hopefully, the Hamas attack (and its defense) will now end the 'woke' zeitgeist.

 

[Mandelon]

Some of these conspiracy ideas are pretty deep.

My take is that Iran didn't want the other Arab countries going through with normalizing relations with Israel, which has been a reality as several countries already have and more are on track to do so.

Iran gets Hamas to perform this attack thinking the Isreali government is asleep at the wheel. The administration (in Israel) is a bit dysfunctional lately. Maybe there were asleep, the perimeter patrols certainly weren't on the job.

Now the Israelis are jacked up like the US after Pearl Harbor or 9/11. They are hot to exact revenge and put a stop to Hamas. This will lead to exactly what Iran wanted....lots of dead Muslims and video showing what horrors the Jews have wrought. The other Arab countries will not wish to be friendly with Israel after all.

No other countries want the Palestinians. They cause violence and dissent wherever they go. Even the Muslim brothers in other countries are fine with them bottled up in Gaza.

The Bill Maher clip was great. The left is aligning itself with anti-gay, anti-women, anti-just about everything angry religious people? How does that make sense?

 

[JDKRXW]

No other countries want the Palestinians. They cause violence and dissent wherever they go. Even the Muslim brothers in other countries are fine with them bottled up in Gaza.

This is the biggest tell. Gaza has one land border ... and Egypt now has it locked solid - in both directions.
It's also being said Egypt was the first to warn the Israelies that something big was up in Gaza.

 

[hallett21]

… That would probably be Dan Rowan’s sons kid???…

Yep. Same name too

 

[regor]

Some of these conspiracy ideas are pretty deep.

My take is that Iran didn't want the other Arab countries going through with normalizing relations with Israel, which has been a reality as several countries already have and more are on track to do so.

Iran gets Hamas to perform this attack thinking the Isreali government is asleep at the wheel. The administration (in Israel) is a bit dysfunctional lately. Maybe there were asleep, the perimeter patrols certainly weren't on the job.

Now the Israelis are jacked up like the US after Pearl Harbor or 9/11. They are hot to exact revenge and put a stop to Hamas. This will lead to exactly what Iran wanted....lots of dead Muslims and video showing what horrors the Jews have wrought. The other Arab countries will not wish to be friendly with Israel after all.

No other countries want the Palestinians. They cause violence and dissent wherever they go. Even the Muslim brothers in other countries are fine with them bottled up in Gaza.

The Bill Maher clip was great. The left is aligning itself with anti-gay, anti-women, anti-just about everything angry religious people? How does that make sense?

I agree that was Iran's intentions, but I don't believe Israel's dysfunctionality was the reason for the lapse of awareness.

Eygpt and the U.S. warned them in the days leading up to it and the day prior, they allowed it in order to unleash their fury upon Gaza and suffice their pay masters in the money changing hemisphere.

 

[clarence]

The left is aligning itself with anti-gay, anti-women, anti-just about everything angry religious people? How does that make sense?

Intersectionality allows groups that base their identities on victimhood - that would otherwise be at odds with each other - to ally.

How do you get feminist and LGBT groups to ally with Islamists? Shared hostility to Jews.

 

[clarence]

I agree that was Iran's intentions, but I don't believe Israel's dysfunctionality was the reason for the lapse of awareness.

Eygpt and the U.S. warned them in the days leading up to it and the day prior, they allowed it in order to unleash their fury upon Gaza and suffice their pay masters in the money changing hemisphere.

Fuck off with that.

The relationship between Israel's intelligence and Netanyahu is much like that between the FBI/CIA and Trump. Their eye was off the ball.

(Not to mention intelligence is extraordinally difficult.)

To claim a conspiracy (an extraordinary claim) requires extraordinary proof. Where's yours?

And to argue they did it for pay (rather than defense) is definitionally antisemitic.

 

[Mandelon]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1713820443222917508

 

[regor]

Fuck off with that.

The relationship between Israel's intelligence and Netanyahu is much like that between the FBI/CIA and Trump. Their eye was off the ball.

(Not to mention intelligence is extraordinally difficult.)

To claim a conspiracy (an extraordinary claim) requires extraordinary proof. Where's yours?

And to argue they did it for pay (rather than defense) is definitionally antisemitic.

There is no question that Bibi's relationship with the Intelligence community is a bit cold and one could argue they withheld that info in order to make him look bad, but I don't buy for one second that there was lapse of that proportion for a second. NO WAY IN HELL, Egypt and the U.S. have come out at this point as alerting them.

And ah yes, the criticism of the Jews is antisemitic card has been played!!!

 

[clarence]

NO WAY IN HELL

1. Good tradecraft:

Hamas fooled Israel's advanced surveillance by doing all of its planning offline, retired US general says

Retired US Air Force Colonel Cedric Leighton said Hamas appeared to trick Israel by using couriers and meetings instead of phones and radios.

www.businessinsider.in

https://archive.ph/iEYGj

2. Incompetence:

The age of incompetence

How did Israel fail to see the Hamas attack coming? The same way the we failed to see 9/11 coming. There are far too many "not ready for prime time" players on our rosters.

martinhackworth.substack.com

3. Looking the wrong way:

Israel’s intelligence failure is a warning for America’s politicized agencies

Some people are calling it “Israel’s 9/11.” That makes sense, in that Hamas’ massacre was a totally unexpected massive terrorist attack with a huge body count of innocent people.

nypost.com

Yes, intelligence agencies work against their own governments

hotair.com

And ah yes, the criticism of the Jews is antisemitic card has been played!!!

"pay masters" and "money changing"?

 

[regor]

1. Good tradecraft:

Hamas fooled Israel's advanced surveillance by doing all of its planning offline, retired US general says

Retired US Air Force Colonel Cedric Leighton said Hamas appeared to trick Israel by using couriers and meetings instead of phones and radios.

www.businessinsider.in

https://archive.ph/iEYGj

2. Incompetence:

The age of incompetence

How did Israel fail to see the Hamas attack coming? The same way the we failed to see 9/11 coming. There are far too many "not ready for prime time" players on our rosters.

martinhackworth.substack.com

3. Looking the wrong way:

Israel’s intelligence failure is a warning for America’s politicized agencies

Some people are calling it “Israel’s 9/11.” That makes sense, in that Hamas’ massacre was a totally unexpected massive terrorist attack with a huge body count of innocent people.

nypost.com

Yes, intelligence agencies work against their own governments

hotair.com

"pay masters" and "money changing"?

One could argue incompetence and one could argue malfeasance, I just don't buy the incompetence and respect your right to defend it.

I'm a major skeptic of any government narrative and it started here.

As for the "pay masters" reference, I say the same thing about ANY war as they are ALL banker's wars. I'm not a fan of the Jekyll Island Cartel.

 

[Mandelon]

 

[clarence]

One could argue incompetence and one could argue malfeasance, I just don't buy the incompetence and respect your right to defend it.

The NYT article identifies a number of failures.

The first failure took root months before the attack, as Israeli security chiefs made incorrect assumptions about the extent of the threat that Hamas posed to Israel from Gaza.

• Failure by intelligence officers to monitor key communication channels used by Palestinian attackers;
• And a willingness to accept at face value assertions by Gazan military leaders, made on private channels that the Palestinians knew were being monitored by Israel, that they were not preparing for battle.

The next failure was operational.

• Overreliance on border surveillance equipment that was easily shut down by attackers, allowing them to raid military bases and slay soldiers in their beds

The second operational failure was the clustering of leaders from the army’s Gaza division in a single location along the border.

• Clustering of commanders in a single border base that was overrun in the opening phase of the incursion, preventing communication with the rest of the armed forces

Which one/s do you believe were deliberate?

 

[regor]

The NYT article identifies a number of failures.

The first failure took root months before the attack, as Israeli security chiefs made incorrect assumptions about the extent of the threat that Hamas posed to Israel from Gaza.

• Failure by intelligence officers to monitor key communication channels used by Palestinian attackers;
• And a willingness to accept at face value assertions by Gazan military leaders, made on private channels that the Palestinians knew were being monitored by Israel, that they were not preparing for battle.

The next failure was operational.

• Overreliance on border surveillance equipment that was easily shut down by attackers, allowing them to raid military bases and slay soldiers in their beds

The second operational failure was the clustering of leaders from the army’s Gaza division in a single location along the border.

• Clustering of commanders in a single border base that was overrun in the opening phase of the incursion, preventing communication with the rest of the armed forces

Which one/s do you believe were deliberate?

The NYT...........................the paper where Deep State Spooks go to leak their lies.

I'll let Elon answer this one for me.

I'm not saying I'm right, I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying I don't believe that the most surveilled area on EARTH fell for a bunch of camel jockeys on scooters and hang gliders.

 

[TPC]

Palestine puts away their weapons there’s peace.
Israel puts away their weapons there’s war.

 

[regor]

Palestine puts away their weapons there’s peace.
Israel puts away their weapons there’s war.

True, but not my border, not my problem.

This is my border. I have a problem with it and I expect my tax dollars to go to it.

 

[FROGMAN524]

This whole thing is just another reminder why the 2nd amendment is the most important of all amendments.

 

[regor]

"I Did It To Avenge Muslims!" - Belgium Issues Highest Terror Alert After Mass-Shooting In Brussels​

...fired several shots at pedestrians in central Brussels and shouted “Allahu Akbar,” before publishing a video message claiming he did it to avenge Muslims around the world

MON OCT 16, AT 1:15 PM


Opens borders to Muslims, shocked they are now screwed................................

 

[PlanB]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1713820443222917508

Fucking hadji with a thumb clamp over the gas tube of his AK and his buddy dropping the hammer on an empty chamber. They are only capable of attacking unarmed civilians because their fighting skills are severely lacking.

 

[angiebaby]

The NYT...........................the paper where Deep State Spooks go to leak their lies.

I'll let Elon answer this one for me.


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I'm not saying I'm right, I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying I don't believe that the most surveilled area on EARTH fell for a bunch of camel jockeys on scooters and hang gliders.

Well, at least he offered some sources. You offered nothing but your opinion.

 

[Luvnlife]

Palestine puts away their weapons there’s peace.
Israel puts away their weapons there’s war.

Correction if Israel puts down their weapons there is no Israel

 

[Luvnlife]

Fucking hadji with a thumb clamp over the gas tube of his AK and his buddy dropping the hammer on an empty chamber. They are only capable of attacking unarmed civilians because their fighting skills are severely lacking.

Yes they will be waxed

 

[PlanB]

Boating content:

 

[Willie B]

The Manson murders ended the 'peace and love' 60s zeitgeist.

Charles Manson: The man who killed the 60s

Charles Manson, the notorious cult leader who directed his followers to commit a string of brutal murders, came to represent the worst excesses of a divided society spinning out of control, and a generation at war with its elders, writes Mark Bannerman.

www.abc.net.au

Manson: The cult leader whose murders ended Sixties peace and love

ABOVE all, Charles Manson longed to be famous. His first plan was to be a rock god “bigger than The Beatles”, then he fell back on the idea of being America’s supreme leader after an apocalyptic ra…

www.thesun.ie

Charles Manson: The Murderer Who Killed the Summer of Love

1934-2017

www.politico.com

For many, Charles Manson cult killings ended era of love

In summer 1969, a scruffy ex-convict with a magnetic hold on young women sent some of his disciples into the night to carry out a series of gruesome killings in Los Angeles. In so doing, Charles Manson became the leering face of evil on front pages across

abc3340.com

Hopefully, the Hamas attack (and its defense) will now end the 'woke' zeitgeist.

I didn’t read much of those Manson blurbs… I will do that later, when I have more time …But I started thinking… Yes, things really did change… But that was not what put the nail in the coffin… the Kent state massacre’s… As I remember, it put the nail in the coffin… the National Guard, shooting the college kids… in truth, I’m gonna have to think about this some more…

 

[regor]

Well, at least he offered some sources. You offered nothing but your opinion.

The source is my brain, just like the source was when I told everyone here there was no such thing as a vaccine for a Coronavirus or when I said Russia, Russia, Russia was Deep State bull crap or when I said RINO’s are really two-faced Democrats.

It takes awhile for me to be proven, but I’m used to it.

 

[Xtrmwakeboarder]

and away we go….

Pentagon puts troops on notice to prepare to deploy to support Israel: reports

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has ordered a select number of U.S. troops to prepare to deploy in support of Israel, multiple outlets have reported. About 2,000 such troops were chosen this weekend to be ready to assist with advising and medical support, The Wall Street Journal first reported...

www.yahoo.com

 

[HTTP404]

Boating content:

What is the best prop for coastal defense?

 

[clarence]

The NYT...........................the paper where Deep State Spooks go to leak their lies.

Where's the lie in the article?

I'm not saying I'm right, I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying I don't believe that the most surveilled area on EARTH fell for a bunch of camel jockeys on scooters and hang gliders.

I'm saying the explanation offered is plausible. And pretty simple.

How plausible is your conspiracy theory?

How exactly do you imagine it worked?

Who learned of the attack? How did they? How many knew? How did they manage to keep it from being leaked? How did they ensure the attack wouldn't be thwarted? How did they convince others to make the errors of assumption and operations they did? Etc.

Seems complicated.

Occam's razor says we should prefer the simpler explanation.

(And if they were so supremely capable as to pull such a conspiracy off, why would they need to? Why wouldn't they just act against Hamas directly?)

 

[clarence]

The source is my brain, just like the source was when I told everyone here there was no such thing as a vaccine for a Coronavirus or when I said Russia, Russia, Russia was Deep State bull crap or when I said RINO’s are really two-faced Democrats.

It takes awhile for me to be proven, but I’m used to it.

Like the stock market has predicted nine out of the last five recessions? LOL

 

[clarence]

Several hours before the attack on October 7, the defense establishment identified unusual movement in the Gaza Strip, leading to a late-night phone call between senior officials, but the signs were largely dismissed.

Still, according to Hebrew-language media reports, Bar went to the agency’s headquarters and ordered a small team deployed to the Gaza border, anticipating a small-scale attack.

Shin Bet chief: We were unable to thwart Oct. 7 onslaught, responsibility is mine

* * *

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[monkeyswrench]

Several hours before the attack on October 7, the defense establishment identified unusual movement in the Gaza Strip, leading to a late-night phone call between senior officials, but the signs were largely dismissed.

Still, according to Hebrew-language media reports, Bar went to the agency’s headquarters and ordered a small team deployed to the Gaza border, anticipating a small-scale attack.

Shin Bet chief: We were unable to thwart Oct. 7 onslaught, responsibility is mine

* * *

www.timesofisrael.com

To your previous point, about the warning stuff being disabled, Hamas types posted videos showing them taking out cameras and stuff the day or night before. I'm assuming that partially blinded the response and such.

 

[Willie B]

I didn’t read much of those Manson blurbs… I will do that later, when I have more time …But I started thinking… Yes, things really did change… But that was not what put the nail in the coffin… the Kent state massacre’s… As I remember, it put the nail in the coffin… the National Guard, shooting the college kids… in truth, I’m gonna have to think about this some more…

… Let me end this with this… Had Manson been able to infiltrate our late 60s bunch… he would’ve been treated politely… And after his leaving, he would’ve been felt sorry for, as being a deranged mental case… and then laughed about for weeks… I can’t think of one of us, including the girls… And we had plenty of girls… Who would’ve bought into his bullshit???…
… I have had people ask me… Since Manson really at the time, didn’t know what to think about you…do you think he possibly had been planning to kill you because you nerffed him across a dance floor???.. I honestly don’t know… And it just never seemed worth thinking about???

 

[clarence]

To your previous point, about the warning stuff being disabled, Hamas types posted videos showing them taking out cameras and stuff the day or night before. I'm assuming that partially blinded the response and such.

Two of the officials said that the Israeli border surveillance system was almost entirely reliant on cameras, sensors and machine guns that are operated remotely.

Israeli commanders had grown overly confident in the system’s impregnability. They thought that the combination of remote surveillance and arms, barriers above ground and a subterranean wall to block Hamas from digging tunnels into Israel made mass infiltration unlikely, reducing the need for significant numbers of soldiers to be physically stationed along the border line itself.

With the system in place, the military started reducing the number of troops there, moving them to other areas of concern, including the West Bank, according to Israel Ziv, a retired major general who commanded ground forces in the south for many years, served as the head of the Israel Defense Forces’ Operations Division from 2003 to 2005 and was recently recruited into the reserves again because of the war.

“The thinning of the forces seemed reasonable because of the construction of the fence and the aura they created around it, as if it were invincible, that nothing would be able to pass it,” he said.

But the remote-control system had a vulnerability: It could also be destroyed remotely.

Hamas took advantage of that weakness by sending aerial drones to attack the cellular towers that transmitted signals to and from the surveillance system, according to the officials and also drone footage circulated by Hamas on Saturday and analyzed by The New York Times.

Without cellular signals, the system was useless. Soldiers stationed in control rooms behind the front lines did not receive alarms that the fence separating Gaza and Israel had been breached, and could not watch video showing them where the Hamas attackers were bulldozing the barricades. In addition, the barrier turned out to be easier to break through than Israeli officials had expected.

 

[regor]

Where's the lie in the article?



I'm saying the explanation offered is plausible. And pretty simple.

How plausible is your conspiracy theory?

How exactly do you imagine it worked?

Who learned of the attack? How did they? How many knew? How did they manage to keep it from being leaked? How did they ensure the attack wouldn't be thwarted? How did they convince others to make the errors of assumption and operations they did? Etc.

Seems complicated.

Occam's razor says we should prefer the simpler explanation.

(And if they were so supremely capable as to pull such a conspiracy off, why would they need to? Why wouldn't they just act against Hamas directly?)

Occam’s razor is definitely the bet here, but I never play the short odds of a media narrative and I believe that government’s use false flag operations to draw their populace’s to war.

J6 applies here, that was a government manipulated operation to draw the imbeciles of this nation to a conclusion.

People have a hard time grasping the possibility of events like this, I get it, but with enough time, the truth rises to the top, as it has throughout history.

As I said, I’m not buying the failed intelligence narrative from the gold standard of intelligence known as the IDF and Mossad.

 

[clarence]

Occam’s razor is definitely the bet here, but I never play the short odds of a media narrative and I believe that government’s use false flag operations to draw their populace’s to war.

J6 applies here, that was a government manipulated operation to draw the imbeciles of this nation to a conclusion.

People have a hard time grasping the possibility of events like this, I get it, but with enough time, the truth rises to the top, as it has throughout history.

As I said, I’m not buying the failed intelligence narrative from the gold standard of intelligence known as the IDF and Mossad.

But why believe this conspiracy?

There's nothing else to fret about?

The decline of the West isn't enough?

There's an actual conspiracy behind that: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=260

And the decline (and corruption of our elites) explains conspiracies like the Covid response, the Russian collusion, J6, RINOs, etc.

But not this (excepting the internal politics against Netanyahu diverting attention).

In this case there are identifiable and understandable errors made that account for the failure.

Unlike the Covid response, the Russian collusion, J6, RINOs, etc., you don't require malfeasance to explain what happened. The errors were sufficient themselves.

 

[TPC]

True, but not my border, not my problem.

This is my border. I have a problem with it and I expect my tax dollars to go to it.

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At the moment, US National Debt is supporting Israel. USA ran out of tax dollars long ago. It will take a 40% income tax on everyone forever to pay it back.

 

[Luvnlife]

and away we go….

Pentagon puts troops on notice to prepare to deploy to support Israel: reports

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has ordered a select number of U.S. troops to prepare to deploy in support of Israel, multiple outlets have reported. About 2,000 such troops were chosen this weekend to be ready to assist with advising and medical support, The Wall Street Journal first reported...

www.yahoo.com

Does Israel really need help taking out the garbage? It’s incredible the steady stream of military planes heading in and out out Tel Aviv from different countries.

 

[regor]

But why believe this conspiracy?

Because I believe the opposite of what the media parrots and I’ve seen this desperate playbook before.

The IDF and Mossad outsmarted by the goat herders? Yea, that didn’t happen.

 

[regor]

At the moment, US National Debt is supporting Israel. USA ran out of tax dollars long ago. It will take a 40% income tax on everyone forever to pay it back.

Has nothing to do with paying it back and EVERYTHING to do with avoiding a debt crisis. It’s too late for both, I know.

We’re broke and Israel’s gunna have to shakedown elsewhere.

 

[clarence]

The IDF and Mossad outsmarted by the goat herders? Yea, that didn’t happen.

Underestimating your opponent leads to intelligence failures, yeah.

The first failure took root months before the attack, as Israeli security chiefs made incorrect assumptions about the extent of the threat that Hamas posed to Israel from Gaza.

Hamas stayed out of two fights in the past year, allowing Palestinian Islamic Jihad, a smaller armed group in Gaza, to take on Israel alone. Last month, Hamas leadership also ended a period of rioting along the border, in an agreement brokered by Qatar, giving the impression that it was not looking for an escalation.

“Hamas is very, very restrained and understands the implications of further defiance,” said Tzachi Hanegbi, Israel’s national security adviser, in a radio interview six days before the assault.

When Israeli intelligence officials briefed senior security chiefs last week about the most urgent threats to the country’s defenses, they focused on the dangers posed by Lebanese militants along Israel’s northern border. The challenge posed by Hamas was barely mentioned.

Hamas is deterred, the briefers said, according to one of the security officials.

In calls monitored by Israeli intelligence agents, Hamas operatives who talked to one another also gave the sense that they sought to avoid another war with Israel so soon after a damaging two-week conflict in May 2021, according to two of the Israeli officials. Israeli intelligence, they said, is now looking into whether those calls were real or staged.

 

[Backlash]

So, let me get this straight.

We'll send thousands of troops and countless millions of dollars to foreign countries to support their causes, yet leave OUR borders unsecured and wide open for anyone and everyone to enter......

I just want to make sure I understand this correctly.

 

[Xtrmwakeboarder]

Does Israel really need help taking out the garbage? It’s incredible the steady stream of military planes heading in and out out Tel Aviv from different countries.

IMO no. They already have tons of our money and weapons. We shouldn’t be funding either war.

 

[Xtrmwakeboarder]

So, let me get this straight.

We'll send thousands of troops and countless millions of dollars to foreign countries to support their causes, yet leave OUR borders unsecured and wide open for anyone and everyone to enter......

I just want to make sure I understand this correctly.

Countless Billions…..with a B.

 

[regor]

Underestimating your opponent leads to intelligence failures, yeah.

The first failure took root months before the attack, as Israeli security chiefs made incorrect assumptions about the extent of the threat that Hamas posed to Israel from Gaza.

Hamas stayed out of two fights in the past year, allowing Palestinian Islamic Jihad, a smaller armed group in Gaza, to take on Israel alone. Last month, Hamas leadership also ended a period of rioting along the border, in an agreement brokered by Qatar, giving the impression that it was not looking for an escalation.

“Hamas is very, very restrained and understands the implications of further defiance,” said Tzachi Hanegbi, Israel’s national security adviser, in a radio interview six days before the assault.

When Israeli intelligence officials briefed senior security chiefs last week about the most urgent threats to the country’s defenses, they focused on the dangers posed by Lebanese militants along Israel’s northern border. The challenge posed by Hamas was barely mentioned.

Hamas is deterred, the briefers said, according to one of the security officials.

In calls monitored by Israeli intelligence agents, Hamas operatives who talked to one another also gave the sense that they sought to avoid another war with Israel so soon after a damaging two-week conflict in May 2021, according to two of the Israeli officials. Israeli intelligence, they said, is now looking into whether those calls were real or staged.

10 days after "Israel's 9/11" the intelligence agencies are sure spilling their guts?

GTFO

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1694182927658258732

It's called forming a narrative and is very similar to the build up narrative to the Iraq invasion, utilizing.........SADDAM HAS CHEMICAL WEAPON STOCKPILES!!!!!!

 

[4Waters]

So, let me get this straight.

We'll send thousands of troops and countless millions of dollars to foreign countries to support their causes, yet leave OUR borders unsecured and wide open for anyone and everyone to enter......

I just want to make sure I understand this correctly.

You got it

 

[regor]

Matter of time.....................and the goat bangers are pissed!!!!

Mass Protests Erupt In Arab Capitals As IDF Blames Errant Islamic Jihad Rocket For Hospital Massacre​

"Hard to see how Biden’s meeting with Arab leaders in Amman will take place after this."

TUE OCT 17, AT 1:10 PM

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714361927546122310

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714359225848152467

And Bibi is scrambling.........................

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714371254617022641

And Jordan has cancelled the meeting with Briben.

 

[Mandelon]

If Allah is so great, why does he allow the bombs to hit your buildings? Can he not stop them? Can he not smite the infidels down?

 

[Bigbore500r]

If Allah is so great, why does he allow the bombs to hit your buildings? Can he not stop them? Can he not smite the infidels down?

Aloha Snackbar works in mysterious ways

 

[regor]

Arab Leaders Refuse To Meet Biden, Jordan Trip Canceled, Protesters Surround US Embassy In Beirut​

Air Force One is wheels up at worst possible moment...

TUE OCT 17, AT 3:20 PM

 

[monkeyswrench]

If Allah is so great, why does he allow the bombs to hit your buildings? Can he not stop them? Can he not smite the infidels down?

Odd, but I think of this often. Not with "Allah" though...but with Christians that die by the hands of Muslims, or even good people that die at the hands of idiots. The seen in Forrest Gump, where Bubba is dying, and questioning faith.

But I have a pretty fukt up mind though...