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Doing pretty good. I definitely have my moments when I want to strangle fools though. Usually at the end of the day.
Dealing with surgery pain is sucking without my smokes. I just keep telling myself I've made it this long. Don't fuck it up. Can't say I quit if I cheat. Wife is super supportive. Promises more sexy time if I stay strong. 😏
Today's day 11.
Days will get easier and harder and easier and harder but will generally stay on an easier trend over time.
 

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Buddy and his wife are coming over tonight.
He comes over about once a week for garage beers and smokes. He's been cutting back for months. But vapes like it's his job. I have zero interest in the e cig crap so I should be good. Other than the drinking. Haven't really had much booze since I quit. 😕
It'll be a tough few hours because smoking is also a social act with friends. But tell yourself they'll be gone in a few hours, and you can go to bed tonight knowing you won another day.

That's all that matters.
 

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You are about past the physical addiction part. Another 2 weeks and you should be over the habit of smoking ( holding , associatiing, and the oral aspect)

It's all down hill from here on out!

The ex smokers are all rooting for ya.
 

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If Rd.com needs anything its more gummy advertisements
Apparently GUMMIES are the holy grail into the future......haha
Everything now seems to b a gummie..
Dr. Oz has a miracle gummie out now as well as a few others. I guess we're now going to gummie ourselves back to perfect health......
 

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You are about past the physical addiction part. Another 2 weeks and you should be over the habit of smoking ( holding , associatiing, and the oral aspect)

It's all down hill from here on out!

The ex smokers are all rooting for ya.
I want to reiterate that a Life Saver, toothpick, or similar item will help with the oral cravings. As I said above, I used them for literally three years, gradually reducing the numbers. I believe pouches are more difficult to quit than cigarettes because of their higher nicotine content, but that was my experience.

Do not start chewing gum or using patches. Everyone I know that did that eventually said something like "Eff it, it's still nicotine and I'm doing great so far, I'm just gonna smoke a cig or two and enjoy it, it won't hurt. "

The problem with gum or a patch is that it's easy to pop another piece or stick on another patch, then another. Pretty soon the nicotine content in the blood is higher than it ever was while smoking, and that level begins an even more intense physical and psychological addiction.

I keep posting in this thread. It's not because I am sucking in my gut and saying "I did it. Can you?" It's to provide my experiences and give support. You guys are in my thoughts, and I'm checking in because if I say something that gets you to bedtime, that's pretty much the best thing I've done that day.
 

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He knows I'm weak.
Super glue a tennis ball to his ass and tell this one to get the ball.
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Pull up your trunks, tighten your laces, and head back into the fray.
 

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You can work on your diet after you get past the hard part
 

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I did.
Made dinner for the family.
Cleaned the kitchen. Another quick Whiskey, a shower and I've made it through another day🙏
Kids are still talking to me🙏
Wife hasn't served me with divorce papers 😕.
The kids are 13 going on 14, teach em to cook!😎
 

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Oh, bummer. I was hopeful. We all have moments of weakness at times. It happens, move on. This does not define you. It's a reminder that we're all human. The addictive chemicals they put in those fukin things just for this very reason is maddening. Find a way to have this strengthen your resolve to get back in the doctagon for the next round. You got this. Next time you'll side step the right cross that got you here and come in with a throat punch to win the round and the battle.
 

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My dad needed a quadruple bypass when he was 47. He had rheumatic fever when he was a child that damaged hid mitral valve, At 35 they “cleaned” his valve.

When he discovered he needed the bypass at 47 he immediately stopped smoking. He had been a smoker since he was 15. When he went to see the doctor about the surgery the surgeon asked about his habits. When dad told him he had quit smoking the day before the surgeon told him he couldn’t quit until after the surgery because it would all be to much of a shock for his body. The surgery was scheduled for three days later. At the pre op appointment it was discovered he had an infected toenail and they delayed the surgery for a week to get the infection cleared up.

Every cigarette I watched my dad smoke in those several days gave him a look of disgust and defeat. It was sickening to me to see my father who had defeated so many foes have his ass beat by a fucking ridiculous habit that contributed to his condition.
They should have actually postponed his surgery for two weeks instead of one week since he had been on blood thinner for 12 years. This would have given him a week to take the blood thinner and then a week off of it and then surgery. Instead he was off the blood thinner for 2 weeks. The morning he was scheduled to have the surgery he was brushing his teeth and dropped dead. He had a blood clot go to his brain and kill him. The doctor admitted his mistake of leaving him off the blood thinner for too long.

Cigarettes didn’t kill my dad but they got to make him look foolish for his last week of life and certainly contributed to his decline in health.

Really hoping you are done and won‘t make your children watch you get beat by something so pathetic.

Work on that diet.

Enjoy life to the fullest.
 

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My apollogies EB if I mis-understood your exclamation. Seems maybe I did? I'll just sit by quitely reading along your journey. Plenty of other help and insightful peeps with direct experience to your challenge here.
Good luck sir and keep up the good fight. You got this.
 

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My apollogies EB if I mis-understood your exclamation. Seems maybe I did? I'll just sit by quitely reading along your journey. Plenty of other help and insightful peeps with direct experience to your challenge here.
Good luck sir and keep up the good fight. You got this.
I caught the meaning of the @endobear exclamation, it was frustration. I also noticed when he said the kids were still talking to him and he hadn't been served yet, he didn't mention the dog. I hope it's OK.

😁

But seriously, every day is a win.
 

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I caught the meaning of the @endobear exclamation, it was frustration. I also noticed when he said the kids were still talking to him and he hadn't been served yet, he didn't mention the dog. I hope it's OK.

😁

But seriously, every day is a win.
My mutz are all good. I had made a comment about them being pissed off because I'm not throwing ball as much for them and deleted it.
 

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My dad needed a quadruple bypass when he was 47. He had rheumatic fever when he was a child that damaged hid mitral valve, At 35 they “cleaned” his valve.

When he discovered he needed the bypass at 47 he immediately stopped smoking. He had been a smoker since he was 15. When he went to see the doctor about the surgery the surgeon asked about his habits. When dad told him he had quit smoking the day before the surgeon told him he couldn’t quit until after the surgery because it would all be to much of a shock for his body. The surgery was scheduled for three days later. At the pre op appointment it was discovered he had an infected toenail and they delayed the surgery for a week to get the infection cleared up.

Every cigarette I watched my dad smoke in those several days gave him a look of disgust and defeat. It was sickening to me to see my father who had defeated so many foes have his ass beat by a fucking ridiculous habit that contributed to his condition.
They should have actually postponed his surgery for two weeks instead of one week since he had been on blood thinner for 12 years. This would have given him a week to take the blood thinner and then a week off of it and then surgery. Instead he was off the blood thinner for 2 weeks. The morning he was scheduled to have the surgery he was brushing his teeth and dropped dead. He had a blood clot go to his brain and kill him. The doctor admitted his mistake of leaving him off the blood thinner for too long.

Cigarettes didn’t kill my dad but they got to make him look foolish for his last week of life and certainly contributed to his decline in health.

Really hoping you are done and won‘t make your children watch you get beat by something so pathetic.

Work on that diet.

Enjoy life to the fullest.
Wow. Thanks for sharing.
 

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My apollogies EB if I mis-understood your exclamation. Seems maybe I did? I'll just sit by quitely reading along your journey. Plenty of other help and insightful peeps with direct experience to your challenge here.
Good luck sir and keep up the good fight. You got this.
Still haven't cheated. Just having a moment. A few moments in a row actually.
Wearing on me being one handed.
9 more days until i get the stitches out and can use my hand again. Brace deal is driving me nuts 😒.
 
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Still haven't cheated. Just having a moment. A few moments in a row actually.
Wearing on me be one handed.
9 more days until i get the stitches out and can use my hand again. Brace deal is driving me nuts 😒.
I understand. Sux u got that goin on too.
Glad I was wrong and your still.powering thru.....
Back to silence here......
 

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I am happy you still haven’t smoked. Reading this later part of this thread it does sound like your losing your shit a bit.. I know I would be
 

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I am happy you still haven’t smoked. Reading this later part of this thread it does sound like your losing your shit a bit.. I know I would be
It's been pretty rough. I definitely have my moments that I'm seriously questioning whether it's really worth quitting. Then it passes.
The time between my episodes is getting longer.
Through the 90s and 2000s probably 90% of my friends, friends wifes, family and coworkers smoked. I can barely count on one hand the smokers now.
I'd get shit often. I'd tell them "nobody likes a quitter".
 

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It's been pretty rough. I definitely have my moments that I'm seriously questioning whether it's really worth quitting. Then it passes.
The time between my episodes is getting longer.
Through the 90s and 2000s probably 90% of my friends, friends wifes, family and coworkers smoked. I can barely count on one hand the smokers now.
I'd get shit often. I'd tell them "nobody likes a quitter".

Things have definitely changed over the last 10-20 years. Hell when I first moved to Havasu you could smoke in the bars Flying X etc.. Everyone smoked.. Now at events I look around and I'm the only guy.

Your thread is inspiring and I'd like to take another run at it.. per usual though I'm making the excuses, maybe after this, or maybe after that.
Those that don't know.. will never know.

I had a roommate when I was younger who was a drug addict that turned his life around. He told me once "You ever hear that saying where they say it's harder to quit smoking than heroin? Well let me tell you it's absolutely true."

RD
 

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By nature I'm a person that does not like to be told what to do or to be controlled. I'm on the edge of violence when I feeling that way. So for me my quilting tool was the fact that these assholes use chemicals in cigarettes to create addition, for me quitting was to say FU, you cannot control me. It worked! I wish you the best of luck in this journey, just know when you come out the other side of this your body and mind will thank you.
 

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Go find a children’s hospital that has a Critical Care Unit. Bring in toys or offer to entertain in some way. Volunteer if possible.
I can assure you that finding people with real problems will help you to be able to put your problems in perspective and hopefully give you an understanding between things you can control and things you can’t control.

My wife and I adopted and raised a special needs child from 6 months old. Bio mother was a junkie.
I don’t have a hard time discerning between the things I can and can’t control.

Do you guys want your children to smoke, knowingly and willfully poisoning themselves everyday?
What wouldn’t you do for your children? “Oh well I‘d do ANYTHING for my children”……..sure you would? Quit smoking.

Children of parents that smoke are 4 times more likely to start smoking themselves versus children of parents that don’t smoke.



Waste your breath all you want fellas your children watch what you do and hardly listen to what you say especially if you are a hypocrite………..
 

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Congratulations You can now tell people "I used to smoke" each day is a goal with a hurdle ..... a year from now you'll likely not even think about smoking except as something in your past BTW even after years and years I secretly wonder what a drag on one of those Kools might be like ?
 

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I used to chew tobacco. I always had a chew in, I could eat with a chew in. Thinking about it now grosses me out.

After using tobacco for a good 20 years, I decided to quit. I set a date, and it was four months out. The last chew would be on a plane ride home from a Texas hunting trip four months after I made the decision. I gave myself four months to get my mind right and to just wrap my brain around it. for me I knew that using the patch, gum, or vape would not work. I would end up chewing again. Long story short, it worked. I haven't had a chew in over five years. About once a year I'll still have a dream about chewing but after the first couple of months I was over it. After the first couple of months it was actually easy, I attribute that to getting my mind in the right place, and I think the "right place" is different for everyone. I still think about it when playing golf or after a really good Mexican meal.
 

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I used to chew tobacco. I always had a chew in, I could eat with a chew in. Thinking about it now grosses me out.

After using tobacco for a good 20 years, I decided to quit. I set a date, and it was four months out. The last chew would be on a plane ride home from a Texas hunting trip four months after I made the decision. I gave myself four months to get my mind right and to just wrap my brain around it. for me I knew that using the patch, gum, or vape would not work. I would end up chewing again. Long story short, it worked. I haven't had a chew in over five years. About once a year I'll still have a dream about chewing but after the first couple of months I was over it. After the first couple of months it was actually easy, I attribute that to getting my mind in the right place, and I think the "right place" is different for everyone. I still think about it when playing golf or after a really good Mexican meal.
I could chew Levi Garetts AND smoke at the same time 🤣
 

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I used to chew tobacco. I always had a chew in, I could eat with a chew in. Thinking about it now grosses me out.

After using tobacco for a good 20 years, I decided to quit. I set a date, and it was four months out. The last chew would be on a plane ride home from a Texas hunting trip four months after I made the decision. I gave myself four months to get my mind right and to just wrap my brain around it. for me I knew that using the patch, gum, or vape would not work. I would end up chewing again. Long story short, it worked. I haven't had a chew in over five years. About once a year I'll still have a dream about chewing but after the first couple of months I was over it. After the first couple of months it was actually easy, I attribute that to getting my mind in the right place, and I think the "right place" is different for everyone. I still think about it when playing golf or after a really good Mexican meal.
This is what worked for me. I decided six months in advance I was going to quit using tobacco, and every day I worked on that resolve.
 

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Things have definitely changed over the last 10-20 years. Hell when I first moved to Havasu you could smoke in the bars Flying X etc.. Everyone smoked.. Now at events I look around and I'm the only guy.

Your thread is inspiring and I'd like to take another run at it.. per usual though I'm making the excuses, maybe after this, or maybe after that.
Those that don't know.. will never know.

I had a roommate when I was younger who was a drug addict that turned his life around. He told me once "You ever hear that saying where they say it's harder to quit smoking than heroin? Well let me tell you it's absolutely true."

RD
Last weekend I went to the local jeep/ice races. Wandered the pits. Cruised all over. Didn't see but 2 old fat ladies smoking.
Weekend before that I was at my kids ski race and I only saw a hand full of smokers all day at the ski area. Definitely different times. And trust me. I was looking. Looking to stand next to someone and breath in that goodness.

My kids know I smoked. But I never smoked in front of them. Now. When I'm hanging out with them. Running them around. I'm not Joanseing or wondering/planning when I can sneak away for a smoke. I would get to be a prick at times dieing to sneak away for that smoke. I can't now.
So that stress is gone.

Was real bad the 1st week. My kids/wife would do something that pissed me off and I'd call them out on the spot. Be a total prick. Zero tolerance.
Used to step out for a smoke and calm down. Think about what I was gonna say and do. Nope. That's gone now.😠

I made a million excuses over the years to not quit. Never a good time. Pretty sure I picked one of the worst times of my life to quit. Some shit I knew was coming. Alot I didnt. I figured. Fuck it. Bring it on. Let's just get all the SUCK done at once.

I will say I'm enjoying more time with the kids outside with me.. without having to keep my smoking hidden. Drinking alot less. Beer is tough to have without a smoke. Driving my work van is going to be tough too. After Coffee wasn't bad.
 

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Funny.

I got home from the hospital Tuesday night....got in the truck the next morning to go pick up parts...couldn't hardly stand that stank. Parked it with with the windows down for a few days and drove the other truck. Today is 6 days without a smoke....the dogs nose ain't got shit on me at this point. lol

All it takes is willpower or doctors orders after a significant event.
Bet I can hold off longer than you...

Should we have bet?
 

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Was real bad the 1st week. My kids/wife would do something that pissed me off and I'd call them out on the spot. Be a total prick. Zero tolerance.
Used to step out for a smoke and calm down. Think about what I was gonna say and do. Nope. That's gone now.😠

I wish I had smoking to blame this on. I was a prick for several years into my family life. I am a OCD perfectionist. Made many things in life really miserable for my family. Took me several years to get rid of that. Even my children commented on the change in me at the time. I saw how terrible it made family time when I would expect to much.

Glad you were able to easily spot this and isolate it. Goes to show your character. Keep up the good work!
 
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