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lol remember saying this next June July Aug. Norco is hot but no way is it Phoenix hot. There’s a reason prices are dropping there and not Cali. I just had this conversation w a realtor yesterday. I’m looking for rental property in Avondale
I go back forth often for work. I like the dry heat in az. Yeh even working near beach in summer with humidity sweating like crazy in the morning when it’s only 70. Gets worse in ie when it’s 105 and humid.

But at home and it’s 95 it feels nice. Summer if I do any outside work at home though I try and get done by 11am on the hotter days.
 

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lol Hawaii is kind of wack to be honest. I would take tronconnes over Hawaii any day. There’s a ton more places to go and check out. My mom worked in Hawaii so we’ve been plenty. Waikiki is just like downtown La 😂😂 I wouldn’t be bragging about Honolulu

I was talking about weather, mate. what are you talking about?

SoCal is the land of wetsuits, outdoor propane heaters, and glass windbreaks for sea breeze facing balconies. Things you don't have or need in a tropical climate. SoCal rough cold and wet ocean is why so many of us have places in the desert for boating. You know... Like this very web site we're palavering on right now... River Dave's Place.

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I was talking about weather, mate. what are you talking about?

SoCal is the land of wetsuits, outdoor propane heaters, and glass windbreaks for sea breeze facing balconies. Things you don't have or need in a tropical climate. SoCal rough cold and wet ocean is why so many of us have places in the desert for boating. You know... Like this very web site we're palavering on right now... River Dave's Place.

-Peter
Socals climate has nothing to do with why we have a house in bhc lol. If I could bring lake mohave to Norco I would in a heart beat 😂😂😂 that’s funny
 
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I was talking about weather, mate. what are you talking about?

SoCal is the land of wetsuits, outdoor propane heaters, and glass windbreaks for sea breeze facing balconies. Things you don't have or need in a tropical climate. SoCal rough cold and wet ocean is why so many of us have places in the desert for boating. You know... Like this very web site we're palavering on right now... River Dave's Place.

-Peter

I think yore confusing SoCal with Seattle. 😂
 

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Socals climate has nothing to do with why we have a house in bhc lol. If I could bring lake mohave to Norco I would in a heart beat 😂😂😂 that’s funny
I feel we’re all overlooking the use of palavering in a post. 16 points and according to the search function the first time used on RDP.

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Socals climate has nothing to do with why we have a house in bhc lol. If I could bring lake mohave to Norco I would in a heart beat 😂😂😂 that’s funny
But then your right back home. 😁😁
 

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I was talking about weather, mate. what are you talking about?

SoCal is the land of wetsuits, outdoor propane heaters, and glass windbreaks for sea breeze facing balconies. Things you don't have or need in a tropical climate. SoCal rough cold and wet ocean is why so many of us have places in the desert for boating. You know... Like this very web site we're palavering on right now... River Dave's Place.

-Peter
Right with you. Grew up and then raised my family on Torrance. 68 and foggy gets old. Sure there are some nice days, but you always took a jacket on a beach bike ride in the summer. There is a reason the local paper is called “The Daily Breeze”
 

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I think yore confusing SoCal with Seattle. 😂

eh... have you ever been to SoCal? because if you're telling me I'm wrong, I'm forced to believe you know nothing about socal... because SoCal is littered wetsuits and outdoor heaters. at least the coastal part is. I guess I don't know as much about the inland areas. or are you jerking my chain because you know I'm right? I don't know you, so I can't tell if you're just having fun. apologies if you are just messing about and know I'm right.

-Peter
 
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Right with you. Grew up and then raised my family on Torrance. 68 and foggy gets old. Sure there are some nice days, but you always took a jacket on a beach bike ride in the summer. There is a reason the local paper is called “The Daily Breeze”
68 and foggy is fine for vigorous dry land stuff like motocross or sports or road racing. but it sucks... badly... for boating in cold wet rough ocean. a little surprised that there are boaters that have trouble wrapping their heads around this.

I've taken all our boats to the desert and just kept a little skiff to fish the kelp paddies on calm days. wetsuits are for surfing, and even at that, they are tiresome after a long time.

cheers...

-Peter
 

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68 and foggy is fine for vigorous dry land stuff like motocross or sports or road racing. but it sucks... badly... for boating in cold wet rough ocean. a little surprised that there are boaters that have trouble wrapping their heads around this.

I've taken all our boats to the desert and just kept a little skiff to fish the kelp paddies on calm days. wetsuits are for surfing, and even at that, they are tiresome after a long time.

cheers...

-Peter
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Just another freezing cold March in mission bay San Diego.
 

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68 and foggy is fine for vigorous dry land stuff like motocross or sports or road racing. but it sucks... badly... for boating in cold wet rough ocean. a little surprised that there are boaters that have trouble wrapping their heads around this.

I've taken all our boats to the desert and just kept a little skiff to fish the kelp paddies on calm days. wetsuits are for surfing, and even at that, they are tiresome after a long time.

cheers...

-Peter
I live in az but will take my stand up jetski to so cal when i go for worlk put a wetsuit on and hit the surf in oceanside.went in december was 55 degrees when we left the ramp.

the part that sucks is your first fall then its fine LOL
 

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Just another freezing cold March in mission bay San Diego.
she manned up to air and water temps in the 60's. good on her. and good on you... you're raising a tough kid. I keep a pair of Uggs and nice cozy sweat pants sweat shirt to warm up after days like that. but it gets tiresome after a while. people need a break. no wonder the flights from SoCal to Hawaii are always jammed full. ask me how I know.

in warm places you don't have to man up. it's already warm. and you don't need sweats and Uggs to break the chill after playing in the cold ocean.

-Peter
 
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she manned up to air and water temps in the 60's. good on her. and good on you... you're raising a tough kid. I keep a pair of Uggs and nice cozy sweat pants sweat shirt to warm up after days like that. but it gets tiresome after a while. people need a break. no wonder the flights from SoCal to Hawaii are always jammed full. ask me how I know.

in warm places you don't have to man up. it's already warm. and you don't need sweats and Uggs to break the chill after playing in the cold ocean.

-Peter
You should really start a I love Hawaii thread and stick to posting there.
 

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she manned up to air and water temps in the 60's. good on her. and good on you... you're raising a tough kid. I keep a pair of Uggs and nice cozy sweat pants sweat shirt to warm up after days like that. but it gets tiresome after a while. people need a break. no wonder the flights from SoCal to Hawaii are always jammed full. ask me how I know.

in warm places you don't have to man up. it's already warm. and you don't need sweats and Uggs to break the chill after playing in the cold ocean.

-Peter
One of the coldest I ever got surfing was about 2-1/2 hours into perfect Honolua Bay Maui in April wearing a 2 mil longsleeve Xcel shirt with only about 15 guys connecting from coconuts through keiki bowl. I've surfed and swam many other places I'd consider more warm and tropical such as the Maldives, Mentawais, Troncones/ Guerrero , Costa Rica etc , but Hawaii water is definitely too cold for me to trunk it year round. Living in wetsuit country at the beach in Cen Cal we did have our foggiest summer I can ever remember, but now the killer Fall and Winter Cali weather with offshore barrels is officially here.
 

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One of the coldest I ever got surfing was about 2-1/2 hours into perfect Honolua Bay Maui in April wearing a 2 mil longsleeve Xcel shirt with only about 15 guys connecting from coconuts through keiki bowl. I've surfed and swam many other places I'd consider more warm and tropical such as the Maldives, Mentawais, Troncones/ Guerrero , Costa Rica etc , but Hawaii water is definitely too cold for me to trunk it year round. Living in wetsuit country at the beach in Cen Cal we did have our foggiest summer I can ever remember, but now the killer Fall and Winter Cali weather with offshore barrels is officially here.
Troncones is pretty high on my list of where I’ll be spending my retired time
 

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Our family has a vacation home on north shore Kauai by Hanalei. The weather is definitely nice there, I like the daily short-lived rains. Waking up everyday in paradise is cool, but living there full-time? I dunno, not much to do except chill unless you're an avid outdoorsman.
 
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You should really start a I love Hawaii thread and stick to posting there.
nah. Hawai'i is just an example because TONS of Californians flock there. but the world is full of other warm places. south Florida in warm season, Caribbean, Bahamas, Indonesia, tahiti/French Polynesia, the whole north coast of Australia, the desert lakes in warm season, places where you don't find patio heaters in Costco because people wouldn't buy them. I'll give you one though... the desert in the winter is also waaay too cold for fun boating. when we are at our desert house, I go out every now and then to gather free firewood off the various beaches. but no way in hell we go swimming or boarding. and I'll throw you another... even Hawai'i water is on the margin of too cold. plenty of people wear 2mm gear there at times. the tell is pacific cyclones. the big warm south pacific cyclones always seem to die down to a whimper as they approach the islands because the coolish... though way way warmer than socal... water sucks all the life out of them.

remember how this whole discussion got started... small boating in warm air and water... where you don't need Uggs and sweatshirts. socal has almost everything going for it. we don't need to pretend it's tropical... doing so is... I dunno... kinda tryhard'ish. like taking Christmas pictures in swimsuits on the beach when it's 59 degrees, to send to your relatives or friends in Kansas.

no need to start a new thread. this whole place is riverdave's place... warm weather and water boating is the heart of the whole show here.

I've got no particular attachment to Hawai'i. no plans to buy property there or retire there. I've got two homes in socal that I will not be selling. I'm just grounded in reality. ...I see socal as it is.

-Peter
 

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Troncones is pretty high on my list of where I’ll be spending my retired time
Me and a couple buddies bought a lot North of the ranch in the little gated deal and are going to build a palapa/ indoor outdoor crash pad . One guy is one of my Mexican buddies from Cen Cal so we’ve done some pretty extensive re con exploring around the area / touristy and 3rd world outlying areas with our wives . Surfing and relaxing is my attraction to it, and my wife is down to go for a week every couple years but she isn’t really comfortable there long term. I have another buddy adding onto his existing place in Troncones with a pool etc and he is all in , but again he’s still a good surfer at 59 so that’s the main attraction. What are the things that make you guys want to spend big chunks of retirement time there ?
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Me and a couple buddies bought a lot North of the ranch in the little gated deal and are going to build a palapa/ indoor outdoor crash pad . One guy is one of my Mexican buddies from Cen Cal so we’ve done some pretty extensive re con exploring around the area / touristy and 3rd world outlying areas with our wives . Surfing and relaxing is my attraction to it, and my wife is down to go for a week every couple years but she isn’t really comfortable there long term. I have another buddy adding onto his existing place in Troncones with a pool etc and he is all in , but again he’s still a good surfer at 59 so that’s the main attraction. What are the things that make you guys want to spend big chunks of retirement time there ?
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We thinks it’s beautiful and our money seems to go a pretty long ways down there. I like to surf but I’ll be honest the rocks had me pretty scared. I don’t think we could live there full time but maybe a month or so out of the year and then rent the place out. We made a lot of friends with Americans that own rentals there. Dinner on the beach and turtles at Roberto’s pretty awesome and I think was under 100 bucks
 

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Another rainy, gloomy, cold November day in MDR. Kidding, 75, sunny, slight breeze. Not sure why all these people have their boats here, you can’t boat in the ocean unless it’s tropical.
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You’re using air temperature as your guideline for water activity? The water at Ocean Beach is 63degF right now. No wonder all those boats are in their slips and not being used. Mine would be too. But I like to swim or board when I go boating. And well 63 degrees… yikes.

Don’t forget you sweats and your uggs
 
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You’re using air temperature as your guideline for water activity? The water at Ocean Beach is 63degF right now. No wonder all those boats are in their slips and not being used. Mine would be too. But I like to swim or board when I go boating. And well 63 degrees… yikes.

Don’t forget you sweats and your uggs
You’re in your boat, not the water…. There were plenty of boats out.
 

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Troncones is pretty high on my list of where I’ll be spending my retired time
I thought Mexico was where we would spend a lot of time but then our kids got married and started talking about having families.

Changes your plans pretty quick.
 

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I thought Mexico was where we would spend a lot of time but then our kids got married and started talking about having families.

Changes your plans pretty quick.
I could see that for sure. Just like my dad is here everyday playing ball w the kids is like to be the same
 
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