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For the last eight years, roughly half the Country has had a visceral dislike for the President.

For the next eight years, roughly half the Country will have a visceral dislike for the President.

Another day, another dollar. :D

Actually, less than half this country will have a dislike for Trump as he also won the popular vote.
Just saying.......
 

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Actually, less than half this country will have a dislike for Trump as he also won the popular vote.
Just saying.......

I haven't looked at the latest numbers so you may be right. But consistent with your point, less that half the country had a dislike for Obama. :D
 

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Actually, less than half this country will have a dislike for Trump as he also won the popular vote.
Just saying.......

I haven't looked at the latest numbers so you may be right. But consistent with your point, less that half the country had a dislike for Obama. :D
Just looked and according to Google he's still shy by roughly 390,000 votes.
 

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Was wondering when all the absentee ballots and ballots from military or citizens overseas will get counted.
Yeah, it's close enough that all those could very easily change that.
 

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Any against the Electoral College: 1. Doesn't understand its purpose and the reality it's as relevant today as it was upon ratification into the constitution in 1788. 2. Does comprehend the proportional representation based on population distribution is the fairest system for a pluralistic society with different ideolologies spread out over diverse nation. 3. Condones tyranny of the popular vote and 4. Doesnt realize the US is not a democracy.

No nation in history has lived in a direct democracy.

A constitutional republic protects individual rights from mob rule.
 

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More proof the framers put some SERIOUS thought into the documents.

200 years later and still relevant?
 

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Our system was built with a system of various checks and balances. This is just another one doing exactly what it was meant to do.

Any against the Electoral College: 1. Doesn't understand its purpose and the reality it's as relevant today as it was upon ratification into the constitution in 1788. 2. Does comprehend the proportional representation based on population distribution is the fairest system for a pluralistic society with different ideolologies spread out over diverse nation. 3. Condones tyranny of the popular vote and 4. Doesnt realize the US is not a democracy.

No nation in history has lived in a direct democracy.

A constitutional republic protects individual rights from mob rule.
 

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Any against the Electoral College: 1. Doesn't understand its purpose and the reality it's as relevant today as it was upon ratification into the constitution in 1788. 2. Does comprehend the proportional representation based on population distribution is the fairest system for a pluralistic society with different ideolologies spread out over diverse nation. 3. Condones tyranny of the popular vote and 4. Doesnt realize the US is not a democracy.

No nation in history has lived in a direct democracy.

A constitutional republic protects individual rights from mob rule.
I will admit, I was one who thought the Electoral College had outlived it's usefullness. This election and the vote distribution has really opened my eyes to how it is good. Just looking at the map of who won which state shows you why it's a good thing.
 

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Our system is setup to protect the minority, from the majority.
If we taught Civics and studies basic US law in schools, the sheep would realize this.

Do they really think that 2/3rds of states will allow a vote on changing our constitutional law, let alone the 3/4ths of state legislatures required to ratifiy it?

Notgonnahappen.com
 

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So I wonder how a percentage based Electoral Vote in States like California would effect the outcome. We've all heard it on here how there is no sense in Repubs voting in Cali, but if the electoral votes were based on percentage of the overall population voters I'd bet this state would look a lot different come voting day.
 

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So I wonder how a percentage based Electoral Vote in States like California would effect the outcome. We've all heard it on here how there is no sense in Repubs voting in Cali, but if the electoral votes were based on percentage of the overall population voters I'd bet this state would look a lot different come voting day.

It would look something like this, with inland counties actually getting their votes count toward something.


WhatAmericaLooksLike-2012Election-ChrisHoward.jpg
 

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It would look something like this, with inland counties actually getting their votes count toward something.


WhatAmericaLooksLike-2012Election-ChrisHoward.jpg
I'd bet it would be slightly different just because in states like CA I'm sure there are a lot of people on both sides of the aisle that do not vote purely due to the fact that the states is always overwhelmingly blue.
 

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OMG this guy is hilarious

[video=youtube_https;GLG9g7BcjKs]https://youtu.be/GLG9g7BcjKs[/video]
 

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The fact that you would start a thread with this title is so perfectly demonstrative of the answer to your question that I don't know if I can do better than you have answering it.
But, I will give it a try..:D
Greg, you are out of touch with the history of the nation, you have become the poster child for the propaganda machine that is the education system, and you have been drinking the Socialist Progressive kool aid for as long as I can remember, creating a caricature of yourself that isn't flattering.
In short, not enough people want to destroy the fabric of the nation to push us over to Euro-Socialism. Too many people in the right places have decided to slam the E-brake on the slow march to evil.
The left-wing that resides on both coasts, even with a slight edge in the popular vote due to urban concentration of voters could not beat down the push of the people in moving the Electoral College. The system, if you stop and educate yourself about it, worked perfectly. Look at the Electoral map.
Living in a city did not give any vote a bigger weight than one cast in Billings, Montana.
The Political Elite has discovered, once again, the genius of the founders. It is a hard lesson, but I take you back to your fearless, feckless and now thoroughly rejected leader, whom I quote, "Elections have consequences."
Indeed.
While for the last 40 years or more those words have been easy, because the progressive machine, aided by the neocons for the past 30 of them, have always been able to keep the established order in place. Washington, DC and the beltway gang of the political class has always entrenched their claws in the trappings of power.
That ended last night.
Historical, dare I say it, revolutionary night.
It is never too late to learn, Grads. Set aside your anger and try to restrain your socialist soul and take a look at the real world.
And...perhaps you might even see why...or even understand it.
Maybe even embrace it.
Or not. If you cannot see the movement that is taking place in this country then you are just as out of touch as the Washington elite has been found to be. They are waking up asking the same question you have asked. The answer will be much easier, and at less costly for you to find than their arrogance, hatred and self serving nature will allow them to get away with.
You cannot imagine the pain, anger, and hatred welling up in DC this morning...but I can.
And I revel in it.
And history is about to repeat itself. Really cool to look back on some of these threads and see just how wrong all of the libs were including the never Trumpers. And then they double down on their mania with the Russia collusion BS. Some people never learn.
 
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