History vs reality an interesting rant

[RiverDave]

"Movies And The Real Old West"
The fast draw did not exist
Revolvers were not worn low slung
Revolvers were generally not fired from the hip
Fanning a revolver was unheard of
The buscadero holster wasn’t designed until the 1920s
Gunslinger and gunfighter are movie terms
Face downs in the street only happened a couple times
More men were killed with knives in barrooms than by firearms
Most cowboys on the range did not carry revolvers, most carried
rifles in saddle boots
Indians preferred to fight at night
Cavalry troopers did not wear yellow bandanas
There was no such military command as Forward Ho!
Most women wore dresses not jeans and rode horses side saddle
Chaps were only worn when herding cattle
There was no such title as Town Sheriff, Sherriff’s enforced laws in the entire county, towns were policed by Marshals
Indians did not attack a wagon train circle by riding in circles around it
Most western forts did not have walls
Army chevron’s were not worn on shirts
One piece red long underwear did not exist until after 1900
Mexican Bandidos did not wear bandoleers
String bowties are 20th century
Panel front shirts were not worn with one top corner unbuttoned and hanging down
Stage coaches did not carry a strongbox full of gold on every run, most holdups were made to rob the passengers
Most men did not carry revolvers all day, every day
The Winchester lever action rifle was “The gun that won the west” not the Colt revolver

 

[fishing fool]

I learn something new on rdp each and everyday.....

 

[H20 Toie]

Wtf
I feel violated

 

[Chili Palmer]

You mean The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly is not a documentary?

 

[TrollerDave]

That stuff may not be true, but it made for good movies.

 

[rivermobster]

I'm gonna have to consult Clint Eastwood about this list.

 

[TonyFanelli]

"Movies And The Real Old West"
The fast draw did not exist
Revolvers were not worn low slung
Revolvers were generally not fired from the hip
Fanning a revolver was unheard of
The buscadero holster wasn’t designed until the 1920s
Gunslinger and gunfighter are movie terms
Face downs in the street only happened a couple times
More men were killed with knives in barrooms than by firearms
Most cowboys on the range did not carry revolvers, most carried
rifles in saddle boots
Indians preferred to fight at night
Cavalry troopers did not wear yellow bandanas
There was no such military command as Forward Ho!
Most women wore dresses not jeans and rode horses side saddle
Chaps were only worn when herding cattle
There was no such title as Town Sheriff, Sherriff’s enforced laws in the entire county, towns were policed by Marshals
Indians did not attack a wagon train circle by riding in circles around it
Most western forts did not have walls
Army chevron’s were not worn on shirts
One piece red long underwear did not exist until after 1900
Mexican Bandidos did not wear bandoleers
String bowties are 20th century
Panel front shirts were not worn with one top corner unbuttoned and hanging down
Stage coaches did not carry a strongbox full of gold on every run, most holdups were made to rob the passengers
Most men did not carry revolvers all day, every day
The Winchester lever action rifle was “The gun that won the west” not the Colt revolver


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Awesome piece of factual history, I think the movie version is better IMO, and perhaps the movie version might work quite well in this day and age.

 

[stokerwhore]

I'm gonna have to consult Mel Brooks about this list.

fixed

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

I don’t think you can be allowed to post that until after Clint Eastwood is dead.

But yeah, you watch a lot of old westerns and you’d think murder was a regular and normal occurrence and guys just walked around shooting everyone they didn’t like.

 

[RiverDave]

I don’t think you can be allowed to post that until after Clint Eastwood is dead.

But yeah, you watch a lot of old westerns and you’d think murder was a regular and normal occurrence and guys just walked around shooting everyone they didn’t like.

Well they did... but apparently more with knives in the casinos and bars.. LOL

RD

 

[RichL]

Interesting

 

[Outdrive1]

I was gonna ask Wheeler if this is fake news or not. He was around before gun powder was invented.

 

[RiverDave]

I was gonna ask Wheeler if this is fake news or not. He was around before gun powder was invented.

Pretty sure he was around when they came up with indoor plumbing.. but I think gun powder actually came from China a few thousand years ago..

RD

 

[jetboatperformance]

There was no such military command as Forward Ho!......................... Really

 

[TonyFanelli]

There was no such military command as Forward Ho!......................... Really

Forward IT!!!

 

[Outdrive1]

Pretty sure he was around when they came up with indoor plumbing.. but I think gun powder actually came from China a few thousand years ago..

RD

You didn’t know he was Chinese?

 

[Bobby V]

Well they did... but apparently more with knives in the casinos and bars.. LOL

RD

Did they have to turn in their guns at the door before they could enter the bar / casino.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Ever holster an old "Navy 6" or any of the early 6 shooters? I'd leave them at home and carry a knife too

 

[clarence]

The Winchester lever action rifle was “The gun that won the west” not the Colt revolver

Winchester first used the slogan.

But it was the Colt revolver that actually won the West.

the colt revolver -- 7/30/15

 

[rivermobster]

You didn’t know he was Chinese?

He's only Chinese sometimes...

 

[Todd Mohr]

When they find a cure for cancer and thaw out John Wayne, he's gonna be pretty pissed off.

 

[Letsride22]

God created man, but Colonel Samuel Colt made them equal. (more or less).

 

[old rigger]

"Movies And The Real Old West"
The fast draw did not exist
Revolvers were not worn low slung
Revolvers were generally not fired from the hip
Fanning a revolver was unheard of
The buscadero holster wasn’t designed until the 1920s
Gunslinger and gunfighter are movie terms
Face downs in the street only happened a couple times
More men were killed with knives in barrooms than by firearms
Most cowboys on the range did not carry revolvers, most carried
rifles in saddle boots
Indians preferred to fight at night
Cavalry troopers did not wear yellow bandanas
There was no such military command as Forward Ho!
Most women wore dresses not jeans and rode horses side saddle
Chaps were only worn when herding cattle
There was no such title as Town Sheriff, Sherriff’s enforced laws in the entire county, towns were policed by Marshals
Indians did not attack a wagon train circle by riding in circles around it
Most western forts did not have walls
Army chevron’s were not worn on shirts
One piece red long underwear did not exist until after 1900
Mexican Bandidos did not wear bandoleers
String bowties are 20th century
Panel front shirts were not worn with one top corner unbuttoned and hanging down
Stage coaches did not carry a strongbox full of gold on every run, most holdups were made to rob the passengers
Most men did not carry revolvers all day, every day
The Winchester lever action rifle was “The gun that won the west” not the Colt revolver


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The most obvious thing that didn't exist in the old west, and this is wrong in the pic RD posted, there were no belts worn on trousers because the belt loop had not been invented until 1922. First used on Levis.
All the westerns we grew up watching, even to this day, got it wrong.

 

[hallett21]

Did they have to turn in their guns at the door before they could enter the bar / casino.

Not according to tombstone right? At least at first.

 

[TonyFanelli]

Had this ol' timer make me this holster for my Ruger Vaquero 45 about 20 years ago, I gave him the Morgan dollars and Buffalo nickels. Got the scrimshaw handle online somewhere, can't recall tho

 

[Outdrive1]

So there wasn’t shootout at the OK Corral? I’m so confused

 

[jetboatperformance]

Burst My Bubble My first memorable Birthday gift was Black stetson , Fringed Chaps, a low slung holster and a "Fanner Fifty" cap gun

 

[rivrrts429]

Did they have to turn in their guns at the door before they could enter the bar / casino.

No, they put a sticker on the storefront that said Gun Free Zone

 

[Nanu/Nanu]

So everything i learned in the town of tombstone is lies!? Its all lies!? What have i left to live for?

 

[Gelcoater]

So there wasn’t shootout at the OK Corral? I’m so confused

It was in an alley, behind the OK

 

[stephenkatsea]

Hell on Wheels, about the trans cont railway, and 1883 did a fair job of depicting the Wild West.

 

[Nanu/Nanu]

I believe chinks would have been more popular out here in Arizona not chaps. Hope i dont get cancelled

 

[2Driver]

Makes sense, pretty much in line with how Hollywood presents everything - wrong in the name of entertainment.

Growing up how many stereotypes were based off movies and tv shows. There wasn’t a way to fact check anything besides looking it up in World Book encyclopedia, however the internet just produced a new type of ignorance.

 

[Ultra...Good]

It was in an alley, behind the OK

and it was more of a hair pulling name calling slap tapping thing then a fight. they had tea afterward.

 

[Nanu/Nanu]

Will these facts help or hurt Alec Baldwin? too soon?

 

[Ultra...Good]

Makes sense, pretty much in line with how Hollywood presents everything - wrong in the name of entertainment.

Growing up how many stereotypes were based off movies and tv shows. There wasn’t a way to fact check anything besides looking it up in World Book encyclopedia.

 

[Outdrive1]

A future American president's deadly duel | Constitution Center

On this day in 1806, future President Andrew Jackson nearly died in a duel when he killed his opponent, a fellow plantation owner.

constitutioncenter.org

 

[callbob]

Wtf
I feel violated

But did you enjoy it?

 

[2Driver]

Awesome. Have to watch the whole thing, the ending is best.

 

[185EZ]

I'll never watch GRIT again
or John Wayne
or Marilyn Monroe

 

[Ultra...Good]

Awesome. Have to watch the whole thing, the ending is best.

knocked that smile right off her face!!!!!! "the word was ****, by the way"!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Sharky]

The Winchester lever action rifle was “The gun that won the west” not the Colt revolver

Model 1873 to be exact.

 

[motormonkey]

HAHA...One has to question your life choices if you look to movies and stories for factual info on history unless it states "true story".

 

[RiverDave]

Makes sense, pretty much in line with how Hollywood presents everything - wrong in the name of entertainment.

Growing up how many stereotypes were based off movies and tv shows. There wasn’t a way to fact check anything besides looking it up in World Book encyclopedia, however the internet just produced a new type of ignorance.

I remember when the internet first came out and started becoming popular. A friend of mine’s dad said “they will rewrite all history with that”. He wasn’t wrong.. now with agendas it is getting worse.

 

[jonnyd]

If you over think a western movie you will not enjoy watching it. I watch them when I just want to chill.

 

[jetboatperformance]

I'll never watch GRIT again
or John Wayne
or Marilyn Monroe
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Wait just a dad gum minute there Cowpoke , Them B00bies werent real ? , say it aint so

 

[C-Ya]

Just some trivia……..

The majority of all the Westerns you have seen in movies and television, were shot in the California Desert. The Mojave desert being at the top of the list.

I am sure some of you off roaders have seen movies and recognized the background.

 

[BTR]

Cowboys as well. Not to be confused with ranchers or farmers. They were the people that moved cattle from the open range to train depots to be taken to slaughter. They were around for only about 5 years before someone invented barb wire. Barb wire prevented theft of someone else’s cattle branded or not. Open range, fair game. The overwhelming majority of cowboys were black or Hispanic. Hollywood lied and still does.

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

The most obvious thing that didn't exist in the old west, and this is wrong in the pic RD posted, there were no belts worn on trousers because the belt loop had not been invented until 1922. First used on Levis.
All the westerns we grew up watching, even to this day, got

So was the holster and belt around the waist what held the pants up too if there was no actual belt on the pants themselves?

 

[Sportin' Wood]

History is a set of lies agreed upon.