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I don't think i'm off base to say - the fucking swamp encompasses WAY more than politics, and has gone on and so deeply entrenched, it WILL take bloodshed to ever straighten it out....
 

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I have paid whatever it takes to get the best doctors. And as long as we have the system we have, I will pay whatever it takes.

If you want to change the system, I get that and that is your right. But just understand what you are advocating is exactly what AOC and Bernie Sanders are advocating.

What I’m hearing from you I, I,I. “ Whatever it takes.” That’s great Mr. 530 let me speak with my colleagues and see if you got enough to cover whatever it takes. Gee I’m real sorry Mr. 530 but with the cost of pharmaceuticals here in America you haven’t got it covered. Now if the doctors and his colleagues were working in Mexico you might have it covered but they don’t .

The point is pharmaceuticals and the price disparity in America as opposed to other countries.
And no I’m not advocating for free health care.
When you purchase product and services do you like to pay two and three times more than everybody else pays simply because you make more money than they do, is that fair.
 

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I was on board until this line of pure bullshit.

They have not been able to find a cure for the common cold. Or any other covid type virus.

You are telling me they are going to announce a cure?

Fucking A...when is the cure for cancer and AIDS going to come out?

Anyone who has looked into the costs of making new "medicines" ultimately sees the truth, there is just too much money involved on an governmental level to cure anything.

I didn't only say CURE. Seriously dude, re-read my post. The Pharma companies are going full steam ahead to come up with viable therapies, vaccines, or possibly even a cure for Covid. If the Big Pharma companies weren't working on it, who would be? The government? Did you notice Trump's "operation warp speed" is being done by private industry and not the Government? I wonder why? You think that dipshit Fauci who has NEVER treated a Covid patient knows what to do?

You mentioned CANCER...do you know anything about cancer treatments? Only a few years ago, almost ANY cancer was a death sentence, today you can live through just about every type of cancer out there if you catch it early enough. In fact, did you know that Johns Hopkins is RAMPING DOWN some of it's oncology studies because they don't think cancer will be around much longer? Look it up! My father in law died 10 years ago of Melanoma, if he got that same cancer today, they could easily treat it and he'd still be alive. VIRTUALLY ALL OF IT THANKS TO private investors and the Pharma and life sciences field. You mentioned AIDS...did you know there is a drug out now that isolates the AIDS virus so you can just live with it? That's right, it works so well you can't even detect it in a blood test. How do you think Magic Johnson is still alive after 30 years? Again, thank you big pharma. The reason they do not have a vaccine for the common cold is it literally changes and mutates by the day and there is no way to get ahead of it....thats what our immune system is for. I'm not saying we have a perfect system, but it's the only system we currently have. There really are countless programs and rebates out there for people who can't afford the medications, you just have to look for them.
 

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You, Me Tommy, Phantom and Plankton need to sit down and have beers sometime 🇺🇲

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The Phantom

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I didn't only say CURE. Seriously dude, re-read my post. The Pharma companies are going full steam ahead to come up with viable therapies, vaccines, or possibly even a cure for Covid. If the Big Pharma companies weren't working on it, who would be? The government? Did you notice Trump's "operation warp speed" is being done by private industry and not the Government? I wonder why? You think that dipshit Fauci who has NEVER treated a Covid patient knows what to do?

You mentioned CANCER...do you know anything about cancer treatments? Only a few years ago, almost ANY cancer was a death sentence, today you can live through just about every type of cancer out there if you catch it early enough. In fact, did you know that Johns Hopkins is RAMPING DOWN some of it's oncology studies because they don't think cancer will be around much longer? Look it up! My father in law died 10 years ago of Melanoma, if he got that same cancer today, they could easily treat it and he'd still be alive. VIRTUALLY ALL OF IT THANKS TO private investors and the Pharma and life sciences field. You mentioned AIDS...did you know there is a drug out now that isolates the AIDS virus so you can just live with it? That's right, it works so well you can't even detect it in a blood test. How do you think Magic Johnson is still alive after 30 years? Again, thank you big pharma. The reason they do not have a vaccine for the common cold is it literally changes and mutates by the day and there is no way to get ahead of it....thats what our immune system is for. I'm not saying we have a perfect system, but it's the only system we currently have. There really are countless programs and rebates out there for people who can't afford the medications, you just have to look for them.

So you’re saying everything is cool as long as you have money to pay Big Phama. And if you have side effects they can sell you another drug to counter the side effects, if you have the money.
When death knocks at your door call Big Pharma.
They might cure you or they might kill you if not Big Pharma “who would be”? If you can’t afford the drugs contact... I can’t afford my drugs . Com
If you live long enough you might find some help.

You mention a cure for covid, Hydroxychloroquine, zinc, Azithromycin.
That’s about a $20.00 fix. Not exactly what Big Pharma had in mind.

Just say Big Pharma exists to make money and if they save some lives along the way it’s a win win.
 

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What I’m hearing from you I, I,I. “ Whatever it takes.” That’s great Mr. 530 let me speak with my colleagues and see if you got enough to cover whatever it takes. Gee I’m real sorry Mr. 530 but with the cost of pharmaceuticals here in America you haven’t got it covered. Now if the doctors and his colleagues were working in Mexico you might have it covered but they don’t .

The point is pharmaceuticals and the price disparity in America as opposed to other countries.
And no I’m not advocating for free health care.
When you purchase product and services do you like to pay two and three times more than everybody else pays simply because you make more money than they do, is that fair.


Your observation with respect to pharmaceuticals is the same issue for doctors, hospital facilities, medical procedures, medical equipment and everything else in America. The disparity exists for all healthcare in America as opposed to other countries.

If you support the government having the ability to control prices on drugs, why not all other health care? What’s the difference?

Why is your view that the government should control drug prices, not equally apply to all other medical services where disparities exist?

That is why I don’t support your view, I don’t think government control of healthcare, whether it be drugs or procedures, will lead to better outcomes. And once we agree to letting government control prices on drugs, we all know what the next steps will be, more and more government control and allocation of all healthcare.
 

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I for one don't want more gov. control, I just want injustices solved, and have the cops look the other way...
 

The Phantom

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Your observation with respect to pharmaceuticals is the same issue for doctors, hospital facilities, medical procedures, medical equipment and everything else in America. The disparity exists for all healthcare in America as opposed to other countries.

If you support the government having the ability to control prices on drugs, why not all other health care? What’s the difference?

Why is your view that the government should control drug prices, not equally apply to all other medical services where disparities exist?

That is why I don’t support your view, I don’t think government control of healthcare, whether it be drugs or procedures, will lead to better outcomes. And once we agree to letting government control prices on drugs, we all know what the next steps will be, more and more government control and allocation of all healthcare.


Where did I say government should control any prices?
 
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