Havasu - The Land of Opportunity

[Ultra912]

Doubt there will be a Costco coming to Havasu anytime soon.
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We have one in Victorville. We're only 140K and the city is 74 square miles. Spoke to store manager recently. He says the store averages almost a Million daily. 1.4M daily during the holidays. That's in store sales not online

 

[Bobbyv]

Having been here 22 years now and loving Havasu for the first 15 years or so, I am hear to say it has become a pain in the ass with traffic, it really has but having said that it does beat the hell out of living in So Cal !!!!!
All of the other opinions for the most part are true, but its TOO FUCKING CROWDED And it is expensive!!!!!!!!!

 

[76sanger]

Californians! Lol

 

[17 10 Flat]

You used to be able to do this. Bullhead gets a few charters from the midwest during snowbird season.
AA (AmericaWest) had flights from PHX and OC back in the days.
I had the joy of having AmericaWest as a client (back in my external audit days) - those segment never turned a profit.
The year they stopped the flights, not 1 flight to Havasu turned a profit. Back in the days, that was the key criteria for AmericaWest to pull out of a market.

Everyone says they want flights, yet no one used it when they did.

When still working, the Ford plane would drop us off at Havasu airport. Or we would fly commercial into Havasu. The airport would let us leave vehicles in the parking lot no charge keys at the Hertz desk. Next folks coming in just asked for them.

Sometimes family would visit and fly into Havasu. Very convenient.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

I enjoy the walking/bike paths on the island and the parks in the channel. They seem busy with all sorts of different people in the winter every time I'm out walking. I also enjoy Sara park. I think the city does a great job with managing them.

It's the desert, so it is easy for it to look shabby. The heat is hard on things so places get run down quickly.
It seems the whole place was built on a weak foundation of turning worthless land into a quick buck. I'm sure the marketing material in the late 60s was a sight to see. The roads make no sense to me since cars were big as whales when this place was built.

I agree with the comment on hotels. They are all shit. We stayed at the London Bridget resort one night and it is not much better than a motel.

I also agree with the comments about LHC knowing what it wants to be when it grows up. I don't think city leaders are thinking that far ahead.

It reminds me of seeing a bar with all the lights on. Make it work for the weekend crowd and grab money until the roof collapses.

Boomers split a candy bar three ways because it is in their nature. I would not call it a snowbird thing, because the Boomers are aging out. However, I don't see GenX doing the snowbird thing at the same level as the Boomers. Too feral for the structure and cadence of Bingo, Bunco, Card Match on the daily.

 

[Meaney77]

This thread is an interesting one….
There's a dynamic between the local NIMBYs (Not In My Back Yard), who cherish the small-town charm of Havasu, likely the reason they moved here, and the YIMBYs (Yes In My Back Yard) who visit and are pretty vocal about the changes they believe are necessary.

It's interesting to see viewpoints clash. Those who live in Havasu appreciate its current character and may resist changes that could change the small town and small-town feel. On the other hand, visitors see potential for growth and improvement, advocating for developments that they feel would enhance their experience.

It would be interesting if we all applied this mentality to the cities we live in. I imagine many of us would be just as protective of our hometowns and have a strong opinion of outsiders suggesting changes, much like giving the YIMBYs the middle finger.

 

[petie6464]

This is all laughable!

This is a Resort Town and now people wonder why or think it's broken because it doesn't have the same as a major city..

Retirement is and will continue to be the play here. Not only retirees of age but of ones that can financially early. Housing cost is rapidly squeezing the workers out of town.

The "Affordable Housing" drum is not only broken its non-existent and will never be, if you can't understand that and why. . Seek mental help.

What this town needs is less people thinking it needs to be something it's not.

If you're wanting a business here that's needed and profitable..

-Assisted Living.

 

[gqchris]

Until the housing stabilizes there, only ballers and retirees will even consider it except for a few outliers.

To put it in perspective, my Dad just bought a BRAND new home, outside San Tan Valley, 3 bed 2 bath etc, 260k. His mortgage is like 1600$ a month.

in Havasu, that gets you a mobile home maybe.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

This thread is an interesting one….
There's a dynamic between the local NIMBYs (Not In My Back Yard), who cherish the small-town charm of Havasu, likely the reason they moved here, and the YIMBYs (Yes In My Back Yard) who visit and are pretty vocal about the changes they believe are necessary.

It's interesting to see viewpoints clash. Those who live in Havasu appreciate its current character and may resist changes that could change the small town and small-town feel. On the other hand, visitors see potential for growth and improvement, advocating for developments that they feel would enhance their experience.

It would be interesting if we all applied this mentality to the cities we live in. I imagine many of us would be just as protective of our hometowns and have a strong opinion of outsiders suggesting changes, much like giving the YIMBYs the middle finger.

I like this point.

The other place we live is also a tourist destination smashed against a farming community. The difference is that it's only attractive to tourists July-Sept and it is way smaller, so you get to see this argument way out face to face. But it is exactly what you have pointed out.


FWIW the biggest attraction for us that has not been touched on is how easy we've made friends here in LHC, across multiple demographics and from multiple locations. Some are weekend warrior Californians who we love to tease, and some are Canadians, who we love to tease and some are from other states who we love to tease.

Angie summarized our wish-list well; No Interstate, Water, favorable weather, enough services to get by and an abundance out outdoor recreation choices.

 

[badgas]

I hope they never get a Costco or a Target.

You can buy all the same you need from Target at Walmart.

Costco ? Havasu is too small for a Costco and I hope it stays that way

 

[DILLIGAF]

This is like one of the winter time threads we see every year now....lol

I remember a guy told me that LHC was going to get a Nordstroms way back when....He was trying to run down my choice of picking BHC as the place I would rather be when I bought property there. I always preferred BHC over LHC. He said BHC was the IE and LHC was the OC......Told him DILLIGAF

So......whats the next winter time thread that will make an appearance

 

[RiverDave]

There is definitely lack of opportunity for kids growing up out there, but they need to be realistic and go start a life somewhere else. The number of people I see complaining on social media about the job market for young people is ridiculous. There are opportunities in the trades, but the job market is not that of a major metro area.

I don’t agree with this at all.. but that’s probably a different thread.

RD

 

[lbhsbz]

I don’t agree with this at all.. but that’s probably a different thread.

RD

Not everyone is cut out to be a business owner, which seems like the only way to really "make it" in Havasu and many other smaller communities. There aren't many executive positions or even office positions there where one would normally show up to work in a suit. I don't really see employees in the trades making $50/+ hour in places like Havasu, like they can down in LA...the owner makes money, but the worker bees?. Havasu doesn't have a financial district, for example. Are there any large-ish business that produce anything headquarted in Havasu?....I know about Sterilite, but I think that's more of just a factory. It doesn't make much sense to have a business like that in a place like Havasu....they tend to be closer to shipping ports, major highways, rail, and customer base.

I think the point is that Havasu will always be a service economy, with the exception of a few niche markets where location makes no difference.

 

[baja-chris]

Recently living here full time after having a vacation place here. Attracted by the boating, offroading, and central location for travels to Baja and Colorado. Retired which enables us to live where the job market is poor. Like to see a Sprouts or Trader Joes instead of the Safeway and medical care is not what it could be even for a town this size. Will probably need to go to a bigger city if we get to a point of wanting assisted living or develop medial issues that are beyond what we can deal with in Havasu.

Kids growing up and wanting to stay here probably need to get into the trades with an eye to self employment or developing a small trades business. I don't see significant industry ever developing here. Employee reasonable cost housing is something the city could help address, there is lots of space for it on the north end by the big box stores. There are always niches for entreprenurial people to build small businesses, even in Havasu.

We are surprised the town can't support commercial flights. Lived in Durango CO for a few years which is 1/3 the size of Havasu and there were daily flights to PHX and other places. I flew every 2-3 weeks and the flights were mostly full.

 

[angiebaby]

Do people still shop? That's sooo 2000's.
Even - your words, "high end" people do most of their shopping online.

I don't buy clothes online, or shoes. That's a challenge for those living here. There's Dillards, and now, come to think of it, it's ALWAYS empty. I always wonder how they stay in business.

I am just curious and totally serious. I am not a drinker, what is considered a legit liquor store? Many moons ago there was WineTime liquors, but it got tore down to build a business complex or something over on Lake Havasu Avenue. I think it’s where Anytime fitness is now.

A store that sells more than one kind of potato vodka, for starters. Several sizes of Kahlua. Local whiskeys and beer. Craft bourbons. Craft bitters and syrups. A variety of quality cherries and bloody mary garnishes. It doesn't have to be a BevMo. These images are from Bozeman (pop 50+K). I couldn't find any from ours in Polson, but it looks a lot similar. Notice in the first two images, there aren't any clear liquors. The vodka and gin is on another wall. Another will have all the liqueurs and mixes. Usually the local stuff is on display on several shorter columns in the center of the store. Small wine and beer selection because you can get that at the grocery store.

I bring Vodka and Gin from home to Havasu because I can't get what I like here.

Places like this

 

[GRANT@FUNCO]

I don't buy clothes online, or shoes. That's a challenge for those living here. There's Dillards, and now, come to think of it, it's ALWAYS empty. I always wonder how they stay in business.



A store that sells more than one kind of potato vodka, for starters. Several sizes of Kahlua. Local whiskeys and beer. Craft bourbons. Craft bitters and syrups. A variety of quality cherries and bloody mary garnishes. It doesn't have to be a BevMo. These images are from Bozeman (pop 50+K). I couldn't find any from ours in Polson, but it looks a lot similar. Notice in the first two images, there aren't any clear liquors. The vodka and gin is on another wall. Another will have all the liqueurs and mixes. Usually the local stuff is on display on several shorter columns in the center of the store. Small wine and beer selection because you can get that at the grocery store.

I bring Vodka and Gin from home to Havasu because I can't get what I like here.

Places like this

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Have you looked at Randy's Hilltop in Desert Hills ?

 

[angiebaby]

Also, there is no place to get quality food, back to the Trader Joes/Whole Foods argument. Getting any organic/pasture-raised dairy products is a challenge. Lucerne is absolutely terrible quality and I will go without if that's all there is. Factory-farmed cattle have significantly higher Omega-6 fatty acids which cause inflammation in the body. Pasture-raised cattle are higher in Omega-3s, so I look to purchase that kind of meat and dairy whenever possible. Can't find it here. Also, to go to a farmer's market, you have to go up to Mohave Valley. Yes, I'm a food nerd.

 

[86403]

50 years ago, LHC had 9000 residents, a diversified economy (tourism and manufacturing), an airport with scheduled air service and great schools. Not sure its maturation is much different than other small towns in the US.

Losing ASU LH was a huge loss. Very inexpensive way for a LH kid to get a college education.

 

[Sleek-Jet]

Recently living here full time after having a vacation place here. Attracted by the boating, offroading, and central location for travels to Baja and Colorado. Retired which enables us to live where the job market is poor. Like to see a Sprouts or Trader Joes instead of the Safeway and medical care is not what it could be even for a town this size. Will probably need to go to a bigger city if we get to a point of wanting assisted living or develop medial issues that are beyond what we can deal with in Havasu.

Kids growing up and wanting to stay here probably need to get into the trades with an eye to self employment or developing a small trades business. I don't see significant industry ever developing here. Employee reasonable cost housing is something the city could help address, there is lots of space for it on the north end by the big box stores. There are always niches for entreprenurial people to build small businesses, even in Havasu.

We are surprised the town can't support commercial flights. Lived in Durango CO for a few years which is 1/3 the size of Havasu and there were daily flights to PHX and other places. I flew every 2-3 weeks and the flights were mostly full.

Durango pulls airline passenger traffic from a very wide region... And at one time the City and ski resorts subsidized the service to the tune of several million dollars a year. I don't think that is the case anymore but that is what it took to build enough demand for the air carrier capacity you see today.

Also, economic downturns in Northwestern NM lead to the curtailment of flights into and out of the airport in that city. At one time Farmington has multiple jet flights per day. Durango was well positioned to pick up the slack when the air travel returned to the region.

I don't see Havasu being in the same situation, both based on population and geography, unless you can convince a group to start guaranteeing money to an airline to serve the area.

 

[530RL]

This thread is an interesting one….
There's a dynamic between the local NIMBYs (Not In My Back Yard), who cherish the small-town charm of Havasu, likely the reason they moved here, and the YIMBYs (Yes In My Back Yard) who visit and are pretty vocal about the changes they believe are necessary.

It's interesting to see viewpoints clash. Those who live in Havasu appreciate its current character and may resist changes that could change the small town and small-town feel. On the other hand, visitors see potential for growth and improvement, advocating for developments that they feel would enhance their experience.

It would be interesting if we all applied this mentality to the cities we live in. I imagine many of us would be just as protective of our hometowns and have a strong opinion of outsiders suggesting changes, much like giving the YIMBYs the middle finger.

Excellent point.

My business partner used to say how he could not believe they tore up the farms North of Indian School and Central Avenue in Phoenix........

 

[rrrr]

I wonder how the demographics have changed, and if it would now be more viable? Hell, our little podunk airport has flights to LA and Denver. I don't know if it's turning any profit though. It had only been a thing for the past 6 or 7 years though.

Prescott has commercial airline access because of the federal Essential Air Service program. Essential Air Service provides funding to airlines and small airports in designated cities that meet certain requirements.

Essential Air Service (EAS) is a U.S. government program enacted to guarantee that small communities in the United States, which had been served by certificated airlines prior to deregulation in 1978, maintain commercial service. Its aim is to maintain a minimal level of scheduled air service to these communities that otherwise would not be profitable. The program is codified at 49 U.S.C. §§ 41731–41748..

Essential Air Service - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[MooreMoney]

I am curious affordable condos/apartments has been brought up a couple times.. These investors that are doing storage units why wouldn't they migrate to apartment buildings in Havasu? I am sure you could get a good ROI if the demand is there. I think you can rent a cheap house for the same cost of a lake havasu apartment thus you dont see apartments being build.

 

[SOCALCRICKETT]

Also, there is no place to get quality food, back to the Trader Joes/Whole Foods argument. Getting any organic/pasture-raised dairy products is a challenge. Lucerne is absolutely terrible quality and I will go without if that's all there is. Factory-farmed cattle have significantly higher Omega-6 fatty acids which cause inflammation in the body. Pasture-raised cattle are higher in Omega-3s, so I look to purchase that kind of meat and dairy whenever possible. Can't find it here. Also, to go to a farmer's market, you have to go up to Mohave Valley. Yes, I'm a food nerd.

I need to get you talking to my wife, she was asking about legitimate farmers markets, that had never really been my thing, but she is a food need too

 

[Sleek-Jet]

Prescott has commercial airline access because of the federal Essential Air Service program. Essential Air Service provides funding to airlines and small airports in designated cities that meet certain requirements.

Essential Air Service (EAS) is a U.S. government program enacted to guarantee that small communities in the United States, which had been served by certificated airlines prior to deregulation in 1978, maintain commercial service. Its aim is to maintain a minimal level of scheduled air service to these communities that otherwise would not be profitable. The program is codified at 49 U.S.C. §§ 41731–41748..

Essential Air Service - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

I will be surprised if EAS survives the Trump administration. It has been on the chopping block before but managed to avoid the axe.

 

[530RL]

I am curious affordable condos/apartments has been brought up a couple times.. These investors that are doing storage units why wouldn't they migrate to apartment buildings in Havasu? I am sure you could get a good ROI if the demand is there. I think you can rent a cheap house for the same cost of a lake havasu apartment thus you dont see apartments being build.

It doesn’t pencil at the rents that can be paid versus the cost of land, entitlements and construction.

 

[EarpRider]

Also, there is no place to get quality food, back to the Trader Joes/Whole Foods argument. Getting any organic/pasture-raised dairy products is a challenge. Lucerne is absolutely terrible quality and I will go without if that's all there is. Factory-farmed cattle have significantly higher Omega-6 fatty acids which cause inflammation in the body. Pasture-raised cattle are higher in Omega-3s, so I look to purchase that kind of meat and dairy whenever possible. Can't find it here. Also, to go to a farmer's market, you have to go up to Mohave Valley. Yes, I'm a food nerd.

You sound like you'd fit in perfect in Orange County.

 

[27Daytona]

I had heard from a real estate investor years ago that towns that have a Costco coming are places to look into. Apparently Costco does a ton of research before building, rumor has it (heard it twice in the past 2 weeks) that Costco is looking heavy into opening a store here in town

I doubt that. Costco doesn’t open stores in areas with a population below 100K. I’m ok with not having another mega corporation store in town. I don’t want Havasu to turn into SoCal for a reason!!!

 

[27Daytona]

It doesn’t pencil at the rents that can be paid versus the cost of land, entitlements and construction.

Right! Storage Units have a much higher ROI than Apartments. Plus you don’t have to deal with apartment tenants drama, lol

 

[hallett21]

You sound like you'd fit in perfect in Orange County.

lol asking for quality food is a bad thing?

Small towns should be eating better than Metro areas. Typically they are much closer to where food is grown.

 

[Havasu blue label]

I don't buy clothes online, or shoes. That's a challenge for those living here. There's Dillards, and now, come to think of it, it's ALWAYS empty. I always wonder how they stay in business.



A store that sells more than one kind of potato vodka, for starters. Several sizes of Kahlua. Local whiskeys and beer. Craft bourbons. Craft bitters and syrups. A variety of quality cherries and bloody mary garnishes. It doesn't have to be a BevMo. These images are from Bozeman (pop 50+K). I couldn't find any from ours in Polson, but it looks a lot similar. Notice in the first two images, there aren't any clear liquors. The vodka and gin is on another wall. Another will have all the liqueurs and mixes. Usually the local stuff is on display on several shorter columns in the center of the store. Small wine and beer selection because you can get that at the grocery store.

I bring Vodka and Gin from home to Havasu because I can't get what I like here.

Places like this

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What vodka is your go to

 

[Englewood]

I doubt that. Costco doesn’t open stores in areas with a population below 100K. I’m ok with not having another mega corporation store in town. I don’t want Havasu to turn into SoCal for a reason!!!

I agree...People need to stop trying to turn Havasu into SoCal. I personally like Havasu like it is. It's a resort/vacation/retirement town in the middle of the desert with no highway running through, no commercial flights, etc.

The last thing I'd want is a Costco or Trader Joes. As mentioned earlier...COSTCO IS NOT COMING TO HAVASU. That is direct from the source who is involved in these decisions.

 

[was thatguy]

What vodka is your go to

Omega 3 vodka…

 

[PlanB]

Not everyone is cut out to be a business owner, which seems like the only way to really "make it" in Havasu and many other smaller communities. There aren't many executive positions or even office positions there where one would normally show up to work in a suit. I don't really see employees in the trades making $50/+ hour in places like Havasu, like they can down in LA...the owner makes money, but the worker bees?. Havasu doesn't have a financial district, for example. Are there any large-ish business that produce anything headquarted in Havasu?....I know about Sterilite, but I think that's more of just a factory. It doesn't make much sense to have a business like that in a place like Havasu....they tend to be closer to shipping ports, major highways, rail, and customer base.

I think the point is that Havasu will always be a service economy, with the exception of a few niche markets where location makes no difference.

Yep, exactly the point I was trying to make. When I was a young cop in SoCal I looked at LE jobs in Havasu after we bought our house there. I thought it might be a good move. Well, the pay for cops and firefighters was absolute crap. I stand by my statement that opportunities are limited out there.

 

[SOCALCRICKETT]

Yep, exactly the point I was trying to make. When I was a young cop in SoCal I looked at LE jobs in Havasu after we bought our house there. I thought it might be a good move. Well, the pay for cops and firefighters was absolute crap. I stand by my statement that opportunities are limited out there.

Yep, that's why I work out of blythe and live in havasu.

For me to transfer to a department in town it would be a pay cut

 

[PlanB]

Yep, that's why I work out of blythe and live in havasu.

For me to transfer to a department in town it would be a pay cut

That's the way to go .

 

[riverroyal]

Havasu needs a 'political pub'. So all the locals can sit and talk politics all day. Instead of bringing it up when its not even in the conversation to begin with.
All politics. TVs with all the news channels at once. One of those punching bags games and a few whack-a-moles. Even Bud Light on draft to keep that conversation going.
Axe throwing with Joe and Kama faces on the targets. Only Caucasian comfort food, so anything in a crock pot.
Open at 7am, for old guys that cant sleep in. Close at 8pm, no reason to stay open later.

 

[rivermobster]

What non tweaker towns are cheaper to live in than Havasu?
And what? Rent? Groceries? Gas?

You're joking, right?

Either that, or you need to get out and explore more often.

In case you hadn't noticed...

Havasu City has been tweaker town for ages.

Someone needs to find the thread about the village out past the airport?

Scary shit!!!

 

[hallett21]

You're joking, right?

Either that, or you need to get out and explore more often.

In case you hadn't noticed...

Havasu City has been tweaker town for ages.

Someone needs to find the thread about the village out past the airport?

Scary shit!!!

I don’t think a lot of people realize there’s a Lake Havasu and Havasu Lake lol

 

[angiebaby]

You sound like you'd fit in perfect in Orange County.

LOL, not on your life. I get all of that in our little town of 6K people in Montana. Liquor store too!

What vodka is your go to

44° North, Blue Ice (less expensive but made at the same place-phenomenal quality for the price ROC [Roland] turned me on to it years ago), Glacier Teton, or Grand Teton, all distilled in eastern Idaho with Idaho potatoes and all super clean and great quality.

 

[Havasu blue label]

LOL, not on your life. I get all of that in our little town of 6K people in Montana. Liquor store too!


44° North, Blue Ice (less expensive but made at the same place), Glacier Teton, or Grand Teton, all distilled in eastern Idaho with Idaho potatoes and all super clean and great quality.

Sounds smooth will have to check if reserve bar carries it

 

[wishiknew]

Also, there is no place to get quality food, back to the Trader Joes/Whole Foods argument. Getting any organic/pasture-raised dairy products is a challenge. Lucerne is absolutely terrible quality and I will go without if that's all there is. Factory-farmed cattle have significantly higher Omega-6 fatty acids which cause inflammation in the body. Pasture-raised cattle are higher in Omega-3s, so I look to purchase that kind of meat and dairy whenever possible. Can't find it here. Also, to go to a farmer's market, you have to go up to Mohave Valley. Yes, I'm a food nerd.

be careful in that little farm they get sprayed by the indian crop duster plane god only knows what chemicals (they grow hay in about 3 to 4 days)

 

[PRIMO]

Havasu has transitioned from a Eutopia to
Party Central ...... Thanks to Sonny Bono
when he kicked all of the Spring Breakers out of Palm Springs !
This has now Developed into a Feeding Frenzy for the Housing Industry via the Back Room Deals & Greased Palms !
It is all about Leadership / When Firefighters & Cops as well as our Nurses & Teachers are well below Industry Standards for Salaries , It is Time for a Change !

 

[Havasu blue label]

Havasu has transitioned from a Eutopia to
Party Central ...... Thanks to Sonny Bono
when he kicked all of the Spring Breakers out of Palm Springs !
This has now Developed into a Feeding Frenzy for the Housing Industry via the Back Room Deals & Greased Palms !
It is all about Leadership / When Firefighters & Cops as well as our Nurses & Teachers are well below Industry Standards for Salaries , It is Time for a Change !

Yes it all started 10 years ago.

 

[sonicss31]

Saturated with
Storage
Real estate agents
Detailers
Shitty Mexican restaurants
Boat and SXS rental companies
Tiny homes (which honestly some of these things should be illegal they are so small)


It’s missing
Quality employees
Work force housing / apartments / multi family
Commercial properties
Mid to high end restaurants that are good
Clothing stores
Manufacturing style companies / career style jobs
Higher education

Did you just describe the Keys?

 

[ShineSyndicate]

Havasu needs a 'political pub'. So all the locals can sit and talk politics all day. Instead of bringing it up when its not even in the conversation to begin with.
All politics. TVs with all the news channels at once. One of those punching bags games and a few whack-a-moles. Even Bud Light on draft to keep that conversation going.
Axe throwing with Joe and Kama faces on the targets. Only Caucasian comfort food, so anything in a crock pot.
Open at 7am, for old guys that cant sleep in. Close at 8pm, no reason to stay open later.

Elks Lodge lol

 

[rivermobster]

Havasu has transitioned from a Eutopia to
Party Central ...... Thanks to Sonny Bono
when he kicked all of the Spring Breakers out of Palm Springs !
This has now Developed into a Feeding Frenzy for the Housing Industry via the Back Room Deals & Greased Palms !
It is all about Leadership / When Firefighters & Cops as well as our Nurses & Teachers are well below Industry Standards for Salaries , It is Time for a Change !

Seems you know a Bit about history!

But do you know where they went Before they got kicked out of Palm Springs? And why?

 

[DRYHEAT]

You're joking, right?

Either that, or you need to get out and explore more often.

In case you hadn't noticed...

Havasu City has been tweaker town for ages.

Someone needs to find the thread about the village out past the airport?

Scary shit!!!

I’ve got to ask, when was the last time you were in Havasu? where are all these tweakers you speak of? must be all the retired LE/FD from California.

 

[Havasu blue label]

I’ve got to ask, when was the last time you were in Havasu? where are all these tweakers you speak of? must be all the retired LE/FD from California.

Just observe the people that are working there you can only blast a small rail before work

 

[n2otoofast4u]

I am curious affordable condos/apartments has been brought up a couple times.. These investors that are doing storage units why wouldn't they migrate to apartment buildings in Havasu? I am sure you could get a good ROI if the demand is there. I think you can rent a cheap house for the same cost of a lake havasu apartment thus you dont see apartments being build.

It doesn’t pencil. We have ran performas 10
ways, what feels like 10 times now. It has yet to pencil out. We are currently running one using LITEC and am curious where it lands and what the tail would be.

 

[angiebaby]

be careful in that little farm they get sprayed by the indian crop duster plane god only knows what chemicals (they grow hay in about 3 to 4 days)

I've never been up there. Too far of a drive for me, but good to know.