Havasu: Bodycam Shows Police Fatally Shoot Man Armed With Knife

Bleakish Times · Jul 14, 2016

Bummer...

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c15_1468426043

shintoooo · Jul 14, 2016

Was he sleeping and he woke up freaking out?

Tough situation for the police.

bocco · Jul 14, 2016

Bleakish Times said:
Bummer...

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c15_1468426043

Looks like he brought a knife to a gun fight. I think their request to drop the knife was pretty clear and he was given multiple chances.

riverroyal · Jul 14, 2016

Excuse wasn't working. White lives matter?

Bummer for everyone, cops didn't go to work expecting the night to go south. If he was sleeping and woke up to the light in his eyes, was wasted, then maybe he truly was freaking out. Or, mental issue which is also pretty sad.

Kylemenz1 · Jul 14, 2016

shintoooo said:
Was he sleeping and he woke up freaking out?

Tough situation for the police.

Sounds Ike the police were there for a domestic of some kind. Normal people don't "sleep" with knives in there hands. I'd "guess" to say he was pretending to be asleep and waiting for police to come busting in. But that is 100% speculation.

shintoooo · Jul 14, 2016

Kylemenz1 said:
Sounds Ike the police were there for a domestic of some kind. Normal people don't "sleep" with knives in there hands. I'd "guess" to say he was pretending to be asleep and waiting for police to come busting in. But that is 100% speculation.

Yeah he must have been in a real deep sleep if he didn't hear them talking to him that whole time. These officers have tough choices to make every day.

79 HUSTLER · Jul 14, 2016

Domestic dispute, father called PD for his safety, son went into room with knife and did not comply.

Bleakish Times · Jul 14, 2016

Here is some background...

Early 911 Call:
http://www.havasunews.com/early-call/audio_cb2b2c4a-38ea-11e6-863d-5fda44d7656f.html

Late 911 Call:
http://www.havasunews.com/late-call/audio_d891176c-38ec-11e6-be0c-7b86394d917b.html

rivrrts429 · Jul 14, 2016

Fuck being a cop. That dude gave them no choice. Shitty that they're put in that situation.

There's always someone who thinks a taser would work or shoot them in the legs lol. Most of the time these situations can never take place without the perp participating in some way.

BTW - what the fuck has happened to this board? We're no longer cop bashers [emoji2]

Bleakish Times · Jul 14, 2016

I've NEVER been a cop basher... One of the toughest jobs in the world. They see the worst of human kind on a daily basis.

Joker · Jul 14, 2016

rivrrts429 said:
BTW - what the fuck has happened to this board? We're no longer cop bashers [emoji2]

We need them to protect us white folk during these dark times.

riverroyal · Jul 14, 2016

Joker said:
We need them to protect us white folk during these dark times.

By myself laughing after reading that

82daytona · Jul 14, 2016

riverroyal said:
By myself laughing after reading that

X2

rivrrts429 · Jul 14, 2016

Joker said:
We need them to protect us white folk during these dark times.

Shit has gone buckwild. Not gonna lie, I had lunch at the first place I saw a cop car today lol

2FORCEFULL · Jul 14, 2016

rivrrts429 said:
Fuck being a cop. That dude gave them no choice. Shitty that they're put in that situation.

There's always someone who thinks a taser would work or shoot them in the legs lol. Most of the time these situations can never take place without the perp participating in some way.

BTW - what the fuck has happened to this board? We're no longer cop bashers [emoji2]

I love cops, they're the only ones that will come over to my house when I call them..2ff... 2 fuc'n friends..

oh wait... I think I might have lost one...might be only 1FF

Abc123 · Jul 14, 2016

Damn, straight for the chest shot. Wonder why they didn't aim a little lower, but who knows. That seemed to escalate quickly. Maybe that guy just didn't like to be woken up before his alarm clock.

Btw- I'm sure that most of us here sleep with a knife or some other weapon near the bed. :cool

Get415 · Jul 14, 2016

NiceGuyEddie said:
Damn, straight for the chest shot. Wonder why they didn't aim a little lower, but who knows. That seemed to escalate quickly. Maybe that guy just didn't like to be woken up before his alarm clock.

Btw- I'm sure that most of us here sleep with a knife or some other weapon near the bed. :cool

Where is it they should be aiming lower at and what would be the benefit to either party?

coolchange · Jul 14, 2016

Oh good, another thread to go 40 pages and keep me from being bored at work tomorrow.

Abc123 · Jul 14, 2016

Get415 said:
Where is it they should be aiming lower at and what would be the benefit to either party?

Well correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought it was an officer's duty to not only protect themselves, but the person who they're detaining. I think a shot to the knee cap or anywhere else below the waist would have given the police the advantage they needed to safely get him into handcuffs. Like I said, things escalated quickly so who knows.

Edit: I forgot to respond to your 2nd question. The benefit to the guy with the knife is that he wouldn't be dead. For the cops, I'm sure (well, I'd imagine) that's it not easy to sleep at night after killing someone.

Flying_Lavey · Jul 14, 2016

Seems pretty clear cut. If it was a black guy the headlines would be "Cops slaughter black man after waking him from sleep eating in bed".

Bleakish Times · Jul 14, 2016

Correct me if I am wrong but I was always under the impression that once an officers gun is "unholstered" then "aimed" then "fired" it is to not maim but to kill.

LargeOrangeFont · Jul 14, 2016

rivrrts429 said:
Fuck being a cop. That dude gave them no choice. Shitty that they're put in that situation.

There's always someone who thinks a taser would work or shoot them in the legs lol. Most of the time these situations can never take place without the perp participating in some way.

BTW - what the fuck has happened to this board? We're no longer cop bashers [emoji2]

The forum is aging. In another 10 years we will all have pontoons and making threads about kids or dogs walking across our desert rock lawns, and how it is so much better now that there is a 35MPH speed limit on all waterways.

LargeOrangeFont · Jul 14, 2016

Bleakish Times said:
Correct me if I am wrong but I was always under the impression that once an officers gun is "unholstered" then "aimed" then "fired" it is to not maim but to kill.

Yes they shoot to eliminate the threat.

Get415 · Jul 14, 2016

NiceGuyEddie said:
Well correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought it was an officer's duty to not only protect themselves, but the person who they're detaining. I think a shot to the knee cap or anywhere else below the waist would have given the police the advantage they needed to safely get him into handcuffs. Like I said, things escalated quickly so who knows.

Edit: I forgot to respond to your 2nd question. The benefit to the guy with the knife is that he wouldn't be dead. For the cops, I'm sure (well, I'd imagine) that's it not easy to sleep at night after killing someone.

Not to go back and forth on this subject but that would be one hell of shot. Knee cap or any limb for that matter. Then this can go the direction that IF you did hit that target is it going to stop him because now they are up close and personal. Just a shitty deal all around

Ballyhoo · Jul 14, 2016

Real difficult trying to make a precision knee cap shot when someone is trying to kill you. All police firearms training is to shoot high in the chest. Think heart/lungs. Belly shots rarely put people down right away. Extremity shots are reserved for TV and movies. You are trained to stop that threat as quickly as possible.

yz450mm · Jul 14, 2016

NiceGuyEddie said:
Damn, straight for the chest shot. Wonder why they didn't aim a little lower, but who knows. That seemed to escalate quickly. Maybe that guy just didn't like to be woken up before his alarm clock.

Btw- I'm sure that most of us here sleep with a knife or some other weapon near the bed. :cool

How about a .40 under the pillow next to me? In a quick access safe, of course...

DRYHEAT · Jul 14, 2016

A deranged knit wit with a knife can really fuck somebody up from 5 to 10 feet away, ending and officers career or possibly his life. They did the right thing. It's too bad the guy died but the cops are going to go home to their families!

Abc123 · Jul 14, 2016

Get415 said:
Not to go back and forth on this subject but that would be one hell of shot. Knee cap or any limb for that matter. Then this can go the direction that IF you did hit that target is it going to stop him because now they are up close and personal. Just a shitty deal all around

True. I listened to the 911 calls, dude seemed to be nuts and possibly on drugs. In the 3rd call, the dad said his son was arrested for DV against his gf days before this event. The guy is dead and that sucks, but it doesn't sound like Lake Havasu lost one of it's best residents. :cool

2FORCEFULL · Jul 14, 2016

be'n a cop aint easy...and they do make mistakes...lol

[video=youtube;t0M7v_9FIsI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0M7v_9FIsI[/video]

Abc123 · Jul 14, 2016

God only knows how that father feels. Not saying it's his fault for calling 911, sounded like he had to, but man, that's got to be a tough pill to swallow.

Shortdeck · Jul 14, 2016

2FORCEFULL said:
be'n a cop aint easy...and they do make mistakes...lol

[video=youtube;t0M7v_9FIsI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0M7v_9FIsI[/video]

That's just wrong. LOL [emoji23]

Joker · Jul 14, 2016

A shot disabling him would have resulted in taxpayers paying his medical bill. Cremation is much more affordable under Obamacare.

2FORCEFULL · Jul 14, 2016

Joker said:
A shot disabling him would have resulted in taxpayers paying his medical bill. Cremation is much more affordable under Obamacare.

they should use water guns like turkey:thumbsup you got knocked the fuc out...

[video=youtube_https;0SOGoiZflYc]https://youtu.be/0SOGoiZflYc[/video]

2FORCEFULL · Jul 14, 2016

Shortdeck said:
That's just wrong. LOL [emoji23]

wonder how many dates he got off that video

Water rod · Jul 14, 2016

NiceGuyEddie said:
God only knows how that father feels. Not saying it's his fault for calling 911, sounded like he had to, but man, that's got to be a tough pill to swallow.

This is a clear example of people having no respect for authority. He committed a crime by threatening family members. He was given the opportunity to come out of his room with his hands up several times but he refused. Its unfortunate that he lost his life but Cops did what they where trained to do. Body cameras saved these officers careers by showing the truth. God bless those officers.

Joker · Jul 14, 2016

Water rod said:
This is a clear example of people having no respect for authority. He committed a crime by threatening family members. He was given the opportunity to come out of his room with his hands up several times but he refused. Its unfortunate that he lost his life but Cops did what they where trained to do. Body cameras saved these officers careers by showing the truth. God bless those officers.

That city has more problems than the bathroom stall at China Buffet.

Angler · Jul 14, 2016

Where are the protesters? #methlives matter....

Angler · Jul 14, 2016

Water rod said:
This is a clear example of people having no respect for authority. He committed a crime by threatening family members. He was given the opportunity to come out of his room with his hands up several times but he refused. Its unfortunate that he lost his life but Cops did what they where trained to do. Body cameras saved these officers careers by showing the truth. God bless those officers.

Or respect for his Father.... #methlives don't matter

Joker · Jul 14, 2016

Angler said:
Where are the protesters? #methlives matter....

#havagagger

2FORCEFULL · Jul 14, 2016

Water rod said:
This is a clear example of people having no respect for authority. He committed a crime by threatening family members. He was given the opportunity to come out of his room with his hands up several times but he refused. Its unfortunate that he lost his life but Cops did what they where trained to do. Body cameras saved these officers careers by showing the truth. God bless those officers.

wonder why they don't put led lights on those armors? a little cell phone light would have light up the room

Bobby V · Jul 14, 2016

Joker said:
That city has more problems than the bathroom stall at China Buffet.

What kind of problems that other cities don't have. :headscratch:

Abc123 · Jul 14, 2016

Angler said:
Where are the protesters? #methlives matter....

I'll be in town next weekend. How many signs should I make?

Joker · Jul 14, 2016

Bobby V said:
What kind of problems that other cities don't have. :headscratch:

[emoji476] [emoji3]

2FORCEFULL · Jul 14, 2016

Bleakish Times said:
Bummer...

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c15_1468426043

this might not go so easy.... don't they have to sayPOLICE OFFICER...get your hands up???

i'll bet the dad sues..

whatcha think, some one comes in you room and blinds you with a light and says get your hands up..
with the amount of home invasions...bet this never goes good this way...

ok I said it,,bring the heat

Bigbore500r · Jul 14, 2016

NiceGuyEddie said:
Damn, straight for the chest shot. Wonder why they didn't aim a little lower, but who knows. That seemed to escalate quickly. Maybe that guy just didn't like to be woken up before his alarm clock.

Btw- I'm sure that most of us here sleep with a knife or some other weapon near the bed. :cool

I asked that question when I was a teenager to an older CHP friend of my dads - He told me that LEO never shoot to wound...if it comes down to firing a weapon it's intended to kill, and it's because the situation has been pushed to that level. There is no "shoot em in the leg" like the movies I guess

Bobby V · Jul 14, 2016

Joker said:
[emoji476] [emoji3]

Oh..I knew what you were doing. You have always had a hard on for Havasu. :monkeypee

Angler · Jul 14, 2016

NiceGuyEddie said:
I'll be in town next weekend. How many signs should I make?

It's Havasu, better make a whole bunch!

Abc123 · Jul 14, 2016

Bobby V said:
Oh..I knew what you were doing. You have always had a hard on for Havasu. :monkeypee

Don't be jealous that Bullhead has way better quality meth than Havasu.

Joker · Jul 14, 2016

NiceGuyEddie said:
Don't be jealous that Bullhead has way better quality meth than Havasu.

I was thinking water, but I'll say your "line"works.

djunkie · Jul 14, 2016

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