Hallett 210 Surface Drive

[Tommy Gun Images]

Ran into this guy at the dock yesterday while in my 210 and started chatting. His 210 is a 2000 running an, I believe he said, MSA surface drive and a 502. Is never seen a drive like this. I guess it runs a bravo prop. Boat also has a different dash. I’m some of the ski race guys around here have some info on it. I just thought it was cool!

 

[hallett3]

Don’t know anything about that drive, but it’s bad ass looking and the boat too.

 

[hallett21]

I wanna know how it runs!

 

[AZLineman]

I looked at that boat long and hard and thought about picking it up but my new schiada motor is breaking the retirement bank. It's a very cool one off piece and the MSA surface drive is pretty proven around the world. I don't know how easy it would be to get parts in the US but there is definitely support around. I researched it a little when I first saw the boat go on the market And it's a solid piece spec wise. It's also cool because it uses a standard bravo prop. I don't think it will handle a shit ton of horsepower but up to about 600 given the weight of the boat is what I came up with Max. He definitely stole the thing. It went cheap. It is pretty damn perfect too. Definitely a nice one off float.

 

[Havasu Rehab]

I looked at that boat long and hard and thought about picking it up but my new schiada motor is breaking the retirement bank. It's a very cool one off piece and the MSA surface drive is pretty proven around the world. I don't know how easy it would be to get parts in the US but there is definitely support around. I researched it a little when I first saw the boat go on the market And it's a solid piece spec wise. It's also cool because it uses a standard bravo prop. I don't think it will handle a shit ton of horsepower but up to about 600 given the weight of the boat is what I came up with Max. He definitely stole the thing. It went cheap. It is pretty damn perfect too. Definitely a nice one off float.

Let’s see that motor!

 

[Tommy Gun Images]

I wanna know how it runs!

He said he's been playing with the set up. Just added those tabs the day before and said it really settled it down. When he picked it up it would only run 50. I shit you not he added one of Steve's Whammy plates and instantly put it at 60. Maybe Steve was onto something . He says he's hoping for 80 out of it ultimately. Nice guy and you can tell he's having fun playing with the setup.

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

Ran into this guy at the dock yesterday while in my 210 and started chatting. His 210 is a 2000 running an, I believe he said, MSA surface drive and a 502. Is never seen a drive like this. I guess it runs a bravo prop. Boat also has a different dash. I’m some of the ski race guys around here have some info on it. I just thought it was cool!

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He has posted a couple times in the Hallett owners group on FB. Definitely a cool boat for sure!

And while we are here.......when did you get a 210? Let's see it!!

 

[Tommy Gun Images]

He has posted a couple times in the Hallett owners group on FB. Definitely a cool boat for sure!

And while we are here.......when did you get a 210? Let's see it!!

lol. I got it last year. It’s the one Steve had a while back. Going to be slowly upgrading it as money allows.

 

[SOCALCRICKETT]

Isn't that the 210 that just recently sold?

 

[Havasu Rehab]

lol. I got it last year. It’s the one Steve had a while back. Going to be slowly upgrading it as money allows.

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@Tommy Gun Images you’ve been doing squats!

 

[ChrisV]

lol. I got it last year. It’s the one Steve had a while back. Going to be slowly upgrading it as money allows.

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Badass and congrats!

 

[Tommy Gun Images]

@Tommy Gun Images you’ve been doing squats!

Thanks for noticing!

 

[Tommy Gun Images]

Badass and congrats!

Thanks Chris

 

[Tommy Gun Images]

Isn't that the 210 that just recently sold?

Which one?

 

[bdez.19]

nice chatting with you yesterday!
I’ll drop a few photos below of the boat out of the water. I’ll also attach some photos of the plate I fabricated that took the boat from 50mph to 69mph…. not quite a whammy plate, but similar LOL.

 

[bdez.19]

I looked at that boat long and hard and thought about picking it up but my new schiada motor is breaking the retirement bank. It's a very cool one off piece and the MSA surface drive is pretty proven around the world. I don't know how easy it would be to get parts in the US but there is definitely support around. I researched it a little when I first saw the boat go on the market And it's a solid piece spec wise. It's also cool because it uses a standard bravo prop. I don't think it will handle a shit ton of horsepower but up to about 600 given the weight of the boat is what I came up with Max. He definitely stole the thing. It went cheap. It is pretty damn perfect too. Definitely a nice one off float.

MSA’s website states the drive is good for 950 foot pounds and 6000rpm depending on the application. I spoke with a gentleman who has one in the UK… similar hull and he’s making somewhere in the neighborhood of 700 horse and has put hundreds of hours of abuse on it. So far I’m digging the thing. Martin sand the owner of MSA is super responsive and helpful, but I’m sure trying to get replacement parts is going to be a PITA.

 

[Tommy Gun Images]

nice chatting with you yesterday!
I’ll drop a few photos below of the boat out of the water. I’ll also attach some photos of the plate I fabricated that took the boat from 50mph to 69mph…. not quite a whammy plate, but similar LOL.

Great taking with you as well! Yes that’s much better than the whammy plate for sure! Can’t wait to see you get her dialed in!

 

[I Dig It !]

Ok I’ll ask what is a whammy plate?

 

[HST4ME]

That is a cool set up

 

[SOCALCRICKETT]

Which one?

Surface drive boat

 

[lakemadness]

Dang, that's a batman looking drive set-up. Super cool that you're tying it out!

 

[lakemadness]

lol. I got it last year. It’s the one Steve had a while back. Going to be slowly upgrading it as money allows.

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Costly but tight set-up right there!

 

[Tommy Gun Images]

Surface drive boat

Yes. I believe he said he picked in up in Phx

 

[SeanRitchie]

I saw him pulling down into Riviera as I was pulling out, noticed the scoop then the drive.

Is the prop shaft inline with the engine crank? Or is there some sort of drop down gearset/shaft to get the prop lower?

 

[bdez.19]

I saw him pulling down into Riviera as I was pulling out, noticed the scoop then the drive.

Is the prop shaft inline with the engine crank? Or is there some sort of drop down gearset/shaft to get the prop lower?

From my understanding there is some sort of chain system… there are no exploded parts manuals online. MSA claims “horizontal prop shaft (no Z driveshaft configuration), no power robbing beveled gears, blah blah blah”

It does seem very efficient, but I feel like it should go faster… some of these guys in Europe get 80-100mph on similar boats… however I think those boats have a flat delta pad… vs a Hallett 210 is deep V and freaking heavy. The crate ZZ502 in the boat is healthy and overall “stock”… would hope it makes somewhere in the neighborhood of 500 horse

 

[bdez.19]

Also… the boat has a 5 blade 28P 15.25”… which only spins 4800rpm at 69mph

I wanted to try a 4 blade 28P to raise the rpm. I was able to get to 5100rpm… but lost 7mph and the midrange wasn’t great.

What’s everyone’s opinion on what I should try next? Desert storm weekend I plan on trying a 4 blade 30P. Ideally it would be great to find and test a worked 5 blade 26P.

 

[Racer56]

From my understanding there is some sort of chain system… there are no exploded parts manuals online. MSA claims “horizontal prop shaft (no Z driveshaft configuration), no power robbing beveled gears, blah blah blah”

It does seem very efficient, but I feel like it should go faster… some of these guys in Europe get 80-100mph on similar boats… however I think those boats have a flat delta pad… vs a Hallett 210 is deep V and freaking heavy. The crate ZZ502 in the boat is healthy and overall “stock”… would hope it makes somewhere in the neighborhood of 500 horse

With the speeds you are running, I bet the motor isn't making the power you think it is.

 

[Runs2rch]

With the speeds you are running, I bet the motor isn't making the power you think it is.

Exactly this. Sounds like its missing 100hp.

 

[MARCYTECH]

Dang that’s a good lookin boat. That drive is wild lookin I’ve never seen one before but looks like race shit so it must be

 

[gqchris]

I need a pic of the Rooster tail!

 

[Todd Mohr]

With the speeds you are running, I bet the motor isn't making the power you think it is.

My 25 Eagle will hit 70 with a stock 502 Magnum (420hp) with a 26 bravo 4 blade, the Eagle has a pad and might weigh about the same as yours. I agree that it sounds more like 400 than 500hp. Have you checked carb jetting and timing?

 

[Bakotrash]

Bad ass boat my friend!