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What............….A...........FUCKING...……….SHOCKER...……….

Oh GMac… Time to put up or shut up. Go take a picture of you surrendering all your guns to the local police department. E...N....O....U......G....H.... IS E......N....O...U....G...H...!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will gladly surrender any and all of my firearms in accord with any Federal law that is passed. If all you freaks are required to turn in your AR's I will turn mine in with a smile on my face.
 

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Quick search reveals there might be as much as a 2 to 1 ratio difference in republican mass shooter versus democrats. Not in your favor buddy... Looks to me like enough is really enough. All democrats need to turn in all their guns and our mass shootings go down by 2/3...… ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! Stop whining on the internet and go actually do something productive about saving lives. Well unless you are just another Libtard hypocrite
https://www.politifact.com/new-york...y-mass-shooters-end-being-democrats-rep-tenn/
 

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If you can’t stand at the top of your stairwell with a Remington 870 and defend your castle against a couple tweakers, you probably aren’t ready for an AR15.
I'd rather put them on the ground at 200 yards!!! :D
 

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I'd rather put them on the ground at 200 yards!!! :D
Sure, and enjoy spending the rest of your life in jail for murder. Pretty hard making a self defense claim under the circumstances you're describing with such glee. You're still #1 on the list of people who should not be permitted to own firearms and most likely to commit a rage killing.
 

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Did yo try to find the most liberal site or did it just pop up for you?
How many of those outstanding citizens from Chicago that shoot each other 24/7 are republicans? Oh wait it’s not mass shooting they only killed 8 this weekend.
It's tragic that in the age of Trump all fact-checking websites are simply assumed to have a liberal bias. There was a time when even conservatives cared about facts.
 

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Again with that politifact
Politifact this one chief

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Sure, and enjoy spending the rest of your life in jail for murder. Pretty hard making a self defense claim under the circumstances you're describing with such glee. You're still #1 on the list of people who should not be permitted to own firearms and most likely to commit a rage killing.

Hear that @RiverDave? Your membership is prone to committing rage killings. It sounds like Gmac might red flag him.



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Again with that politifact
Politifact this one chief

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How many mass shootings did you cherry pick to compile for that list going back to 1865. Looks like what, maybe 100? We're already at about 230 mass shootings in America this year! So yeah, I'm hardly surprised that in 150 years you can find 100 or so Democrats. And your 4 incidents under Trump? Fucking ridiculous. A mass shooting is defined as more than four and not including the shooter- and we're at about 230 for this year alone. Fact check your own fact checking.
 

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ROFL

Once again, the stupid just seems to keep sticking to ya dipshit.

Your view on life is shallow and pedantic, I find you boring and for what it is worth, WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU HERE?

You contribute nothing to the members here, other than a vile opinion of them and their lifestyles, again, why are you here?

If you were even 1/10th as intelligent as you praise yourself, you would realize there are no souls to save here, and no opinions to alter.

Fucking giant windbag.
 

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I will gladly surrender any and all of my firearms in accord with any Federal law that is passed. If all you freaks are required to turn in your AR's I will turn mine in with a smile on my face.
So you will get rid of your guns just like you will pay the extra taxes you profess to be willing to pay?
 

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Sure, and enjoy spending the rest of your life in jail for murder. Pretty hard making a self defense claim under the circumstances you're describing with such glee. You're still #1 on the list of people who should not be permitted to own firearms and most likely to commit a rage killing.
 

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Sure, and enjoy spending the rest of your life in jail for murder. Pretty hard making a self defense claim under the circumstances you're describing with such glee. You're still #1 on the list of people who should not be permitted to own firearms and most likely to commit a rage killing.
 

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How many mass shootings did you cherry pick to compile for that list going back to 1865. Looks like what, maybe 100? We're already at about 230 mass shootings in America this year! So yeah, I'm hardly surprised that in 150 years you can find 100 or so Democrats. And your 4 incidents under Trump? Fucking ridiculous. A mass shooting is defined as more than four and not including the shooter- and we're at about 230 for this year alone. Fact check your own fact checking.

Once again a question, who blows the football back up?
 

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It's tragic that in the age of Trump all fact-checking websites are simply assumed to have a liberal bias. There was a time when even conservatives cared about facts.
I care about facts, I just do a little more research then go to the first liberal piece of shit that pops up.

Now how about Chicago, do you care to address the mass shootings there? How about all those outstanding citizens shooting each other daily? Did you count how many were in Chicago off of your wiki list? I counted 25 in Chicago and surrounding areas. Tell me who runs Chicago? Tell me about their gun regs in Chicago? Tell me how many of those individuals do you think are conservative? That's just one example off of your list.
 

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I will gladly surrender any and all of my firearms in accord with any Federal law that is passed. If all you freaks are required to turn in your AR's I will turn mine in with a smile on my face.

Under what stipulation would you do that? A federal law that would be passed would have to conform to the 2nd, would it not?
So that means for the feds to Flag you for confiscation you would have to be disqualified from ownership due to some guideline, much like guidelines that disqualify people now. (Felon, psycho, etc)

What if you disagreed with the judgment of your disqualifying verdict?
Say that your doctor or your grandkids teachers have an opinion that you should be disqualified and based on that they come knocking.
Or are you saying that you would conform to abolishment of the 2nd and line up at the slaughter chute with the herd?
 

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I care about facts, I just do a little more research then go to the first liberal piece of shit that pops up.

Now how about Chicago, do you care to address the mass shootings there? How about all those outstanding citizens shooting each other daily? Did you count how many were in Chicago off of your wiki list? I counted 25 in Chicago and surrounding areas. Tell me who runs Chicago? Tell me about their gun regs in Chicago? Tell me how many of those individuals do you think are conservative? That's just one example off of your list.

Chicago is one place I wouldn’t try to buy a gun on the street.
They would just shoot me and take my money.

They don’t have any sort of integrity there when it comes to honest illegal bartering.
 
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I care about facts, I just do a little more research then go to the first liberal piece of shit that pops up.

Now how about Chicago, do you care to address the mass shootings there? How about all those outstanding citizens shooting each other daily? Did you count how many were in Chicago off of your wiki list? I counted 25 in Chicago and surrounding areas. Tell me who runs Chicago? Tell me about their gun regs in Chicago? Tell me how many of those individuals do you think are conservative? That's just one example off of your list.
I rather doubt that most gangbangers give two shits about party politics. They think about money, power, and fucking. And yes Chicago does have Democratic leadership and their gun laws have not stopped the violence. Chicago is a small island in a sea of easy gun access. Scale gun restrictions up to the scale of state’s or countries and you finally see it become a little harder to get a gun. And studies have shown that states with stricter gun laws have fewer gun murders than states without those gun laws. If you’re a shithead in Chicago, all the rest of the complacent Midwest gun market is just too available to
Meaningfully restrict what is available in the city to organized criminals (might be interesting to look at rates of domestic murders though as impulse killers could find be
Delayed in their attempts to get a weapon and kill their ex).
 

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Under what stipulation would you do that? A federal law that would be passed would have to conform to the 2nd, would it not?
So that means for the feds to Flag you for confiscation you would have to be disqualified from ownership due to some guideline, much like guidelines that disqualify people now. (Felon, psycho, etc)

What if you disagreed with the judgment of your disqualifying verdict?
Say that your doctor or your grandkids teachers have an opinion that you should be disqualified and based on that they come knocking.
Or are you saying that you would conform to abolishment of the 2nd and line up at the slaughter chute with the herd?
Google red flag law. Trump claims to favor them so I think there is a fair chance of passage. If I or another threatens physical violence, that should be sufficient to secure all of my firearms and allow a Judicial process to determine whether I’m suited to firearm ownership. Think about it this way, if you point a gun at a cop thereby threatening him, he is 100% justified in shooting you in proactive self defense without waiting for you to pull the trigger actually attempt to murder him. When it comes to gun violence against the public, your right to life, liberty and the pursuit
Of happiness can be abruptly curtailed upon a
Threat and so can your 2A rights. This is particularly relevant to all of you clamoring for revolution so you can go lynch some liberals and shoot people from 200 yards away.l (eg Boatdoc) You’re not talking about self defense, you’re fantasizing about murder which makes you a
Danger to society who should not have access to anything more dangerous than a plastic knife and spoon.
 

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Google red flag law. Trump claims to favor them so I think there is a fair chance of passage. If I or another threatens physical violence, that should be sufficient to secure all of my firearms and allow a Judicial process to determine whether I’m suited to firearm ownership. Think about it this way, if you point a gun at a cop thereby threatening him, he is 100% justified in shooting you in proactive self defense without waiting for you to pull the trigger actually attempt to murder him. When it comes to gun violence against the public, your right to life, liberty and the pursuit
Of happiness can be abruptly curtailed upon a
Threat and so can your 2A rights. This is particularly relevant to all of you clamoring for revolution so you can go lynch some liberals and shoot people from 200 yards away.l (eg Boatdoc) You’re not talking about self defense, you’re fantasizing about murder which makes you a
Danger to society who should not have access to anything more dangerous than a plastic knife and spoon.

I am familiar with the laws.
You said you would gladly comply when they showed up to take your guns and I wondered under what circumstances would you comply?
Any and all?

Oh, and I’d point out that I have not said anything about shooting anybody at any range.
I’ve already been in life and death situations, twice.
 

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I rather doubt that most gangbangers give two shits about party politics. They think about money, power, and fucking. And yes Chicago does have Democratic leadership and their gun laws have not stopped the violence. Chicago is a small island in a sea of easy gun access. Scale gun restrictions up to the scale of state’s or countries and you finally see it become a little harder to get a gun. And studies have shown that states with stricter gun laws have fewer gun murders than states without those gun laws. If you’re a shithead in Chicago, all the rest of the complacent Midwest gun market is just too available to
Meaningfully restrict what is available in the city to organized criminals (might be interesting to look at rates of domestic murders though as impulse killers could find be
Delayed in their attempts to get a weapon and kill their ex).
There is that sensitive left I knew you had in you. Do you not think those “shitheads” as you call them, have parents and other relatives that vote? Also how do you know those gangbangers, once again what you call them don’t vote? My guess is that most do so the family can keep their welfare and other state freebies offered from the left coming in.

My point is there are laws already on the board that are supposed to keep guns out of the hands of these outlaws. It doesn’t happen period. So imposing new laws are going to help how? If they want guns they will get guns . If they can’t get a gun they will get a knife. If they can’t get a knife they will get a bat and so on. They will always find a way to kill and that is not just in Chicago.
 

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ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.... lol... So go turn them in GMAC. Make a difference. Get those dangerous tools of death off the street... well, unless again you are just a blow hard with no real will to make the change you so long for.

The children... think of the children!
 

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Chicago is one place I wouldn’t try to buy a gun on the street.
They would just shoot me and take my money.

They don’t have any sort of integrity there when it comes honest illegal bartering.
Exactly!
For that you deal with the Mexicans! :D
 

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Yeah, the lefty theory goes that If Indiana tightened their gun laws up, murders in Chicago would decrease...and they call me a conspiracy theorist...
Gary IN. isn't exactly utopia.
Matter of fact, there are many occasions where LEO went off the deep end. Those guys get Very extensive background checks.

Not Trying to mislabel LEO. Just an observation.
 

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Gary IN. isn't exactly utopia.
Matter of fact, there are many occasions where LEO went off the deep end. Those guys get Very extensive background checks.

Not Trying to mislabel LEO. Just an observation.

It just shows the truth, any human can overload and go crazy, and you will never stop crazy.

No matter what laws you pass, no matter what you do, someone will ALWAYS surprise you, humans are by nature unpredictable.

These fucking retards think that Seal Team 6 is going to go knocking down doors to confiscate our weapons.....

If even ONE scenario like that goes down, everyone (and it may only be 30% of the population) will prepare for it.

It's a death trap. Outnumbered 10000 to one, the rate of attrition per incident alone makes it impossible. They would run out of bodies long before we would run out of ammo and victims on our side.

Active training, bla bla bla, we are not military...yawn...if even a single participant per event is killed or injured, you fall far short very fast.

No Red Dawn bullshit, that's a movie you stupid twats, many Americans have hunted their whole lives, we have taken lives, and skinned and eaten our prey.


You pretending like it's some giant leap to kill a man is all fiction, humans do whatever is necessary to survive. Watch a mother defend her child, she'll kill you without a thought.

Don't pretend your reality and reservations are everyone else's. It's an easy way to end up dead.
 

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You have that right SBMech.
We could pass more laws than dollars in the National deficit. We could strip all law abiding citizens of all of their rights and there will always be some kook to defy all efforts to curb bad moral judgement.

Some of society has flipped the blame and here we are. Me wondering when I will become the criminal for nothing more than defending my rights.
It sucks I won't like long enough to see if liberty actually thrives in this great country.
 

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You have that right SBMech.
We could pass more laws than dollars in the National deficit. We could strip all law abiding citizens of all of their rights and there will always be some kook to defy all efforts to curb bad moral judgement.

Some of society has flipped the blame and here we are. Me wondering when I will become the criminal for nothing more than defending my rights.
It sucks I won't like long enough to see if liberty actually thrives in this great country.

It has thrived for over 200 years my friend, it looks dark now, but I still have faith that we will overcome this new threat to America, after all...they are dumb as fuck....:D
 

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You have that right SBMech.
We could pass more laws than dollars in the National deficit. We could strip all law abiding citizens of all of their rights and there will always be some kook to defy all efforts to curb bad moral judgement.

Some of society has flipped the blame and here we are. Me wondering when I will become the criminal for nothing more than defending my rights.
It sucks I won't like long enough to see if liberty actually thrives in this great country.
Don’t give up hope.
Some of us, are trying to raise well rounded children.
She went to liberal public schools.
She went to her WW2 vet great grandfathers funeral. She saw the respect in the eyes of those Marines that day, and heard the words that were spoken about this man.
She’s actually been through it twice.

A grandfathers funeral is something you don’t forget.
Marines firing rifles, as part of the tribute.
She collected their brass.
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Sounds like he’s running for mayor next?

No matter, CA is in my rear view mirror.
 

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Drive down to LAPD HQ and give your guns up then.
It's a proposed ban on assault rifles, so I wouldn't (and won't) be giving up my handgun. Having served in the Marine Corps, I'm acutely aware of the damage that an assault rifle can do. I have no need or interest in owning one...
 
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