Will do, I'll try & post tonight
FUGGY DUCK GOES TO MEAD....
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Give me a call any time Steve
Yes Sir......same #?
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Yes (661)549-0606
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good talking to you, hope we can make it to the race
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Wow!! Boat looks great, nice colors!
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I love the colors Steve! I would yank the motor and run a new 400Merc off the back
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damn.... beautiful boat!!!!!!!looks brand new... what year is it and what power did it come with? also, are the black things on the engine hatch cup holders???
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Your boat has all the I wanna do's to mine... controls, steering wheel,stainless rub rail...... and colors...lol... how much you want for it??? i'll give you 16k... and what year is it...
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well, never made it out to mead yesterday....but on my way out right now....hope the prop works as I want it to...
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a better way to look at the plate, is a ride plate... works good on squirt gun boats,,, would be a great add to weed wackers also...but a great add to in n out hamburger boats..
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OK, so I made it out to mead today with the fugly Duck....left the house at 8am...guess I was late getting going
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f'n traffic.... stop and go, had a couple stops to make on the way... didn't get to mead till 1pm... but I did make it...
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Heres the transom on mine with the extension box and long trim tabs. The tabs are hydraulic with an override down pedal. Powered with a 540. Goes 80+
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I took these pics to show how tail heavy this boat is.....
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that is badd ass serious right ther... thanks so much for posting
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ok, so here's how it went with the mach 26p 4 blade.... whole different boat,.. pretty much cut through every roller , and no pounding back breakers,... she still want a lot of tab.... but now I can at least trim it out and can adjust the hoping out....so I cruised across the lake at 55 mph on the speedo... you could let go of the wheel and it would just track straight....so as the day went I bumped up to 65. it was 4000 rpms... so a lot left right??... the tabs where at 8 pretty far down... kinda hit a wall @ 70 mph as the drive was tucked almost all the way in.... I tucked my balls and started trimming now at 75mph.... she started shaking her ass a little so I ran the tabs down to 10.. bow up, throttle down and I trimed her out a little more... she went to the 80 mark and started a shake.... kinda like when you wash your dog with a water hose... the speedo pegs at just past 80 mph.... maybe 82-83mph... that a water speedo, so probley more like 55 or 60 and that speed, she went in to a progressive side to side that was only getting worse...I backed her down real slow.... some thing is not right with this boat
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So I get home, start poking around...it had cable to the helm..seems ok... little play.... I go to the back of the boat... so as I think I know this to be the way to check the rams...try to push the drive... should only go about 1/8.... right ???... wtf.... it goes all the way in.......so I go the other way... goes a couple inches and stops....so... the only thing I think is their is air in the shafts...right???? and the only way I know of to get it out.... turn the wheel lock to lock about 5 times.... right??? I do this and it's still the same....now WTF.... did I say I hate working on boats yet.....so,....when I bought this boat,... of coarse the old ower says it's the baddest mo fo on the water... but he only runs it 35 mph....lol... skeert....but he did give me a 3 rig binder full of receipts and all the hallett manuals... I keep seeing receipts for drive alignment... and a letter he wrote to hallett about the steering... and another receipt where they upgraded the steering parts...he also down loaded and printed all the instructions from latham steering....and also high lighted a few areas, made me think some one was also trying to figure out WTF...the boat is flat out dangerous....I'm not afraid to die,.. but I am very scared of killing some one...I would never ever drive the boat as fast as I did today with anyone in or close to this boat...
so here's what I found.... the rams are plumbed back wards... and as the system get pressure ... it causes the drive to turn..and it never bleads the air out.... gonna swap the lines to correct... and see if it make a difference in how it drives
another thing it was doing,,,, harder to keep in a straight line than a jet boat at idle.... getting out of the dock area was a chore
so here's what I found.... the rams are plumbed back wards... and as the system get pressure ... it causes the drive to turn..and it never bleads the air out.... gonna swap the lines to correct... and see if it make a difference in how it drives
another thing it was doing,,,, harder to keep in a straight line than a jet boat at idle.... getting out of the dock area was a chore
Thanks....a 400 would sure change the whole weight ratio, no denying the efficiency of outboards.
1994, 454efi, yes they are cup holders
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Sounds about right, similar to my experience before the -2 lower.
Sounds like a whole lot of shaken going on. After speaking with Frank, N of the river, he recommended trying a 25 Mirage in conjunction with 500hp & stock Bravo at -7. Hopefully you have diagnosed the steering issue.
I was going to offer up a straight trade, your boat for mine, but deal is off, too much shaken going on
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LOL.... wait till you run yours and get back to me....a -7 is gonna be a short ass drive....lol
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this is the kinda shit that piss's me off... who the fuc did this????? the lines that have to go about 3' are about 10' long and coiled and zip tied in a wad.... you can't make this shit up... pretty sure this is why you can't bleed the air out of the system... this is how people get hurt...first if the guy see it before he crash's....some bitch this is horrible
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On the bright side , the cost to fix handling issues may have gone way down. And yes that is seriously effed up!
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Are you hydraulic to the wheel?
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Deyam! I thought you got the white open bow with some red graphics on the side?? I had no idea you picked this sexy bitch up
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Hoping I run into you one day out there Steve. I would like to run my boat alongside you. I run my tabs down by feel and trim up. I have a pic of it sitting just right. I'm guessing somewhere in the low 70 range.
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no, like to though
Thanks Brother! Lol... bought it 7/15 & still haven't stopped pouring love at it. Anxious to get it done & start using it.
That would be cool. What prop are you running, drive length, tabs. Sounds like you are dialed in & know how to run your boat.
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23 Rev4, stock B1 X, same Bennett sport tabs as 2FF. Open bow though. One of the first trips out when we first bought it I found out quickly trimming high with no tab was a wild ride.
The cool thing with 210's is they can be tame, and a driver's boat all in one. Would I like more power. Some days, but then I remember how easy this 496HO is on fuel, and how reliable. I would not want less power. Every time I see a larger boat with a 496 I think that must be a pig.
Good
Good info... did your boat come with the Rev4 or did you experiment? What is your opinion of Rev4 vs Bravo prop?
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My 24 Schiada sits that same way in the water.
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as did my 24 schiada.... but hallett don't have the re entry schiada has.....
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a rev four is a tractor prop.. there slowest of all, I didn't try the 23 rev I have because I would only be able to run tops of 68 mph, and that's at only 6% slip...my hallett said I was doing 83....lol and that with a 26p prop...your gonna learn on you own, and I've only tried to help you skip a step... you need to talk to closed bow boat owners... I've own a bunch. and they are different... that and.... plan on spending some coin to go past 70...
a rev four is a tractor prop.. there slowest of all, I didn't try the 23 rev I have because I would only be able to run tops of 68 mph, and that's at only 6% slip...my hallett said I was doing 83....lol and that with a 26p prop...your gonna learn on you own, and I've only tried to help you skip a step... you need to talk to closed bow boat owners... I've own a bunch. and they are different... that and.... plan on spending some coin to go past 70...
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Steve you will sort it out, you always do. I have a 27 mirage that doesn't work on the rt...any interest? anyone...hit me up...Rob
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ok...you still at off shore?
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Hey RD... could you post a pic of the ride plate on the back of your schiada??? seems to me that the transom area at the bottom is notched so the plate fits flush?? and also it seems to me that I remember it being kinda wide and notched where the drive goes????? I'm gonna guess that the schiada 21 with an out drive is gonna be similar to the hallett 210 in needed power to get over 70mph.(GPS) and some of the carituristics as in prop selections will be similar.... I know for sure the 210 will never have the ruff water ride as the 21 schiada . as it doesn't have the wave busting re entry ....I 'd like to catch you out on the water in that boat someday to get a real first hand look at how that boat works...I know that all the 21rc vdrives worked very well, and even the 21 rt's...the rt I had with the 500hp merc was a pretty awesome little boat...I'm really enjoying the hallett, and it pretty cool that my son and I have the same boats... gonna be a fun summer....
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I wouldn't go that far. You are probably right as far as losing a couple mph, but planning, pulling, and mid range are where most people spend the day boating. The REV works perfect for a normal day of boating. I bet Bblades could clean one up to your liking.
Im still at offshore monday thru thursday let me know if you want it i will bring it back from Havasu this weekend. It has a little rash on it if yours is non rashed then i will send mine out and have it repaired before the swap
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you can run mine and see if it's what you want, I 'll stop by on my way out to mead...
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both are pretty much junk... I had a prop shop check pitch on 3 right out of the box bravo 1's... ever blade had a different pitch.... that's why every time you try a bravo you get different results....Ive had way better results with signature props... I've taken off bravo's that made the boat have a vibration ... and put on ron hill props that smoothed it right out..RON is king of the Hill when it comes to props..this best way, if you don't know,... is to have some one that knows what the boat is doing prop the boat....I just bought a 20 year old boat that has spent it's life with the wrong prop... the recipe's that I got with the boat show a trail of constant complaints of pour handling .... and ever time they looked at drive alignment... the vibration was coming from the prop... and it went a way as soon as I changed the prop.... the ill handling that the boat had went away soon as I changed the prop... the spooky , trimed to the moon at 83 mph on the speedo, well lets just say...driver error ..driving the boat faster than it was rigged for...anyone that reads this...though the 210 is a very nice safe riding boat, that will net a nice smooth ride in ruff water..you can over power them... and over trim them to be very spooky... the hand book way to trim a boat is to keep trimming out till the speed stops climbing, the 210 will trim out and get the whole boat out of the water, probley running a foot or two wet...that's when she gets scary,... that when you better have the right prop... and enough hardware on the back to keep her from kiting away...but i'm just a dump fuc, that hacks every thing so what I know about the 2 dozen halletts I've owned and propped is very good advise of things not to do...so what ever I say or do... do the opposite
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kinda surprised that Hammer, RD, pink taco, and paul65k haven't chimed in on this thread... hammer was in the boat the day I got my hallett 240, even drove that scarry bitch, and seen what the difference was after "I" propped the boat... RD even said,.. Steve, this is one of the best riding and driving boats ever
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