Union / CA pension dog here. But I know better than to drag that nonsense into a thread like THIS one! LMAO!!You're not union, you'll never understand, or you are union and you'll never understand.
Have you tried a different prop?
Union / CA pension dog here. But I know better than to drag that nonsense into a thread like THIS one! LMAO!!You're not union, you'll never understand, or you are union and you'll never understand.
Have you tried a different prop?
Yes.This is entertaining, but my head is kind of spinning at the same time.
Observations/ Questions
Has Fuckstick tried a different prop?
How come the carpenters have a nicer welding shop than the ironworkers?
Have we found the real definition of hustle yet?
I'd be willing to make $100 being an umpire on Sundays.
I don't know if I'm getting richer or poorer being a rodbuster.
Why does anyone really care whom is installing drywall?
Yes..Gavin is UNION President.So does McDonalds have a union?
I remember growing up my dad said, "make sure you make atleast $20 an hour"
So does McDonalds have a union?
Either one says the same thing. You can post it up if you want. The issue is I erased it and it came up as a double post. I believe the only item changed was that the apprentice I receive are as talented as someone from People Ready.Your deleted post is far more interesting than this one. lol
2000 hours?You think she has to work 2000 hours a year?
I actually hope you have it saved. Waiting for you to post it if you actually think I’m talking shit on unions. There’s a reason you grabbed a spoon in an attempt to stir the pot.Your deleted post is far more interesting than this one. lol
The Apprentice we've got working for us now makes $20.02 per hour. Granted he's a level 1 and in 20 years he will have a pension but how does one survive on $20.00 an hour.
I actually hope you have it saved. Waiting for you to post it if you actually think I’m talking shit on unions. There’s a reason you grabbed a spoon in an attempt to stir the pot.
Exactly this but I feel the majority of the time it’s very one sided. I feel you either get the guys in the union that wish they did something else but now it’s too late or you get the cult type and it’s like having a conversation with a Biden voter.And this is where 2 different definitions of hustle come into play.
Neither one’s right or wrong but both sides gotta respect the other.
Not directed at anyone just a fact.
Not a union guy myself but i have one request for Vic.
Can you get some training together once you retire at 45 to teach these “expert” union 6010 brazer/installers how to work and understand medGas piping!!
These fucksticks i gotta work with at times still can’t figure it out and they all say i been doing it for 20-30 years blah blah. Dont get me started on Pan pacific and murray company guys
The on-the-job training I received by being in open shops trumps the training HVAC techs receive in their union by a significant amount. I look at a lot of their service reports and shake my head all the time. Like I've said, it's too specialized and narrow for the amount of equipment and types of equipment we have in the trade.Anyone who argues the quality of training the union provides is smoking some good shit. There’s nothing like it.
Fuckstick don't give a shit about any of thatAt the delegates meeting now. Introducing a new HRA fund. 50 cents an hour. Another dollar to annuity, dollar to the hourly, and .25 to pension. Forget where the rest went but it check the minutes
Just clapping cheeks, stackin racks, and runnin this whole shit. Church on Sunday though to keep Brenda happy!Fuckstick don't give a shit about any of that
For electrical idk how anyone can argue against the union training.The on-the-job training I received by being in open shops trumps the training HVAC techs receive in their union by a significant amount. I look at a lot of their service reports and shake my head all the time. Like I've said, it's too specialized and narrow for the amount of equipment and types of equipment we have in the trade.
Awesome another fund we can't touch until we're 65.At the delegates meeting now. Introducing a new HRA fund. 50 cents an hour. Another dollar to annuity, dollar to the hourly, and .25 to pension. Forget where the rest went but it check the minutes
Just curious. What Union training center have you been to? Also are you saying Union pipefitters should be hanging duct work and tin knockers hanging pipes.The on-the-job training I received by being in open shops trumps the training HVAC techs receive in their union by a significant amount. I look at a lot of their service reports and shake my head all the time. Like I've said, it's too specialized and narrow for the amount of equipment and types of equipment we have in the trade.
If it’s like our plan. It’s 59 and a half without penalty.Awesome another fund we can't touch until we're 65.
I don’t think that’s true but still waiting to hear more about itAwesome another fund we can't touch until we're 65.
Just got our Annual Funding Notice for 2023. Value of Assets is $4,568,959,163.00At the delegates meeting now. Introducing a new HRA fund. 50 cents an hour. Another dollar to annuity, dollar to the hourly, and .25 to pension. Forget where the rest went but it check the minutes
If I’m reading that number right couldn’t they just put the fund in a savings account at 5-7%?Just got our Annual Funding Notice for 2023. Value of Assets is $4,568,959,163.00
There is a breakdown where the money is. The highest is 30.66% in Corporate Common Stocks. Then Hedge Funds, Private Equity, Real Estate…If I’m reading that number right couldn’t they just put the fund in a savings account at 5-7%?
If I’m reading that number right couldn’t they just put the fund in a savings account at 5-7%?
Kinda like the equipment rental business.That would remove the back door handshakes and politics. Ain’t nobody got time for that lol
I forget what age our annuity is, but it used to be if you're out of the union for 2 years you can pull it.If it’s like our plan. It’s 59 and a half without penalty.
Kinda like the equipment rental business.
Emmitt’s reportI forget what age our annuity is, but it used to be if you're out of the union for 2 years you can pull it.
I'm talking about the product of such training. The centers may be great, but the product they put out is lacking in MANY ways.Just curious. What Union training center have you been to? Also are you saying Union pipefitters should be hanging duct work and tin knockers hanging pipes.
Great post No disrespect taken. You know my good friend and old neighbor Larry Hutchinson used to tell me some great stories about the rental business. He is now retired and living in Tennessee.You’re not wrong but I negotiate my own yearly contracts and pay scale/bonus structure and would struggle with a union wage and schedule with my lifestyle.
I appreciate the Unions and what they represent and bring to the industry. Some of the most talented individuals I work with are union contractors.
There’s no right or wrong answer.
Both have their strengths/weaknesses. The union life just isn’t what “scratches my itch” professionally if that makes sense? I like my autonomy and not be held to the same wealth as my co-worker.
At the end of the day you can make a crazy good living $$ for your family in the union and provide an amazing life for your family like Vic and yourself have done. I meant no disrespect with my earlier post.
Great post No disrespect taken. You know my good friend and old neighbor Larry Hutchinson used to tell me some great stories about the rental business. He is now retired and living in Tennessee.
whatever do you mean?I actually hope you have it saved. Waiting for you to post it if you actually think I’m talking shit on unions. There’s a reason you grabbed a spoon in an attempt to stir the pot.
For all the bragging about how much Union guys make I expected much more.Dont shoot the messenger, but here's some facts:
What Vic is saying is true - the members don't pay much, if at all. Dues are a paltry $20 per month out of the worker's pocket, to be in the Carpenter's Union.
The majority of dues are paid by the companies who employ the workers - they must pay $$$ to multiple categories for each man hour worked.
Here's what a contractor must pay the Union in Northern California for employing union Carpenters - Fringe benefits by man hour:
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Aside from that - here's their Hourly income, on the check:
2023 Carpenters wage / rate card (Northern California)
For a career working with their hands and not owning their own business, these guys do just fine . . .
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lol I have a lot of thoughts about your lifestyle tooI’m still reeling from the idea that I don’t understand “the hustle”. lol.
You actually look like a retard. No offense meant.whatever do you mean? View attachment 1369441
If I remember correctly he sold the boat because his mom needed the funds for something.lol I have a lot of thoughts about your lifestyle too
Yore idea of hustle was selling the Parker pad and your dad’s boat. Mine is a little different lol
Wow. You always struck me as a douche bag. You just confirmed it.lol I have a lot of thoughts about your lifestyle too
Yore idea of hustle was selling the Parker pad and your dad’s boat. Mine is a little different lol
If Dave wants to come in here and take shots at me I’m going to shoot right back. Dave doesn’t need people to defend him. I didn’t start taking shots at Dave but I’ll take the douche bag comment. i honestly couldn’t care less. ^ that guy is a nobody who I didn’t even know existed till today talk about living rent free in someone’s headIf I remember correctly he sold the boat because his mom needed the funds for something.
On another note both of your hustles are totally different types and I don't think either one of you is better than the other or works harder than the other. You both have totally different ways of supporting your families and neither is a walk in the park.
Wow, hitting below the belt.lol I have a lot of thoughts about your lifestyle too
Yore idea of hustle was selling the Parker pad and your dad’s boat. Mine is a little different lol
I honestly couldn’t care less about Dave’s hustle or how he makes money. He came in here and said I have no hustle. Everything I have I’ve busted my ass for. I’m not going to pull any punches for someone that’s going to try to take a shot at me I’ll fire right back. It was just way too funny to see that drunk fb live video at the same time now I’ve got a full day of baseball. Headed down to Elsinore in a bit for a travel ball tournamentWow, hitting below the belt.
I have owned two business. one in retail and the other as a contractor. Both over the span of almost two decades. The hustle is real for those in business.
After two decades self employed I was burnt out. in 2014 took a W2 gig and no regrets. As I get older I value my time off as much as income.
My Boss is making me work today? Do I have to no but 2 of my guys Sunday job is not going and they asked. One of them has worked the farmers market for as long as I can remember. 7 days a week every week he works to provide for his family. He is a hard worker.Work on Sunday? Eff that.